I had my Newport 2 fitted with it about 3 months ago. I saw an immediate difference on the practice green hitting 10, 20 and 30 feet putts, nothing more than a 2 putt with a good percentage of 1 putts. When I took it on course I reduced my putts per round by between 4 to 6 although I need a lot more rounds to be certain that those figures hold up. It is a completely different feel in the hand, feeling excuse the pun, much more stable and I like it. I spent a lot of money on a good driver that suits my game and play it on average 14 times a round. It makes perfect sense for me to invest in the putter where I have the potential to see the most gains. I would encourage people to try this.
@@jimmyp6049 yes I still love the putter, if I was making the change today I would take the new version of the stability shaft as I think the profile has improved, although I have not used it. I may at some point change my putter but would still change out the shaft to a stability shaft.
@@garycumberland8089 Thanks . I have a Bettinardi being built by Club Champion and I just made the plunge for The Tour all black limited edition . I like that it’s not as thick as the original . Let’s say u wanted to keep ur shaft could u transfer it to another putter ? Or is it a whole new buying process ? I realize u wanna change but I’m curious 4 years down the road if I ever switched putters would I need to buy the stability shaft again . Thanks for the response .
@@jimmyp6049 I’m not sure I believe you should be able to move it as you can do with an iron shaft it held with the old shaft glued inside the stability. Enjoy it I’m certain you will
just used one for about 10 rounds. i made more short putts for sure. it really really made the swing weight go down not up or or at least i could not feel the head at all, basically anything outside of 10 feet i could not judge distance at all......i added 10 inches of lead tape felt like i needed 10 more inches at least.
I have this putter. the shaft on it is unusual in that it has no taper so the grip can slide up and down the shaft and be adjustable for length. Thus it is a very flexible as the small diameter of the lower shaft is the same diameter all the way through the grip. I like this putter and putt well with it but i have a smooth transition back to forward. but on long putts that maybe hit slightly off center can definitely feel the shaft twisting. As Michael said its kind of a permanent change cutting your shaft and installing the stability shaft. and after not having the best experience with a stroke lab putter that has the same kind of carbon shaft I'll be looking foreword to a further review of your experience with this Michael. Thanks
I had this shaft installed on my Evnroll ER2. Sent it to their HQ in Texas, Trever set me up with 3 deg flat lie and 44 degrees toe down! Comes new from Evnroll with 22 degrees toe down. Loving the 44 degrees toe down, helps my strong arc stroke ! This putter is a beast. I have the 285 gram heavier head which Evnroll doesn’t even offer anymore.
I can but into he idea that this shaft would influence the feel of a putter but the idea that a conventional putter has so much twist that a different shaft construction would influence accuracy is a little over the top.
Considering that the face angle of a putter needs to be less than 1 degree open/closed to make an 8ft putt, I don't think it's as over the top as you think.
I’ve had the stability shaft with Ping head in the bag for about 1.5 months and love it. Very stable and surprisingly good feel. Putting improving as well.
Placebo effect. What's happening is you've paid a fortune for a stick and ruined your putter and you don't want to admit it was a mistake so you've convinced yourself it's all been worth it.
I guess everyone misses the point of the shaft. If you hit your putt off center on your normal steel shaft it will be off line. Heel will go left, toe will go right because of the torque and twist the ball will put on the head and shaft. With the stability shaft the torque is reduced. Off center hits will still track a whole lot straighter and stay on line more consistently. If you paid attention he clearly hit a putt off the toe and it tracked exactly to the hole still. That’s what this shaft is for, it’s not a magic wand.
I tried them in Canada last year and was amazed at how "stable" it makes the Putter head. I had wanted to get one fitted into my Gamer but struggled to find anyone in the UK who was offering this as a Service. Are you going to be stocking these Shafts Mike or if I ship one in from the States can you Guys retrofit it onto my Putter??
@@tbGTR Many thanks for the info that is very kind of you. I had been hoping to find someone a little nearer to me in Manchester, so I'm just considering my options. I may leave changing shafts until the winter. as I tend to panic if I'm without any of my Gamers during the season.
