Deriving the Wave Equation

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  • In this video I derive the Wave Equation, one of the most important and powerful partial differential equations. It can be used for a huge variety of other problems in physics and engineering. In the next few lectures, we will solve and analyze this equation. Examples from a guitar string are used to illustrate ideas.
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    0:00 Overview
    2:00 The Wave Equation and Examples
    8:33 History of the Wave Equation
    10:03 Deriving the Wave Equation from F=ma
    25:25 Quick Recap of Derivation
    31:53 The Wave Equation and the Guitar String
    35:08 Conclusions and Next Videos
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  • @CallOFDutyMVP666
    @CallOFDutyMVP666 Рік тому +126

    The fact that I can access this high quality of a lecture for free is astonishing..

    • @afammadudaniel2982
      @afammadudaniel2982 Рік тому +5

      I'm practically blown away!!
      I'm at the phase of research where I'm trying to understand how PDEs are embedded in Machine learning loss function. Viola! Here I am consuming mathematical chocolates!

    • @anishsharma6702
      @anishsharma6702 Рік тому +2

      same , i love this kind of detail approach to concepts , with implementation of human logic and human intuition at grond level.

    • @dennislui2938
      @dennislui2938 Рік тому +5

      Agreed. I always thought Gilbert Strang at MIT is a great math teacher. Steve has proven to be just as good, if not better, than Prof Strang. Kudos to eigensteve 🙏🙏🙏

  • @murillonetoo
    @murillonetoo Рік тому +3

    Great explanation, professor! I'm looking forward to see the upcoming videos!

  • @Joeleo
    @Joeleo Рік тому

    These are awesome Steve, great work.

  • @TNTsundar
    @TNTsundar Рік тому +8

    This is next level lecture. Love your videos. 👏

  • @khanster
    @khanster Рік тому +5

    I'm taking PDE this semester and your PDE playlist has been awesome. Thanks prof.

  • @clairezhao8963
    @clairezhao8963 Рік тому +1

    This video series explains why it's harder and harder to resist binging UA-cam these days, any other series like this? The new videos are literally in sync with my PDE class oh my goat

  • @manirarebajeanpaul9312
    @manirarebajeanpaul9312 6 місяців тому

    Thank you so much Steve, its like reading a very huge book in a short moment.

  • @muhammadkahshan6216
    @muhammadkahshan6216 Рік тому

    Excellent explanation. Crystal clear. Thank you

  • @spsorn5433
    @spsorn5433 11 місяців тому

    Thank you very much for your fantastic lecture and your hard work. I love it.

  • @rushabhyeshwante
    @rushabhyeshwante Рік тому

    I did find it interesting and fun. Thank you for simplifying the concept.

  • @okhan5087
    @okhan5087 Рік тому

    Thank you for this playlist. Your videos are helping me a lot in my PDE class.

  • @hajsh67
    @hajsh67 4 місяці тому

    Awesome intuitive approach to setting up the wave equation from F = ma. Reminds me of my General Physics course when I was reading the Young and Freedman text.

  • @saadhassan9469
    @saadhassan9469 Рік тому

    Beautiful Lecture and Wonderful Lecture series!

  • @greenfoodpower6961
    @greenfoodpower6961 Рік тому

    Excellent explaination! Correct pace.

  • @loadingUserID...
    @loadingUserID... Рік тому

    Excellent and practical video on the topic.

  • @AleeEnt863
    @AleeEnt863 Рік тому

    Love you, Steve!
    Blessed!

  • @barakgavriel1028
    @barakgavriel1028 7 місяців тому

    Amazing video! Thank you 🙏🏻

  • @danialheidar8847
    @danialheidar8847 7 місяців тому +1

    I don't know how to say thank you to making my nightmare to day dream,
    Wish i was your student and learn this things directly in your class

  • @kepe7323
    @kepe7323 Рік тому +4

    Fantastic intro

  • @seanwrfps
    @seanwrfps Рік тому

    Thank you, this was helpful!

  • @sorry4all
    @sorry4all Рік тому

    Woah now that was really satisfying.

  • @Joseph-Lau
    @Joseph-Lau Рік тому

    That’s an interesting lecture that makes me to revisit my knowledge of physics again. The tangent of angle is equal to the Uxx (x,t) is kind of tricky which I need to do some revision.
    Do you have any idea about the speed of the wave if it is a probability wave in quantum physics?

