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Rockstar have the opportunity to add HSW to the Adder to make it the fastest car in the game and I can't believe they aren't taking it just for the meme.
Lmao I'd love that, not even sure if I'd want them to add a spoiler or not. With a spoiler it would still be a proper fun challenge to drive as well as being insanely fast. Without a spoiler it would be unhinged 🤣 either way if they ever do add HSW they should add some customisation like they did with the turismo and zentorno they really did the adder dirty
@@damienmcdonald7610 They could add customisation to it like they did with other vehicles. Would be hilarious if they gave it a 3 million dollar HSW upgrade that made it the only 200mph car and a spoiler upgrade then refuse to elaborate before ending update support.
It's a meme enough a BMW i8 is one of the fastest in GTA (faster than a Rica Nevera - imo beyond stupid lol), it's a letdown of a car irl so it's quite ironic. Don't get me wrong, nearly 400hp in a 3200lb vehicle is very quick, but the irony is that it's a $150,000 starting price for mid performance that a $60,000 corvette can give you (and more).
@@StalinBeWallin so many cars are like that in this game. my favorite example is that the Comet S2 has some of the most boaty handling and mediocre performance amongst the Tuners class despite the real life 911 being one of the fastest production cars on a track (at least in the GT3 and GT2). meanwhile the Vectre is at the top of the Tuners class despite the real life RC-F being underwhelming even with the Track Edition they dropped.
The new police cars are flying off the shelves despite their prices, so why doensn't Rockstar just make the Niobe 4 million from the start, no HSW, same speed as it is now, and give the HSW upgrade to something like the Bullet or the Phoenix for like 2 or 2.5 million instead? They can put whatever price tag on the new cars anyway. This way they would delete not only the 4 million from the player's account, but also the 2 million for the old car upgrade, with still only one HSW upgrade to add to the game. And we as the players wouldn't have the scummy hidden paywall for new HSW cars.
With all the event weeks that have happened in the past where players could make millions and millions, it’s the ones who didn’t take advantage that are complaining about the prices
@@Pwnzor694that’s slightly true because the contract double money was disgusting money super easy super fast, but on top of that just making anything crazy expensive doesn’t make anyone happy
the hidden paywall is what makes people buy the car, gtao players in general are more likely to buy the car if it looks (relatively)low on the website only to find out that it's really expensive after the full upgrade, it sucks but it works and it sucks that it works because it's a very predatory way to get players to spend more money
@@Pwnzor694Making things crazy expensive doesn’t make people happy regardless if they can afford it or not. It’s the amount of labor it takes to get $5 million, thats the problem. I took advantage of 2x money on the contract and made $20 million but these prices are still crazy.
Can't you mod vehicles to perform like they're HSW on pc? I honestly don't know because I don't play public games on pc, too much BS to deal with. Also you guys can get 5m which looks way better than vanilla GTA anyway
Honestly surprised they haven’t put HSW and all E&E on PC except because they want it exclusive to new gen (even though the PC platform can perform better a decent amount of the time). Maybe one day…
@@TheGaminPowerhouse nah PC's are not powerful enough to handle the faster speed of HSW cars and rendering animals on the map. Also all pc players are hackers that wont pay for shark cards so there is no need for us to implement features. ~sincerely, Rockstar Games
@@Giedyfive ngl I first started reading this and was about to flame you 😂 but yeah, that’s definitely R* for you. Like Broughy said at the beginning, they’re only keeping it exclusive to PS5 and XBS/X so more people will play GTA VI when it drops on those consoles only. Always about the money…🤦🏼♂️
the thing that makes the lack of adding HSW to older cars all the more infuriating is how _trivial_ it is to add HSW upgrades. They could easily add 5-10 HSW versions of old cars every update without any effort but the only one we've gotten since the initial batch was the Stirling GT, and that was nearly 2 years ago now. The most time consuming part of adding HSW to an old car is probably making the liveries, so why are they being so stingy about it? Hell, if you're going to add it to new cars why not add it to _all_ new cars? Why the arbitrary decision to give it to the Euros and Niobe, and not the Paragon, Envisage, or Dominator FX?
It’s expensive but it’s definitely worth the investment. Too bad though, I’m a Bati 801 user, so I can’t really let that girl go that helped me from the start.
@asap2465 Pretty much use any bike you want as your only means of transportation. I think you can check in the mc club portion of the interaction menu when registered as an mc president.
Drive the Bike you want as Favorite and never switch to another one until it turns to Favorite Bike. Otherwise the Hidden Bike Timer resets if you switch Bike even once.
