How Puss in Boots: The Last Wish Crafted Perfect Villains
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- Опубліковано 9 січ 2023
- Puss in Boots The Last Wish is SO GOOD! It's got amazing characters, a great plot, mature themes and messages about Puss in Boots struggling with anxiety, fear, and the thought of death, but one of the best parts of Puss in Boots 2 is that it somehow crafted perfect villains. These villains are Goldilocks and the Three Bears, Big Jack Horner, and Death. I talk here about why Puss in Boots' first encounter with the wolf/death is a perfect scene, and is the best scene in Puss in Boots: The Last Wish, the heartwarming message with Goldilocks and the three bears and the hilarious threat that Jack Horner poses. This video is about how Puss in Boots 2 Crafted Perfect Villains.
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P.S. this video is a re-upload since it originally got blocked worldwide, so sorry about the border.
if this movie doesn't win the oscar we riot
I agree with this statement
Unless it's pinocchio
@@miguelgcgamer9878 personality I rly hope puss in boots wins because I am obsessed with it but the new Pinocchio is also phenomenal so I would be happy if it won aswell :D
Amen my brother. I will be on the streets in the pouring rain crying out to Death himself.
Yes
You don't need a 10 minute video to explain why Jack Horner is a great villain. You just need one line.
"You're not gonna shoot a puppy, are you Jack?"
"Yeah, in the face. Why?"
Yeah and his face while saying those. I was like "okay, psycho."
“whu, woah! what took you so long? idiot.”
The best way to convey jack in D&D terms:
“Murder hobo”
The cherry on top is he was going to shoot a Puppy in the face with a crossbow that shoots Baby Unicorn horns. Like Jesus dude
He has such comically evil American billionaire energy that just puts you on the edge of your seat, waiting for him to get his teeth kicked in. Excellent villain.
The villains cover the 3 types of antagonist, the sympathetic one, the unstoppable force, and pure evil
How tf is Goldie a sympathetic one? The fact that she had a loving family yet still wanted to throw them all away just to make a wish for a human family is selfish
@@adamH.1 she's sympathetic because she felt insecure about being an orphan. her selfishness was rooted in insecurity.
@@adamH.1 I mean, even tho orphans with have a loving family they still wana meet there biological parents
@@adamH.1 That was the whole point. She was selfish out of insecurity, since she clearly felt dislocated in a family of bears when she wasn't a bear. She was so obsessed with that insecurity that she didn't notice that she already had what she wanted; just like most of the characters after the wish gets obsessed over one thing and doesn't see the bigger picture. Puss in Boots himself is an egocentrical guy in the movie.
I didn’t think you could do it, but this man is slobbering up this wolf better than my ex-wife
In the bit where Death starts cursing in Spanish, he actually says “Why the hell did I play with my food?!!??” As funny as it is, it’s actually really terrifying to think about.
Death could have ended Puss in a instant at their first encounter with each other. But he didn’t.
And not because Puss successfully got away, but because Death simply wanted to have some fun.
He decided to "play with his own food" when he decided to personally end Puss' last life, and started the chase, instead of waiting for him to frivolously lose it, like he did with the first 8. He wanted him to be afraid, not to die in an instant after having mocked Death for all of his lives.
In the end, his "playing" made Puss worthy of his legend. Keeping on fighting, he would have won but, being the cat able to fight back, the legend would have grown even more.
So he was satisfied, because Puss couldn't "laugh in front of death" any more, but frustrated, because he wasn't afraid either.
The irony of the guy that hates cats "playing with his food", which is such a cat behavior
Just because you’re the inevitable end of all things doesn’t mean you can’t have fun
@@bengilhooly3616 I mean, i don't think he does that every time, so he was having fun being in a body
I like how the only comedic scene with death comes after he’s defeated in an unconventional way
I think it's genius how they made Jack and Goldie be comical villains so Lobo could keep the threatening edge to him. It's a nice balance, a hilarious pure evil villain, a funny but secretly emotional antagonist and then a serious and scary antagonist. And it is certainly a nice contrast with the rest of the villains in the entire franchise, who all tend to be comical even when they have their threatening moments
Death isnt really a villain tho hes just a small antagonist thats in his way so he can finally learn an important lesson
@@SunnyOSunshine In a narrative structure sense he is still consìdered a villain
@@yungjose3369 the word is antagonist
@@yungjose3369not a villain he was there just to teach Puss a Life lesson on why he should value life and to not joke around with death because eventually death will come after you and there is no stopping it
When Puss realized this the wolf knew he change so he says his goodbye and just basically disappear out of thin air
He was the only enemy that made Puss scared
@@SunnyOSunshine Thank you! I'm not the only one who hates people saying that an antagonist automatically makes them a villain. That's not how villains work; and here's why:
Antagonist: Someone who opposes the Protagonists' point of view, but does not commit heinous crimes to prove a point.
Villain: Someone who is irredeemable and wants the hero dead so he can continue with his crime spree.
By this definition, Jack is the only one in this movie who's a straight-up villain, and someone even compared his backstory to a Doofenshmirtz story about how Doof lost a contest to a Baking Soda Volcano (Jack's story even has Pinocchio being the one grabbing everyone's attention, similar to a Pinocchio lookalike appearing in Doof's story).
But yeah, Death is doing his job as a reaper of souls, and doing your job as part of nature doesn't automatically make you a villain.