  • @sam78ize
    @sam78ize 2 місяці тому

    these lectures will keep on giving into the future. you are doing a great service.
    some professors should also take your classes. 😂

  • @pain4743
    @pain4743 День тому

    Amazing, Thank you

  • @jakubsebek
    @jakubsebek Рік тому

    Beautiful!

  • @Tom-sp3gy
    @Tom-sp3gy 15 днів тому

    You are the best ever !

  • @robertparrish9014
    @robertparrish9014 Рік тому

    Thank you so much!

  • @miroslavvorechovsky1370
    @miroslavvorechovsky1370 Рік тому +4

    A very nice lecture, thank you! I have a minor comment though regarding the derivation. When considering the force equilibrium of the infinitesimal element, I am afraid the equilibrium in not maintained if the two tangential forces T at the ends are identical. What must be identical to prevent horizontal movement are the horizontal projections of these forces, say “N”. When these horizontal forces are identical, the vertical projections of the tensile forces T, which we can call F, are equal N*tan(theta). And it is the difference between these vertical forces: N*[tan(theta+dtheta)-tan(theta)], which equals the Newton’s inertia forces “m*a”. This is just a minor fix which removes the weak arguments (time 20:20) about sine being roughly equal to tan, which is equal to the angle itself, and cosine being roughly equal to one for small angles theta.

  • @quantum_mechanics253
    @quantum_mechanics253 10 днів тому

    love it!

  • @ernstuzhansky
    @ernstuzhansky 5 місяців тому

    Thank you!

  • @kelvinadimaswijaya9523
    @kelvinadimaswijaya9523 Рік тому

    wow this is walter lewin's level of lecture, thankyou sir

  • @jonludwig8233
    @jonludwig8233 Рік тому

    You mentioned the wave being infinitesimal and the effect on entropy, any clues where I can follow up on that idea?

  • @belatar
    @belatar Рік тому +5

    also i hope you plan to do this all the way to the schrödinger equation :)

    • @klammer75
      @klammer75 Рік тому +1

      That would be epic! Please do sir!🤩🥳🤓

    • @Eigensteve
      @Eigensteve  Рік тому +5

      I’m working up to it. Might take a little while. Navier-Stokes equations will be sooner.

    • @belatar
      @belatar Рік тому +1

      @@Eigensteve 😍😍

  • @ElizabethMuringi
    @ElizabethMuringi 7 місяців тому

    ❤ thanks.
    God bless you ❤️.

  • @andyowen3685
    @andyowen3685 Рік тому +2

    I expect a full concert in the next video

    • @Eigensteve
      @Eigensteve  Рік тому +1

      Haha yeah… I’m not going to quit my day job…

  • @philoso377
    @philoso377 4 місяці тому

    Nice video and presentation.
    Are we talking about mechanical wave or not?

  • @rjaph842
    @rjaph842 Рік тому

    Hi, Steve. Thanks fr the great video. A quiz here, isn't X a function of time?

  • @malikialgeriankabyleswag4200
    @malikialgeriankabyleswag4200 2 місяці тому

    You are a legend

  • @camwhite113
    @camwhite113 3 місяці тому

    Thanks for making this content openly available! It has certainly been extremely helpful while brushing up my memory on these concepts.
    I did have a question:
    Couldn't we skip the sin(theta) ~ tan(theta) step altogether by utilizing the requirement that the x-component of the tension at points x and x+dx must be equal (in opposite directions)? At either point, we have tan(theta) = T_y/T_x. Solving for T_y, we have T_y = T_x*tan(theta). Again, T_x is the same at both x and x+dx (save for the minus sign), so it can be factored out when calculating the net vertical force, F = T_y(x + dx) + T_y(x) = T_x*[tan(theta + dtheta) - tan(theta)].
    Thanks again!

  • @marsgao4084
    @marsgao4084 Рік тому +1

    OMG the guitar is so cool!!

    • @Eigensteve
      @Eigensteve  Рік тому +1

      Thanks!! So much fun to play

  • @anuchita6979
    @anuchita6979 3 місяці тому

    Very good teaching. From thai student

  • @rajinfootonchuriquen
    @rajinfootonchuriquen Рік тому

    From a geometrical standpoint, the laplace equation means: "scalar field without local max and min"; heat equation means: "the change in one variable is proportional to the curvature in another"; and the wave equation means: "the curvature in one variable is proportional to the curvature in another". If you can imagine how the information change, you can easiliy derivide this partial differential equation.

