The Strongest Versions Of Son Goku

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  • Опубліковано 20 лип 2024
  • This video, I explain How strong is Xeno Goku, CC Goku, Jump Force Goku, Dragon Ball GT Goku, Dragon Ball Z Goku, Dragon Ball Super Goku, and God Fusion Goku True Power. If you enjoy this video scaling Comp Goku Please like and subscribe!
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  • @ToasterXD
    @ToasterXD  Рік тому +88

    POWER SCALE FROM: youtube.com/@1officialdivine1
    www.tiktok.com/@officialdivinee?_t=8YWerPWPRYg&_r=1

    • @missyummy1040
      @missyummy1040 Рік тому

      How much for a Medaka Kurokami Vs Perfect Cell?

    • @ToasterXD
      @ToasterXD  Рік тому +1

      @@missyummy1040 10-$15 I’ll have to double check lots of stuff for that, I’m familiar with Medaka but I’m sure I could do it

    • @missyummy1040
      @missyummy1040 Рік тому

      @@ToasterXD would 20 be ok?

    • @ToasterXD
      @ToasterXD  Рік тому

      @@missyummy1040if you’re willing to send that, that’d be awesome. It’ll be up next week most likely

    • @missyummy1040
      @missyummy1040 Рік тому

      @@ToasterXD can I have a link to your cash app or something?

  • @personahearts358
    @personahearts358 Рік тому +1517

    This video gave a new definition to “Can he beat Goku though?”

    • @thataintfalco5136
      @thataintfalco5136 Рік тому +148

      Ain’t nobody beating goku

    • @ryanworlddatboss7109
      @ryanworlddatboss7109 Рік тому +39

      @@thataintfalco5136 bruh even that ain't true SUPER MAAAAAN is broken as hell in some versions some can CONTROL PLOT rendering all feats useless and not applicable

    • @Quaysxl
      @Quaysxl Рік тому +109

      @@ryanworlddatboss7109 did we also tell you this version of goku can still kill people who can control time and plot and more.

    • @ryanworlddatboss7109
      @ryanworlddatboss7109 Рік тому +19

      @@Quaysxl bruh ain't no way I wish someone told me that before I made that comment now I feel stupid HOWEVER there must be atleast ONE version of superMAAAAN that can beat him if not I yield

    • @Quaysxl
      @Quaysxl Рік тому +27

      @@ryanworlddatboss7109 lol we still waiting on dbs se2 tho lol.

  • @Dawg477
    @Dawg477 Рік тому +772

    The scaling for GT is weird, since there’s a lot of Lifting/Destruction feats but not any notable Attack potency feats.

    • @godspeedforce9371
      @godspeedforce9371 Рік тому +66

      In my opinion
      Its easy to scale

    • @Universal_Toxicinity
      @Universal_Toxicinity Рік тому +45

      Sometimes the calculations are crazy too

    • @ToasterXD
      @ToasterXD  Рік тому +141

      Gt can be weird to powerscale I won’t even hold you on that haha

    • @cantstopbrock
      @cantstopbrock Рік тому +13

      Yi Xing Long’s Minus Energy Power Ball being made up of all of his Minus Energy makes it and Gogeta instantly purifying it a direct AP feat (the Ball would scale to the end-result of Yi’s destruction). There’s also Base Goku casually Shaking Hell which would be a quantifiable AP feat but not really impressive for Goku at that point. Goku also destroyed a pocket dimension but it was already collapsing and unquantifiable in size.
      Really what GT moreso impresses me by is it’s in-verse scaling; like Pan surpassing Lood & SS Goku (vs Lood; even if he was suppressed), Base Goku by the time he fights Bebi can easily be argued to be thousands of times stronger than Z Vegetto & you can legit argue Base Gohan (S17 & SD Arcs) to be comparable to the likes of Majuub/Super Bebi 2. It ain’t DBS ToP Anime ridiculous but still.

    • @Giose
      @Giose Рік тому +1

      What's the difference between Attack Potency and Destruction feats?

  • @tatendamuwori7098
    @tatendamuwori7098 Рік тому +273

    And the scarier thing is he keeps getting stronger 💀

    • @rvght_
      @rvght_ Рік тому +20

      facts bro is just gonna be unbeatable at this point 💀💀

    • @DahMFmoi
      @DahMFmoi Рік тому +2

      Only if it was canon

    • @dumflame
      @dumflame Рік тому +6

      @@DahMFmoi kinda
      I guess different timeline or smt like that

    • @levig3576
      @levig3576 Рік тому +2

      I remember when ui first came around and people actually thought he was unbeatable

    • @wasifchowdhury2004
      @wasifchowdhury2004 9 місяців тому +1

      @@levig3576 When SSJ came out we also thought he was unbeatable

  • @NoVeilShow
    @NoVeilShow Рік тому +376

    BRO you’re hitting on a lot of the topics I’ve wanted DB scalers to touch on but haven’t. Keep up with the Heroes scaling and more obscure forms and rare scaling, I feel like these cool outside sources get nearly no love in the scaling community. Keep killin it bruv🙏

    • @ToasterXD
      @ToasterXD  Рік тому +26

      More to come!