@@banditbaker1675 i am one of the fitters there and do putter fittings daily. we have the stability shaft to test wether you like the feel and capto system to see if you get good results. feel free to book in and ask for me (tom) if you fancy it anytime. cheers
I'm glad there's a question mark in the title. The vast majority of people could change everything by working on their stroke and learning to fit the sweets spot two times in a row. Not being mean but it would be time well spent.
Haaa, I was thinking similarly.... Like, ok, even I wouldn't continuously keep leaving the putt short and left. And the grouping with the stability shaft was worse, even after getting to see how the ball is rolling so many times first. I wanted to be sold on this concept but this video didn't convince me.
Mike how did you get on regulating swing weight for your playing length of 36” imagine it would have gone up quite a lot? I’m considering getting one of these to fit the same spec as you but worried about this?
Hi Michael. I’ve watched this several times now and I’m very interested in purchasing this shaft but in the new tour version. I was wondering if you are still playing the stability shaft or have you changed back to a traditional putter shaft. As it’s a year ago since you did this I figured it would be a good time to ask for your feedback and an update. Thanks
I have an old Taylormade Rossa that has a similar thing but only from the grip down about 10”. It was owned by a friend who was a tour pro then went on to work for Taylormade in the US. I guess this isn’t a new idea. Yours sounded very tinny when you changed it. 🤔
A putting lesson would benefit you more I feel. Backswing stroke to short compared to your thru stroke but hey maybe a new shaft just makes you feel better
This shaft is going to make an especially large difference in those PING putters. PING has some of the flimsiest putter shafts in the business for whatever reason.
The Odyssey Stroke Lab putters are amazing. I thought you had to send your putter out for them to fit the stability shaft to your putter head. Watching you do it yourself was news to me. Anyways I appreciate the video and reconfirming I made the right choice going with Odyssey. I actually shot a 35 on a par 36 for my very first time on the front 9 at 3120 yards. I owe that all to my putter. the back 9 I came back to reality.
How on Earth can a steel shaft "flex" when you're striking the ball at probably no more than 5 mph?? Baffling.... Also is this supposed to work for face balanced putters? And what about centre shafted putters? Just can't get my head around the claims being made.
The flex part confused me as well. The torque claim is more plausible, whether it can be proved, I am not so sure about. But as I manage to test most parts of my putter head in the course of a round I would be interested in trying it out - just not with my current putter!
Not sure it's actually going to make any difference worth Investing in. It still leaves the steel shaft at the bottom and with the weight of the shaft being above it, more stress will be on that section of steel left by the head. I can also hear the ball skidding when you hit it which isn't convincing. Good video but not impressed with the tech.
wow put another 250 in putter i have to carry a weapon with me be scared someone rob me with such a high dollar putter.I have to putt better cause i have the best money could buy putter
I question the retro fit requirement of glueing the existing shaft into the stability shaft. Had it been a full shaft I'd embrace the new idea, the weakest point will be the glue so I think with respect that it's just marketing b******t. Improve the consistency of your stroke and learn to read greens properly ( I struggle).
I thought this was stupid and just another made up piece of golf equipment that claims to make you a better golfer. Then I tried one and it's the real deal. My putting game has improved 50% and today I shot a 35 on the front 9 (6600 yards). I made 16 puts in 9 holes including a 25 footer on the 9th hole to make par. I'm an 11 handicap and hit my drives 250. If you are a serious golfer you want to get one of these.
Nah! Not a ‘breakthrough’ at all, Not even a good result, most were still short so either hit it harder or whatever, I suspect it will ‘feel’ more solid giving more consistency and confidence but that’s all, won’t make a poor putting golfer into a better one on this evidence. That said I’m going to see what I can do to make mine heavier 😂
Mark Vickers its cheaper than just about all driver shaft though, and I definitely use putter twice as much as my driver. Well that’s what I’ve talked into myself into wanting to change anyway. Ha
What a load of rubbish. He hits some balls, then hits some more with new shaft. If he hadn't changed the shaft you would expect to get nearer as he kept practicing the same length. If it was worse he blamed himself. What awful product review. I think he sells them.😂
I had my Newport 2 fitted with it about 3 months ago. I saw an immediate difference on the practice green hitting 10, 20 and 30 feet putts, nothing more than a 2 putt with a good percentage of 1 putts. When I took it on course I reduced my putts per round by between 4 to 6 although I need a lot more rounds to be certain that those figures hold up. It is a completely different feel in the hand, feeling excuse the pun, much more stable and I like it. I spent a lot of money on a good driver that suits my game and play it on average 14 times a round. It makes perfect sense for me to invest in the putter where I have the potential to see the most gains. I would encourage people to try this.