  • @klammer75
    @klammer75 Рік тому +1

    Bravo👏🏼🎓

  • @JoaoLima-pq1hm
    @JoaoLima-pq1hm 5 місяців тому

    Happy 2024, thank you so much for this excellent lecture. 🎉

  • @Tyokok
    @Tyokok Рік тому +1

    You are not only a great professor, but also a great person!!! Great great Thanks and God Bless!!!
    One quick Q: why that "c" is the speed of wave? any derivation reference? Thank you!

    • @sorry4all
      @sorry4all Рік тому

      maybe c for constant?

    • @Tyokok
      @Tyokok Рік тому

      @@sorry4all thanks for reply. not sure if c is constant. no what it is or not, what's the physics meaning of it?

    • @ananthakrishnank3208
      @ananthakrishnank3208 9 місяців тому

      @@Tyokok Dimensional analysis. Tension is just force (Kg .m .s^-2). Linear density (Kg .m^-1). Now when you divide both, the units you are left with is that of speed squared. Clearly the constant is indicative of some speed. I can only see two kinds of it, one along the medium, another is that of string's up-down vibration which decays in the process. But speed of wave stays constant till the end, just like on whipping the long rope, the bump moves with same speed till end. Anyone can correct me.

  • @awsomeguy3291
    @awsomeguy3291 9 місяців тому +1

    First, second, third times watching this: _crickets_
    Fourth time watching this: "YOOO THAT DERIVATION IS SO COOL!"

  • @JonatanEngstrom-kd7it
    @JonatanEngstrom-kd7it 2 місяці тому

    crazy good

  • @liorcohen5833
    @liorcohen5833 3 місяці тому

    What I didn't get the first time I saw this derivation is why the length of the rope is dx (in the context of the mass).
    it's actually:
    sqrt(dx² + dy²) = dx•sqrt(1 + (dy/dx)²) = dx•sqrt(1+(y')²)
    But since we assume small oscillations all nonlinear terms are negligible so ds = dx•sqrt.
    It's similar to us saying cos(θ) = 1 and not 1 + θ²/2! + ....
    Hope this helps someone!

  • @leepatrick1756
    @leepatrick1756 Рік тому

    Thanks! I get it!

  • @ajstube54
    @ajstube54 6 місяців тому

    super clever :)

  • @hamsterpoop
    @hamsterpoop 8 місяців тому

    I have a series of videos on my channel about deriving the wave equation from Walter Lewin at MIT

  • @ananthakrishnank3208
    @ananthakrishnank3208 9 місяців тому

    As for now, I am not convinced on neglecting cosine components of T, saying theta is close to zero.
    Just as I type, maybe I get it. For angles x1 = 0.01 to x2 = 0.02 (tending to x1), we are kind of looking for sin(x2) - sin(x1). From differentiation we know that sin(x2) - sin(x1) = dx * cos (x1). So analogously for cosine components, cos(x2) - cos(x1) = dx * sin(x1) (approximately zero for very small x).
    So, this way, it makes sense to only include the sine components. But now why this is not convincing is, for x = 10.00 to x = 10.01, I cannot justify the neglection of cosine component.
    Ooh. I get it. First of all, when we visualize the movement of a guitar string, we see that it's as if the string just moved a tiny bit up, even when its up it looks still flat. In that case, theta is obviously close to zero. So I should have not even considered x >> 0 case.
    Thanks for the lecture! :)

  • @kilianklaiber6367
    @kilianklaiber6367 9 місяців тому

    If you want to derive the net force on a small segment of the string, then you have to add all of the forces acting on each infinitesimal part, correct? But instead you subtract two forces from each other. This must be the result of the integration. Therefore, I believe that something is missing in this derivation.

    • @johnwesley4713
      @johnwesley4713 6 місяців тому

      That is exactly what he’s doing. He defines a differential unit, x to x+dx, and he assumes that the only forces acting on this section are the tensions of the string of the unit cell either side of this section…then he sums those forces, which since they are acting in opposite directions becomes a difference.

  • @estebanmeneses3107
    @estebanmeneses3107 Рік тому

    Hello, first thank you so much for these amazing videos.
    I am very rusty at math, but could somebody tell me why second order linear ODEs have exponential or sines solutions? I would really appreciate it.

    • @dennisgawera8788
      @dennisgawera8788 Рік тому +1

      Because derivatives of sines and exponents to the base e are also sines and exponents to the base e of the same order. This makes the solutions just combinations of the same sines and exponentials.

