Claudia could kill another Claudia because there is no older version of Claudia in Martha's world. Jonas' world Claudia specifically asks other Claudia if she has met older self and she says no, which implies there is no future her in that world.
Their _increased_ confusion after watching _the episode that ties everything together_ really highlights how Dark is the ultimate test for attentiveness and comprehension for any show watcher. And they failed. At least I still have The Normies' reaction to fall back on.
Absolutely insane how they can look directly at the family tree to make sure they are right about the connection between Silja, Agnes, Tronte and Ulrich but they still think Silja is Ulrich’s daughter even though it says it’s Egon on the exact same tree. 😂🤦🏾♀️
I rememeber being super confused with the quantum entanglement thing. I mean I knew WHAT happend, but couldn't understand HOW it happened... Still don't get it tbh, like, how we have two versions of this one specific event. How did Bartosz showed up in one but not in the other?
@@VantolStark Its like the Schrödingers cat concept , which you kind of have to accept. And during the apocalypse time stands still for a moment so you can change things.
34:00 Noah allrdy tried to kill Adam in S2. Also remember how old Helge tried to kill himself. Also a fact hat most didnt notice is that Hannah tried or thought about to kill herself in S2 before middle age Jonas showed up. Stranger Jonas also told Jonas in S1 that he cant save Mikkel, because he allrdy exist. Its basically like killing himself, if he would change it.
It's interesting if you rewatch when Noah tries to kill Adam they talk about how Noah thought it was his destiny to kill him. So he would have known about Adam not being able to die, but he thought he could kill him at that specific time and place because he thought it was supposed to happen
@@jomontanya7114 I mean tbf, it isn't that farfetched since Adam is already old as fuck and as far we know there is no older version of Adam hopping around time. So Noah thinking he might be able to kill him wasn't that stupid.
@@Jakokokoroko by the way this is how Adam knew Noah would not harm him in 2x8: he remembers witnessing (as young Jonas) himself (as Adam) killing Martha, and since it had not yet happened at the time Noah is trying to kill him, he knew that he would not be harmed by Noah before that happens.
If Elisabeth blindfolded herself, turned around and shot behind her back, she would have still hit the rope that Jonas was swinging from. i guess it couldn't happen because she would never try it that way, lol.
@@billross7245She did not really have a choice: quoting Stranger "We're not free in what we do, because we're not free in what we want" (1x10)- no one has a choice, they only have the illusion of freewill. by the way (for geeks), the show starts with a quote from Einstein (having a determinist based theory) and moves towards quantum physics (that are non-determinist)
I was surprised going back to The Normies reactions that they had a much firmer grasp on what was happening at this point in the show. the Blind Wave crew just seem to talk themselves in circles a lot with this show.
@@tortoiseoflegends4466 I think it helped there were only 3 of them if they had the whole crew they miss so much stuff. Some of the others like to talk way too much which distracts everyone.
@@tortoiseoflegends4466 I think the Normies just deal way better with subtitled shows as well. The Blindwave crew seems way more competent when they watch a show with subtitles. Also, the Normies don't just straight up ignore the original language that gets spoken. They listen attentively to how characters sound and how they say stuff even if they don't understand the language. The most infuriating thing the Blindwave crew as a whole has done so far is just talk over all the German dialogue and just straight up ignore all the audio since it is German anyway and they just have to read the subtitles alone so they can just talk whenever they want... I still remember when they made fun of Eric for trying to pay attention to the audio since they all can't understand German anyway. That was so damn obnoxious! 93% of communication is nonverbal in nature anyways and all in all the tone of voice we use is responsible for about 35-40 percent of the message we are sending. "Tone involves the volume you use, the level and type of emotion that you communicate and the emphasis that you place on the words that you choose" and you can absolutely pick up on a LOT of this even if you understand very little of a foreign language - especially if the language is similar to your own... and newsflash! German and English are both Germanic languages so if you just paid more attention maybe you would be able to pick up some things... In general I normally prefer Blindwave's reactions but they really dropped the ball on Dark compared to the Normies.
I'm with the guys here. By this time, I was really confused, but even after the finale I was still a bit confused so I had to look up the family tree stuff.
The "Adam is not Jonas" circlejerk that went for so long is the perfect example of how they get stuck in nonsensical things while missing crucial details
Y'all are toxic af and act like everyone needs to understand everything on the first watch while you have watched dozens of reactions to know the shows
Silja is the daughter of Hanna and Egon. Silja and Bartoz had Noah and Agnes. Agnes had Tronte who had Ulrich. Also you DID see older Bartoz. Noah killed him with a pick axe in S2 Ep 1
I didn't realise who Hanno was but when they said Agnes, I immediately understood that Bartosz and Silja are parents of Noah and Agnes. 2. Exactly... They wondered what happened with Bartosz in the beginning of the reaction.
I think you guys were so convinced that the show was going to play a trick on you that you didn’t trust what the show was telling you and now you’ve completely lost what is happening 🤷🏻♂️
Me: Ohh, they noticed the hangar door thing, this is gonna be great! Five minutes later.. - They don't remember Silja at all - They think Silja is Ulrich's daughter, completely forgetting about Egon - They forget Hanno is Noah's name - They forget about Bartosz's adult self being killed by his son - They completely forget who Agnes is until way later - They forget about the most simple rule in the whole show!!! If you already exist as an adult, you can't die.. For fuck's sake, guys!
Forgetting Bartosz's death is 100% forgivable, as it happened a long time ago for them at this point. It's one of the few scenes that I'm really surprised the show doesn't remind the viewer of. They've dropped the ball on Agnes ever since she was introduced tbh. For the whole show she's been 'that one lady in the dress'. Maddening.
@@bishensingha1787 Yes and it's the same reason why Jonas B (Jonas who travelled to Martha world) could be killed by Martha. He has no future and it's his destiny to die there while Jonas A grows up to become Adam.
That's not being petty. People used to clown on the normies because BW takes so many notes, but Rana, Suraj, and Niki understood so much better with lest notes taken.
@@SengokuTheGouda tbf the normies binge watch but bw always has a week pause in-between episodes. Dark is the kinda show you miss so much if you don't binge it.
@@johnnydeleon8210 Nikki, Suraj and Rana took notes during discussion if they weren't able to take them when watching. Also, they interacted with comments, which didn't spoil them but laid stuff out when needed (which admittedly wasn't much).
they for some reason cant wrap their head around the most basic simple rule set up from season 1, whats happened happened. If your older self exists, you cant die when you're younger, if Ulrich is in prison in the 1986, you cant try to break him out in 1953. I dont know what it would take to prove them to this.
@@haridaspalleeri6765 Problem is, there are a lot of movies and tv-shows with time travel, so there are lots of rules of time travel out there. So I can see why they would be confused.
I mean they were hella impressed just by realizing ulrich is his own great great grandpa but they still dont know Jonas and all other characters are their great great gradpa in some ways , how ? This episode answers it all
@@patrikneperfekta7575 if you look at the family tree, the Origin (the infinity symbol) is in the middle of both of the world’s family tree. on both the left and right hand sides of the Origin’s box, it’s connected to Agnes (of both worlds). Essentially the Origin has sex with both versions of agnes, which both each give birth to Tronte of their world. So there isn’t 2 family trees, it’s actually one massive family tree with multiple versions of the same people with in. So to answer your question specifically, who is jonas a grandpa to? Jonas is grandpa to both versions of Tronte. So he’s a grandpa to two people (even tho they’re still the same person, just of two different worlds.)
