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@@M4ke4l Spoilers................... So that answers the question on who was shooting the arrows at them I think. Widmore's people who think it's Fake Locke or MIB at that time
@@M4ke4l Or spoilers........................ it's still them but they don't know it's MIB or Fake Locke. they just know it's not there people and there gonna take them out. as I recall sawyer found those dead bodies on his recon mission before he ran into Zoe
Regarding Ben's motivations for sending his lawyer after Kate to try to get custody of Aaron - wasn't it all just a ruse to get Kate on the run and eventually get her back to the Island? Remember at the end of season four at the funeral parlor, Ben convinces Jack to go back to the Island and Jack asks how they can convince the others to return and Ben says, "I have a few ideas."
also: i love how sawyer is like freaking out and juliet just goes… “stop shouting james.” lol and “THANK YOU LORD!!” … *pouring rain* “I TAKE THAT BAAACK!” haha 😂
22:50 - If interested, the episode transcript from Lostpedia includes English translations of what Rousseau and her team are saying. ROBERT: Mais j'te l'ai dit, on aurait jamais dû suivre ces maudits chiffres ! [Translation: I told you so! We never should have followed those damn numbers!] MONTAND: Mais c'est pas ma faute, Robert. C'est Brennan qui devait tenir le sonar ! [Translation: It's not my fault, Robert. Brennan was in charge of the sonar!] BRENNAN: Mais je le faisais, Montand! Je vous l'ai déja dit, les instruments ont mal fonctionné ! [Translation: I was watching, Montand! I told you already, the instruments malfunctioned!] YOUNG WOMAN: Un homme à la mer ! [Translation: Man overboard!] ROBERT: Quoi? [Translation: What?] [It is unclear who says the following lines.] BRENNAN: Mais je pensais qu'on était tous là ! [Translation: I thought we were all there!] MONTAND: On est tous là ! Il n'est pas des nôtres. [Translation: We are all here! He's not one of us.] BRENNAN: Alors qui est-ce? [Translation: So who is he?] [Shouting in French.] ROBERT: Pagaie! MONTAND: Pagayez! Allez! [Translation: Paddle! Paddle! Come on!] UNKNOWN: Pointez la lampe de poche sur lui. [Translation: Point the flashlight at him.] YOUNG WOMAN: Il faut tenir la lampe torche. Brennan, aide-les à pagayer. [Translation: You have to hold the flashlight. Brennan, help them paddle.] UNKNOWN: Allez! Dépêchez-vous ! Nous dérivons avec le courant. [Translation: Come on! Hurry up! We are drifting with the current.] UNKNOWN: Non, y'a que lui ! Pas de bateau, rien. [Translation: No... There's only him! No boat, nothing.] UNKNOWN: Les vagues vont nous amener jusque sur la côte. [Translation: The waves will bring us to the coast.] UNKNOWN: Le vent va passer par ici. [Translation: The wind is coming over here.] YOUNG WOMAN: Au nom de dieu, Brennan ! Ta gueule ! [Translation: In the name of God, Brennan! Shut up!] UNKNOWN: Allez, tirez-le dans le radeau. [Translation: Come on, bring him in the raft.] UNKNOWN: Aide moi. [Translation: Help me.] UNKNOWN: Il est lourd ! [Translation: He's heavy!] UNKNOWN: Tiens, il respire encore. [Translation: He's still breathing.]
Locke: "I needed that pain...to get to where I am now." I've always loved that line. And for those that didn't know, Rousseau's team was supposed to be studying 'time,' but ABC cut the line from a S1 script.
Emilie just posted a picture on Instagram of her real 3-year-old son Theo, he looks so much like the actor who played Aaron at that age. Thought the LOTC gang might get a kick out of that.
One thing I always noticed about this episode was, when Kate says "You guys are crazy" at that meeting with the rest, when it is replayed in the upcoming episode, and she says "You guys are crazy", they used a different take and it sounds different lol
I love how they write it so you don't really suspect that Ben is the one trying to get Aaron, even though it would so obviously be him because he's behind everything.
One bit of logic I still don't follow: Why did Sun consider Ben the other person responsible for Jin's death instead of Widmore? Or, why not *both* of them, at the very least, in addition to her father? 🤷♂️
Because Michael was there to die and that had nothing to do with widmore. I guess she concluded that who destroyed the boat was ben, thus, ben is the "killer". Widmore wouldn't destroy his own boat in her perspective.