    • @estebanmeneses3107
      @estebanmeneses3107 Рік тому

      @@dennisgawera8788 Thank you so much!

  • @GimbertLane
    @GimbertLane Рік тому +1

    I don’t think you ended up explaining why this is considered a hyperbolic differential equation. I would love to understand what types of differential equations are elliptic, parabolic and hyperbolic.

    • @Eigensteve
      @Eigensteve  Рік тому +1

      Good point. I will be making a video on this soon I hope.

  • @jcsjcs2
    @jcsjcs2 Рік тому +1

    I think going the step to set sin(...) = tan(...) is unnecessary.
    You have the force T going to the left at and the same force going to the right at the other end of the segment of the string. You can assume that the "horizontal" component of the force is equal at both ends. Otherwise, the hole segment of string would start to move sideways. Set that force equal to "T" (because of small angles and cos being equal to 1) and the need to argue that sin=tan will disappear. To me that seems a bit tidier and easier to follow.

    • @sorry4all
      @sorry4all Рік тому

      I think it's necessary. tan allows you to change the variable from θ to x.
      And to be more precise (rather than to just call it an approximation,)
      In the limit, sin(θ) = sin(θ)*(tan(θ)/θ) = (sin(θ)/θ)*tanθ = tanθ
      Since
      Lim θ-> 0, sin(θ)/θ = 1
      Lim θ-> 0, tan(θ)/θ = 1

    • @fahrenheit2101
      @fahrenheit2101 6 місяців тому

      i don't see the difference. in either case, you heavily lean on small angles

    • @jcsjcs2
      @jcsjcs2 6 місяців тому

      @@fahrenheit2101 To me that seems a bit tidier and easier to follow. But it assumes that there is no sideways motion of the particles.

  • @damiangames1204
    @damiangames1204 5 місяців тому

    High quality

  • @leepatrick1756
    @leepatrick1756 Рік тому

    Hi. Can someone explain how the limit becomes the second derivative. I would reallt appreciate this, as then i would fully understand. Lee

    • @bramilan
      @bramilan Рік тому

      Look for the definition of a derivative - it's exactly what we have here.

  • @thomasjefferson6225
    @thomasjefferson6225 9 місяців тому

    I'm loving this pde kind of mathematics
    Im sorry, but im not thinking any of this is easy man. This stuff was made by great minds.

  • @user-dj4vf1yw2m
    @user-dj4vf1yw2m 8 місяців тому

    Is it true for big deflections?

  • @muthukamalan.m6316
    @muthukamalan.m6316 Рік тому +1

    ❤️❤️

  • @belatar
    @belatar Рік тому +1

    really great video but currently i struggle at one point: where you let dx ->0
    to me, that would just let the term 1/dx grow infinitely large but instead you „define“ this as Uxx and consider this clear. unfortunately i cant follow that step, so could you please explain that step in some more detail?

    • @press2701
      @press2701 Рік тому +3

      It's a logic point. As dx->0, so does du->0, in the limit du/dx is finite. Go back to fundamental theory of calculus (FTC) for the complete story (which is tedious).

    • @Eigensteve
      @Eigensteve  Рік тому +1

      The answer below is the right idea. We are essentially using the definition of a derivative, which has some assumptions involved.

    • @belatar
      @belatar Рік тому +1

      @@Eigensteve damn, 20 years ago i would have remembered 😭 its all too long ago, but thanks for responding.

  • @tolkienfan1972
    @tolkienfan1972 Рік тому

    LC oscillators in electric circuits too. This is not hyperbole!

  • @USFJUM
    @USFJUM Рік тому +3

    😂I love you.

  • @ravenecho2410
    @ravenecho2410 Рік тому

    @11:30 me too, i have much better math skills (and was able to do the cosine thing now -insulated boundaries, but idk always found PDE hard as self study😢) fingers crossed!

  • @danielvolinski8319
    @danielvolinski8319 Рік тому +1

    What part of this explanation you did not understand when you were a teenager?

    • @Eigensteve
      @Eigensteve  Рік тому

      It just felt very dry and unmotivated. I don’t think I intuitively understood the assumptions and I struggled with the partial derivatives and what they meant physically.

  • @kevinni7214
    @kevinni7214 3 місяці тому

    i love you

  • @vansf3433
    @vansf3433 Рік тому

    nothing new. it looks like for high school levels

  • @lksingh8122
    @lksingh8122 Рік тому

    You still need to learn more mathematical physics, some of your fundamentals are still not clear to you 😢