It's actually extraordinary how everything came together seamlessly by the end. Something I didn't think was going to happen because of how insanely complicated the show became. And I'm surprised that none of them noticed that the aspect ratio was different in the Tannhaus scenes.
Man I really hope they watch an explained video or something. I've never seen them be this lost, mostly by their own hand since this episode is so clear and blatant.
20:05 If you ever meet Aaron in person, you should absolutely say his name wrong on purpose. "But it's just easier for ME to say, it doesn't matter what your name actually is!"
The show screamed at us over and over that things cannot be changed, I don't know why are you theorizing under assumption that the characters have control over their fates.
I really don't wish to be down on other people for not understanding what is a very confusing show. But we've spent three seasons with characters constantly trying to break the cycle in some manner and it always fails something always stops them. - Jonas fails to bring Mikkel back to the present. - Claudia fails to prevent her father's death. - Ulrich fails to kill Helge. - Katarina fails to rescue Ulrich. Events occur because they are part of the loop. In a loop all things have already happened. There are a few instances in which deviation can occur - which is explained further in the next episode, but otherwise all events are already written. No one has free will. No one can kill anyone except when they are 'meant to'.
Regarding the discussion where Aaron pointed out that by that logic no one can be killed in a time travel world is wrong. To prevent this argument is why they kinda explain the Schrodinger's cat theory here. Yes, theoretically you have a future tomorrow, but until you see that future yourself, it exists and doesn't exist simultaneously. Once you see it, it exists permanently. This is also the reason why Claudia 1 asks Claudia 2 if she's seen her older self. She confirms that Claudia 2 doesnt have a future before trying to kill her.
Not quite, quantum entanglement doesn’t apply to the time travel, just the realities (Martha enters or doesn’t, Claudia speaks to Adam or doesn’t) The reason they can’t die is because the future has already happened, it’s less so that you “can’t” die and more so that you “don’t” die
@@cloudy772future has already happened is a pointless statement in a time travel show. And you don't die and can't die is the exact same in this context.
This is definitely not the show to watch with a group of friends who will be joking around and talking shit half of the time. Being on the penultimate episode and still THIS clueless is honestly shocking lol
@@nugking2021 Yeah, because the Egon from Eva's world is directed by Eva to "keep his bloodline alive", then he goes to Hannah. Silja A is the daughter of Hannah A and Egon A and Silja B is the daughter of Hannah B and Egon B. Hannah never has a child with Ulrich, we see Hannah B have a miscarriage right before Egon B arrives.
@@nugking2021In both worlds, Silja is the daughter of Hannah and Egon. In world B, you see a bloody Hannah implying she had a miscarriage and the child of Hannah and Ulrich is never born. Old Egon is sent there by Eva to send Hannah to young Egon in 1953 so they get together and have Silja together.
Normies might be little bit unserious but they were invested in characters and understood this episode too , while blind wave didn't even realise that family tree starts with jonas .
@@tortoiseoflegends4466 only eric and aaron seem invested in this show . rick used to be my favourite but now he seems like he didn't even want to be here . Calvin does nothing for me in reactions so i can't complain .
@@musicmashup9597no you can't, because they exist today. Unless, you send the present them back in time and kill them or create a quantum entanglement alternate reality and kill them.
Wow they really dropped the ball with their comprehension right at the finish line. And I love Aaron, but they just keep letting him ramble and he’s somehow almost always off-track.
I mean, Aaron is super problematic for other reasons. After next week's reaction I'm no longer watching any more videos because I'm tired of him and the absolute dog shit nonsense he says. Like with the whole name thing. I'm sure he would correct people if they mispronounced his name. It's insulting. Especially when it was so easy to correct! And they Did correct him on it. But he kept making fun of the traditional Norse throat singing and calling it sex noises and then mocked ASL to Eric. Who I believe has said he is HoH and uses ASL/hearing aids (I could be wrong but that's what someone told me).
If HOH means hard of hearing yes, Eric is deaf in one ear and has been since birth. However he seems very comfortable talking about it and has made jokes about it himself on several other occasions. I think If Aaron made a joke about it I highly doubt Eric took offense. It’s all in good fun as these guys have been close friends for I think over seven years now and when you’re hanging out with your friends you joke around about stuff that would not be appropriate to say to others. I have no context to the other things you said you had issues with, as I don’t actually watch these certain reactions I just always like any new video they post and then read some comments, but I don’t think Aaron meant any arm to hearing impaired people and that it was just a harmless joke to his buddy. :) sorry if that was unnecessarily long I just wanted to provide some context if you didn’t know, but obviously you can have any opinion on him that you want it’s a free country. 🤷♀️
@@joseybennett9786 Eric being HoH does Not give his friend a pass. This is the equivalent of saying I have a black friend so I can make racist jokes. You nor Eric do Not speak for the whole HoH community. My partner is HoH and he was very upset at the "joke." Confused at first because Aaron was making nonsensical gestures but after I explained to him, he was angry and rightfully so. *Edit: and just because Eric laughed does not necessarily mean he actually is okay with it. I often let my "friends" bully me because of how I was raised and hated confrontation. But even though I laughed I secretly hated how they treated me. And I finally snapped after years of putting up with it.* And he still made fun of a traditional art form and equated it to sex noises. They literally rewatched these to edit them and thought it was ok to include. This is on the internet. Where Anyone can see and they just let offensive shit fly because Aaron's their friend.
@@Orion_TheyThem Those are all very valid points and I completely understand what your'e saying. It truly wasn't my intention to excuse inappropriate behavior towards a minority group or "speak" on their behalf in any way. it was quite literally only in respect to Eric and how he acts about it. Which is exactly one of you points I guess "that Eric doesn't speak for the whole HoH."You're absolutely right and I didn't mean to imply that he did. All I really wanted to do was confirm your question of if Eric was HoH, and tell you of observations I've made of his behavior towards it, because iv'e seen way too many of their videos lol. I definitely agree with you that since it's being put out for anyone to see like this and not just friends talking in a living room, you should probably be more considerate and careful of what you say. As for Aaron making fun of a traditional art form, again I have no context for that. As I said I haven't actually watched this show and I didn't watch this reaction, I just sometimes skim through their new videos if the ones for whatever show I like aren't out yet. And I like to read comments. Anyway, I apologize if I offended you or was very ignorant I really didn't intend to be and I hope I didn't upset you.
OMG this is frustrating to watch! They took so many notes, but they don’t seem to refer back to them much when they are unsure of who is who. So all the note taking did was distract them from what the show is telling them.
Jonas can't die no matter what, bcs his future self already exists. They already showed this concept a couple of times (Noah tries to kill Adam, Ulrich tries to kill Helge, Helge tries to kill younger version of himself). Aaron doesn't understand that the death in time travel is just the farthest point (for a character) in the loop. Claudia from Martha world can die, bcs she never had a future beyond this point (she is always killed there).
When i first watched montage i got chills and not only it wasn't there , but they thought it was just season 1 and season 2 moments and nothing more ... it explained and connected everything , story of noah , adam and others.
They mentioned in this viewing that Bartosz was not shown to be older like the others. If you remember back to I believe S2E1 there were two men digging in the cave. One of them stated that the other no longer believed in Adam. He then killed the guy with the axe to the head. That was Noah killing Bartosz.
Bunch of overthinkers got confused on the easiest and awesome episode of the dark. Could have taken lesser note taking like in a classroom and be more observing the scene and characters ,and the fact they call this episode as clip show is straight up shocking
"Winden, the Whirlpool of Incest" - Fantastic alternate title for this show! It's been so fun to watch you all tie yourselves in knots trying to figure it out. Pun intended.
