Meet the most evil psychopath of the late Western Roman Empire: Ricimer.
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In this first video, we explore how the Magister Militum Ricimer's actions, greatly hastened the Fall of the Western Roman Empire. He was basically responsible for the death of 2 noble emperors, Majorian and Anthemius, possibly a few more, and possibly one important general, Marcellinus. His actions undid the efforts of Majorian and led to the complete dissolution of what was left of the western Imperium Romanum in the 460s and early 470s.
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Hello dear friends of ancient Rome. There is an audio mistake at minute mark 10:09, something apparently went wrong while rendering the video. It should say "Portus Illicitanus near Carthago Nova." The Carthago Nova part is missing. Sorry and thanks for your understanding.
Haha I was wondering about that but didn’t think about it twice😂👌
Flavius Stilicho, Flavius Aetius, and Julius Majorianus deserve their own Trilogy. The fall of the West hasn’t been covered in films very much unfortunately😔
@@LordWyatt Indeed friend, indeed !
We need movies about the epic fights of Stilicho, Constantius III, Aetius and Majorian, the last defenders of the west. It would be nice to see that one day :)
Romanism = Satanism = Pure Fascist Evil
@@mika2oo1 That seems a little harsh. The Romans were no angels, but they did create many of the institutional templates that current western institutions are modelled on. Not to mention the language that many contemporary European languages are descended from. Their thirst for empire was not exactly admirable, and many of their practices were cruel. But that hardly makes them unique. Lots of other empires were not much better in that regard. Also, fascism is a modern political concept, and practice. It was not something you would find in antiquity. Though tyranny of different forms certainly was.
@@Maiorianus_Sebastian What if Ricimer was a Kenite.....?
My boy Majorian was trying to install the latest version of Aurelian OS… Someone should have told him about that “being stabbed in the back by your own friends” bug.
Hahhahaa, that's a good one !
Yes indeed, there are really many parallels between Majorian and Aurelian.
If Justinian and Aurelian existed as co-emperors we'd all be speaking latin. 😎
Majorian could have been Restitutor Occidentis (Restorer of the West), but Ricimer was an evil man.
@bastiat i thought a lot of that had to do with Justinian bring jealous over the military successes of Belisarius.
@@MichaelGlitzosjustinian is the reason why Belasarius had his successes. The jealousy is a myth
This channel is a rare gem for those who are lovers of ancient Roman history. I did not know the Romans in 468 attempted one final time to retake Carthage, only to be foiled by a dirty trick. Maybe that's why Belisarius landed further away and chose to overpower the Vandals overland. Very informative video, very well done!
Hello Jonathan, thank you very much, I really appreciate your kind comment.
Yes, the amphibious operation of 468 is absolutely fascinating, I will certainly do a video only on that, and hopefully I will be able to gather lots of interesting information, because the sources are kind of vague on that huge amphibious undertaking.
@@Maiorianus_Sebastian A video on that 468 amphibious operation? I can't wait, I am subscribing right now.
I guess the 410ish collapse is an Anglocentric date then.
The sad thing about the 468 A.D. expedition was that it should have been successful had the Eastern Roman general Basiliscus who was in charge of the mission not blundered. He waited to long to attack Carthage head-on and instead, gave in to Gaiseric's cunning trick of negotiation tactic that made the Eastern naval forces wait for almost a week giving enough time for the Vandals to plan a counter attack. With an overwhelming force compared to the Vandals and a sympathetic local population, a Roman victory would be have been the eventual outcome had Basiliscus acted a lot sooner.
Absolutely
Ricimer is one of those "Ah, but you _have_ heard of me" people of history.