I know this is illogical but I always felt like Jack should've taken some responsibility for Jin's death. I mean, Ben is ultimately responsible but why not both Ben AND Widmore with a little sprinkling of Jack? The Losties are essentially caught between their conflict so "teaming up" with Widmore to take down Ben is...I don't know. IJack should at least apologize unless he did and I just don't remember. Hmm.
@@ESJonas And yet she's willing to fully collaborate with the man who sent the freighter full of mercenaries in the first place? Like wtf. This whole subplot don't add up. Also Desmond was a first hand witness to the whole bomb fiasco anyway. He would be able to relay the circumstances of what happened in that room with Jin and Michael, and who was likely responsible for the bomb. Sun going out of her way to directly target Ben for Jin's death, especially instead of Widmore, is completely out of nowhere.
When Kate had claimed Aaron for her own, she had no idea of what really happened to Claire at the time. She simply claimed Aaron for her own out of pure selfishness. She and Jack never bothered to find out if Claire had other relatives. Nor did she and Jack bothered to tell Carole Littleton the truth about Aaron when they first met her at Christian Shephard's funeral. Ironically, Ben thought Danielle was crazy and decided Alex would be better off with him.
@@juanitajones6900 there might be some truth to what you're saying but they couldn't approach any of Claire's family because that would compromise their story (the lie) that everyone else essentially died in the crash. Kate does at some point say she needed Aaron, so selfish motives were likely present.
@@truthbetold8233 Let me get this straight. Not compromising their story about Aaron, which was a lie selfishly created by Kate was more important than Aaron rightfully being with his grandmother? I don't think so. There is truth in what I was saying. I'm tired of fans either pretending that what Kate had done with Aaron was okay or giving her an excuse to keep him from Carole Littleton. I'm getting tired of fans advocating child theft, because those responsible were the show's main protagonists.
@@juanitajones6900 the lie was a story that existed independently. Kate may have volunteered to pretend that Aaron was her child but the didn't exactly leave many alternatives
@@truthbetold8233 Ah yeah . . . there were alternatives. Jack and Kate could have told Oceanic Airlines that Claire had given birth to Aaron and that he was from Australia. The airline could have easily searched for Claire's relations in Australia. The fact that Jack did not even considered lying about Kate being Aaron's mother in the first place said a lot to me about Kate's selfishness. Please stop trying to make excuses for them, especially Kate. They had even less excuse after they met Claire's mom at Christian's funeral. If Kate was finally able to admit to Carole Littleton that she had been selfish to raise Aaron, then I really don't see any reason to continue making excuses for what she and Jack did.
What is it about "LOST" fans that many of them could not fathom the idea of Kate handing Aaron over to his grandmother, Carole Littleton? Something that she and Jack should have done when they first met her years ago at Christian Shephard's funeral? What makes this even worse is that Kate had lied about being Aaron's mother for SELFISH reasons. When did it become okay for characters to get away with child kidnapping? Please explain that.
I love the long discussions before the reaction begins, what a shame the couch is so close to finishing this wonderful show :( ahahahahah I like big boy and jug boy as alternative titles to S5E3 😆 Now this is a very small detail and I would understand if it was never referenced again on the couch, but I’d very much love to know everyone’s thoughts on what they think occurred during that shootout on the water? It is an infamous sequence in lost due to it being never entirely explained. Damon and Carlton have said in interviews they had a plan to address/resolve it, but ultimately couldn’t make it work and had to cut it out. The first many times I saw the show, I never thought much of it, and it wasn’t until I saw all the speculation about it on the internet that I found out it was a topic of discussion and debate. I’m not even sure what time period they’re flashing through during the shootout, but I think other Losties out there might have a better understanding?
There was a page from the Black Rock ledger that came with the complete box set of the series that explains that it was members of the Black Rock crew that shot at them. It's not what they originally intended, but that's the best we got.