Curios are u still loving it?
@@jimmyp6049 yes I still love the putter, if I was making the change today I would take the new version of the stability shaft as I think the profile has improved, although I have not used it. I may at some point change my putter but would still change out the shaft to a stability shaft.
@@garycumberland8089 Thanks . I have a Bettinardi being built by Club Champion and I just made the plunge for
The Tour all black limited edition . I like that it’s not as thick as the original . Let’s say u wanted to keep ur shaft could u transfer it to another putter ? Or is it a whole new buying process ? I realize u wanna change but I’m curious 4 years down the road if I ever switched putters would I need to buy the stability shaft again . Thanks for the response .
@@jimmyp6049 I’m not sure I believe you should be able to move it as you can do with an iron shaft it held with the old shaft glued inside the stability. Enjoy it I’m certain you will
This is basically the same concept as Wilson had in their Fatshaft irons. That worked very well creating more stability on off-centre hits.
just used one for about 10 rounds.
i made more short putts for sure. it really really made the swing weight go down not up or or at least i could not feel the head at all, basically anything outside of 10 feet i could not judge distance at all......i added 10 inches of lead tape felt like i needed 10 more inches at least.
I have this putter. the shaft on it is unusual in that it has no taper so the grip can slide up and down the shaft and be adjustable for length. Thus it is a very flexible as the small diameter of the lower shaft is the same diameter all the way through the grip. I like this putter and putt well with it but i have a smooth transition back to forward. but on long putts that maybe hit slightly off center can definitely feel the shaft twisting.
As Michael said its kind of a permanent change cutting your shaft and installing the stability shaft.
and after not having the best experience with a stroke lab putter that has the same kind of carbon shaft
I'll be looking foreword to a further review of your experience with this Michael.
Thanks
I had this shaft installed on my Evnroll ER2. Sent it to their HQ in Texas, Trever set me up with 3 deg flat lie and 44 degrees toe down! Comes new from Evnroll with 22 degrees toe down.
Loving the 44 degrees toe down, helps my strong arc stroke ! This putter is a beast. I have the 285 gram heavier head which Evnroll doesn’t even offer anymore.
So are u still gaming the stability shaft ? How’s it been going if so ?
I can but into he idea that this shaft would influence the feel of a putter but the idea that a conventional putter has so much twist that a different shaft construction would influence accuracy is a little over the top.
Considering that the face angle of a putter needs to be less than 1 degree open/closed to make an 8ft putt, I don't think it's as over the top as you think.
I had a similar shaft in dogleg right putter years ago. True temper made it
I’ve had the stability shaft with Ping head in the bag for about 1.5 months and love it. Very stable and surprisingly good feel. Putting improving as well.
Played 36 holes the other day and I really enjoyed the feel and stable feel
The TXG channel has done a bit with this shaft in putters, including a mention of it in putters in their latest witb video!
I’ve got one of these cannot rate it highly enough! Stopped me buying loads of putters searching for the answer!
Placebo effect. What's happening is you've paid a fortune for a stick and ruined your putter and you don't want to admit it was a mistake so you've convinced yourself it's all been worth it.
Are u still gaming it? Looking to make the plunge .
@@jimmyp6049 yes, I’d try and try one first as they are not cheap.
I guess everyone misses the point of the shaft. If you hit your putt off center on your normal steel shaft it will be off line. Heel will go left, toe will go right because of the torque and twist the ball will put on the head and shaft. With the stability shaft the torque is reduced. Off center hits will still track a whole lot straighter and stay on line more consistently. If you paid attention he clearly hit a putt off the toe and it tracked exactly to the hole still. That’s what this shaft is for, it’s not a magic wand.