Yeah and like if the Cat is not going to kill you Ricimer can. Even Mulan or Russia won't be able to stop him. Good stuff
@cai6602 Charlemagne's dad is literally exactly like Ricimir. A genius politician who ruled from the shadows. To hate Ricimir is to hate Peppin. It's stupid Roman fanboying
Majorian man.. it’s heart wrenching to think what could have been if Rome had had such a capable leader in a time of such strife
If Majorian managed to restore the empire and wasn't assassinated, the Western empire still probably would've collapsed in the 6 or 700s
@@precariousworlds3029 nah
@@arkhammemery4712 It just wasn't stable, especially with the amount of barbarian invasions. Post-Crisis of the Third Century, the Western Empire's days were always numbered
@@precariousworlds3029 I mean technically it is a probable yes, but it may also just lose North Africa like how the ERE lost Syria and Egypt.
The jealousy inspired by success can be more dangerous than the ridicule of failure...
Indeed, and this is a valuable life lesson, as it can also be applied to our modern time. It still holds true today, as we can see with the ongoing lawsuits by Jeff Who against SpaceX and NASA :)
@@Maiorianus_Sebastian I just found your new channel from "To the Future". Thanks. In high school history this period was given a very short chapter, so sad. Throughout my adult life I have read about the comparison of the US today to the late Western Roman Empire. In my opinion that chapter hasn't been written yet but the actions of "men" can effect what happens. My biggest regret is the many centuries mankind lost during "the dark ages" of possible advancements in learning of all kinds. I look forward to your future teachings of this period.
Thanks for the video, very informative. Majorian is one of the most underrated emperor in Roman history, a forgotten hero. Two centuries earlier, another capable emperor Aurelian was also assassinated, despite saving the empire from total collapse. Ricimer was ineligible for the position for the emperor not only because of his barbarian origin but also because of his Arian faith, which was condemned as a heresy at the Council of Nicaea in 325 AD (many Germanic barbarians followed the Arian faith in contrast to the Nicean-Constantinopolitan Christian faith of the Romans)
Not to mention that he was a sniveling coward. He was fit to be born a woman with the way he manipulated the throne but nooo! He had to grow a dick!
Fascinating! That whole area of 'non-orthodox' sects of proto-Christianity is absorbing. I read that many ended up on the silk roads after being chased out of the empire. One named the Marionites believed in a trinity of Father,Son and Mary!
Even today you get yeeted by christian for beeing an Arian or general non-trinitarian christian.
Interestingly, the Arian church Ricimer built in Rome around 460, still survives till this day. It’s the only Arian church that has been preserved in Rome. Although it’s now a Catholic Church called Sant'Agata dei Goti.
"Heroes often fail"--Gordon Lightfoot
I think its fascinating how Roman history gets so complex and dark towards the end. I have never been able to wrap my mind around the events in the western roman empire - thank you for the video!
It's not just towards the end. The Empire did well for just 200 years, followed by 300 years of various degrees of crap.
Avitus's death was the true end of the Empire. He had the support of the Visigoths, who controlled Spain and Gaul, and could have been counted on to help defeat the Vandals. Then he did away with Marjorian. Ricmer was definitely a fatal final wound the the Western Empire.
Interesting perspective friend, thanks for sharing your thoughts. They are highly welcome !
Visigoth sounds like it could be a really cool aesthetic, or genre of music.
@@YourMomsFavoriteCommenter Western Goths, anyone?
I can see Javier Bardem playing Ricimer.
After Valentinian III murdered Aetius, legend says, his concubine told him "You've cut off your left hand to spite your right!"
I'd be interested in hearing more about Syagrius, the last representative of Roman rule in northern Gaul until Clovis deposed him.
I was unaware Roman Emperors (the stuck-at-court types like Val III at least) had concubines. Yes, I know Constantine the Great's mother Saint Helena was a concubine, but Constantius I campaigned from Italy to York.
Poor Syagrius didn't end well. If memory serves me, I think that Clovis defeated him, annexed his province and then killed him. Not a happy end.
I share your fascination with the late Roman empire of the west! Such an interesting time! After Rome spent centuries trying to keep the barbarians divided and conquered. Those same barbarians would inherent the empire in the form of Frankish kingdoms,Gothic,Lombards and Vandals. Sprinkle in a few Huns here and there! Well done!