Right? It's physically taxing. I never had this hard of a time with the show on my first viewing. Especially by this episode, and I'm not even a professional reactor.
@@kvm6 Omg.... That was THE WORST reaction to DARK ever... They kept blabbering and laughing all the time... Also they kept referring to everyone as THIS WOMAN, THAT MAN etc
Oh no, I'm getting worried about the finale now because they really should have more of an understanding about everything than they do. This episode explains so much but they seem more confused then ever. I really hope they don't drop the ball
"Winden, the whirlpool of incest": it sure is, but you got it wrong about Ulrich banging his great-great-grandmother: Silja is *not* his daughter. First, in this timeline (world A), Ulrich and Hannah never had a child, Silja is Hannah's and Egon's daughter. Second, in the other timeline (world B), you seem to have missed that Hannah bleeding (when old Egon came to save her) meant she was having a miscarriage, so hers and Ulrich's child sadly never lived. That's what Eva meant when saying to Egon he had to "create his own past": he came to take Hannah back to the 50s so she can meet young Egon there (and presumably have Silja in world B too). On the other hand, since Egon is both Silja's father and Bartocz' great-grandfather, it means Bartocz banged his great-aunt 😅 Also about Ulrich: even if he didn't bang his great-great-grandmother, we have: Ulrich -> Martha -> the Unknown Trio -> Trente -> Ulrich, so he still is his own great-great-grandfather 😅
Hannah is the mother of Silja. SIlja is the mother of Agnes. Agnes is the mother of Tronte and Tronte is the father of Ulrich. So Ulrich banged Hannah, his great-great-grandmother.
I never watched DARK while reading the website. I think the problem is the fact that they have several series to react to, therefore they have to many different storylines and characters to put in their minds...what result in them not remembering the important storylines of Dark. This is a shame, because Dark is the best show ever! I hope you guys will rewatch on your own and then see that. But I still love your reactions and discussions though. Greetings from 🇳🇱 (the Netherlands).
It's not that they can't kill them, it's that we know they don't because we know they are alive in the future. They are talking about it as if there's some magical spell on them making them immortal and they are trying to work out the rules of this "magic".
A high school drop out who has been messing with time travel for 66 years though. Its just funny to me that even at 82 years of age, and with old Claudia at the same age physically, she's still the grown up and he's the child. And around Claudia he is Jonas, not Adam. It's deep.
There's only one more episode. I'm staying for Eric and Rick. But yeah, after next week I'm done with this channel. Aaron is such a know it all. He's ruined this channel for me. I wish it was just Rick and Eric, like with Lost. That's really what brought me to this channel.
@@Orion_TheyThem I'm not done with the channel, I actually like the guys, including Aaron, but I'm never watching them watch a subtitled or complex show again
At some point in the future I wanna see a reaction of only Normies - Pat and Blind Wave - Aaron, just out of morbid curiosity what that would end up like...
Aaron catches shit for how he struggles with following plot, but IMO he's usually the person who understands characters and motivations the best out of the whole group. Even in Dark he tends to have a better sense for it than the rest.
Their confusion confuses me 😅, there is so much they didn't catch that they are still discussing stuff answered in S1 Like, and someone correct me if i missed it, but they never catch that the Unknown is Tronte's dad right? Fun reaction regartless, it's just annoying how lost they got with this show (can't believe The Normies understood it more jajaja)
@@HerSandiness when the unknown talks to Tronte in the woods he heavily hints that he is his father. I think he talks about Tronte's father and says how he named Tronte. Also it is highlighted in all the family trees
@@beni6493 He also tells Tronte he knew his mother and that he has no name. (Ich habe kein' Namen.) If you read the bible a man "knowing" a woman very often means, they banged. Also "kein" is pronounced like the german version of Cain, the firstborn of Adam and Eve.
Interesting fact that I've never seen anyone comment on: basically almost every character that died during the seasons was murdered by someone from their own family. My favorite is Adam killing Hannah but the saddest is Helena killing Katharina
True... Kinda I'd ironic considering we find out what Tannhaus they're to do up bring back his family. He created characters that ended up murdering each other.
I was waiting for a future me to come and talk me out of hitting the dislike button on this video, but no one showed up, so I’m sorry guys. Really dropped the ball on this episode and probably on the whole show.
If one thinks systematically and logically about this, using the rules established by the show, this episode answers SO many questions. I think most of the confusions here stem from not trying to take the rules, logic and constraints of time travel that the show has hammered again and again seriously. When you keep ignoring the rules, and think things can willy nilly change, you open yourself up for a world of confusion.
Wow, you guys are really clueless. This episode connected the most dots and you all are still struggling with character names on the penultimate episode.
This episode literally answers all but one big question and the boys are still confused. It's fun to watch them puzzle over it. Still, the next episode should make it crystal clear...we hope.
A mistake watching the third and final season was not realizing that the series provides explanations in each episode, not new mysteries. the scene of Martha who doesn't save Jonas shows what happened to her not getting into the house and him having to hide in the attic. you are seeing about 4 different worlds.
You guys keep thinking the show is trying to trick you in the penultimate episode when it's giving you literally all the answers. In this episode so much is clarified and you keep making theories about things you already should know from S1. It's kinda sad you're missing the plot of the show because of it. Hope you catch up before the finale or you're just not gonna enjoy it as you should.
The problem is, the series showed hannah being pregnant with ulrich in martha's world. The crew forgot hannah is also pregnant with egon in jonas' world.
well, it was the first episode that had more answers than questions - they were not prepared. and the new questions where hinted only by aspect ration, door joints and a 'wall paper improbability vs a year'
I love you guys and your reactions, but I feel like you missed a lot due to taking notes or talking to each other while missing the subs. I really think that watching this show in english would’ve helped a lot, because at this point (the end of the series) you still have so many questions and seem to be confused while the series already wrapped everything together. Still enjoy your reactions
Even before seeing their reaction to the finale, as a whole, very disappointed in their reaction to this show. That’s why I do feel that some of these foreign shows should be watched in English. Reading the subtitles, taking notes, cracking jokes, it’s just too much for them. I do appreciate them trying though.
I thought I was going crazy a couple episodes ago, or that the show was messing with the alt-world versions of Martha, but I noticed her scratch was on different cheeks back then. I thought it was supposed to show two different versions of her. But in this one episode, presumably the same Martha has the fence scratch on opposite cheeks. It's on her left cheek at the beginning, then her right cheek at the end. This continuity slip better be significant in the finale!
Yes , young Noah kills his middle aged father Bartosz in 2021 while digging the tunnel, so we never saw old Bartozs. So everything is connected. Almost everybody is related. Besides Regina. She can maybe live because we do not know her real father! Maybe it is Tronte maybe it is Bernd Doppler. With both Claudia had an affair😂 Greetings from Germany❤
38:00 they can only die after all ties to the past have been completed. Once they stop acting on the past, they aren't "already alive" anymore so they can be killed (or kill themselves). So basically any character when they're old can die because all of their actions on the knot are complete already.
absolutely the worst and densest dark reactors in any time line holy fuk how can they get this far and watch EP 7 and still be completely clueless HOW!?!?
I'm not going to be mad at you for not understanding this show. Because first of all it just contributes to all the negativity in this world, and second this show is super confusing. What I will say is that this show really deserves a rewatch from you guys. There are so many things you'll notice by rewatching and I feel like a lot of your confusion will go away if you rewatch it and take everything at face value, and not try to find any deeper meaning. Hopefully a rewatch on the channel (I don't think it's been done before by other reaction channels, so that should be fun). Otherwise in your own time.