Yep, HSW for the Sentinel XS is such breath of fresh air for an otherwise underwhelming performing car than what its appearance might suggest. Other sports coupé cars, like the Penumbra & Schwartzer, rly need & deserve the upgrade....
i just collected 3 safes that were filled 250,000 (besides the pizza arcade one) and did 2 auto shop contracts and sold 2 cars from there and sold my sea sparrow since i will never use it since i always spawn the regular sparrow. i got the hakuchu drag with its HSW upgrade. i guess i could have sold some acid and what filled up in the night club to make more money but i wanted to get some sleep.
Adding HSW to new cars is probably just more of that incentive thing. You'll still get the new car on PS4, but it won't be the full experience. Can't let old gen plebs have too much fun, please buy GTA again
To add even more insult to injury, payouts from doing races are so low that you'll never be able to afford the most competitive cars without either playing content you aren't interested in playing or buying shark cards.
What really grinds my gears as someone who primarily plays this game for the cars, is that rockstar removes speed glitches and nerfs fan favourite cars like the Jester classic that causes no harm to them or the players and is purely just used for fun. But won’t at least give us HSW upgrades to make these older cars worth having. I would think this alone would make them a lot of money as well.
Just unfortunate that R*/Take 2 have money eyes and saw how popular HSW that instead of continuing to add the feature to older cars to balance out the classes, they went new car exclusive for Shark Card sales 😕 Would’ve been great to see a HSW Faggio/Faggio Mod for the memes 😢
Rockstar really needs to release this update on PC, but it seems like they have a grudge against PC. I might not even get GTA 6 if PC gets it a year later than everyone else.
Yea hi rockstar CEO here, we hate your guts with a passion, if we could unrelease GTA for PC we would, we're extremely pissed people are modding the game like with fiveM or mod menu's for money and not paying for more sharkcards. (obvious /s here)
It's really too bad that Rockstar did not use the HSW to bring new life to older and slower vehicles! It just destroys the purpose behind this new feature and clearly a missed opportunity... As always with Rockstar.... 🙄
Great video and definitely one of many that I have been excited to see, especially since nowadays I have been buying and upgrading a ton of cars (most notably adding the Cosmo Tuner or Flat Six Offroad tires like a lot of your cars have). I still agree with everything you say about the idea of HSW: older cars being brought up to the pace of the newer cars and being relevant again instead of just the newer cars being dominant everywhere. I think what's more annoying is that it didn't even take a year for Rockstar to stop adding the upgrades to old cars and only to the new cars. The only exceptions I will allow are the 5 cars added with Expanded and Enhanced. I'm sure we can both agree if we (as in the community) were in charge of the HSW cars, we would only add it to popular cars like the Zentorno, 9F, etc.
If you can perfect the wheelie on the arbiter gt, it'll gap every vehicle in a straight line, hsw or not, except the niobe which has no right being so fast 😂
Agreed about breathing life into the older cars. I was hoping to see more of this; I actually thought this was the whole HSW concept kind of like an alt. take on Benny's. IRL that's the tuning world, take an old car and build it. I wonder if part of it is because not enough people were bothering to upgrade the old cars.
Excellent breakdown, as always. Couldn't agree more that R* failing to add HSW to older vehicles is just a blatant missed opportunity. My hopes for GTA 6 Online being anything other than an insidiously monetized, overly scripted, made by comity dumpster fire is non existent at this point.
I think old vehicles with HSW upgrade can't be marketed so well to casual players. The casual player only looks at new vehicles and spends his money there.
hey, idk if you've answered this before but why do you use the highway around Mount Gordo's area and not a dead straight lane like the airfields? Just curious since the airfield doesn't have any small turns to change the speed slightly
nor does the straight he uses, he does a long enough run-up to make sure the car is at its top speed before it hits CP1, then straight line til CP2 problem with the airfield is you'd not be testing top speed but more-so acceleration
The police cars aren't usable in races so there are extra hurdles to jump through to get them tested properly. In addition, it's not just a case of testing the new police cars - the entire emergency class requires retesting too. On top of that, there are other classes that still need retesting (the most notable being off-roads which people are constantly asking me about). So with all that put together, it will be some time before the 2024 emergency class video which contains the new police cars. But, as with every car in the game, they will get tested and feature in a video sooner rather than later.
Broughy, maybe you've answered this before, but I haven't come across it. Considering the ever expansive nature of this game, specifically it's sports class, is there a chance you'll be pushed into the alphabetical s tier sooner or later? If so, what's your plan for that tier breakdown. Edit: I've yet to watch the 2024 new style videos you've made, maybe the answer is there.
I wonder if the PC version is an issue for making new cars as fast as they want? The HSW Niobe being the default Niobe would make it quite absurd on PC. jk Rockstar doesn't care about the PC version but that'd be a convenient excuse.
Great video, was hoping to see the police vehicles test video though with the release of the last 2 from BDB. Can't wait for that and totally agree about HSW should be for old cars 100%!