Jack Horner, who's successful at selling pies, stole magical items that don't belong to him, and wants to rule the entire earth with magic; his destructive actions that lead to torture, with such disregards to people who support him, makes him evil, and therefore is a villain.
Also, a correction: Death never _says_ he's a bounty hunter. Puss saw the poster and assumed that all on his own.
You just reminded me of his introduction at the bar. Its supposed to be a parody movie twisting fairy tales and nursery rhymes around but wow that bar scene legitemaly gave me chills.
He just pulls out a wanted poster saying "I'm a huge fan, can i have a autograph?"
I thought this would be like shrek 4 with the tricky treaty which would make puss just give away something.
But nope he just pulls out the wanted poster and pointed at the words "dead"
Not only is that amazing foreshadowing but it's single handedly the best way to introduce what type of villain the wolf was.
@@lollllolll. Yep. "No tricks, no deals. I am here to fucking kill you."
He just never denied it either, probably to let Puss get a hint on his own that he's much more.
@@FezFindie Well in a way Death is a bounty hunter.
The bounty is just not money, but instead the wanted person. And he has a poster for everyone
If you think about it Death is the ultimate Bounty Hunter.
I just LOVE how well Death is written.
Like, he's seriously annoyed by Puss' arrogance, and wants to put him in his place, and yet, when Puss becomes humble and changes himself, *death itself* shows humility, and puts his vengeance aside, content knowing that Puss grew in personality from all of this.
Death itself, being capable of humility is just insane and amazing to me
No. Death is death. There is still no humility in it. It only wanted to kill him because of his arrogance. It enjoys killing arrogant ones that think they are immortal
Part of it is that Death knows he'll eventually win anyways. Puss will inevitably lose to entropy. Entropy always wins. So Death can bide his time, there's no rush.
He was trying to kill Puss over not valuing life, and stuck to his morals in the end.
Professionals have standarts
He has a sense of honor, as does Puss In Boots. They are worthy antagonists.
One details that should not be ignored is that Death uses Sickles, which were historically used for yanking riders off of their horses in battle. Meaning, Death is literally there to knock Puss off of his high horse, which he succeeds in doing.
I see, so this is why Velma had to exist. The Universe needed to balance out the perfection that is this movie.
It all makes sense now
lmao great comment
While it's disappointing that Disney have drifted away from giving us memorable baddies, it's nice to know that studios like Dreamworks are more than willing to pick up the slack 😊
💯
DreamWorks always been on top tbh
@@ajv1437 Didn't Dreamworks make Shark Tale?
@@Doncroft1 yeah the greatest movie ever made
Those twist villains that Disney has been shoving down our throats for over a decade are not working.
John Mulaney himself confirmed that even if Jack Horner got his wish, it wouldn't have been enough to make him happy, because no one who craves everything can ever be happy. So not only is he a perfect funny villain, he also works as a perfect thematic foil to the movie's message: to make your happiness in what little time you have. I have no problem with the movie making him the final boss after Death because of this.
There's a word in philosophy for that - it's called pleonexia. Jack Horner is a perfect tirant.
The cup Jack chose to fill has no bottom.
It also had to be Jack defeated last because of Puss's arc. If the last wish was destroyed before the fight with death he would be fighting because he was resigned to this being his last life, not because he accepted it. It wouldn't be as good.
Oogway said it best
"The more you take, the less you'll have"
There is a connection between death and arrogance in the movie. Both Puss and Jack are selfish characters, but Puss becomes more humble by the end of the story. Puss lost his 8 lives due to foolish and risky actions caused by his arrogance. Jack Horner meets his demise by being so fixated on taking the map and making his wish at the expense of everyone else. If Puss remained selfish by the end of the film, his end would have been bad by taking Jack's fate into consideration. After all, Death says to Puss "You're RUINING this for me!! I came here for an arrogant little legend who thought he was immortal... But I don't see him anymore...".
It makes perfect sense that Jack would have been dissatisfied with his wish. Jack Horner is an arrogant and insecure character, so he obviously wouldn't be content with his wish, like Puss would have been if he wished for 9 more lives as he would still be afraid of Death. After all, Jack's desire to get his wish, like all the other characters', came from a feeling of insecurity, of lacking something in their lives. Jack felt that magic would help him be equal to Pinnochio, the magic puppet and his business rival.
I have seen many commentators describe Death as a teacher (even though he plays this role unwillingly), which makes sense but he isn't the only one. Death was the one who changed Puss' perspective on life and made him less arrogant. The other teacher being Jack's "Conscience" (who reminded me ironically of Jiminy Cricket), who tries to help him change his character for the better but to no avail.
In the film, happiness is associated with humility, love, honesty, and gratitude and those who have those virtues cannot be afraid of Death.
Jack is the Villain
Goldilocks is an anti villian turned hero
Death is an Antagonist
Very different roles which was played very well.
TY for the correction
To be more precise, Goldilocks is an anti-villain turned hero. Anti-heroes have dubious moralities but at the end of the day they are one of the good guys, while anti-villains are characters with heroic goals/motives/virtues but at the end of the day they are/were one of the bad guys
@@ericregis3912 Goldis certainly not an anti-villain either. She wanted to get a new family, that's not really a heroic motivation.
@@ghidorah4695 No, but her virtues are. She care about others much more than you would expect of a villain
Death is more of a force of nature personified than anything else
Also, Death might be an antagonist in this, but another way to call him is the inevitable. Death is inevitable, and puss mocking him, made him want to show puss why you don't mock something as inevitable as death itself.