Thanks a lot friend, I greatly appreciate your kind words. Yes, this era is incredibly fascinating and hopefully we can explore many more interesting events together :)
someone who hates ricimer as much as me.I love majorian so much. If only he lived. I'm currently doing a majorian campaign in attila
Hello friend ! Yes, let us be united in our hate against Flavius Ricimer. Cursed be his name!
I will certainly make a "what if" Majorian had succeeded in his campaign against the Vandals.
Could Ricimer be a reflection of his own environment? The son of a germanic "barbarian", Ricimer could never be accepted as a pure roman, no matter how fluent he was in latin, or how much he served the empires interests. He was valued for his military skills only, replacable, and forgettable. Ricimer, realizing that he could never hope to advance to the top of roman society or become emperor because of his heritage, decided he might aswell abuse the system to his own advantage. Im not defending Ricimers actions at all, but i think there must have been some forces that nudged him towards to path he took.
Rome, a city-state that expanded beyond its ability to control and never worked out a stable means of succession.
Still they managed to make it work for a very long time. That is truely remarkable.
The Romans never pretended that they had found some magic formula to rule a large empire. Still they did for roughly a millennium. Many states did pretend they had found it, and lasted for a few decades up to a few centuries at most.
That must be the reason why the western Roman Empire only lasted for a mere seven short centuries ...
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An overwhelmingly clear example from the past and a teching lesson for today of how personal ambition goes at the expenses of collectivity. A dynamic that to some degree has always plagued politics, back then as well as today
I usually have only learned about the late republic/early empire when learning of roman history.
Thank you maiorianus for making this series about the longest and most fascinating era of roman history
The Western Roman Empire could have been restored even after the reconquest under Belisarius. The Ostrogoths offered Belisarius the title of the Emperor of the West, but he denied. If Belisarius had ruled over Italy, Africa and southern Spain, he could have consolidated the western empire. And capable successors maybe could have reconquered Gaul and the rest of spain.
I’ve always thought that as well. Having Italy and North Africa under a single leader would have made it less of a backwater and maybe they could have held back the Lombards. The impact of plague at that time can’t be underestimated but having some unity of command in the West, with the Goths incorporated into the army, might have helped them weather the storm.
Belisarius always had limited manpower and small armies, precisely because Justinian feared this could happen. Had he accepted, the empire would simply have sent another general to retake Italy from him, his own armies were too small to offer any serious resistance while the ostrogoths were by then a spent force. Besides, given the empire's history with German mercenaries, he would have likely been stabbed in the back within a few months.
@@Vasilefs_Terranorum Which would explain his rejecting the offer...
I thinks that he ostroghots could be assimileted to the Roman,if wasn't for the religion
@@alessandrogini5283 Ostrogoths were Christian.
I personally believe that Majorian was a much more competent commander than Aetius.
Hello, yes, Majorian is generally a far too underrated general and he deserves a lot more recognition. That's why I named this channel after him, and hopefully we can increase the fame of Majorian, and make him get the recognition that he deserves.
Aetius was a better diplomat forming the coalition against Attila, Majorian was the better field commander. Both were dwarfs next to Flavius Belisarius. ;-)
@@Maiorianus_Sebastian He may be the most underrated Western Emperor now that Aurelian is finally getting his due.
Actually I believe Aetius was of the same mind as Ricimer when it comes to the "empire" though drastically different in action. The power distribution of Aetius and the relation with rome and the barbarians he created looks to me as a total power grap by him to form an independent state in Gaul, that's why he exhiled Majorianus, true patriots had no place in the comitatus of a tyrant. Yes Aetius at least defend the empire, or did he?
Majorian conquered more than Caesar and Pompey Combined during his campaign of reconquest which is quite a feat considering the state of the Roman army was in 458 compared to Caesar's army. Not to mention the increasing strength of the barbarians such as the visigoths, Burgundians and Suebi
Women with time machine: “I’m you’re granddaughter.”
Men with time machine: “Dominus, beware of Ricimer. He is no better than Arminius.”
Aha! So there is a difference between men and women! Thought so!