@@brianscli9567 box set of the serie is not canon and even if it were that is impossible when you know when they are at that moment, we know it's not in the black rock period as: 1 the camp exist before they take the boat and 2 we have the Ajira bottle info that tells us it happens after the oceanic 6 came back. There are two ways to look at it: 1- you believe what the writers says in interviews: that they wanted it to be some of the people that were already on the boat we know but they couldn't do it because the characters dies in the show before (i guess they're talking about Juliet,Charlotte,Daniel?). I just believe it is a lame explaination because they were already planning the end at that point so i just can't believe they didn't plan those people would still be alive at that point, it's just communication i guess. 2-there is a nice theory about the fact the those guys on the other boats are Wildmore & Zoe's team, the timeline fits and it could have happened after Desmond was taken by Sayid or just after Wildmore's crew was killed by the smoke monster. they would be very pissed off and therefore when they came back to the main island and saw the boat they looked at the persons on board and saw Locke, therefore they thought it was the black smoke and started shooting at them.
I don't want to go too much into details because it's spoilers, but based on the camp, the outriggers, and the Ajira water bottle, I think that flash is during season 6.
@@M4ke4l I don't recall them saying that the people already died - Jorge Garcia implied on his podcast that it was supposed to be Ben and Locke. And if this stuff in the box isn't supposed to be canon, why bother including it?
There was a page from the Black Rock ledger that came with the complete box set of the series that explains that it was members of the Black Rock crew that shot at them. It's not what they originally intended, but that's the best we got.
@@kuhpunkt Ah, cool. I didn't get the box cause I already had most of the seasons on dvd at the time. I just remember that being a bit of an uproar from hordes of Losties after the series ended (as if knowing makes any difference). There wasn't really anything in the scene to indicate the year they had flashed to, but does make some sense if it was the Black Rock era considering the storm they were in.
@@shsrpr Not sure if it lines up with the flashes, but its's during daytime. "December 18? - An away team of six men was launched at first light in an attempt to get to the island with hopes of determining our location. Only one returned alive. He seems in a deep shock, muttering about exchanging musket fire with another vessel which promptly disappeared in a flash of heavenly light. He went on to claim that after hours of traversing the island, his five crewmates simply jumped overboard as if lemmings and no degree of coaxing could persuade them back into the boat. They drowned. Every one."
I always related it with the future. Cause they find the ajira bottle. And then in one episode they say one boat is missing. Although who put the boats there in the firt place is unknown.
At least Uncle Owen and Aunt Beru had the twin suns of Tattooine as an excuse for aging so terribly in Star Wars. Life on her own on the Island was obviously very rough for Rousseau
Your favorite character is a fucking child kidnapper, who keeps a boy from his grandmother for nearly three years out of the pure selfishness of her heart?
My biggest issue with the last 3 seasons remains (SPOILER).... . . . . . . . . . ... the lack of character development for those introduced in them. In hindsight, these 3 seasons needed about 18-20 episodes each to cover all their bases, not 14-16, IMO.
Season 5 had 17 & Season 8 had 18 or 18 1/2 actually. Season 4 had the writers strike which is why 5 & 6 had extra episodes to make up for it. That said season 4 & 5 are my favorite seasons
@@rxtsec1 Yet, as you noticed, we still never got... (SPOILER) . . . . . . . . . . . ... full backstory episodes for 4 principal characters: Libby, Charlotte, Frank, and Ilana (and only 1 each for Daniel and Miles). You're telling me the producers couldn't have gone to ABC at any point in those last 3 seasons and told them, 'Yeah, we kind of underestimated how many episodes we needed when we made that initial deal. Could you shell out for a few more?' and the network wouldn't have done it? I mean, _they_ initially wanted the show to run 10 seasons, after all.
@@ComeOnIsSuchAJoy Spoilers................................ they could of & have but I'm cool with what they did. In Season 4 because of writers strike it was supposed to be 13 episodes but they needed extra hour so they asked which is why it was 3 parts. Season 6 they asked for extra hour and half for finale cause it was supposed to be 17 episodes. This tells me they could have but didn't deem it necessary. They said they chose to tell Charlotte's story through dharma & Daniel and they felt the finale showed Frank's purpose. I'm satisfied with that. Greatest show ever
So why did Desmond see claire and Aaron being rescued on a chopper???? This episode got me thinking about a nagging Lost question I never got closure on but I think I just realized what it was. Desmond saw Aaron being rescued on a women's lap and assumed it was Claire.
That... or it just didn't happen. Desmond also saw Charlie getting killed by the arrow through his throat. Or he saw Charlie drowning. Or getting hit by a lightning. None of it actually happened.