One detail that I love is that when the wolf is walking away for the final time, his whistle has changed key. As such the whistle no longer sounds eerie and terrifying, but sounds more peaceful and positive.
Minor key?!
@@Imperials3nate whoops
@@haraldemerson7496 Sorry, but there's something called Mort Theory which this film has canonised, and a minor patten will him it is the reoccurring G minor key.
Yeah. goes from g major to a major
I also liked the little nod to Puss having wasted his lives when they first meet - he had 8 empty glasses of cream and was eagerly emptying the ninth and last one. I thought that was a very clever little factoid.
I heard people say death should've had more screen time but actually the amount was perfect because we didn't know when to expect him and it worked so well
Same, I kept thinking "Death could show up at any moment..."
There were only like 5 scenes with death, he was on screen for maybe 15 minutes all together. This shows how great of a character he is, that in those 15 minutes how much of an impact he had on the audience.
Did you know that when Puss was fighting the Giant, in the background of the crowd wave you can see Death watching.
He wasn't there, but he made himself such a strong presence it seemed like he was. Just in the background watching, like us.
@@supermellow1x265 Nah, Utahraptor’s right. In the top right-hand corner of the screen during the shot of the crowd in the giant fight, Death can be seen lurking in an alleyway.
@@cloud9979 I meant throughout the movie, he isn't on screen but ever present.
@@utahraptor700 yeah
Just narrowing the scope here, the wolf's "coin over eyes" mixed with "I see you" gesture, interrupting Puss's brief return to revelry and careless abandon is genuinely one of the most badass villain moments in film history.
for real, that scene hadme actually gasp watching it.
Same, it was so perfectly on-the-nose and haunting
I might be mistaken, and it might not have been on purpose, but putting coins with the dead was common in Ancient Greece, as payment for Charon the Ferryman.
He is saying "I'm coming to collect"
@@Estmaraver That was what I figured! I'm pretty sure that's what they were going for.
@@Overlijden1995 Just double checked on this and indeed, Greeks used to place Charon's obol on the mouth, but some Jewish burial practices did place the coins over the eyes as shown in the movie.
When it comes to personifying death it's easy to not do it right, but for this movie, they nailed hands down.
Yep especially since they made him scary enough that he can send a chill down your spine by simply whistling
Nice profile picture
@@WitherHuntress complementing yourself there
Yeah the thing is in almost every interpretation or personification of death is treated like some joke or something u can “beat”. Like I’m the marvel universe with the female death having the hots for Deadpool and every grim reaper portrayed in a non edgy setting. But Lobo, there is no joking with him there is no beating him, he is death incarnate he makes the jokes he’s not one of them. It’s just so nice to see a villain or antagonist or whatever u prefer be taken seriously! Like at all times he’s never been anyone then a man on a mission
@@Trill-Is-Real I mean for Marvel it makes sense since Marvel is one of the most powerful verses in fiction. Even something like Death is only mid-tier in Marvel.
Jack Horner is just magical Nicocado Avocado, and you can't change my mind
One kid literally screamed, "That's Nikocado Avocado!" when Big Jack appeared.
😂😂😂
nahhh 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Bruh
Nah don't do my man Jack dirty like that
someone should make an edit that just replaces all of his lines with nikocado avocado
Also it was mentioned puss in boots was never touched by a blade so that scene was the first time he lost a sword/melee battle and got cut.
The wolf is genuinely terrifying. A hooded dual sickle wielding murdering hunter. The fact that no one has escaped him just adds to that. Just hearing him whistling is enough to make someone have a panic attack. If this isn’t the most dread inducing Dreamworks character ever than I don’t know what is.
It’s truly beautiful isn’t it
Imagine the fear in your eyes as death would approach you. His whistle is perfect. I have psychosis and want that kind of fear before I die. Or I want to be the one to cause it. Nothing makes me happier.
Would you agree?
I want to have a knife left in me by somebody else, but it doesn’t happen, I want to feel adrenaline like that.
Love that you said "fact" since him stating that no one ever having escaped him is not mere badarse boast: He merely stated a Fact~
@@flamingo3519 you're trying too hard while understanding too little. source: have had plenty of psychotic episodes
@@uncroppedsoop I do this a lot sorry
I love the little detail of when the crystal is about to break at 6:01 around Deaths face, it cracks in the shape of a skull just barely before it shatters. Now THAT is a attention to detail
i noticed that while watching in the cinema and nearly hit my own leg out of sheer excitement
I love Death's pettiness as well. He knows Puss isn't dead yet but doesn't care because of the previous 8 times he's been cheated.
This movie is a masterpiece, and it was all thanks to these 3 villains
Don’t forget Perrito. We all thought he will be an annoying menace but he really came in to become the complete opposite
@@aqua2poweros699 Perrito was kind of annoying tho
Don't make boundaries bro
@@adamH.1 Agree to disagree.
@@adamH.1 He’s annoying in the way that he’s relentless with his happiness, compared to the moody personas of everyone else.