Ricimer and Arminius did the right thing. Fuck Rome
@@kellysouter4381 wtf
Me with a time machine: *head to the early 1930's, & make bank betting on Phar Lap, at the Melbourne Cup*
I see your a man of culture as well.
.*you're*.
Small correction. While there exists no consensus on the details of the background of the huns, they were certainly not germanic. Probably of turkic or altaic origin, they moved into the pannonian basin in the 4th century and subjugated the gothic tribes in the area. It is possible this even caused the great migration which lead germanic tribes deep into western roman territory.
I have read that the "huns" may have started in west asia, but it seems they included anyome that wanted to join up. germans, iilyrians , or was that The Goths?
Yes, some historians have tried to tie them to the Xiongnu, one of the many mongol tribe that harrassed the northern border of China and led to the construction of the Great Wall.
Poetic. certainly. (like poetry it rhymes)
Possible? Weirder things have happened.
Actual evidence? Spotty at best.
@@LouAlvis those were Germanic allies serving alongside the Huns, but they weren't Huns
Three classes of the late roman empire. The poor, the military, and the super rich. When the empire fell, the only ones that mourned the loss of the empire, were the super rich.
That's a extremely reductive view of the situation
@@stefanhenning40so, do you want to add anything?
That feeling when you are casually looking for more late roman history and baaam you strike AURUM 🎉
Or Garum. Garum makes for fine dishes.
@@athiocordatus9572 i’d rather have the Aurum, it buys anything🙂
Man what can I say, I just discovered your channel. I’m very interested in Roman History. I was in Rome a few years back and also visited Pompeii. Best thing Ive done in my life. Keep on going.
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Hello D K, thank you very much Amicus, i really appreciate it, and welcome to the channel. I am glad for every single fan of roman history here, and together hopefully we can share this amazement and wonder of the glory of Rome. Yes, Rome is wonderful, my wife and me have been there the last time 4 years ago, far too long, it is time again :)
Anyways, thanks for watching and subscribing !
If my boy Valentinian I was still alive by this point, he would not have put up with ANY of Ricimer's bullshit.
This was absolutely well done, really underrated
The Emperor needs to execute generals who were too ambitious.
One of the most vile characters in history, cursed be his name
Hello Trevor, thy words sound like music to my ears :)
Yes indeed, Ricimer was an absolute evil psychopath, who wanted to destroy the empire. We shall curse his name certainly quite a few more times together here on this channel.
@@Maiorianus_Sebastian Until your video I had never known of Ricimer. The damage he caused to humanity. What, 700 years lost.
@Lucas De Araújo Marques Most of Rome's "technology" was stolen from conquered lands. Rome created nothing. Monty Python lied.
@Lucas De Araújo Marques
And China had impressive stuff like gunpowder. Doesn’t mean they were advanced or were going to start the industrial Revolution.
best roman empire video i ever saw, this channel is like a hidden gem, super underrated!
After the splintering of Italy and Gaul by the end of Ricimer’s life, it was already too late. Or earlier, when the federati became more powerful than the roman army. Now we are asking for the likes of Honorious and Valentinian who killed their magister militum similar to the dynamics between the emperor and the praetorians.
Btw, around 3:50 you imply that the Huns were a Germanic tribe. Although it's still unclear, and although there were Germanic tribes among the Huns, I wouldn't say the Huns were Germanic. But there are interesting theories saying that Attila was germanic.
Thank you very much for the clarification. Well we here in Germany think that everyone on the planet is part of a germanic tribe XD. Just kidding. Nice info, thanks !
@@Maiorianus_Sebastian 😂
@@Maiorianus_Sebastian Again, a failure of our education. I had always thought that the "Huns" brought down Rome. I look forward to your future videos to expand on this subject.
Weren't the Huns Turks? They invaded China under Shan Yu and were pushed West and his descendant Atila invaded Rome.
@@shadowthehedgehog3113 Turkic, not turks. Turks, mongols, karluk, manchu, even Japanese are all part of the altaic culture group (Turkic). There is a 99 percent chance that the Huns were turkic. What we don't know is their relation to the avars, or their original identity. They could be turks, kipchaks, avars - we don't know. We also don't know written hunnic language.