A lot of people seem upset at you not getting it and I kinda was too because I am watching one episode weekly with you and I'm not that confused. But I also recognize. You guys watch like 30 things weekly. It is quite understandable that a show this compact has lost you. That being said, a rewatch of season 3 wouldn't be bad. Silja is Egon's daughter
Jonas can be killed but only by someone who isn’t involved in the knot. To put it in a simple example, let’s say I travel back in time and say kill me grandfather before he has say my father, my father never exists and if my father never exists he doesn’t exist to have me, if I don’t exist then I can’t go back in time and kill my grandfather, therefore my grandfather will exist. Therefore I can’t go back in time and kill my grandfather before he has had my father. Because older Jonas/Adam does things that result in Jonas being born, he can’t kill himself until he has carried out all the things that cause himself to have been born. Noah can’t kill him because Noah’s mother is Silja and Adam sent in motion Silja going to the future until the time she returns to meet Bartosz and they have Noah and Agnes. If Agnes isn’t born, Mikkel will never exist and therefore Jonas will never exist etc etc etc, that will be the case for literally all of the people entangled in the knot. They will only die or be able to be killed when they no longer play a part in events of the knot. Ouroboros
@@kvm6 I don’t need to rewatch it, I know what happens and what I said still remains correct. You clearly didn’t read what I wrote. Also you said Martha killed Adam before she became Eva now you’re changing your story and talking about S3E08 and Eva awaiting her death which has got nothing to do with it at all, I think it’s you who needs to rewatch but I would suggest you rewatch the whole series because you clearly haven’t got a clue what you are talking about
@@Penddraig7 Why has it got nothing to do with it? Younger Martha gets the final push to stop loving Jonas and working against him when she sees Eva dead (explained by Eva in S3E8). This is part of the Knot and so is Martha. I dunno why you consider Eva's death as not being part of the knot.
PS: Remember in Season 2 how middle age Noah tried to shoot Adam and the gun did not work? Adam told Noah that he still do not understand how the game works. Then Agnes took this gun and shot her brother Noah and the gun worked and he died?
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noah killed bartosh in 2x1 😢
Claudia could kill another Claudia because there is no older version of Claudia in Martha's world. Jonas' world Claudia specifically asks other Claudia if she has met older self and she says no, which implies there is no future her in that world.
Their _increased_ confusion after watching _the episode that ties everything together_ really highlights how Dark is the ultimate test for attentiveness and comprehension for any show watcher.
And they failed. At least I still have The Normies' reaction to fall back on.
Absolutely insane how they can look directly at the family tree to make sure they are right about the connection between Silja, Agnes, Tronte and Ulrich but they still think Silja is Ulrich’s daughter even though it says it’s Egon on the exact same tree. 😂🤦🏾♀️
Absolutely insane how me and you don't go together. ah ha what's poppin shawty
@@Kinobambino Absolutely insane levels of incel thirst...
Aaron: Noah didn't say he cant die, he said he cant kill himself.
Noah 30 seconds earlier : You cant die.
This is supposed to be the episode where everything "clicks", but apparently it didn't.
I rememeber being super confused with the quantum entanglement thing. I mean I knew WHAT happend, but couldn't understand HOW it happened... Still don't get it tbh, like, how we have two versions of this one specific event. How did Bartosz showed up in one but not in the other?
@@VantolStark Its like the Schrödingers cat concept , which you kind of have to accept. And during the apocalypse time stands still for a moment so you can change things.
@@VantolStark It should be explained at the beginning of the last episode.
SPOILER
Small break of time during the apocalypse.
@@esi3mn4j68 Yes, Jones hears Claudia say this on radio in 2050.. S2E01 i think
34:00 Noah allrdy tried to kill Adam in S2. Also remember how old Helge tried to kill himself. Also a fact hat most didnt notice is that Hannah tried or thought about to kill herself in S2 before middle age Jonas showed up.
Stranger Jonas also told Jonas in S1 that he cant save Mikkel, because he allrdy exist. Its basically like killing himself, if he would change it.
It's interesting if you rewatch when Noah tries to kill Adam they talk about how Noah thought it was his destiny to kill him. So he would have known about Adam not being able to die, but he thought he could kill him at that specific time and place because he thought it was supposed to happen
@@jomontanya7114 I mean tbf, it isn't that farfetched since Adam is already old as fuck and as far we know there is no older version of Adam hopping around time. So Noah thinking he might be able to kill him wasn't that stupid.
@@Jakokokoroko by the way this is how Adam knew Noah would not harm him in 2x8: he remembers witnessing (as young Jonas) himself (as Adam) killing Martha, and since it had not yet happened at the time Noah is trying to kill him, he knew that he would not be harmed by Noah before that happens.
If Elisabeth blindfolded herself, turned around and shot behind her back, she would have still hit the rope that Jonas was swinging from. i guess it couldn't happen because she would never try it that way, lol.
@@billross7245She did not really have a choice: quoting Stranger "We're not free in what we do, because we're not free in what we want" (1x10)- no one has a choice, they only have the illusion of freewill. by the way (for geeks), the show starts with a quote from Einstein (having a determinist based theory) and moves towards quantum physics (that are non-determinist)
Show answers so many questions. BLINDwave crew gets more confused.
I was surprised going back to The Normies reactions that they had a much firmer grasp on what was happening at this point in the show. the Blind Wave crew just seem to talk themselves in circles a lot with this show.
@@tortoiseoflegends4466 I think it helped there were only 3 of them if they had the whole crew they miss so much stuff. Some of the others like to talk way too much which distracts everyone.
@@tortoiseoflegends4466 Aaron does the most, and with the most confidence
@@tortoiseoflegends4466 I think the Normies just deal way better with subtitled shows as well. The Blindwave crew seems way more competent when they watch a show with subtitles. Also, the Normies don't just straight up ignore the original language that gets spoken. They listen attentively to how characters sound and how they say stuff even if they don't understand the language.
The most infuriating thing the Blindwave crew as a whole has done so far is just talk over all the German dialogue and just straight up ignore all the audio since it is German anyway and they just have to read the subtitles alone so they can just talk whenever they want... I still remember when they made fun of Eric for trying to pay attention to the audio since they all can't understand German anyway. That was so damn obnoxious! 93% of communication is nonverbal in nature anyways and all in all the tone of voice we use is responsible for about 35-40 percent of the message we are sending.
"Tone involves the volume you use, the level and type of emotion that you communicate and the emphasis that you place on the words that you choose" and you can absolutely pick up on a LOT of this even if you understand very little of a foreign language - especially if the language is similar to your own... and newsflash! German and English are both Germanic languages so if you just paid more attention maybe you would be able to pick up some things...
In general I normally prefer Blindwave's reactions but they really dropped the ball on Dark compared to the Normies.
I'm with the guys here. By this time, I was really confused, but even after the finale I was still a bit confused so I had to look up the family tree stuff.
It's amazing that in the second last episode they're still discussing whether people can die if their future self exists. Fun discussion nonetheless
They joke too much and misses a lot
@@joaobezerra5652 Exactly. They were still asking what happened to Bartosz..
@@joaobezerra5652 Have you seen RAINYDAY REACTIONS of DARK... I loved them
I know lol, if you want a great analysis of the show I recommend filmbuffs reactions.
@@jackgoodall6865 Film buffs dude was a beast... The best DARK reactor out there.