I really love how the three villains encapsulate the 3 main types of villains
Goldie is a redeemable villain
Jack is evil for evil's sake
Death is a force of nature personified
One thing I adore is that they show actual blood in this movie, they showed actual death, fear, everything that isn’t in a kid’s movie anymore these days since they treat children like walking toddlers nowadays
One of the things I love to mention that I haven’t see anyone else mention is a detail during the movie that further pushes puss’s arc and anxiety. In the beginning during his fight with the giant he is extremely care free and agile and actively fighting him. But after his encounter with Lobo through ALL the other fights he no longer is actively fighting. He’s much more apprehensive throughout the fights and pretty much the most he does is dodge. This is one way the movie shows how much puss’s anxiety is effecting him without even telling us!! Also I just wanna point out the AMAZING anxiety rep in this movie. As someone who has had panic attacks and has even hyperventilated because of it before this movie is just *mwa* chefs kiss. Seeing one of my favorite movie characters (Puss) have a full out anxiety attack nearly brought me to tears. Almost EVERYTHING in this movie not even just Puss’s arc got me emotional (besides of course the funny bits which were hilarious) 100/10 movie it is my current hyper-fixation :)
exactlyyyyy
@@TheAnimationologist Am I the only one who's drooling at the fact that DEATH is the villain in a DREAMWORKS movie?
@@JETS5 That's not what I'm talking about. What if I told you that not only have we seen Death before, but that he was the most unassuming and goofy character in the movie he was in; a movie that didn't even look like a Shrek film?!
@@TheAnimationologistimagine Death as a MCU villain
He was in the background when he was running across the roof watching him die
I absolutely love this video and how Death is depicted here.
Here's another thing to point out: During the climax, after Puss and Death stare each other down, the phrase Death shouts in Spanish is "Why the hell did I have to go and play with my food?"
He wasn't *trying* to teach Puss a lesson, or waiting for him to change or come to some epiphany. He was literally toying with him and took too long doing it...meaning there was no fun left in it for him - and whatever "code" Death has, he adheres to by letting Puss live. It wasn't a "gotcha" moment.
That's another aspect that just makes him such a perfect antagonist.
Yeah. This is why I'll never understand the sentiment that Death wasn't being cruel or malicious. He reveled in seeing Puss' life flash before his eyes. He purposefully tortured him to the point of having panic attacks. He hunted Puss while he was still alive, despite openly acknowledging that it was against the rules.
Death is NOT a good guy, but he's he's also not pure evil. He was just being petty because Puss spent so long taking his lives for granted.
What I love about how DreamWorks handled Death was that they promoted the character as the Big Bad Wolf. Literally, most other films would have their secret villain revealed about who they are in trailers and promotions, but they hid this well and barely showed him in the advertisements.
Amd considering dreamworks' previous film was also about a big bad wolf(and also done well), it's no surprise its audience would imagine it that way.
It's seriously impressive how they managed to fit 3 villain archetypes into one film and have it work in just the right way! Jack Horner is a typical villain who's shamelessly evil, knows it and just doesn't care, Goldie and the bears are sympathetic redeemable/redeemed villains, and Death is a scary and intimidating villain who is heavily tied to the protagonists character arc.
The one thing I noticed about this film compared to the first puss in boots is that moment when Humpty Dumpty says he was always there and you double-check the film and find that he wasn't (Kind of disappointing), however Death was in the crowd when Puss was fighting the Giant... he really was always there.
where is he, time-frame?
@@TheAnimationologist He is at the back of the crowd when they do the wave. Don't know the exact time stamp, but he is standing in a corridor just behind the main body of the crowd. Blink and you miss it, but it is a wonderfully sinister easter egg.
@@the_tactician9858 neat! Still can't find it though, did he appear before the giant monster attacked or after?
@@TheAnimationologist He appears during the fight, iirc. The crowd is standing and cheering in the streets. I have not seen the whole movie, so I cannot say for sure when it happens. I will add however that Death is stashed away in the upper left corner during this scene, and you really need to slow down the frames to see him, he only is visible for a second or so.
@@TheAnimationologist After the giant throws puss through a building, puss drinks coffee and then runs back out to fight. The crowd cheers. Death is standing behind the cheering crowd at the end of an alleyway.
for me what makes these guys so good is their simplicity. even goldylock is simple and out of all of them their not the simplalist in the whole cast. yet in her case its about the lot life gave her and finding her own way with her found family.
jack is just evil and he revils in it. he likes it and is just having a weird form of fun. no secret message no nothing. he just likes being evil because why not
death on the otherhand is so good because well its death, straight up. you dont beat death you except it as its an inevitability. the thing is with this death he is both the simplest and complex character their because hes still fallowing his unbreakable nature. hes the lawful neutral and true gray agragor (creationist/representation god) that he should be. yet right now hes playing with his food. were seeing something that usually only happens in end time story's happen for something so trivial. hes being chaotic neutral and an active participant in reality all because the loophole of 9 lives annoys him. he dosnt need to do anything to do his job, you come to him, not him to you. in otherwords death is literly just their to scare the fuck out of puss. their is no reason for him to do that, yet at the same time even death needs fun now and again, so why not
Actually Death seems more genuinely pissed that he's been arrogant and wasteful of his lives. And that he "laughs in the face of Death" Having so many lives yet he valued none of them had insulted Death.
@@CrowbornChaos correct, thats why he even came down to begin with.
The fun part for him comes in with how he dos the kill. If he really wanted to kill puss he would have probably just gave him a hart attack and been done with it.
But where’s the fun in that
Death is an incredible Red Herring, I thought cuz of the trailers is just gonna be another typical Edge-Lord Bounty hunter, but I am very happy to have been wrong, so very wrong.