The police cars aren't usable in races so there are extra hurdles to jump through to get them tested properly. In addition, it's not just a case of testing the new police cars - the entire emergency class requires retesting too. On top of that, there are other classes that still need retesting (the most notable being off-roads which people are constantly asking me about). So with all that put together, it will be some time before the 2024 emergency class video which contains the new police cars. But, as with every car in the game, they will get tested and feature in a video sooner rather than later.
My guess for why the update and HSW isn't on PC is because the market is too variable. We dont know how many people even run the game from an SSD or HDD, even those who run off of an SSD might not be at an acceptable speed to make the gameplay smooth and reliable. PS5 and Series consoles have some of the fastest SSD's and you can find similar speeds on the PC market but I would guess less than 0.01% of players even have those.
The Reever has a much higher top speed than these cars and that is on PC with no issue -- hardware limitations isn't the problem it's a manufactured barrier to entry
@@vigour6786 okay correction the Stinger TT is the only HSW that beats the Reever (168.5mph versus 163.0mph respectively) The Reever has the Gargoyle glitch meaning it can self-kerb boost if given the right customisation - ua-cam.com/video/D6Pmw-9-6SU/v-deo.htmlsi=etrZyLx6qDBq6_fT&t=126 - and it's stil unfixed for 2 years and on PC
@@DiNmiTe So the Reever isn't really that fast, it's only because of a glitch? My point is that what Rockstar has added has never been as fast as HSW outside of glitches like these and I'm sure if you ran that glitch on a lower end PC or Xbox or PS4 you would experience drastic visual hinders.
@@vigour6786there have been several glitches over the years to go faster than HSW, especially on PC. It has never caused issues, even back on 360 and PS3 which had ancient HDDs and 256Mb of RAM. Going faster isn't going to cause significant hardware stress. Rockstar just straight-up lied
Hi dude, hope ye can help me solve a puzzle, my friends top speed in hes online Stats say 240+mph yes mph Nero Custom? Is this a glitch or bug ? He is on Console & just transferred over to xbox series XS, hope you can help, my top speed 168mph in the Stinger, I know in campaign ye can use Franklin to get those types of speeds but not sure how he has those in hes online Stats
Read: gtacars.net/gta5/topspeed There are all sorts of bugs and whatnot that cause that reading to be wrong. Mine is over 300mph in a Roosevelt from doing tattoo parlour door launch glitches back in 2014. That stat can't be trusted.
Kind of a little annoying how they made the weaponized ignus a hsw and not the regular one ik they did it cause nobody was buying tha weaponized one especially not the car community
Broughy, I need your help for an old school garage...2013 fastest each class...Elerghy RH8, Rhapsody, Bison, Sadler, Exempler, Huntley S, days.... It's hard to find that video.
My original 2013 testing was stock cars, so not particularly relevant. Best thing to do is use the filtering on gtacars. Specifically these then change the class (jobs) filter to suit: gtacars.net/?filter_dlc=TitleUpdate&sort=lap_time&filter_race_class=sup
@@broughy1322 It's an honor to get a reply sir. I have been watching your videos a long time. I wish I could do UA-cam. I have 4 characters and own everything but the Lost Slamvan. One of my many garages has my original racing collection. Thanks for all the great work. My most expensive set is the 30 Hot Ring Everon. I have one for each livery. I also have every Hotring Sabre and Every Hotring Hellfire.
Gta needs to be hsw only & make every car hsw avaliable. Fk classes thats what makes it boring. Its always devastate or pariah winning. We need abt 20 vehicle's that have the ability of winning
They need to bring HSW to cars really need it like the old voltic old bullet older cars whats the point to bring HSW to new cars since new cars handling are so bad of some of them OG cars like the carbonizzare handling are way more better but yeah like u said broughy thats R* these days
The first few vehicles aren't correct, either their top speed is wrong or their position compared to the others is incorrect. The Issi Rally has 138.5 mph which is stated as 23rd but the next car in the Sentinel XS has 136.5 mph but is stated to be 18th.
It's a mistake with the Issi Rally specifically. I've duplicated the lap time positions on the top speed side accidentally. It should instead read "HSW: 17th | SUVs: 1st". Thanks for pointing it out! Have added a note to the pinned comment.
No it wouldn’t, the reever’s top speed is higher than all these cars and that’s fine on old gen. Technical limitations have never been a reason for car speeds - it’s all manufactured.
The police cars aren't usable in races so there are extra hurdles to jump through to get them tested properly. In addition, it's not just a case of testing the new police cars - the entire emergency class requires retesting too. On top of that, there are other classes that still need retesting (the most notable being off-roads which people are constantly asking me about). So with all that put together, it will be some time before the 2024 emergency class video which contains the new police cars. But, as with every car in the game, they will get tested and feature in a video sooner rather than later.