@@kuhpunkt well it's all about the clues. He thought penny was naomi off assumption so it stands the reason he did the same thing with Kate thinking she was Claire. That's what I believe anyways
Probably the attackers during the outrigger chase sequence is the only thing still unexplained. I refuse to believe the stuff about the Black Rock men. Anyone has ideas about who they are? Ilana's men?
it could be Ilana’s men, but it doesn’t have that case carrying Jeremy Bentham’s body. it could maybe.. JUST MAYBE be themselves in the past or future, not sure! this video is really good for the topic: ua-cam.com/video/TpZqUmKIRVI/v-deo.html
@@francocba7301 I forgot about them mentioning a missing boat! I asked that because I came around some articles where someone said that in a DVD collection box there was a Black Rock crew diary book where it was hinted that the crew experienced similar things to the time-travellers...
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"I needed that pain. To get to where I am now." With more flashes, bloody noses, and enemies to run from, this episode packs a lot into it. Kate tries to get to the bottom of things. And Zola's theory about Jin is finally confirmed. Anybody speak French? Hassan sure does!!
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At about 19:20 is the ajira flight mentioned as in 316????
Actually 19:15
@@rxtsec1 yes
@@M4ke4l Spoilers...................
So that answers the question on who was shooting the arrows at them I think. Widmore's people who think it's Fake Locke or MIB at that time
@@M4ke4l Or spoilers........................
it's still them but they don't know it's MIB or Fake Locke. they just know it's not there people and there gonna take them out. as I recall sawyer found those dead bodies on his recon mission before he ran into Zoe
"Is this where they show us that Jin is actually alive?" - Zola is the best :D
Regarding Ben's motivations for sending his lawyer after Kate to try to get custody of Aaron - wasn't it all just a ruse to get Kate on the run and eventually get her back to the Island? Remember at the end of season four at the funeral parlor, Ben convinces Jack to go back to the Island and Jack asks how they can convince the others to return and Ben says, "I have a few ideas."
also: i love how sawyer is like freaking out and juliet just goes… “stop shouting james.” lol and “THANK YOU LORD!!” … *pouring rain* “I TAKE THAT BAAACK!” haha 😂
I really enjoyed Zola talking about the book. 😊
22:50 - If interested, the episode transcript from Lostpedia includes English translations of what Rousseau and her team are saying.
ROBERT: Mais j'te l'ai dit, on aurait jamais dû suivre ces maudits chiffres ! [Translation: I told you so! We never should have followed those damn numbers!]
MONTAND: Mais c'est pas ma faute, Robert. C'est Brennan qui devait tenir le sonar ! [Translation: It's not my fault, Robert. Brennan was in charge of the sonar!]
BRENNAN: Mais je le faisais, Montand! Je vous l'ai déja dit, les instruments ont mal fonctionné ! [Translation: I was watching, Montand! I told you already, the instruments malfunctioned!]
YOUNG WOMAN: Un homme à la mer ! [Translation: Man overboard!]
ROBERT: Quoi? [Translation: What?]
[It is unclear who says the following lines.]
BRENNAN: Mais je pensais qu'on était tous là ! [Translation: I thought we were all there!]
MONTAND: On est tous là ! Il n'est pas des nôtres. [Translation: We are all here! He's not one of us.]
BRENNAN: Alors qui est-ce? [Translation: So who is he?]
[Shouting in French.]
ROBERT: Pagaie!
MONTAND: Pagayez! Allez! [Translation: Paddle! Paddle! Come on!]
UNKNOWN: Pointez la lampe de poche sur lui. [Translation: Point the flashlight at him.]
YOUNG WOMAN: Il faut tenir la lampe torche. Brennan, aide-les à pagayer. [Translation: You have to hold the flashlight. Brennan, help them paddle.]
UNKNOWN: Allez! Dépêchez-vous ! Nous dérivons avec le courant. [Translation: Come on! Hurry up! We are drifting with the current.]
UNKNOWN: Non, y'a que lui ! Pas de bateau, rien. [Translation: No... There's only him! No boat, nothing.]
UNKNOWN: Les vagues vont nous amener jusque sur la côte. [Translation: The waves will bring us to the coast.]
UNKNOWN: Le vent va passer par ici. [Translation: The wind is coming over here.]
YOUNG WOMAN: Au nom de dieu, Brennan ! Ta gueule ! [Translation: In the name of God, Brennan! Shut up!]
UNKNOWN: Allez, tirez-le dans le radeau. [Translation: Come on, bring him in the raft.]