Deaths design is Subtle and brilliant and is part of what made me think they would be an Edge Lord then you learn who they actually are and you connect the dots, they are a Pale figure clade in a Black cloak, their weapons are a pair of multimoded Sickles aka Mini Scythes, and the only colour they have (save for the pale pink tongue but u rarely see it and it would have been too strange if it was black or something ) are the Glowing Blood Red Eyes that make them stand out more and drawing your eyes to them.
Also most folks would expect Death to be a human skeleton or a shadow, this is also in the Shrek universe so they could be just any one of a number if Evil Wolf Characters and the designers leaned into that expectation and subverted expectation in the best way with a simple change from a skeleton to a wolf.
Dream works producer: I want death/grim reaper in this film and make him terrifying as fuck
Animators: K boss
Dream works producer: Wait this is the shrek franchise. Make him unique but still make him scary as in no haha dumb jokes about this character
The furry: Can he be a furry
Dream works producer: I dont see why no
I think its because in bulgaria death is represented as a wolf
Your opinion is invalid after you said “Edgelord”
@@piglin469 I miss the days when we could talk about anthropomorphic animal characters and no one brought up the furrys.
@@spectralassassin6030 yeah same but I wanted to be comdedy genius
gotta say
even after getting spoiled death's entire character he STILL is terrifying and unsettling and gave me chills and I think that's a testament to his character writing
I got spoiled on Death as well, but that did nothing to diminish how terrifying he was when I finally saw the movie.
One more thing to note is that I love how Jack Horner’s henchmen death was meant to tense up the situation where main characters could die at anytime in the journey.
That one scene where he puts the coins over his eyes is such an epic move.
A whistle, a stare and a pair of coins over his eyes and it’s enough to terrify you.
No words needed this time.
Foreshadowing his identity, the cultural associations with the action and just how intimidating it is as a death threat.
At the same time it’s also a tossup between whether he IS Death or just embodies it as a character up until the Cave of Lost Souls.
When he spells it out in no uncertain terms and seals just how REAL he is.
His capabilities are set up already but his sudden and inexplicable presence coupled with his implacable hounding (pardon the pun) through the story set up how unstoppable he really is.
It’s more than he can take you easily, he can FIND you.
And yet he’s not all cruel or evil.
He’s appalled that someone so blessed is so flippant with his abundant gifts that he’d waste them so carelessly.
And really of all the moral lessons present in the story this one is the most impactful and universal to all of us.
You’ve only got the one life, Death will take it one day so appreciate it, don’t take it for granted.
Also there’s an interesting interpretation.
When he sees that Puss has changed and grown as a person, not the person that he intended to hunt he lets him go.
Because that man is dead, metaphorically speaking.
In a roundabout way, he still got his quarry.
Also Jack Horner another evil bugger who doesn’t appreciate life dies shortly after so maybe he didn’t leave so empty handed.
After rewatching the movie the part where Death appears, I noticed a foreshadowing to his annoyance at Puss' laughing in the face of the death line. After Death asks for an autograph and asks Puss' to write on the DEAD part of wanted poster, he subtly scratches his nail on the DEAD part when Puss declared that he laughs on the face of Death. Just an awesome little detail that I found! Not sure if the writers or animators intended that though!
Every single frame of motion is always intended by animators! There are no accidents like that. Good catch :)
I love how in this movie they show multiple antagonists serve similar roles, yet be completely different in their motivation. You have Jack, who is an antagonist for the betterment of himself, you have Goldie and the Bears for the betterment of the family, and you have Death, who is an antagonist, for the betterment of the main character.
Jack feels as if he is to represent selfishness and greed
Goldie and the Bears feel as if to represent unity through bonds, even if they are strained at times
and Death feels as if he is to represent the consequences of living a life or lives with disregard or disrespect to the world around you.
Death teaches Puss how to live his life with respect of life, and how to move past his legend and his pompousness. He teaches Puss how to live with unity in his life, and to rethink about what is really important in life.
Small detail I love about death's introduction,
You don't see him walk up, puss looks away from the mirror, camera pans away, then back and he's just there.
I really love the fact that Goldilocks and Jack Horner has the same arcs that goes opposite directions. Both started greedy, but Jack Horner is blinded more and more by greed and selfishness up to the point that he doesn't even care about his henchmen anymore, while Goldilocks treats the bears awfully like Jack Horner but slowly and surely realizes that the family that she wanted all along was there and stars being grateful of what she has. Fitting too, Jack Horner is technically a greedy capitalistic billionaire while Goldilocks is technically a homeless kid led to crime. They both contrast against each other it's actually amazing.
There's one other contrast between the two characters. Jack Horner never got his hands on the map prior to the Final Battle. As such, throughout the entire journey through the Dark Forest, the Forest never changes into something based off of his subconscious. Because of this, every character that got to touch a map learned something about themselves and each other.
Perrito: At peace with himself in spite the severe trauma he's endured in the past.
Puss: Full of himself, yet at the same time overcome by chronic anxiety.
Kitty: Depressed and jaded.
Goldilocks: Desires a family of her own, in spite already having one.
We never really get a glimpse into Jack Horner's inner workings like we had with the other characters. Ergo, he's the only one who never takes the time to be introspective and think about the things he needs to do in order to achieve the things he actually wants.
@@REALmikegordan it's very interesting, because in a way, it is kind of like in the Kung Fu Panda with the empty scroll scene at the end of the movie
@@aloe7794 Another contrast: Jack Horner never sees Death at the end of the movie. Not as interesting as Jack never getting the map, but there may be something there still.