Broughy, the GTO Stinger TT has been buffed...it's handling has improved since the latest update..check it out! Also would love to see the personal vehicle COP cars getting tested has it's hard to tell which one performs the best around a track...keep up the great work! cheers
Because I was curious I decided to go check on the track. It's exactly the same. Just as bad as it always was. Nothing had changed in the game files so I was already sceptical but I could tell within the first few corners it's the same as before, so not sure where you got that from. As for the police cars, they aren't usable in races so there are extra hurdles to jump through to get them tested properly. In addition, it's not just a case of testing the new police cars - the entire emergency class requires retesting too. On top of that, there are other classes that still need retesting (the most notable being off-roads which people are constantly asking me about). So with all that put together, it will be some time before the 2024 emergency class video which contains the new police cars. But, as with every car in the game, they will get tested and feature in a video sooner rather than later.
I completely agree, new cars should be at “HSW speed” from the box and they should put HSW upgrades on older cars. Win win for everyone. However, my theory is that it’s all because of old gen. If anyone is still on old gen, like myself, you’ll agree that even the weevil custom and pariah make the map not load in in free roam. The player base is still quite large and thus adding to their shark card sales. Until they stop updating old gen, I don’t see them doing what we all think would be best. Like PS3-PS4/Xbox 360-Xbox One, people will keep playing the older gen until it stops being updated.
I'll say it again, old gen better, hsw is nonsensical, overpriced and op, old gen is so much more balanced and just makes sense like with an Urus being top of the class over a Sienna and F1 cars being faster than road cars smh
There are still a plethora of nonsense and unbalanced cars on Gen8 game versions. The Club, for example, utterly demolishes the rest of the Compacts class and sets a laptime on par with the Hotrings. The Kamacho is king in Offroads and has an utterly stupid amount of performance (especially traction) for such a big bulky vehicle
Nice video. Yea i have (raced) a few Hakucjow drags on my Gotti TT, and from 0 to 60, they get me. I come around them about 100, then there back around about 130, then i come back around. We all know handing is a different story but when you pass a drag on a car, there definitely confused. Lol
Note: I accidentally duplicated the lap time positions for the Issi Rally on the top speed side too. It should instead read "HSW: 17th | SUVs: 1st"
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Rockstar have the opportunity to add HSW to the Adder to make it the fastest car in the game and I can't believe they aren't taking it just for the meme.
Lmao I'd love that, not even sure if I'd want them to add a spoiler or not. With a spoiler it would still be a proper fun challenge to drive as well as being insanely fast. Without a spoiler it would be unhinged 🤣 either way if they ever do add HSW they should add some customisation like they did with the turismo and zentorno they really did the adder dirty
@@damienmcdonald7610 They could add customisation to it like they did with other vehicles. Would be hilarious if they gave it a 3 million dollar HSW upgrade that made it the only 200mph car and a spoiler upgrade then refuse to elaborate before ending update support.
It's a meme enough a BMW i8 is one of the fastest in GTA (faster than a Rica Nevera - imo beyond stupid lol), it's a letdown of a car irl so it's quite ironic. Don't get me wrong, nearly 400hp in a 3200lb vehicle is very quick, but the irony is that it's a $150,000 starting price for mid performance that a $60,000 corvette can give you (and more).
@@StalinBeWallin so many cars are like that in this game. my favorite example is that the Comet S2 has some of the most boaty handling and mediocre performance amongst the Tuners class despite the real life 911 being one of the fastest production cars on a track (at least in the GT3 and GT2). meanwhile the Vectre is at the top of the Tuners class despite the real life RC-F being underwhelming even with the Track Edition they dropped.
Should be added to Chiron too since it's real life version is faster than Adder's real life version.
Cant wait for this video to be relevant to PC players when GTA VII Anniversary Edition comes out
The new police cars are flying off the shelves despite their prices, so why doensn't Rockstar just make the Niobe 4 million from the start, no HSW, same speed as it is now, and give the HSW upgrade to something like the Bullet or the Phoenix for like 2 or 2.5 million instead? They can put whatever price tag on the new cars anyway. This way they would delete not only the 4 million from the player's account, but also the 2 million for the old car upgrade, with still only one HSW upgrade to add to the game. And we as the players wouldn't have the scummy hidden paywall for new HSW cars.
With all the event weeks that have happened in the past where players could make millions and millions, it’s the ones who didn’t take advantage that are complaining about the prices
@@Pwnzor694that’s slightly true because the contract double money was disgusting money super easy super fast, but on top of that just making anything crazy expensive doesn’t make anyone happy
the hidden paywall is what makes people buy the car, gtao players in general are more likely to buy the car if it looks (relatively)low on the website only to find out that it's really expensive after the full upgrade, it sucks but it works and it sucks that it works because it's a very predatory way to get players to spend more money
@@Pwnzor694Making things crazy expensive doesn’t make people happy regardless if they can afford it or not. It’s the amount of labor it takes to get $5 million, thats the problem. I took advantage of 2x money on the contract and made $20 million but these prices are still crazy.