UNKNOWN: Aide moi. [Translation: Help me.]
UNKNOWN: Il est lourd ! [Translation: He's heavy!]
UNKNOWN: Tiens, il respire encore. [Translation: He's still breathing.]
Locke: "I needed that pain...to get to where I am now." I've always loved that line.
And for those that didn't know, Rousseau's team was supposed to be studying 'time,' but ABC cut the line from a S1 script.
This show is just so fucking awesome........
Emilie just posted a picture on Instagram of her real 3-year-old son Theo, he looks so much like the actor who played Aaron at that age. Thought the LOTC gang might get a kick out of that.
I always thought the little prince was in reference to Aaron
it has two meanings, like most episode titles do, usually one meaning is on island, and the other is off island :)
One thing I always noticed about this episode was, when Kate says "You guys are crazy" at that meeting with the rest, when it is replayed in the upcoming episode, and she says "You guys are crazy", they used a different take and it sounds different lol
Hmmm Widmore's name on his jacket was Jones, and in the Archie's comics wasn't Jughead's last name Jones?
Indeed, it was.
I love how they write it so you don't really suspect that Ben is the one trying to get Aaron, even though it would so obviously be him because he's behind everything.
The title of Little Prince I think, was because is an Aaron episode.
Lawyers, "...the gatekeepers of corruption". Damn Hassan, where did you steal this? So good, so true!!👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻🤪🤪🤪
David said that they didn't remember anything but once again they ace the quiz.
One bit of logic I still don't follow: Why did Sun consider Ben the other person responsible for Jin's death instead of Widmore? Or, why not *both* of them, at the very least, in addition to her father? 🤷♂️
Thank you! This has always confused me 😂
Because Michael was there to die and that had nothing to do with widmore. I guess she concluded that who destroyed the boat was ben, thus, ben is the "killer". Widmore wouldn't destroy his own boat in her perspective.
I know this is illogical but I always felt like Jack should've taken some responsibility for Jin's death. I mean, Ben is ultimately responsible but why not both Ben AND Widmore with a little sprinkling of Jack? The Losties are essentially caught between their conflict so "teaming up" with Widmore to take down Ben is...I don't know. IJack should at least apologize unless he did and I just don't remember. Hmm.
@@Sab_MJsMama why would Jack be responsible?
@@ESJonas And yet she's willing to fully collaborate with the man who sent the freighter full of mercenaries in the first place? Like wtf. This whole subplot don't add up.
Also Desmond was a first hand witness to the whole bomb fiasco anyway. He would be able to relay the circumstances of what happened in that room with Jin and Michael, and who was likely responsible for the bomb.
Sun going out of her way to directly target Ben for Jin's death, especially instead of Widmore, is completely out of nowhere.
Life is like a box of chocolates.. you never know what's underneath...
24:20 - Ben basically telling Kate - 'we don't get to keep the kids that we stole from insane women' 😉
When Kate had claimed Aaron for her own, she had no idea of what really happened to Claire at the time. She simply claimed Aaron for her own out of pure selfishness. She and Jack never bothered to find out if Claire had other relatives. Nor did she and Jack bothered to tell Carole Littleton the truth about Aaron when they first met her at Christian Shephard's funeral. Ironically, Ben thought Danielle was crazy and decided Alex would be better off with him.
@@juanitajones6900 there might be some truth to what you're saying but they couldn't approach any of Claire's family because that would compromise their story (the lie) that everyone else essentially died in the crash.
Kate does at some point say she needed Aaron, so selfish motives were likely present.
@@truthbetold8233 Let me get this straight. Not compromising their story about Aaron, which was a lie selfishly created by Kate was more important than Aaron rightfully being with his grandmother? I don't think so. There is truth in what I was saying. I'm tired of fans either pretending that what Kate had done with Aaron was okay or giving her an excuse to keep him from Carole Littleton. I'm getting tired of fans advocating child theft, because those responsible were the show's main protagonists.
@@juanitajones6900 the lie was a story that existed independently. Kate may have volunteered to pretend that Aaron was her child but the didn't exactly leave many alternatives
@@truthbetold8233 Ah yeah . . . there were alternatives. Jack and Kate could have told Oceanic Airlines that Claire had given birth to Aaron and that he was from Australia. The airline could have easily searched for Claire's relations in Australia. The fact that Jack did not even considered lying about Kate being Aaron's mother in the first place said a lot to me about Kate's selfishness. Please stop trying to make excuses for them, especially Kate. They had even less excuse after they met Claire's mom at Christian's funeral. If Kate was finally able to admit to Carole Littleton that she had been selfish to raise Aaron, then I really don't see any reason to continue making excuses for what she and Jack did.