As a brazilian, I'm so happy seeing our actor Wagner Moura being the voice of the Wolf (Death).
He deservers more roles like this.
Another thing that makes Death so cool is that in the beginning, puss said he has never been touched by the blade. Minutes later, it zooms in on death doing just that.
“It’s later revealed that the wolf is in fact Deyth”
-The Animationologisit
you spelt my name rong
Whalt the hegl you're all talking about. I couldn't understand anythinghiting
I've noticed a plot line that usually makes really good movies. A race between many people trying to get to something before the others. Puss in boots 2, Dead Man's Chest, Infinity war
I had seen this movie and I heavily agree with how many people have said Death is the best "villain" I say villain with quotations because he isn't necessarily a villain like our hilarious fun Big Jack Horner is. Death is the Grim Reaper, he can never be defeated and no one can outrun him forever, he has his job to do which is to guide the deceased into the afterlife to be at peace. In the end death comes for all living things human and animal. I love how he basically is the main catalyst for Puss becoming a better character and learning to cherish life. Puss starting off as cocky and arrogant not cherishing his life and living his past 8 so recklessly but changes to be live a better life once he sees his lives flash before his eyes. The feeling of fear Puss does is definitely one of the most relatable to how we feel when it comes to Death, we don't want to think about such a topic because its very scary, we truly don't know what happens to us after we die and we don't know what death is like until we are standing at the gates of it. It's the unknown about what happens after death that fills us with fear which is what Puss felt when the Grim Reaper was hunting him down. But Death also serves as the message for one to cherish their life and those around them. Death helped Puss grow from arrogant to understanding that in the end, he is mortal and when he comes face to face with Death. He accepts that his time in the world will come to an end but only this time, he will make the most of it and learn to enjoy it before that final chapter of his life comes and reaches its end.
I wouldn't consider Goldi and her bear family as ' villains ' but more as sympathetic antagonists. I loved them. And when there was that emotional moment near the end between the four of them, I nearly cried. It was amazingly well crafted. Even Puss and the gang left on good terms with the bear family.
Death/Lobo is more of an honourable antagonist whose purpose is very understandable to me. He is a force of nature.
But yes, everyone was handled perfectly.
i will not take humpty dumpty slander in this household
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too bad but like everyone hates him
@@alexanderson2502 he redeemed himself at the end though
I wouldn't call Death a villain. He is antagonist, while being hostile to the main character - but he's not particularly a bad guy. Can nature be a villain? No
He tried to kill puss early
@@kingz4275 I'm pretty sure Death was trying to teach him a lesson. That will expains why Death was toying with him, instead of just killing him instantly.
@@olegkupran5284 Death very much wanted Puss dead. Because Puss was an arrogant jerk that had absolutely no respect for life or death across 8 lives he merely wanted to savor that one kill in particular. Though drawing things out did have the unintended side effect of making Puss actually rethink his stance on life and death. The Spanish tirade Death had at the end translates into something like "Why do I always play with my food?!". He was actually angry at himself for getting so greedy with the hunt that the prey he had in the end was no longer the one he wanted to kill. Death still somewhat counts as a villain because he deliberately wanted to end a life prematurely out of personal spite rather than follow the rules. He may represent a force of nature but he is still very much an anthropomorphized version of one with his own personality and pet-peeves.
i wouldn't say villains have to be bad guys, instead i'd say villains are an antagonist on steroids that also happens to be the main threat throughout the movie or series or season or some other shit which im too lazy to look up so i do believe death is a villain, but then again, dictionary definitions can vary, some say villains *are* evil and some say they just have to be threatening and oppose the hero so i can't really be sure.
Can nature be a Villian? Only in a Hollywood movie and sometimes a Roland Emmerich movie. Eg: Into The Storm, San Andreas, Geostorm, Dante's Peak, Volcano, Twister, Day after Tomorrow and Pompeii 😂
Who woulda thought that a frickin' Puss N Boots SEQUEL being the all-time best film of the year?!? Seriously, who could have seen this extreme underdog kicking the ass of every other film in every aspect? The animations, the story, the heros/villains, the underlying theme, the ability to make me bawl my eyes out, the fact that this is a KIDS film and yet the story of Puss coming to the realization that he's got 1 life left and what that truly means...it's fucking beautiful. When Death tells Puss to pick up his sword, I felt the dread and devastation then when Puss tells Death to pick up his weapon in the end, I felt the triumphant joy and so many emotions, it's insane DreamWorks was able to convey what they did. It makes me rethink about what other underdog sequels are out there, unwatched due to the dreaded sequel label.
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I loved the Wolf's whole shtick. The first time I saw this movie in theaters, his eerie whistling and the silence that fell all around when he entered a scene set my heart racing. Not to mention his character design was spot on. The way his eyes reddened and widened, the way his sickles spun out of his cloak, the way he said, perfectly, "Lives flashing before your eyes?" and we saw flashbacks of Puss's life. Everything about him screamed unstoppable death.
Awesome.
I figured out the wolf was death itself when he wasn't on the map in the dark forest even though he was there, cool detail, great villain!
I would say that Goldie and the 3 bears were antiheroes rather than villains, but I still agree with this. this movie is perfect, Lobo aka Death was pretty terrifying, Jack was a wonderful straight up evil villain. the themes were dark asf, I didn't expect all of this from puss in boots
Eeeeh, they're still self serving criminals. There goals weren't exactly "heroic", but also not callously evil. They're sympathetic antivillains.