@@jamarispinner5320 it’s laziness on the players part.
Brutally honest breakdown of HSW's poor implementation and how it could be so much better. As always: left wishing for more.
Why am I watching this? I'm just a lowley PC player
Can't you mod vehicles to perform like they're HSW on pc? I honestly don't know because I don't play public games on pc, too much BS to deal with. Also you guys can get 5m which looks way better than vanilla GTA anyway
@@damienmcdonald7610 no because we don't wanna get banned
Honestly surprised they haven’t put HSW and all E&E on PC except because they want it exclusive to new gen (even though the PC platform can perform better a decent amount of the time). Maybe one day…
@@TheGaminPowerhouse nah PC's are not powerful enough to handle the faster speed of HSW cars and rendering animals on the map. Also all pc players are hackers that wont pay for shark cards so there is no need for us to implement features. ~sincerely, Rockstar Games
@@Giedyfive ngl I first started reading this and was about to flame you 😂 but yeah, that’s definitely R* for you. Like Broughy said at the beginning, they’re only keeping it exclusive to PS5 and XBS/X so more people will play GTA VI when it drops on those consoles only. Always about the money…🤦🏼♂️
the thing that makes the lack of adding HSW to older cars all the more infuriating is how _trivial_ it is to add HSW upgrades. They could easily add 5-10 HSW versions of old cars every update without any effort but the only one we've gotten since the initial batch was the Stirling GT, and that was nearly 2 years ago now. The most time consuming part of adding HSW to an old car is probably making the liveries, so why are they being so stingy about it?
Hell, if you're going to add it to new cars why not add it to _all_ new cars? Why the arbitrary decision to give it to the Euros and Niobe, and not the Paragon, Envisage, or Dominator FX?
The Hakuchou Drag also being a bike means you're eligible for the favorite bike bonus buffs as well. Imo that makes it the best HSW vehicle.
how do you get favorite bike bonus?
It’s expensive but it’s definitely worth the investment. Too bad though, I’m a Bati 801 user, so I can’t really let that girl go that helped me from the start.
@asap2465 Pretty much use any bike you want as your only means of transportation. I think you can check in the mc club portion of the interaction menu when registered as an mc president.
Drive the Bike you want as Favorite and never switch to another one until it turns to Favorite Bike. Otherwise the Hidden Bike Timer resets if you switch Bike even once.
@@LosSkywolfGTR It always says the Oppressor Mk1 is my favorite and i havent used it in years.. 💀
I always used the Hakuchou Drag, even before HSW.
Yep, HSW for the Sentinel XS is such breath of fresh air for an otherwise underwhelming performing car than what its appearance might suggest. Other sports coupé cars, like the Penumbra & Schwartzer, rly need & deserve the upgrade....
We need HSW upgrades for the sell mission vehicles. Give us HSW Post Op Vans.
I'm not mad at HSW but what cars get it are definitely a choice of all time.
Hsw cars are so damn expensive that it makes grinding feel all the more laborious. 4-5 cayo pericos for a single car is insane
I have generational wealth from my businesses I started back in 2015 I have around 15 to 25 million for the last 8 years
i just collected 3 safes that were filled 250,000 (besides the pizza arcade one) and did 2 auto shop contracts and sold 2 cars from there and sold my sea sparrow since i will never use it since i always spawn the regular sparrow. i got the hakuchu drag with its HSW upgrade. i guess i could have sold some acid and what filled up in the night club to make more money but i wanted to get some sleep.
Adding HSW to new cars is probably just more of that incentive thing. You'll still get the new car on PS4, but it won't be the full experience. Can't let old gen plebs have too much fun, please buy GTA again
That was a cool track layout edit
@@DiNmiTedinmite from borderlands
@@WillFuI :o
To add even more insult to injury, payouts from doing races are so low that you'll never be able to afford the most competitive cars without either playing content you aren't interested in playing or buying shark cards.
What really grinds my gears as someone who primarily plays this game for the cars, is that rockstar removes speed glitches and nerfs fan favourite cars like the Jester classic that causes no harm to them or the players and is purely just used for fun. But won’t at least give us HSW upgrades to make these older cars worth having. I would think this alone would make them a lot of money as well.
wasnt the RE-7B the fastest glitched car in history and it got nerfed?
I agree totally with your final thoughts on the concept of HSW, Broughy 🙏
thank you as always for the great gta Online car vids broughy
Just unfortunate that R*/Take 2 have money eyes and saw how popular HSW that instead of continuing to add the feature to older cars to balance out the classes, they went new car exclusive for Shark Card sales 😕 Would’ve been great to see a HSW Faggio/Faggio Mod for the memes 😢
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Perfect video. Thank you. I agree.