The "Adam is not Jonas" circlejerk that went for so long is the perfect example of how they get stuck in nonsensical things while missing crucial details
absolute cringe watching them reacting to this
They are dumb 😂 I loved juicelab reaction. They are smart
FOR REAL! I hate Aaron with everything in my body
Y'all are toxic af and act like everyone needs to understand everything on the first watch while you have watched dozens of reactions to know the shows
Silja is the daughter of Hanna and Egon. Silja and Bartoz had Noah and Agnes. Agnes had Tronte who had Ulrich. Also you DID see older Bartoz. Noah killed him with a pick axe in S2 Ep 1
I didn't realise who Hanno was but when they said Agnes, I immediately understood that Bartosz and Silja are parents of Noah and Agnes.
2. Exactly... They wondered what happened with Bartosz in the beginning of the reaction.
@@akashvig5007 Egon's wife mentioned his name to Egon and showed a picture of him earlier in the season
@@harryballsak1123 I know. When she has come to the police station...
But I forgot that detail when I was watching this episode 😅
@@akashvig5007 I think they'd be less confused if they didn't watch with aaron. He annoys me the most and I rarely this watch this channel
@@harryballsak1123 it seems that he is a character forced to make fun of everything, even in dramatic scenes
I think you guys were so convinced that the show was going to play a trick on you that you didn’t trust what the show was telling you and now you’ve completely lost what is happening 🤷🏻♂️
Me: Ohh, they noticed the hangar door thing, this is gonna be great!
Five minutes later..
- They don't remember Silja at all
- They think Silja is Ulrich's daughter, completely forgetting about Egon
- They forget Hanno is Noah's name
- They forget about Bartosz's adult self being killed by his son
- They completely forget who Agnes is until way later
- They forget about the most simple rule in the whole show!!! If you already exist as an adult, you can't die..
For fuck's sake, guys!
Forgetting Bartosz's death is 100% forgivable, as it happened a long time ago for them at this point. It's one of the few scenes that I'm really surprised the show doesn't remind the viewer of.
They've dropped the ball on Agnes ever since she was introduced tbh. For the whole show she's been 'that one lady in the dress'. Maddening.
Is that the reason why Jonas world claudia was able to kill Martha world claudia cuz her older self has no existence in Martha World?
@@bishensingha1787 exactly
@@bishensingha1787 Yes and it's the same reason why Jonas B (Jonas who travelled to Martha world) could be killed by Martha. He has no future and it's his destiny to die there while Jonas A grows up to become Adam.
@@TheJerbol Hmm gotcha!
It's the first time I see people so lost with the events of this episode.
This was the episode where majority of the things were explained, and yet :/
This was THE EPISODE that clears everything.
@@akashvig5007supposed to clear everything... but in their case it didn't i guess ....
@@cmo5173 They react to these episodes weekly while most of us binged this show. They won't remember most of what happened in last week's episode.
I get it, I'm being petty. But watching the answers fly right over their heads frustrates me to no end.
That's not being petty. People used to clown on the normies because BW takes so many notes, but Rana, Suraj, and Niki understood so much better with lest notes taken.
@@SengokuTheGouda Maybe they should take fewer notes and pay more attention. LOL You're going to miss stuff when writing notes on a subtitled show.
@@SengokuTheGouda tbf the normies binge watch but bw always has a week pause in-between episodes. Dark is the kinda show you miss so much if you don't binge it.
@@TheOtterBear61 i noticed normies eventually stopped taking so many notes and paid more attention to the subs
@@johnnydeleon8210 Nikki, Suraj and Rana took notes during discussion if they weren't able to take them when watching. Also, they interacted with comments, which didn't spoil them but laid stuff out when needed (which admittedly wasn't much).
Calvin catching the different direction the doors opens in the bunker...
I hope he remembers that for the final episode
This episode is the moxt explainatory episode in the show. This ties every single thing together. I feel like everyone here is even more confused?
They are completely unwavering in their theory that time can be changed on a whim, something which is disproven in S1.
Aaron seems especially confused.
Just finished the full length reaction and yes I agree with you guys they seemed even more confused
they for some reason cant wrap their head around the most basic simple rule set up from season 1, whats happened happened. If your older self exists, you cant die when you're younger, if Ulrich is in prison in the 1986, you cant try to break him out in 1953. I dont know what it would take to prove them to this.
@@haridaspalleeri6765 Problem is, there are a lot of movies and tv-shows with time travel, so there are lots of rules of time travel out there. So I can see why they would be confused.
10:35 Aaron 😭 man is confusing them even more, Eric was absolutely correct
I mean they were hella impressed just by realizing ulrich is his own great great grandpa but they still dont know Jonas and all other characters are their great great gradpa in some ways , how ?
This episode answers it all
Because they were drawing conclusions on the fly, they haven't had the benefit of going over it in their head three times before discussing it
Whose grandpa is Jonas? Did the Origin have a baby with someone?
@@patrikneperfekta7575 if you look at the family tree, the Origin (the infinity symbol) is in the middle of both of the world’s family tree. on both the left and right hand sides of the Origin’s box, it’s connected to Agnes (of both worlds). Essentially the Origin has sex with both versions of agnes, which both each give birth to Tronte of their world. So there isn’t 2 family trees, it’s actually one massive family tree with multiple versions of the same people with in.
So to answer your question specifically, who is jonas a grandpa to? Jonas is grandpa to both versions of Tronte. So he’s a grandpa to two people (even tho they’re still the same person, just of two different worlds.)
@@patrikneperfekta7575 jonas is tronte's grandpa
It's actually extraordinary how everything came together seamlessly by the end. Something I didn't think was going to happen because of how insanely complicated the show became.
And I'm surprised that none of them noticed that the aspect ratio was different in the Tannhaus scenes.
I noticed
Man I really hope they watch an explained video or something. I've never seen them be this lost, mostly by their own hand since this episode is so clear and blatant.
20:05 If you ever meet Aaron in person, you should absolutely say his name wrong on purpose. "But it's just easier for ME to say, it doesn't matter what your name actually is!"
The show screamed at us over and over that things cannot be changed, I don't know why are you theorizing under assumption that the characters have control over their fates.
I really don't wish to be down on other people for not understanding what is a very confusing show.
But we've spent three seasons with characters constantly trying to break the cycle in some manner and it always fails something always stops them.
- Jonas fails to bring Mikkel back to the present.
- Claudia fails to prevent her father's death.
- Ulrich fails to kill Helge.
- Katarina fails to rescue Ulrich.
Events occur because they are part of the loop. In a loop all things have already happened. There are a few instances in which deviation can occur - which is explained further in the next episode, but otherwise all events are already written. No one has free will. No one can kill anyone except when they are 'meant to'.
Dark is only confusing when the answers haven't been given yet.
It's infuriating how little they get from the show.
thank you
at least Filmbuff and normies got how amazing this episode was and explained almost everything.
filmbuff best reactor, dudes way too smart
Filmbuff was way too good...
filmbuff is a genius
also zygart is a god damn genius. I believe he predicted Mikkel is Michael in episode 2
@@jackgoodall6865 He did... I liked his reactions too... I remembered his long hair but forgot his name 😂
Regarding the discussion where Aaron pointed out that by that logic no one can be killed in a time travel world is wrong. To prevent this argument is why they kinda explain the Schrodinger's cat theory here.
Yes, theoretically you have a future tomorrow, but until you see that future yourself, it exists and doesn't exist simultaneously. Once you see it, it exists permanently. This is also the reason why Claudia 1 asks Claudia 2 if she's seen her older self. She confirms that Claudia 2 doesnt have a future before trying to kill her.