In the end, I'd probably consider them antiheroes though (even if they're still criminals, but realized they had a family in eachother).
Death was fully ready to kill Puss, the only reason he lets Puss go is because there is no fun in hunting someone who isnt afraid. He was playing with his food, and the fun is gone
Also he wasn't there to collect Puss last life, he was there to STEAL it. It wasn't a job this time, it was a HUNT
It really reminded me of Dead Man’s Chest where they are fighting on the Beach with conflicting personalities & all own motifs which make sense
What's incredible about the concept of Wolf, is he doesn't need a backstory, he doesn't need a reason to explain why he's so good at what he does, or why he's the most feared character anyone could face. He doesn't need that, because he is death, and everyone knows what death is, young or old, rich or poor, intelligent or stupid, everyone faces it, and its inevitable, its something to can't outrun forever, and the only thing you can do is try to live your life to its best and hope for a good death yourself how you want it.
Exactly
The immersion of this movie is great, I have never felt sympathetic towards any hero, but every time I saw Death I came back to the very fast heartbeat and the once very brave Cat have a panic attack.
The subtle details like the heartbeat and when we see Death for the first time instilling in us the whistle, and the panic that settles in with the amazing score in background really makes this a blood rushing movie.
what I appreciate about the villains of this movie is that there is a Villain for everyone's needs
if you want a villain whose complex and joins the heroes in the end You have Goldilocks and the Three Bears.
If you want a Villian whose pure evil and loves being that way with no redemption- You Have Big Jack Horner
If you want a Villain whose not really evil but a force of Nature who while he loves his job well respect the opponent for finally understanding what they have- You Have Death
So in a way that's why every villain works so well. Every Fan gets what they want
What really gets me is that this is in the SHREK universe.
Each time i heard the whistle, i had literal chills.
The trick is in the 'race for the artifact' structure. That's one of the very few structures that balances many villains somewhat naturally
Death is also scary because he manages to cut Puss with his sickle after the whole intro song that states that Puss has never been touched by a blade, and it proves to him that he is not as invincible as he thinks he is.
Goldie has character development, is more of a rival than a "villain"
Death is a force of nature. It's kind of his duty.
Big jack Horner is an asshole.
perfecto!
Goldie is kinda an anti hero actually
What I loved the most about Death is that he was hunting Puss because Puss hadn't valued any of his past lives. Most beings get only one life, but cats get nine, and Puss squandered his. That's what upset Death. And after Puss realized this life was the life he wanted to live it, he earned Death's respect
I wouldn't classify Death/Wolf and Goldilocks and the 3 bears as villains, antagonists yes, but Jack Horner is the only villain.
The best part is his final line. Meaning he'll be back, always
What Death is saying here is "Why the hell I tried to play with my food?!" Meaning that if he wanted he could have killed Puss in any time of the movie, but since he didn't, he saw that he grew better.
*Bravo to the writers*
These characters were all fantastic and easily one of the main draws of the movie. Jack Horner was, of course, hysterical (even moreso when paired with the Ethical Bug), the Wolf was beautifully realized and intimidating. Goldilocks and the Bears were one of my favorite parts of the movie, especially with how they're written, particularly the relationship between Baby and Goldi. I just love how the four of them switch back and forth from a hardcore group of criminals to a goofy family. It was just very heartwarming and made me root for them throughout the movie. The Wolf is probably the crown jewel of this movie in terms of its antagonists, but Goldi and the bears are my personal favorite.
we need a spinoff series or shorts with goldie and death
Goldie, yes. Death should be used VERY sparingly to preserve his enigma, not milked like Darth Vader for views.
Nah. Overusing Death would ruin the character. They would give him a sad backstory or some shit. Terrible idea.
Don’t forget Jack
One idea/change to death could be to change his design from a wolf to a rat. I know a rat isn’t nearly as menacing as a wolf, but since this film is pretty heavily based on children’s tales and nursery rhymes, it could be another way of flipping a common trope we see in cartoons. Along with that, it’s another layer to see the change in puss who, previous to losing his last life and seeing death, probably would’ve felt absolutely no fear to any rat, no matter how big or strong, to being terrified of this rat being portrayed as death. Rats also have some historical reference to death in things such as the Black Plague which could help in its symbolism
Honestly, I feel like one of the best things about this movie is how they portray Puss' panic attack. I was watching this and thinking about how it felt so realistic, such a good movie
This movie managed to make 3 different kinds of villains enjoyable to watch when most movies and TV shows nowadays can't even get ONE villain right. The people who made this movie need to be in charge of all the film studios.
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Everyone getting chills from the whistle meanwhile I am wandering why I feel like I am meeting an old friend. then the big reveal and went. “oooooooohhhhh thaat’s why.” No wander I was so calm.
The key to make them all work is building them different from one another. Jack and Goldie are after the same thing as Puss, but Jack is a villain and Goldie and the bears are more rivals than enemies.
Then there's Lobo who hasn't the same objective and is after Puss, making him the true antagonist to our protagonist
All three villains worked perfectly
I love me some Pixar, but if Turning Red wins the Oscar over this masterpiece we riot
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Almost every Frame from the fightscene is a amazing wallpaper
The way I screamed with the kids when he spooked Puss in the tunnel explained that this character was more than just ominous and scary. The animators and voice actor created a presence that not only served the plot but, to me respectively, gave a visual repeating of what fear and death could look like.