Well said matthew
using one for a couple of months and loving it
Played 36 holes using since I filmed this video so had chance to get a feel for it more. Really like it.
I tried them in Canada last year and was amazed at how "stable" it makes the Putter head. I had wanted to get one fitted into my Gamer but struggled to find anyone in the UK who was offering this as a Service.
Are you going to be stocking these Shafts Mike or if I ship one in from the States can you Guys retrofit it onto my Putter??
Email oliver@ottgolf.com as he has the distribution of Stability Shafts in the UK. He’ll be able to provide you all the info. 👍
Cheers Mike that is Superb, I will drop Oliver a note. I hope that you are getting on well with the Stability Shaft?
Precision Golf in surrey stock and fit these
@@tbGTR Many thanks for the info that is very kind of you. I had been hoping to find someone a little nearer to me in Manchester, so I'm just considering my options. I may leave changing shafts until the winter. as I tend to panic if I'm without any of my Gamers during the season.
@@banditbaker1675 i am one of the fitters there and do putter fittings daily. we have the stability shaft to test wether you like the feel and capto system to see if you get good results. feel free to book in and ask for me (tom) if you fancy it anytime. cheers
I'm glad there's a question mark in the title. The vast majority of people could change everything by working on their stroke and learning to fit the sweets spot two times in a row. Not being mean but it would be time well spent.
After each of the first 8 went left, I'd have aimed a bit further right on the 9th 😉
User error!! 🙈
Haaa, I was thinking similarly.... Like, ok, even I wouldn't continuously keep leaving the putt short and left. And the grouping with the stability shaft was worse, even after getting to see how the ball is rolling so many times first. I wanted to be sold on this concept but this video didn't convince me.
Is the original shaft an adjustable length set-up? And if so, can you re-use the ping grip and shaft without to much hassle?
Mike how did you get on regulating swing weight for your playing length of 36” imagine it would have gone up quite a lot? I’m considering getting one of these to fit the same spec as you but worried about this?
Very Keen to try it.
It seems
To make so much sense
seems like you'd want that stability shaft as low as possible on the old shaft, cause you still have a bit of shaft below that (apparently) flexes
This is the way to fit the stability as per their instructions.
Hi Michael. I’ve watched this several times now and I’m very interested in purchasing this shaft but in the new tour version. I was wondering if you are still playing the stability shaft or have you changed back to a traditional putter shaft. As it’s a year ago since you did this I figured it would be a good time to ask for your feedback and an update.
Thanks
Still use it Tony, like it
@@MichaelNewtonGolf The steel had a much more consistent ball pattern than the bgt by a noticeable margin.
Didn't get one put to the hole until the 13th try?!? That's pretty bad
I have an old Taylormade Rossa that has a similar thing but only from the grip down about 10”. It was owned by a friend who was a tour pro then went on to work for Taylormade in the US. I guess this isn’t a new idea. Yours sounded very tinny when you changed it. 🤔
Came back later after the install and the grass grew and left them all short.
A putting lesson would benefit you more I feel. Backswing stroke to short compared to your thru stroke but hey maybe a new shaft just makes you feel better
I bet your deceleration through impact works great.
We want to know if its gonna help with the short putts not the lag putts 🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️
Was that really your gamer??? I get upset with my putter at times too but this took it to another level!
Yep my actual gamer, when you play a handful of times a year the decision to saw your shaft in half is a pretty easy one! 😂
@@MichaelNewtonGolf HAHAHA!!!!
18 putts almost all short, either shaft. Maybe a tad better dispersion..?
Are u still playing the shaft a year later ?
This shaft is going to make an especially large difference in those PING putters. PING has some of the flimsiest putter shafts in the business for whatever reason.
The Odyssey Stroke Lab putters are amazing. I thought you had to send your putter out for them to fit the stability shaft to your putter head. Watching you do it yourself was news to me. Anyways I appreciate the video and reconfirming I made the right choice going with Odyssey. I actually shot a 35 on a par 36 for my very first time on the front 9 at 3120 yards. I owe that all to my putter. the back 9 I came back to reality.
Stability shaft and stroke lab are definitely different but the benefits of graphite sections in putter shafts can definitely help
Obviously, every tour pro would be riding this bat; if a great or near great improvement could be derived.