Rockstar really needs to release this update on PC, but it seems like they have a grudge against PC. I might not even get GTA 6 if PC gets it a year later than everyone else.
It's almost guaranteed it will be at least a year
@@sirrumble1 that sadly what I also heard
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It's really too bad that Rockstar did not use the HSW to bring new life to older and slower vehicles! It just destroys the purpose behind this new feature and clearly a missed opportunity... As always with Rockstar.... 🙄
I want HSW on nice to drive RWD cars that lack top speed to be even better. The Tampa is the first thing that comes to my mind in that regard
Great video and definitely one of many that I have been excited to see, especially since nowadays I have been buying and upgrading a ton of cars (most notably adding the Cosmo Tuner or Flat Six Offroad tires like a lot of your cars have). I still agree with everything you say about the idea of HSW: older cars being brought up to the pace of the newer cars and being relevant again instead of just the newer cars being dominant everywhere.
I think what's more annoying is that it didn't even take a year for Rockstar to stop adding the upgrades to old cars and only to the new cars. The only exceptions I will allow are the 5 cars added with Expanded and Enhanced. I'm sure we can both agree if we (as in the community) were in charge of the HSW cars, we would only add it to popular cars like the Zentorno, 9F, etc.
If you can perfect the wheelie on the arbiter gt, it'll gap every vehicle in a straight line, hsw or not, except the niobe which has no right being so fast 😂
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Tier D is 3:36 not 3:12, thank you for your amazing work as always
Fixed, thanks
Agreed about breathing life into the older cars. I was hoping to see more of this; I actually thought this was the whole HSW concept kind of like an alt. take on Benny's. IRL that's the tuning world, take an old car and build it. I wonder if part of it is because not enough people were bothering to upgrade the old cars.
Excellent breakdown, as always. Couldn't agree more that R* failing to add HSW to older vehicles is just a blatant missed opportunity. My hopes for GTA 6 Online being anything other than an insidiously monetized, overly scripted, made by comity dumpster fire is non existent at this point.
More older cars like the Bullet, Cheetah, Entity XF, Adder, Dominator, Shafter V12, etc...
As a PC player, fascinating but useless, still appreciate all your work and everything you do.
Sooo, basically sports is supers now...
More old cars need HSW upgrades it will make the classes more competitive
I want a HSW Progen GP1 or one of the Bugattis, maybe the Thrax so they actually live up to their IRL counterpart's legacies.
@@MedicalBillzu have a progen gp1?
@@michaelmarchesi4184 uh huh
I think old vehicles with HSW upgrade can't be marketed so well to casual players. The casual player only looks at new vehicles and spends his money there.
I have not played GTA 5 for a long time so HSW cars are a mystery to me.
hey, idk if you've answered this before but why do you use the highway around Mount Gordo's area and not a dead straight lane like the airfields? Just curious since the airfield doesn't have any small turns to change the speed slightly
nor does the straight he uses, he does a long enough run-up to make sure the car is at its top speed before it hits CP1, then straight line til CP2
problem with the airfield is you'd not be testing top speed but more-so acceleration
Full methodology: gtacars.net/gta5/topspeed
@@DiNmiTe Ohhhhh okay, that makes more sense then. Thank you
Commentary 4:51 - 5:07 I really want a HSW Golf Caddy now!
Please Rock*, the Zentorno needs this
I just wish they’d revamp the vapid bullet 😔
Hey broughy, are you ever going to test the police cars?
the emergency class isn't used much for races so it's gonna be late compared to the other classes
yes he will eventually, have patience
@@DiNmiTe Dw, I was just asking. No rush
The police cars aren't usable in races so there are extra hurdles to jump through to get them tested properly. In addition, it's not just a case of testing the new police cars - the entire emergency class requires retesting too. On top of that, there are other classes that still need retesting (the most notable being off-roads which people are constantly asking me about). So with all that put together, it will be some time before the 2024 emergency class video which contains the new police cars. But, as with every car in the game, they will get tested and feature in a video sooner rather than later.
@@broughy1322 Awesome! Thanks, man!
I made the mistake of buying the stinger and it’s trash. It’s virtually undriveable in the rain and even just normally
Broughy, maybe you've answered this before, but I haven't come across it. Considering the ever expansive nature of this game, specifically it's sports class, is there a chance you'll be pushed into the alphabetical s tier sooner or later? If so, what's your plan for that tier breakdown.
Edit: I've yet to watch the 2024 new style videos you've made, maybe the answer is there.
Has he already done Off-Road Class test video?
Not yet but it's coming
are there certain upgrades you need to give the cyclone 2 in order to make it handle better?
No, the handling is just bad, like Virtue.
I wonder if the PC version is an issue for making new cars as fast as they want? The HSW Niobe being the default Niobe would make it quite absurd on PC. jk Rockstar doesn't care about the PC version but that'd be a convenient excuse.