Stilicho was a Vandal, Ricimer was a Suebe, Odoaker came from Thuringia. Military matters in Western Rome practically lay in Germanic hands.
Ricimer was just a product of his time. Politics at highest level were a murderous game everywhere; I don't think the "barbarians" needed many lessons.
Neither do I believe the Western Roman Empire would have lasted much longer anyway. If it wasn't for Ricimer, the "next guy" could have finished it.
Anyway, I like the video since I'm very interested in these "dark ages" and will monitor your channel closely. You also seem to have a good grip on Latin pronounciation, which is rare. Not that I have any clue of Latin apart from Asterix.
You are not playing Attila Total War by any chance, are you ? 😁
Cheers from "Aquis Granum".
Salve Amicus and greetings to Aquis Granum ! I reside in the province of Raetia, also in Germania :)
Thank you, and yes, I am fascinated by the transition of late antiquity to the early and I will make many more videos on this topic.
@@Maiorianus_Sebastian Thanks ! I am just about to start "Das Mittelalter"by Hans Delbrück. I was very impressed by "Das Altertum" and "Die Germanen. Given that these are over a 100 years old, the information and theories still fit.
I kind of believe everybody is just a product of their enviroment and we dont really have free will but I guess thats kind of off topic
As mentioned by Jesse, with the logic you bring, everybody is a product of who they are and the environment they are in. With that argument, we can never arrive at any agreement of not just moral systems, but more importantly functioning systems. It supports chaos and anarchy.
What this video illustrates is that history happens because of the actions of individuals. We often characterize history in terms of inevitable impending functions (or disfunctions) of a society without recognizing that history is made by people acting or failing to act. I certainly do not agree that Rome could not have survived the 5th century given it had competent leaders and policies. The Roman Empire had reformed itself numerous times, avoiding collapse from a number of different issues. Roman expansion in the 5th century was an incredible accomplishment, given all that the empire had endured. IMHO, the Western Roman Empire still had the potential to survive for quite some time.
@@raymondrogers3929 Do you think rome could have emerged directly into the industrial age? I often wonder this but I lean towards no.
Just by looking at the thumbnail, I knew this video was about Ricimer... God I hate Ricimer. 14:20 absolutely amazing.
This video reminds me of Tacitus discussing Livia.
Hope your channel grows, i really enjoyed learning about the late roman empire. Which isn't getting covered enough, hope you cover the byzantine empire during the palagoios dynasty as well.
Thanks!
Thanks a lot for your kind donation, I really appreciate it a lot :)
Ricimer thumbnail looks like that half human cheddar man
I really enjoyed this video. Hope your Channel grows 💯
Thanks a lot, I really appreciate it :)
Amazing to hear about the attempted Naval attack on the Vandals. I had no idea the Roman's remained so powerful in the 400s.
I agree, the latter stages of the Roman Empire are its most interesting history. Excellent video!
"Damn you Ricimer, Damn you!" hahahahah I felt your pain.
This is very sad to watch... The fall of Western Roman Empire was the biggest catastrophy in human history IMO
_Laughs sarcastically in World Wars._
What a wonderful video, packed with interesting information that I had no idea of. The graphics are fabulous, too
If I ever find a time machine I'd go back in time to either stop the 4th Crusade, sack of Constantinople or kill Ricimer and help Majorian.
good stuff sebastian i have always admired marcus aurelius thanks for your time and work
Hi Robert and thanks a lot for commenting :)
Marcus Aurelius certainly deserves his own video, he was truly one of the best emperors to ever live, and a virtuous human being of the highest order. His meditations still inspire millions of people today to strive to become better persons.
I learnt about Ricimer from the podcast The History of Rome (THOR) by Mike Duncan. Episode after episode of Ricimer installing emperors, then assassinating the same emperor. Each time taking the life out of a glorious empire struggling to survive, while Ricimer kept making life and death decisions for the empire that were only in the best interests of Ricimer.