What is it about "LOST" fans that many of them could not fathom the idea of Kate handing Aaron over to his grandmother, Carole Littleton? Something that she and Jack should have done when they first met her years ago at Christian Shephard's funeral? What makes this even worse is that Kate had lied about being Aaron's mother for SELFISH reasons. When did it become okay for characters to get away with child kidnapping? Please explain that.
And "The little Prince" begins with a plane crash on a deserted ... Sahara. 😁
Ok, broke down and signed up for patreon. Now I have something to do tonight.
I love the long discussions before the reaction begins, what a shame the couch is so close to finishing this wonderful show :( ahahahahah I like big boy and jug boy as alternative titles to S5E3 😆
Now this is a very small detail and I would understand if it was never referenced again on the couch, but I’d very much love to know everyone’s thoughts on what they think occurred during that shootout on the water? It is an infamous sequence in lost due to it being never entirely explained. Damon and Carlton have said in interviews they had a plan to address/resolve it, but ultimately couldn’t make it work and had to cut it out. The first many times I saw the show, I never thought much of it, and it wasn’t until I saw all the speculation about it on the internet that I found out it was a topic of discussion and debate. I’m not even sure what time period they’re flashing through during the shootout, but I think other Losties out there might have a better understanding?
There was a page from the Black Rock ledger that came with the complete box set of the series that explains that it was members of the Black Rock crew that shot at them. It's not what they originally intended, but that's the best we got.
@@kuhpunkt Wow, thank you so much! I really appreciate that info
@@brianscli9567 box set of the serie is not canon and even if it were that is impossible when you know when they are at that moment, we know it's not in the black rock period as: 1 the camp exist before they take the boat and 2 we have the Ajira bottle info that tells us it happens after the oceanic 6 came back.
There are two ways to look at it:
1- you believe what the writers says in interviews: that they wanted it to be some of the people that were already on the boat we know but they couldn't do it because the characters dies in the show before (i guess they're talking about Juliet,Charlotte,Daniel?). I just believe it is a lame explaination because they were already planning the end at that point so i just can't believe they didn't plan those people would still be alive at that point, it's just communication i guess.
2-there is a nice theory about the fact the those guys on the other boats are Wildmore & Zoe's team, the timeline fits and it could have happened after Desmond was taken by Sayid or just after Wildmore's crew was killed by the smoke monster. they would be very pissed off and therefore when they came back to the main island and saw the boat they looked at the persons on board and saw Locke, therefore they thought it was the black smoke and started shooting at them.
I don't want to go too much into details because it's spoilers, but based on the camp, the outriggers, and the Ajira water bottle, I think that flash is during season 6.
@@M4ke4l I don't recall them saying that the people already died - Jorge Garcia implied on his podcast that it was supposed to be Ben and Locke.
And if this stuff in the box isn't supposed to be canon, why bother including it?
Waiting for “Le fleur” reaction daveee! lml
Hassan, all the secrets of the universe are hidden within the number 4
Those whisper in the jungle were actually because of time travel!?!¿
19:39 Hey!! Wait!! Who's shooting at them?!? Lolol. Never did find that out. :-)
There was a page from the Black Rock ledger that came with the complete box set of the series that explains that it was members of the Black Rock crew that shot at them. It's not what they originally intended, but that's the best we got.
@@kuhpunkt Ah, cool. I didn't get the box cause I already had most of the seasons on dvd at the time. I just remember that being a bit of an uproar from hordes of Losties after the series ended (as if knowing makes any difference). There wasn't really anything in the scene to indicate the year they had flashed to, but does make some sense if it was the Black Rock era considering the storm they were in.
Oh wait, they flashed to the storm after they were fired on... so hmmm, yeah maybe doesn't actually make as much sense as I had thought ^
@@shsrpr Not sure if it lines up with the flashes, but its's during daytime.
"December 18? - An away team of six men was launched at first light in an attempt to get to the island with hopes of determining our location.