Not quite, quantum entanglement doesn’t apply to the time travel, just the realities (Martha enters or doesn’t, Claudia speaks to Adam or doesn’t)
The reason they can’t die is because the future has already happened, it’s less so that you “can’t” die and more so that you “don’t” die
@@cloudy772future has already happened is a pointless statement in a time travel show. And you don't die and can't die is the exact same in this context.
This is definitely not the show to watch with a group of friends who will be joking around and talking shit half of the time. Being on the penultimate episode and still THIS clueless is honestly shocking lol
Silja is the daughter of Hannah and Egon, not Ulrich haha
@@nugking2021 really? Even on the dark io site it says Hannah and egon
@@nugking2021 Yeah, because the Egon from Eva's world is directed by Eva to "keep his bloodline alive", then he goes to Hannah. Silja A is the daughter of Hannah A and Egon A and Silja B is the daughter of Hannah B and Egon B. Hannah never has a child with Ulrich, we see Hannah B have a miscarriage right before Egon B arrives.
@@nugking2021 yes but we never see Silja from Eva's world, the one we see is always the daughter from Hannah and Egon
@@nugking2021In both worlds, Silja is the daughter of Hannah and Egon. In world B, you see a bloody Hannah implying she had a miscarriage and the child of Hannah and Ulrich is never born. Old Egon is sent there by Eva to send Hannah to young Egon in 1953 so they get together and have Silja together.
@@JBjopa8 We never see Peter's mom, so she doesn't exist?
Me looking back on the Normies reactions: Perhaps I treated you too harshly...
Exactly, at least they were on board from 3x6
Lmao true.
Normies might be little bit unserious but they were invested in characters and understood this episode too , while blind wave didn't even realise that family tree starts with jonas .
The Normies followed along pretty well IMO, and even when they didn't catch certain things they were always invested.
@@tortoiseoflegends4466 only eric and aaron seem invested in this show . rick used to be my favourite but now he seems like he didn't even want to be here . Calvin does nothing for me in reactions so i can't complain .
1 episode before the finale and they still can't remember character names.
Like how is that even possible lol.
Nobody can kill you guys today on UA-cam because the series finale is already on Patreon.
XD
But I can go back in time and kill them
@@musicmashup9597no you can't, because they exist today. Unless, you send the present them back in time and kill them or create a quantum entanglement alternate reality and kill them.
@@musicmashup9597 You can't actually... Something or someone will interrupt you.
😂
Wow they really dropped the ball with their comprehension right at the finish line.
And I love Aaron, but they just keep letting him ramble and he’s somehow almost always off-track.
At least we still have The Normies reaction. They understood the story.
I mean, Aaron is super problematic for other reasons. After next week's reaction I'm no longer watching any more videos because I'm tired of him and the absolute dog shit nonsense he says. Like with the whole name thing. I'm sure he would correct people if they mispronounced his name. It's insulting. Especially when it was so easy to correct! And they Did correct him on it.
But he kept making fun of the traditional Norse throat singing and calling it sex noises and then mocked ASL to Eric. Who I believe has said he is HoH and uses ASL/hearing aids (I could be wrong but that's what someone told me).
If HOH means hard of hearing yes, Eric is deaf in one ear and has been since birth. However he seems very comfortable talking about it and has made jokes about it himself on several other occasions. I think If Aaron made a joke about it I highly doubt Eric took offense. It’s all in good fun as these guys have been close friends for I think over seven years now and when you’re hanging out with your friends you joke around about stuff that would not be appropriate to say to others. I have no context to the other things you said you had issues with, as I don’t actually watch these certain reactions I just always like any new video they post and then read some comments, but I don’t think Aaron meant any arm to hearing impaired people and that it was just a harmless joke to his buddy. :) sorry if that was unnecessarily long I just wanted to provide some context if you didn’t know, but obviously you can have any opinion on him that you want it’s a free country. 🤷♀️
@@joseybennett9786 Eric being HoH does Not give his friend a pass. This is the equivalent of saying I have a black friend so I can make racist jokes. You nor Eric do Not speak for the whole HoH community. My partner is HoH and he was very upset at the "joke." Confused at first because Aaron was making nonsensical gestures but after I explained to him, he was angry and rightfully so.
*Edit: and just because Eric laughed does not necessarily mean he actually is okay with it. I often let my "friends" bully me because of how I was raised and hated confrontation. But even though I laughed I secretly hated how they treated me. And I finally snapped after years of putting up with it.*
And he still made fun of a traditional art form and equated it to sex noises. They literally rewatched these to edit them and thought it was ok to include. This is on the internet. Where Anyone can see and they just let offensive shit fly because Aaron's their friend.
@@Orion_TheyThem Those are all very valid points and I completely understand what your'e saying. It truly wasn't my intention to excuse inappropriate behavior towards a minority group or "speak" on their behalf in any way. it was quite literally only in respect to Eric and how he acts about it. Which is exactly one of you points I guess "that Eric doesn't speak for the whole HoH."You're absolutely right and I didn't mean to imply that he did. All I really wanted to do was confirm your question of if Eric was HoH, and tell you of observations I've made of his behavior towards it, because iv'e seen way too many of their videos lol. I definitely agree with you that since it's being put out for anyone to see like this and not just friends talking in a living room, you should probably be more considerate and careful of what you say. As for Aaron making fun of a traditional art form, again I have no context for that. As I said I haven't actually watched this show and I didn't watch this reaction, I just sometimes skim through their new videos if the ones for whatever show I like aren't out yet. And I like to read comments. Anyway, I apologize if I offended you or was very ignorant I really didn't intend to be and I hope I didn't upset you.
OMG this is frustrating to watch! They took so many notes, but they don’t seem to refer back to them much when they are unsure of who is who. So all the note taking did was distract them from what the show is telling them.
Jonas can't die no matter what, bcs his future self already exists. They already showed this concept a couple of times (Noah tries to kill Adam, Ulrich tries to kill Helge, Helge tries to kill younger version of himself). Aaron doesn't understand that the death in time travel is just the farthest point (for a character) in the loop. Claudia from Martha world can die, bcs she never had a future beyond this point (she is always killed there).
When i first watched montage i got chills and not only it wasn't there , but they thought it was just season 1 and season 2 moments and nothing more ... it explained and connected everything , story of noah , adam and others.
They mentioned in this viewing that Bartosz was not shown to be older like the others. If you remember back to I believe S2E1 there were two men digging in the cave. One of them stated that the other no longer believed in Adam. He then killed the guy with the axe to the head. That was Noah killing Bartosz.
It was Axe to shoulder i think
To the shoulder, to the side (and then Noah brings down the axe, again, but we don’t see the point of contact).
@@akashvig5007 Axe to shoulder wouldn't kill someone in one blow. You have to either hit the heart or the spine in that area.
@@firstenforemost I agree.. axe to shoulder bone sounds way to painful. 😢
Bunch of overthinkers got confused on the easiest and awesome episode of the dark. Could have taken lesser note taking like in a classroom and be more observing the scene and characters ,and the fact they call this episode as clip show is straight up shocking
"Winden, the Whirlpool of Incest" - Fantastic alternate title for this show! It's been so fun to watch you all tie yourselves in knots trying to figure it out. Pun intended.
Oh my god they are so confused its hurting me😭
Right? It's physically taxing. I never had this hard of a time with the show on my first viewing. Especially by this episode, and I'm not even a professional reactor.
@@cloetn1987 Being a reactor would hurt for this series, like see Jaby Koay's reaction to Dark S1.
@@kvm6 Omg.... That was THE WORST reaction to DARK ever...