Lies. This video is simply lies. Read into it. Ricimir was the Emperor and only racism that held back Stilicho was why he had to use Puppets. Ricimir won more battles to defeat barbarians and protected Rome countless times. He just didn't give tax cuts to the senate which is why they hate him. Majorian messed up guarding a fleet and died for it.
It’s ironic that Ricimer was Frankish. In the end, his people eventually gave rise to Charlemagne, who sought to revive the Roman Empire in the West. And by that point, the Franks were highly Romanized.
@@charlesdeleo4608 more like the Romans were Germanized
I came back to watch this vid, and after doing some thinking on the matter, I agree. Ricimer defended the interests of Italy and the Roman aristocracy. There's no evidence he was planning to backstab Majorian as long as the latter was winning battles. He only turned on Majorian _after_ the latter lost his navy. Maiorianus forgets that his hero's defeat at Carthago Nova in 460 was due to faulty military intelligence and not breaking up his fleet into smaller squadrons to reduce damage. All he had to show for it were shipwrecks and an empty treasury. The Western provinces were too far gone, and the fact that the various kings reasserted independence the minute they heard Majorian was dead, shows how superfluous his "victories" truly were. Ricimer was an opportunist (like Majorian), but unlike his Don Quixote comrade, he realised that preserving Italy was all that could be done. @@rockstar450
Congratulations on your new channel...2 the Past. Very interesting subject and I'm sure will be full of lessons that we can apply to our present world.
"With this character's death, the thread of prophecy is severed. Restore a saved game to restore the weave of fate, or persist in the doomed world you have created."
Hey there! Just have to say, very enjoyable video, great job! Hope your channel grows :)
The Roman Empire was always an Eastern Empire, not a European Empire. The heartland where the wealth and manpower lay was always Asia Minor, Syria, North Africa, and Egypt. It's the cultural bias of Western Civilization which paints and lionizes Rome as the empire of the Western World. Rome in fact could be seen as managing the strategy of a fulcrum between East and West, sucking out enough wealth from the East to keep Rome running and financing the military to keep the populations of the West in check. This is why the Eastern Roman empire survives for a thousand years more and grows incredibly rich, the albatross of the West is no more on its neck.
Fantastic history video - stumbled across by accident - looking forward to watching more - thank you Malorianus
its insane to me how the ancient world was already that much connected to each other like wow. we think like they were simple people back then absolutely not true.
If Majorian were able to see through Ricimer’s character, maybe there would still be hope for a time of healing and slow conquest of the remaining foedorati. Maybe the western empire could be saved or at least could’ve survived a bit more…
Such a good video! Thank you!
Well given how much a fan you are of Majorian, it's obvious that you'd hate Ricimer.
Majorian. The last and Greatest Emperor of Rome. He was turning out to be the savior of late Rome. Like Aurelian was in the crisis of the 3rd century. But the idiot, Ricimer cut him down in the prime of his life. Damn you Ricimer. Damn you....
This is the first channel dedicated to this topic where the narrator can pronounce Latin names correctly. Good effort.
Ricimer wasn't just evil, he was a fool. Had he been loyal to Majorian he'd have been incredibly powerful as the second in command of the restored Western Roman Empire... But he instead wanted to be the king, no matter how much he weakened his own position.
Well, as Julius Caesar himself said; i'd rather be the first man in the smallest village than the second one in Rome
@@Charlz1980tv But Caesar was such a man his name now means "emperor" in multiple languages. Ricimer wasn't.
such good work on your description of history - thank you !
Even though the imperial period ended in the West, a lot of its infrastructure did survive in the Germanic kingdoms and through Christianity. For a lot of people nothing really changed because Diocletion kickstarted feudalism and very few people wanted to fight and die.
I love your passion and conviction! Subscribed!!!! I can’t wait for more!
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Amazing 👌 love the narrations too ❤️
I enjoyed this video a lot, and can't understand the few views! I will watch it again, and you made Maiorianus my hero as well. Strange, watched 3 videos from Sam Vaknin yesterday, the famous narsissist. How long can the West survive, as we made narcissism our new religion, and put these kind of narsopats to rule us?