@broughy1332 is it real that if you put a neon kit on your car that improves the handling of the car or is it a rumor?
Neons shift the centre of mass around -- gtacars.net/gta5/setups
Great video, was hoping to see the police vehicles test video though with the release of the last 2 from BDB. Can't wait for that and totally agree about HSW should be for old cars 100%!
The police cars aren't usable in races so there are extra hurdles to jump through to get them tested properly. In addition, it's not just a case of testing the new police cars - the entire emergency class requires retesting too. On top of that, there are other classes that still need retesting (the most notable being off-roads which people are constantly asking me about). So with all that put together, it will be some time before the 2024 emergency class video which contains the new police cars. But, as with every car in the game, they will get tested and feature in a video sooner rather than later.
My guess for why the update and HSW isn't on PC is because the market is too variable. We dont know how many people even run the game from an SSD or HDD, even those who run off of an SSD might not be at an acceptable speed to make the gameplay smooth and reliable. PS5 and Series consoles have some of the fastest SSD's and you can find similar speeds on the PC market but I would guess less than 0.01% of players even have those.
The Reever has a much higher top speed than these cars and that is on PC with no issue -- hardware limitations isn't the problem it's a manufactured barrier to entry
@@DiNmiTe oh really what’s the reevers top speed and what’s the top speed of the fastest HSW?
@@vigour6786 okay correction the Stinger TT is the only HSW that beats the Reever (168.5mph versus 163.0mph respectively)
The Reever has the Gargoyle glitch meaning it can self-kerb boost if given the right customisation - ua-cam.com/video/D6Pmw-9-6SU/v-deo.htmlsi=etrZyLx6qDBq6_fT&t=126 - and it's stil unfixed for 2 years and on PC
@@DiNmiTe So the Reever isn't really that fast, it's only because of a glitch? My point is that what Rockstar has added has never been as fast as HSW outside of glitches like these and I'm sure if you ran that glitch on a lower end PC or Xbox or PS4 you would experience drastic visual hinders.
@@vigour6786there have been several glitches over the years to go faster than HSW, especially on PC. It has never caused issues, even back on 360 and PS3 which had ancient HDDs and 256Mb of RAM. Going faster isn't going to cause significant hardware stress. Rockstar just straight-up lied
Hi dude, hope ye can help me solve a puzzle, my friends top speed in hes online Stats say 240+mph yes mph Nero Custom? Is this a glitch or bug ? He is on Console & just transferred over to xbox series XS, hope you can help, my top speed 168mph in the Stinger, I know in campaign ye can use Franklin to get those types of speeds but not sure how he has those in hes online Stats
Read: gtacars.net/gta5/topspeed
There are all sorts of bugs and whatnot that cause that reading to be wrong. Mine is over 300mph in a Roosevelt from doing tattoo parlour door launch glitches back in 2014. That stat can't be trusted.
Kind of a little annoying how they made the weaponized ignus a hsw and not the regular one ik they did it cause nobody was buying tha weaponized one especially not the car community
Broughy, I need your help for an old school garage...2013 fastest each class...Elerghy RH8, Rhapsody, Bison, Sadler, Exempler, Huntley S, days.... It's hard to find that video.
My original 2013 testing was stock cars, so not particularly relevant. Best thing to do is use the filtering on gtacars. Specifically these then change the class (jobs) filter to suit: gtacars.net/?filter_dlc=TitleUpdate&sort=lap_time&filter_race_class=sup
@@broughy1322 It's an honor to get a reply sir. I have been watching your videos a long time. I wish I could do UA-cam. I have 4 characters and own everything but the Lost Slamvan. One of my many garages has my original racing collection. Thanks for all the great work. My most expensive set is the 30 Hot Ring Everon. I have one for each livery. I also have every Hotring Sabre and Every Hotring Hellfire.
What motorcycle is first for top speed?
see gtacars.net/?filter_class=motorcycle&sort=top_speed
Wonder what the speed glitched hsw Turismo does for top speed
Gta needs to be hsw only & make every car hsw avaliable. Fk classes thats what makes it boring. Its always devastate or pariah winning. We need abt 20 vehicle's that have the ability of winning
They need to bring HSW to cars really need it like the old voltic old bullet older cars whats the point to bring HSW to new cars since new cars handling are so bad of some of them OG cars like the carbonizzare handling are way more better but yeah like u said broughy thats R* these days
I feel bad for pc and old gen console gamers. 😢
The first few vehicles aren't correct, either their top speed is wrong or their position compared to the others is incorrect. The Issi Rally has 138.5 mph which is stated as 23rd but the next car in the Sentinel XS has 136.5 mph but is stated to be 18th.
It's a mistake with the Issi Rally specifically. I've duplicated the lap time positions on the top speed side accidentally. It should instead read "HSW: 17th | SUVs: 1st". Thanks for pointing it out! Have added a note to the pinned comment.