They kept blabbering and laughing all the time... Also they kept referring to everyone as THIS WOMAN, THAT MAN etc
Oh no, I'm getting worried about the finale now because they really should have more of an understanding about everything than they do. This episode explains so much but they seem more confused then ever. I really hope they don't drop the ball
I think they dropped it a while back sadly. This is not their kind of show imo....
@@Silver-rx1mh i mean eric seems exited like always , but rick and calvin seem uninterested , at least aaron tries to get it .
@@ekaterine4300 I know right.
It's crazy to think how many people were excited for them to watch this show.
@@RoderickThe13 well i was very excited
"Winden, the whirlpool of incest": it sure is, but you got it wrong about Ulrich banging his great-great-grandmother: Silja is *not* his daughter. First, in this timeline (world A), Ulrich and Hannah never had a child, Silja is Hannah's and Egon's daughter. Second, in the other timeline (world B), you seem to have missed that Hannah bleeding (when old Egon came to save her) meant she was having a miscarriage, so hers and Ulrich's child sadly never lived. That's what Eva meant when saying to Egon he had to "create his own past": he came to take Hannah back to the 50s so she can meet young Egon there (and presumably have Silja in world B too).
On the other hand, since Egon is both Silja's father and Bartocz' great-grandfather, it means Bartocz banged his great-aunt 😅
Also about Ulrich: even if he didn't bang his great-great-grandmother, we have:
Ulrich -> Martha -> the Unknown Trio -> Trente -> Ulrich, so he still is his own great-great-grandfather 😅
Hannah is the mother of Silja. SIlja is the mother of Agnes. Agnes is the mother of Tronte and Tronte is the father of Ulrich. So Ulrich banged Hannah, his great-great-grandmother.
But did not have a child with her...
This show is the best... So well thought out and executed...
I will never get tired of reading these comments about DARK.
They aren't wrong though. Silja is his ancestor. She gave birth to Ulrich's grandmother, Agnes, which means Hannah is also Ulrich's ancestor
@@potatonugget5629 Yeah but Ulrich himself isn't his own great great grandfather, at least not that way. As The OP said he is through Martha
They really should have used the website more lol
Agreed, we are almost done with the show and they still struggle to remember who is who when they hear some names 🤭
@@JBjopa8 I think their finale reaction and discussion afterwards was good. Looking forward to the podcast for the show
@@brady3319 I watched yesterday the full length one but the discussion afterwards was not uploaded at that time I have to watch it later today.
I never watched DARK while reading the website. I think the problem is the fact that they have several series to react to, therefore they have to many different storylines and characters to put in their minds...what result in them not remembering the important storylines of Dark. This is a shame, because Dark is the best show ever! I hope you guys will rewatch on your own and then see that. But I still love your reactions and discussions though. Greetings from 🇳🇱 (the Netherlands).
This episode combined 1000 stories into one !!!!!
It's not that they can't kill them, it's that we know they don't because we know they are alive in the future. They are talking about it as if there's some magical spell on them making them immortal and they are trying to work out the rules of this "magic".
I just love how it ends with Adam wondering why he hasn't evaporated into nothing and here's Claudia, ready to spit some game.
which makes senae considering she ran a nuculer power plant and adams a highschool dropout.
A high school drop out who has been messing with time travel for 66 years though. Its just funny to me that even at 82 years of age, and with old Claudia at the same age physically, she's still the grown up and he's the child. And around Claudia he is Jonas, not Adam. It's deep.
They don t know the Shrodinger's experience? wtf ?? xD
Hanno is Noah ffs. Bartoz is Noah's father. Also young Noah kills mid-age Bartoz at the beginning of S2 with a pickaxe.
Calvin is the best in pronunciations all names 💯😁
Does anybody have a suitcase I can use? I'd go back to before they started the show and tell them to use the timeline site more.
Haven't you learned anything? Because this video of them being so confused already exists, you can't change their minds in the past. 😄
@@benediktmathes2528 😆
@@benediktmathes2528 Unless there is an apocalypse and time stands still for a moment, then he can use Quantum entanglement 😂
I dont think i can finish this reaction, its like they arent even paying attention to the show ffs
There's only one more episode. I'm staying for Eric and Rick. But yeah, after next week I'm done with this channel. Aaron is such a know it all. He's ruined this channel for me. I wish it was just Rick and Eric, like with Lost. That's really what brought me to this channel.
@@Orion_TheyThem I'm not done with the channel, I actually like the guys, including Aaron, but I'm never watching them watch a subtitled or complex show again
@@Orion_TheyThem for rick ? there is not single moment where i felt he cared about this show .
I think yall need a few more times watching this show and really appreciate how incredible it is.
I'm surprised the discussion didn't kick off with the fact Bartosz is the great great great great grandfather of all of his friends lol
That's why Eva tells old Bartosz to "save yourself so all of us live" hah
young Noah killed older Batorsz , he's the one that "lost faith", older noah tried to kill Adam remember with the gun and could not
At some point in the future I wanna see a reaction of only Normies - Pat and Blind Wave - Aaron, just out of morbid curiosity what that would end up like...
That would be funny!
Holy shit, i dont even want to imagine that
Aaron catches shit for how he struggles with following plot, but IMO he's usually the person who understands characters and motivations the best out of the whole group. Even in Dark he tends to have a better sense for it than the rest.
Their confusion confuses me 😅, there is so much they didn't catch that they are still discussing stuff answered in S1
Like, and someone correct me if i missed it, but they never catch that the Unknown is Tronte's dad right?
Fun reaction regartless, it's just annoying how lost they got with this show (can't believe The Normies understood it more jajaja)
To be honest, I never caught that the Unknown was Tronte's dad. Was that in this episode? It's been a while since i watched it.
@@HerSandiness when the unknown talks to Tronte in the woods he heavily hints that he is his father. I think he talks about Tronte's father and says how he named Tronte. Also it is highlighted in all the family trees
@@beni6493 He also tells Tronte he knew his mother and that he has no name. (Ich habe kein' Namen.)
If you read the bible a man "knowing" a woman very often means, they banged. Also "kein" is pronounced like the german version of Cain, the firstborn of Adam and Eve.
@@beni6493 i completely forgot about that, like I knew but I just forgot. Thanks for reminding me
Interesting fact that I've never seen anyone comment on: basically almost every character that died during the seasons was murdered by someone from their own family. My favorite is Adam killing Hannah but the saddest is Helena killing Katharina
Pretty easy when the whole town is one family practically :P
True... Kinda I'd ironic considering we find out what Tannhaus they're to do up bring back his family. He created characters that ended up murdering each other.
I was waiting for a future me to come and talk me out of hitting the dislike button on this video, but no one showed up, so I’m sorry guys. Really dropped the ball on this episode and probably on the whole show.
If one thinks systematically and logically about this, using the rules established by the show, this episode answers SO many questions. I think most of the confusions here stem from not trying to take the rules, logic and constraints of time travel that the show has hammered again and again seriously. When you keep ignoring the rules, and think things can willy nilly change, you open yourself up for a world of confusion.
Wow, you guys are really clueless. This episode connected the most dots and you all are still struggling with character names on the penultimate episode.
If they didn't understand this episode they are not watching
nah
7:50 Noah killed Bartosz in S2 E1 when the two were mining in the cave, which is why we dont see Bartosz in the future.
This episode literally answers all but one big question and the boys are still confused. It's fun to watch them puzzle over it. Still, the next episode should make it crystal clear...we hope.
If this episode didn't clear much for them, then I am sure next episode won't do it either..
@@akashvig5007 😄
@@JonInCanada1 Try Normies and RAINYDAY REACTIONS.... I won't spoil their reactions for you, but i found them to be very satisfying and good.