A trilogy of films on
Stilicho, Honorius and Alaric,
Aetius, Valentinian III and Attila, and
Majorian, Ricimer and Geiseric
would be *fantastic.*
Awsome dude you do great job explaining and touching on the end of the western Roman empire. You do more on it than high school and college teachers do
If you know the Republic, its foundations and intentions, it's not very difficult to understand how and why the "Empire" collapsed. It was never intended to be an "empire". The fact that it became one and it maintained its "imperium" for as long as it did is a testament to the incredible concentration of force that was the Republic and the Virtues and Culture that built it.
I disagree, it was kept alive by people who either die of with a brain hemorrhage trying to make things work or people capable enough to keep Rome alive only to be stabbed in the back. Most great men of Rome died like Serbs, stabbed in the back.
Ah yes the Republic, with its endless civil wars, rampant instability and the very short time it survived. Compare that to the empire which lasted between 27 BCE and 1453 CE, a millennium and a half. The imperial era lasted for significantly longer than the republican and monarchical eras combined, and it was during this period that Rome reached the height of its power.
@@Vasilefs_Terranorum 500 years is definitely not short time, and it went about 400 of those years without a civil war. It was remarkably stable. It was also during the Republic that the empire was built. The imperial era conquests were the shortest lived, and first to go. And the majority of the conquests during the emperors were simply annexations of territory that was already conquered during the Republic and under client status.
And besides all that, the Republic never ended. Having an emperor didn't end the Republic, and it continued to be called the Res Publica or Politeia until the fall of the west, and in the east until the fall of Constantinople.
One time when I was visiting Vindolanda I saw all the curse tablets they had recovered on display in the museum. I immediately thought of Ricimer as the person for whom I would write one if I could.
Love your videos and agreed - this is an incredible period of history still not well understood.
I knew something of the period, but your take on the role of Ricimer in the collapse of Rome is fascinating. Another person to slaughter when I have my time machine (the others include Hitler, a handful of leading nazis and Guillaume le Batard)
Who else has hollywood convinced you you should hate?
@@hoyschelsilversteinberg4521 Are you implying he shouldn't hate Hitler?
@@electricbogaloo Yes, I think you should question these sorts of things. Why is an imagined 6 million worse than 60 million dead in the Soviet Union or in China? Why is ten times the lives not worth as much than jewish life?
@@hoyschelsilversteinberg4521 And you just assume that I can't hate Hitler, Mao and Stalin at the same time? Those two were also shit and I never said they weren't
@@electricbogaloo Yes but why is society obsessed with Hitler over something that is provably false when there is undeniable atrocities committed by Stalin/Mao? There are atrocities committed by Eisenhower even and Truman that no one even bats an eye at yet we're suppose to always vilify Adolf Hitler for something that was proven false in the Ernst Zundel trials of 1985 and 1988.
Your voice cures my insomnia
It’s rare seeing a Germanic that likes Majorian and absolutely despises Ricimer
A good emperor is a good emperor and a traitor is a traitor. So was Flavius Ricimer, not because he was born a "barbarian" but because he, _as a Ronan of high rank,_ not only murdered a capable emperor who had trusted him because they were old friends but also sacked a city which he had vowed to defend.
For his treachery, Ricimer suffers in Tartarus for eternity. There, his soul freezes in the depths of Lake Cocytus, as his transgressions angered the Gods themselves, who punished him ruthlessly, just as he ruthlessly killed all who stood in his way. What power and glory he sought for himself in life, in death he shall be denied for eternity. That is his punishment.
You hate Ricimere almost as if you were there. Majorian didn't think much about being Ricimer's puppet, but then trusted him when he went to meet with him alone, so that was strange
*Never Trust A Barbarian.*
Exhibit A:
majorianus is truly worthy of praise
Avitus was not executed, according to Victor of Tuna his life was spared and he was consecrated Bishop of Placentia. It is the only case of a bishop who was previously emperor.
Thanks for your work. Subscribed.
I first encountered your channel, yesterday. After that. I was hooked. Well-done, sir!