How about just dont miss hit your putts
Like a robot 😅
It’s too bad they haven’t figured out a way to reuse it on another putter. Can you get it off without melting the shaft?
You should be able to heat up using a heat gun to remove. This won’t damage the shaft
How on Earth can a steel shaft "flex" when you're striking the ball at probably no more than 5 mph?? Baffling....
Also is this supposed to work for face balanced putters? And what about centre shafted putters?
Just can't get my head around the claims being made.
The flex part confused me as well. The torque claim is more plausible, whether it can be proved, I am not so sure about. But as I manage to test most parts of my putter head in the course of a round I would be interested in trying it out - just not with my current putter!
It's bollocks ! The average golfer is a cash cow.
least you cut above the balance point of the shaft so you dont destroy a putter even it dont help you not lost nothing but few hundred dollars
Just when you think you’ve seen it all in golf along comes this........ flex on a putter shaft maybe if you’re using it from the tee.
100% it flexes
The shaft, and the supposed technology behind it, seems like utter bullenscheisse to me, really. Spend your money more wisely.
It appeared your dispersion with the steel shaft was better. Sorry. I can't see it being worth $200.
Good point, was just being polite.
🤣🤣🤣 I simply can’t stop laughing.
Not sure it's actually going to make any difference worth Investing in. It still leaves the steel shaft at the bottom and with the weight of the shaft being above it, more stress will be on that section of steel left by the head. I can also hear the ball skidding when you hit it which isn't convincing. Good video but not impressed with the tech.
So Michael, after 2 years, do you still use this putter shaft?
No I’ve changed the putter completely as found a head I prefer
wow put another 250 in putter i have to carry a weapon with me be scared someone rob me with such a high dollar putter.I have to putt better cause i have the best money could buy putter
Not even a sniff 😢
I question the retro fit requirement of glueing the existing shaft into the stability shaft.
Had it been a full shaft I'd embrace the new idea, the weakest point will be the glue so
I think with respect that it's just marketing b******t. Improve the consistency of your
stroke and learn to read greens properly ( I struggle).
5.48
It does what over the head 😝
Is this April the 1st ,low torque extra stiff putter shaft ? Lol .I suppose some people will buy anything .
I thought this was stupid and just another made up piece of golf equipment that claims to make you a better golfer. Then I tried one and it's the real deal. My putting game has improved 50% and today I shot a 35 on the front 9 (6600 yards). I made 16 puts in 9 holes including a 25 footer on the 9th hole to make par. I'm an 11 handicap and hit my drives 250. If you are a serious golfer you want to get one of these.
Are u still
Gaming it and loving it ? I’m liking at the Tour Blacked out version. Thanks
Nah! Not a ‘breakthrough’ at all, Not even a good result, most were still short so either hit it harder or whatever, I suspect it will ‘feel’ more solid giving more consistency and confidence but that’s all, won’t make a poor putting golfer into a better one on this evidence. That said I’m going to see what I can do to make mine heavier 😂
well, money saved lol
I think your putter shaft was fine, you just need glasses so you can see better
can I borrow yours Tommy?
@@MichaelNewtonGolf spent all your money on that fancy shaft?
The results were Shite mate
Another gimmick
Get a little closer buddy idk if u know this but u made No putts on a putting video reviewing a product!
Just buy a spider x takes all the skill out of the game, it holes everything.
Speed foam, turbulators, air slots etc etc all nonsense, now add to the smoke 'n mirrors Stability shaft.
Glad you reviewed it, but utterly laughable.
For 200 dollars I’d expect to 1 putt every green.
Mark Vickers its cheaper than just about all driver shaft though, and I definitely use putter twice as much as my driver. Well that’s what I’ve talked into myself into wanting to change anyway. Ha
So I suppose you hit every fairway with your driver right? Putting is 43% game, wakeup!
I don't buy into this putter shaft to be honest, especially given the huge cost.
What a load of rubbish. He hits some balls, then hits some more with new shaft. If he hadn't changed the shaft you would expect to get nearer as he kept practicing the same length. If it was worse he blamed himself. What awful product review. I think he sells them.😂