@@akashvig5007 I've seen the Normies and yes, it was quite satisfying to see how they reacted and picked up on things.
@@JonInCanada1 The normies are very famous... Rainyday reactions were also very good...Must try
A mistake watching the third and final season was not realizing that the series provides explanations in each episode, not new mysteries. the scene of Martha who doesn't save Jonas shows what happened to her not getting into the house and him having to hide in the attic. you are seeing about 4 different worlds.
Feels like these these dudes just don’t pay attention
You guys keep thinking the show is trying to trick you in the penultimate episode when it's giving you literally all the answers. In this episode so much is clarified and you keep making theories about things you already should know from S1. It's kinda sad you're missing the plot of the show because of it. Hope you catch up before the finale or you're just not gonna enjoy it as you should.
You guys have already finished this so nice observation with the hatch, Calvin!
What the fuck? Y’all cut the full circle montage out of the YT reaction?
Seriously though, wtf
That's what I was looking forward to the most ever since they started S3 :/
@@sensatewizard08 same😢
When is it, in the epiode?
@@David-bf2cg Uhh, near the end of the episode, they might have cut it because there is a dope piano track that plays throughout it.
Guys should watch the whole thing at least three times more.
You guys have completely lost the plot of the show. Unfortunate.
Silja is not Ulrich's kid, is Egon's daughter. Hannah got pregnant with Ulrich in world b and we are talking about world a were they went to the 20s
And if you think about it Egon is Bartoz great grandfather so incest everywhere hahah
The problem is, the series showed hannah being pregnant with ulrich in martha's world. The crew forgot hannah is also pregnant with egon in jonas' world.
Oh my god, I can't believe how much you got wrong during this episode.
well, it was the first episode that had more answers than questions - they were not prepared. and the new questions where hinted only by aspect ration, door joints and a 'wall paper improbability vs a year'
BLINDwave
I love you guys and your reactions, but I feel like you missed a lot due to taking notes or talking to each other while missing the subs.
I really think that watching this show in english would’ve helped a lot, because at this point (the end of the series) you still have so many questions and seem to be confused while the series already wrapped everything together. Still enjoy your reactions
They have no idea
Even before seeing their reaction to the finale, as a whole, very disappointed in their reaction to this show. That’s why I do feel that some of these foreign shows should be watched in English. Reading the subtitles, taking notes, cracking jokes, it’s just too much for them. I do appreciate them trying though.
Here we are! The best TV episode ever!
This is definitely the most disappointing reaction series they've ever done. How do you butcher such a great show?
Ah blind wave what a let down...
I thought I was going crazy a couple episodes ago, or that the show was messing with the alt-world versions of Martha, but I noticed her scratch was on different cheeks back then. I thought it was supposed to show two different versions of her. But in this one episode, presumably the same Martha has the fence scratch on opposite cheeks. It's on her left cheek at the beginning, then her right cheek at the end. This continuity slip better be significant in the finale!
embarrassing, can't even keep track of the most basic facts about the show, why even watch?
same logic applies to you? why even comment?
agnes is noas sister and shes also ulrichs grandmother and the daughter or bartoz didnt spell the names correctly but u can understand
they really lost it. they didn't get the show at all in the end. the answer are all there, people.
1:30 hahaha history in German actually starts with a G (Geschichte), so you guys were this close to the perfect alliteration!
Yes , young Noah kills his middle aged father Bartosz in 2021 while digging the tunnel, so we never saw old Bartozs. So everything is connected. Almost everybody is related. Besides Regina. She can maybe live because we do not know her real father! Maybe it is Tronte maybe it is Bernd Doppler. With both Claudia had an affair😂 Greetings from Germany❤
Think it was implied that Regina is Tronte's daughter. Regina is a Nielsen
Don't worry guys, they will recap of all it next episode. It will solve their confusion then.
38:00 they can only die after all ties to the past have been completed. Once they stop acting on the past, they aren't "already alive" anymore so they can be killed (or kill themselves).
So basically any character when they're old can die because all of their actions on the knot are complete already.
absolutely the worst and densest dark reactors in any time line
holy fuk how can they get this far and watch EP 7 and still be completely clueless
HOW!?!?
I'm not going to be mad at you for not understanding this show. Because first of all it just contributes to all the negativity in this world, and second this show is super confusing.
What I will say is that this show really deserves a rewatch from you guys. There are so many things you'll notice by rewatching and I feel like a lot of your confusion will go away if you rewatch it and take everything at face value, and not try to find any deeper meaning. Hopefully a rewatch on the channel (I don't think it's been done before by other reaction channels, so that should be fun). Otherwise in your own time.
Dark is only confusing when the answers haven't been given yet. (2)
A lot of people seem upset at you not getting it and I kinda was too because I am watching one episode weekly with you and I'm not that confused. But I also recognize. You guys watch like 30 things weekly.
It is quite understandable that a show this compact has lost you. That being said, a rewatch of season 3 wouldn't be bad.
Silja is Egon's daughter
Sigh 😔 1 episode left and you guys look that confused 😮
Ulrich is Bartozs' great-great grandson☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️
10:20 it is a super power in some sense - a quantum immortality
Silja is Egon's child not Ulrich's so. Basically. Ulrich is a Tiedemann
As a furry, I must say, we don't claim that horrible Cats movie.
"It's all fictional is what it is."
are you missing large parts or is it going over your head its all there
So the cops knew that Internal Affairs was setting them up..?
Jonas can be killed but only by someone who isn’t involved in the knot.
To put it in a simple example, let’s say I travel back in time and say kill me grandfather before he has say my father, my father never exists and if my father never exists he doesn’t exist to have me, if I don’t exist then I can’t go back in time and kill my grandfather, therefore my grandfather will exist. Therefore I can’t go back in time and kill my grandfather before he has had my father.
Because older Jonas/Adam does things that result in Jonas being born, he can’t kill himself until he has carried out all the things that cause himself to have been born.
Noah can’t kill him because Noah’s mother is Silja and Adam sent in motion Silja going to the future until the time she returns to meet Bartosz and they have Noah and Agnes. If Agnes isn’t born, Mikkel will never exist and therefore Jonas will never exist etc etc etc, that will be the case for literally all of the people entangled in the knot. They will only die or be able to be killed when they no longer play a part in events of the knot.
Ouroboros
Incorrect, AltMartha kills Adam before becoming Eva.
@@kvm6 no it’s not incorrect and she doesn’t kill Adam, what are you talking about
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@@Penddraig7 S3E8, Eva waits for her death and explains to Adam what is going to happen. Rewatch it and pay attention.
@@kvm6 I don’t need to rewatch it, I know what happens and what I said still remains correct. You clearly didn’t read what I wrote.
Also you said Martha killed Adam before she became Eva now you’re changing your story and talking about S3E08 and Eva awaiting her death which has got nothing to do with it at all, I think it’s you who needs to rewatch but I would suggest you rewatch the whole series because you clearly haven’t got a clue what you are talking about
@@Penddraig7 Why has it got nothing to do with it?
Younger Martha gets the final push to stop loving Jonas and working against him when she sees Eva dead (explained by Eva in S3E8). This is part of the Knot and so is Martha.
I dunno why you consider Eva's death as not being part of the knot.
i'm going to lose it man
no i lost it
PS: Remember in Season 2 how middle age Noah tried to shoot Adam and the gun did not work? Adam told Noah that he still do not understand how the game works. Then Agnes took this gun and shot her brother Noah and the gun worked and he died?
Someone played Signalis lol