In Serbian language exists a word “Licemer” (pronounced Litsemer), it describes a person that is a hypocrite and/or two faced persona...cheers 🍻
Very interesting channel on a great subject. I look forward to where you take this! Subbed 👍🏽
It's happening in the West right now. If a culture is not in any way invested, or is even diametrically opposed, to the culture they are integrating with then the latter will die without support.
I love your videos. Ricimer’s “Kill List” is hilarious for me, probably not for the deceased emperors. 😂
Ricimer's sin was Envy. He is envious on Majorian's successes
I tend to agree. I also can't see another reason why Ricimer would have acted the way he did.
I am excited for more video’s on this channel because i do not know much about this time period thank you very much
Absolutely beautiful!
Thanks a lot my friend, for dropping by here in this newbie channel :)
Glad you enjoyed the video!
I thoroughly enjoyed this piece of Roman history, of which until now I was totally ignorant. Moreover (apart from a “hiccup” at one point) , it was very well narrated and presented.
Keep it up! Your sub count will surely blow up soon because this is Roman content on par with the best history channels
I love your passion and you have opened my eyes to the heroism innlate Rome
I can't help but feel that any channel named after Majorian will paint a biased picture of Ricimer.
Thanks for the video I really wanted to know about the fall of the Western Empire.
Hello Jochem, well yes, I admit that I am biased against Ricimer. I tried to view him in a more favorable light, but unfortunately we will never know what these people were really thinking. But especially his sack of Rome in 472 AD was pretty nasty. He did many things to hasten the fall of the empire, and after his death, the fate of the empire was de facto sealed.
Attila was active during the same time as many wandering /raaiding Germanic tribes, and probably had some Germanic warriors (among others) under him, but wasn't Germanic. He was a Hun (Central Asian).
Even if Majorian could have restore some sort of the empire, we are talking of a ruined empire alreay, Rome was sacked 2 times, lost all it's values of a milenia, it was a fragmented empire, even if majorian had managed to restore half the territories what would happen after his death? There were no more roman armies, the economy was horrible, barbarians represented 80/90% of the western army, i think he could only save same time nothing more, the West was doomed. I think after the 3th century crisis Rome should have been ruled by the senate again like the republic, with consuls. it worked so well because for someone to get rich in the republic would had to become a consul and go in campaign, i do belive Rome fell because it become ruled by an emperor. The risk of civil wars were far less in the Republic than in the empire.
Great video, I learned a lot.
Unbelievable how one man can make all the difference in the world. What would the world look like today if Ricimer had never been born?
Excellent video! Information I was not aware of. Fascinating that the western empire could have survived after all.
Interesting :) I've never heard about these events.
I liked the 3d animations of cities and the ships. The empire was so beautiful and great.
What an asshole was that Ricimer. I wonder what if Caesar was like that, would he destroy the Rome even sooner.
Hello Vanger, welcome to this little channel here, nice to have you here :)
There is a lot of really good footage on how Rome looked during its peak, it was incredibly beautiful. I am sad every time when I think about how all these great monuments were destroyed and only very few are left intact.
Yes, Ricimer was a complete evil psychopath who wanted to destroy the empire. Indeed, if Caesar was like that, history would look very different. Luckily, there were also many great heroes until the very end of the empire, and we will talk about every single one of them.
Great video
Majorian: Hold my beer, I've got this! The Empire will be restored, Roma Invicta!!! Ricimer: I'm about to end this man's whole career.
Fascinating.
Ricimer was just the enforcer of the senate, which was, unlike in the times of the Principate, a powerful institution during the dominate due to being staffed by leaders of the vast beaurocracy Diocletian created.
Ricimer might not have single handedly destroyed the empire, but it would have gone on a lot longer if he hadn’t been around.
The Empire really needed the huge tax base in the Northern African provinces as well as the critical grain supplies for the city of Rome and the army and navy. Majorian came so close to winning back the Western Empire!
Yes, it is heartbreaking every time that he came so close, and then failed just before the final strike. A real tragedy.