Hsw Niobe now the new best car for sports class races? When HSW is enabled
And arguably when not enabled too. More details from the original testing video:
ua-cam.com/video/PPBLCP829dU/v-deo.html
@@broughy1322 many thanks for this! Love your work
10:40 to answer this, making new cars reach HSW speed would restrict them out of old gen (and I guess PC by extension).
No it wouldn’t, the reever’s top speed is higher than all these cars and that’s fine on old gen. Technical limitations have never been a reason for car speeds - it’s all manufactured.
Still not on PC. You made a great point of them wanting players to get a console for Hsw, making them an easier target for Gta 6 Lauch audience.
When are you going to test the new police vehicles?
The police cars aren't usable in races so there are extra hurdles to jump through to get them tested properly. In addition, it's not just a case of testing the new police cars - the entire emergency class requires retesting too. On top of that, there are other classes that still need retesting (the most notable being off-roads which people are constantly asking me about). So with all that put together, it will be some time before the 2024 emergency class video which contains the new police cars. But, as with every car in the game, they will get tested and feature in a video sooner rather than later.
@@broughy1322 thank you for your reply, I appreciate it! And understood sir 🫡
I’m just a pc player dreamin
Broughy, the GTO Stinger TT has been buffed...it's handling has improved since the latest update..check it out! Also would love to see the personal vehicle COP cars getting tested has it's hard to tell which one performs the best around a track...keep up the great work! cheers
Because I was curious I decided to go check on the track. It's exactly the same. Just as bad as it always was. Nothing had changed in the game files so I was already sceptical but I could tell within the first few corners it's the same as before, so not sure where you got that from.
As for the police cars, they aren't usable in races so there are extra hurdles to jump through to get them tested properly. In addition, it's not just a case of testing the new police cars - the entire emergency class requires retesting too. On top of that, there are other classes that still need retesting (the most notable being off-roads which people are constantly asking me about). So with all that put together, it will be some time before the 2024 emergency class video which contains the new police cars. But, as with every car in the game, they will get tested and feature in a video sooner rather than later.
Need zentorno
Cool
Why am i watching this I'm on xbox one
Monserrat Port
Me PC only, I'll pass on HSW and GTA 6 if they don't want to put any effort into letting me play.
I refuse to go backwards, I am not downgrading to a Ps5 or Xbox Series Junk.
I completely agree, new cars should be at “HSW speed” from the box and they should put HSW upgrades on older cars. Win win for everyone.
However, my theory is that it’s all because of old gen. If anyone is still on old gen, like myself, you’ll agree that even the weevil custom and pariah make the map not load in in free roam.
The player base is still quite large and thus adding to their shark card sales. Until they stop updating old gen, I don’t see them doing what we all think would be best. Like PS3-PS4/Xbox 360-Xbox One, people will keep playing the older gen until it stops being updated.
The map not loading has nothing to do with the speed of the cars
@@Johnny362000 You recon? Not disagreeing, just curious and would like you to expand.
The pipistrello should get an hsw upgrade
Of course it's an HSW vehicle at the top of the list... 😒
We need Fastest Emergency class vehicle video asap 🤗
we need people to show patience asap 🤗
@@DiNmiTe TF 😂
Brother why don’t you make a video with all cars hsw and non hsw combined, would be much easier for us than 2 separate videos for hsw and non hsw.
I mean every single car is already in the videos for their respective classes, all in the playlist, both HSW and non HSW versions together.
I have screenshots of stinger tt and Niobe 193...and video clips
Good for you. Read: gtacars.net/gta5/topspeed
I love and hate how you say G Tier
I always hear you say "The slowest GTA cars and the top s tiers..."
I'll say it again, old gen better, hsw is nonsensical, overpriced and op, old gen is so much more balanced and just makes sense like with an Urus being top of the class over a Sienna and F1 cars being faster than road cars smh
There are still a plethora of nonsense and unbalanced cars on Gen8 game versions. The Club, for example, utterly demolishes the rest of the Compacts class and sets a laptime on par with the Hotrings. The Kamacho is king in Offroads and has an utterly stupid amount of performance (especially traction) for such a big bulky vehicle
And still no HSW for PC
How to get hsw
lscm
LSCM on PS5 and Xbox Series only
1:30
@@novawolf_gaming so not possible on pc?
@@Pokemon_Old_Heritage Nope
PC Players:WTF IS HSW....
We will probably get GTA 6 on PC before HSW lul.
Nice video. Yea i have (raced) a few Hakucjow drags on my Gotti TT, and from 0 to 60, they get me. I come around them about 100, then there back around about 130, then i come back around. We all know handing is a different story but when you pass a drag on a car, there definitely confused. Lol
As a PC Player with zero chance of ever getting to use them. WHY am I watching this? #broughy1322 I guess