Only one returned alive. He seems in a deep shock, muttering about exchanging musket fire with another vessel which promptly disappeared in a flash of heavenly light. He went on to claim that after hours of traversing the island, his five crewmates simply jumped overboard as if lemmings and no degree of coaxing could persuade them back into the boat. They drowned. Every one."
I always related it with the future. Cause they find the ajira bottle. And then in one episode they say one boat is missing. Although who put the boats there in the firt place is unknown.
Aww jeez, one reaction at a time is hard. Time just flies. Then I'm left jonesing for more.
D.R. Definitely aged harshly in those 16 years
At least Uncle Owen and Aunt Beru had the twin suns of Tattooine as an excuse for aging so terribly in Star Wars. Life on her own on the Island was obviously very rough for Rousseau
0:40 I'm really worried about everyone's brain health...
Kate episodes are just the best. Said nobody ever.
i agree with that statement lol, she’s my fav character :)
@@astrovv ???
@@kuhpunkt I'm not a Kate fan. I tried to get her to back to the island and all she did was insult me. Very mean.
@@John_Locke_108 I asked Astro.
love this episode, love kate (fav character)
😌🤪😁
love the reaction too! ❤️ and the ENDING is one of my favorite episode endings ever! :o
Your favorite character is a fucking child kidnapper, who keeps a boy from his grandmother for nearly three years out of the pure selfishness of her heart?
Written by: Brian K. Vaughan &
Melinda Hsu Taylor
Directed by: Stephen Williams
Master Yoda
“You think they’re gonna end up together?” 🕵️🤔
I have my issues with season five but it’s still fun.
I genuinely do & don’t get why people don’t love lost
What issues do you have with S5?
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Season 5 had 17 & Season 8 had 18 or 18 1/2 actually. Season 4 had the writers strike which is why 5 & 6 had extra episodes to make up for it. That said season 4 & 5 are my favorite seasons
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... full backstory episodes for 4 principal characters: Libby, Charlotte, Frank, and Ilana (and only 1 each for Daniel and Miles). You're telling me the producers couldn't have gone to ABC at any point in those last 3 seasons and told them, 'Yeah, we kind of underestimated how many episodes we needed when we made that initial deal. Could you shell out for a few more?' and the network wouldn't have done it? I mean, _they_ initially wanted the show to run 10 seasons, after all.
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they could of & have but I'm cool with what they did. In Season 4 because of writers strike it was supposed to be 13 episodes but they needed extra hour so they asked which is why it was 3 parts. Season 6 they asked for extra hour and half for finale cause it was supposed to be 17 episodes. This tells me they could have but didn't deem it necessary. They said they chose to tell Charlotte's story through dharma & Daniel and they felt the finale showed Frank's purpose. I'm satisfied with that. Greatest show ever
So why did Desmond see claire and Aaron being rescued on a chopper???? This episode got me thinking about a nagging Lost question I never got closure on but I think I just realized what it was. Desmond saw Aaron being rescued on a women's lap and assumed it was Claire.
That... or it just didn't happen. Desmond also saw Charlie getting killed by the arrow through his throat. Or he saw Charlie drowning. Or getting hit by a lightning. None of it actually happened.
@@kuhpunkt cause he stopped it
@@rxtsec1 Yeah, and there was quite a bit of time between the season 3 finale and the season 4 finale. Loooooots of things could have changed :>
@@kuhpunkt well it's all about the clues. He thought penny was naomi off assumption so it stands the reason he did the same thing with Kate thinking she was Claire. That's what I believe anyways
@@rxtsec1 Exactly. We didn't see what he saw and he made mistakes before.
Probably the attackers during the outrigger chase sequence is the only thing still unexplained. I refuse to believe the stuff about the Black Rock men.
Anyone has ideas about who they are? Ilana's men?
it could be Ilana’s men, but it doesn’t have that case carrying Jeremy Bentham’s body. it could maybe.. JUST MAYBE be themselves in the past or future, not sure! this video is really good for the topic: ua-cam.com/video/TpZqUmKIRVI/v-deo.html
I think its ilana. Because they find the ajira bottle. And ilanas people mention that one boat is missing.
@@francocba7301 yeah that’s a good point :)
@@francocba7301 I forgot about them mentioning a missing boat!
I asked that because I came around some articles where someone said that in a DVD collection box there was a Black Rock crew diary book where it was hinted that the crew experienced similar things to the time-travellers...