Defo buying the DVD 😆
i love how you never saw death coming and how he took the tone of any scene he popped into from a happy marvel action/comedy vibe to a screeching halt and brought a presence of isolation and fear.
Im not sure if anyone else noticed this, but in film/movies, death is always a character to teach the protagonist their lesson. You can't beat Death. You can't win against Death. It's something everyone will have to experience and writers know this. An example is in A Christmas Carol, Death is shown as the final messenger to Scrooge to change his ways. Not just a way to save himself but for him to save another(Tiny Tim), and this way, Puss is able to save himself and still protect his friends by growing as a character and letting go his ego. Maybe I'm looking into it too much, but I didn't see death as a villain in this movie, but as the unstoppable force that makes you change paths.
WAIT I Just Realized Something . If The Wolf Is Death And Mort's Name Means Death , Then That Means........... THERE THE SAME ENTITY
Jack Horner is a reflection of Puss in Boots and his flagrant disregard for his own 9 lives. Like Jack throwing away dozens and dozens of human lives in pursuit of the Wish, Puss threw away all 8 of his lives in pursuit of being an immortal legend, who laughs in the face of Death.
U didn’t have to do dream like that😂 that caught me off guard bro I died
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Can’t believe he’d disgrace such a fine character by comparing him to dream
His overall design, especially the twin scythes, makes me think of Darksiders' interpretation of Death.
1:42, I expected that from the trailer but the trailer for Puss in Boots 1 had led me to think Jack and Jill would be the main villains when it’s actually Humpty Alexander Dumpty
One goes from bad to good, one enjoys being bad, one is just nature
This was the movie that made me want to get into film production! I loved the villains and everything else about the movie, glad someone could put further analysis into what made the movie so good!
If I may just clarify, technically, Death wasn't the main villain. He was the overarching villain while the main villain was Jack Horner.
yeh
Disagree, The main conflict is puss is too arrogant and the movie wants puss to become better through Death. And i think Death really isn't a villain but more into an antagonist, please don't cancel me.
Death is not a villain however , that would require he is guided by greed and does not care about anyone. Death cares about everyone, he does not operate on greed. Death is mad is Puss for squandering his lives and he is out to teach the ultimate lessons. Death actually wants everyone to live a good life so that does not really make him a villain.
. Normally, I favor the dark, badass villains with swords like death, but surprisingly, Big jack was my favorite villain. The fact that he was outshined and nobody knew about him, being overlooked by mainstream fairy tales like Pinocchio, only to grow up being a big bad crime lord with a collection of fairy tale artifacts is a pretty boss move
Yeah he’s underrated
I find Death’s introduction to be similar to that of General Grievous’ from the 2003 micro series. Unlike the Clone Wars 2008 show, and the ROTS film, the original Grievous was terrifying. Despite how powerful the Jedi were, he took each of them down like they were nothing, even two Jedi masters (Ki Adi Mundi and Shaak Ti respectively). Hell, before he confronts the Jedi on Hypori, he gives a quick speech, then all the characters hear is his footsteps, getting closer and closer as the Jedi are filled with fear and anxiety, and so are we. His footsteps to me are similar to Death’s whistle, it lets the characters and audience know the danger our heroes are truly in, and Shaak Ti, who managed to survive, later on hears the same footsteps during the attack on Coruscant before he appears, and she’s once again reminded of her experience with him and filled with fear. I really like the contrast despite how different both brands are.
To me, they goldilocked the villians which is why it felt so right: Goldilocks and the bears are evil but they are the least evil of the options with their love for each other and really looking to make the wish for each other(orderly evil in a way), meanwhile Jack Horner is the most evil villain with his blatant disregard for others lives as well as being willing to steal lie kill and etc for his selfish goal(chaotic evil), which lastly leaves death… who is so interesting: he’s after puss because it’s his job and it would upset the balance of nature to not take those who die but puss isn’t dead yet just on his last life but with him disrespecting death so much death says he’s had enough and he’ll make an example of him and take his life early for missing the point of life itself and that makes death a rather impartial but still somewhat vengeful character(neutral evil).
This movie literally has 6 villains which is insane but it’s still so good I love each one
The Sinister Six of the Shrek universe!
@@victorhernandez8723 yes
when the wolf came on screen each time , I raised heckles, nothings done that since season 1 of stranger things
Crazy enough, It's even better when you actually have struggled with anxiety and panic attacks, you know exactly how Puss feels and know how the wolf looks like already.
goldilock looks beautiful i feel in love with her
What if there is a scene in the next Shrek CU, where Puss is going to die, then we just listen to the Wolf's whistle.
Prob Puss is not going to die any time soon, but that would give me chills.
The Whistle of Death is one of big reasons the white wolf works so well in this movie
First film is a solid 7 or 8! You're crazy, Humpty is great. His arc slapped.
I was so suprise they had blood and so many deaths. Funny if it is´t it but at all the places Puss saw death someone died. I do like that he did´t really have a big vendeta against Puss, sure he did´t like the idea of one creature having multible life, but he dose want the living to appreciate the life they have. Good message.
Everything in this movie was 10/10 The villains, the story and the side characters. And then....
We got the big reveal at the end credits. When the music for that hit....It brought back so much happiness and memories and nostalgia for my inner child. I cannot wait until the next time we see Puss, and the familiar faces.
narcos voicing death was just too damn GUD
This is such a good portrayal of Death. He isn't something you should fear. Because being afraid and running won't solve anything. All you can do is accept it. That's what Death teaches.