    • @GodslayerSeiya
      @GodslayerSeiya Рік тому +1

      The Heroes scaling in this is false especially for the main continuity the arcade and all he is doing is mixing all different continuities. Fans outside of Japan clearly don't know much about Heroes.

    • @mauricejohnson2351
      @mauricejohnson2351 Рік тому +12

      @@GodslayerSeiya you do know all heros media is canon to each other and xenoverse trunks made an appearance in hero. And fusions, fighters and even fucking dokkan is canon in heros right?

    • @GodslayerSeiya
      @GodslayerSeiya Рік тому +1

      @@mauricejohnson2351 fasle typical a fan who doesn't have any actual information sorry buddy that's wrong. I cover Heroes on my channel and translate Japanese, i been following the series since it's debut in 2010 and both Heroes producer and Xenoverse producer confirmed in the SDBH 8th anniversary guide they have no connection and are different continuities. The only thing they use is the backstory lore from DB Online that's it nothing more. I have this on my channel SDBH information guide clearly you lack real information since you don't have any access to the guidebooks. Which is released every year for Hereos anniversarys.

    • @GodslayerSeiya
      @GodslayerSeiya Рік тому

      @@mkchable for one mixing continuities that's false and second feats he stated have never happened in the main SDBH continuity which is the arcade.
      A bit of advice if you want to get real information about Hereos I cover it on my channel and I translate Japanese. I have real facts and information from the guidebooks, Bandai producer Higuchi Wataru and many others.

  • @kaijazakora6644
    @kaijazakora6644 Рік тому +206

    I did not know Goku was this strong. Good lord.

    • @truexchaosx6099
      @truexchaosx6099 Рік тому +9

      Comes in versions

    • @supersoaker317
      @supersoaker317 Рік тому +8

      These are some of the versions and very much highballed versions of the character. On top of that xeno goku isn't outerversal he is high complex multiversal but if you want to highball him you could say outerversal

    • @mult1versal
      @mult1versal Рік тому +43

      @@supersoaker317 he’s outer

    • @supersoaker317
      @supersoaker317 Рік тому +2

      @@mult1versal debatable

    • @mult1versal
      @mult1versal Рік тому +24

      @@supersoaker317 not debatable he is

  • @KaiZenKDP
    @KaiZenKDP Рік тому +27

    'He'd just be real' might be my favourite scaling video quote of all time bro lmao

  • @Dandaigaa
    @Dandaigaa Рік тому +268

    Goku being fused with us??
    Damn hoeku looking cool 💀

    • @dragonsmoke16418
      @dragonsmoke16418 Рік тому +29

      Outta line

    • @BionicleLegoEnjoyer
      @BionicleLegoEnjoyer Рік тому +6

      @DarkMenmawrld yeah his too weak

    • @overpoweredbeamsfather3297
      @overpoweredbeamsfather3297 Рік тому +35

      @@BionicleLegoEnjoyer too strong for you, you can't even lift a brick💀☠

    • @BionicleLegoEnjoyer
      @BionicleLegoEnjoyer Рік тому

      @@overpoweredbeamsfather3297 bruh ur sperm can solo anime wdym we are not stupid fictional characters or do you believe anime exists in real life if you do that would make sense am talking to an insane person so am not gonna even try have an argument with you

    • @BionicleLegoEnjoyer
      @BionicleLegoEnjoyer Рік тому

      @@overpoweredbeamsfather3297 also I lifted a brick with my dick before when I was bored

  • @negative563
    @negative563 Рік тому +188

    We all learned one thing today...
    GOKU SOLOS!

  • @myusername3689
    @myusername3689 Рік тому +258

    Imagine if Ultra Instincts multiplier was the power level of the user, basically for example: Someone with a power level of 1,000,000 would get boosted 1,000,000x in power by Ultra Instinct. Now Imagine composite Goku with Ultra Instinct.

    • @bottlemanepic3781
      @bottlemanepic3781 Рік тому +24

      That would be way too op

    • @scrub5808
      @scrub5808 Рік тому +29

      You would get base form vegito/gogeta

    • @drypoop3832
      @drypoop3832 Рік тому

      @@bottlemanepic3781 Ong

    • @shodeangelica4375
      @shodeangelica4375 Рік тому

      @S Shining Shining bro I'm seeing you here ☠

    • @TrailBlazerEditzSubPls
      @TrailBlazerEditzSubPls Рік тому +10

      Sorry to break it to you, but the official multiplier for UI has been released and oh boy, I am disappointed as f*ck. Because it is only 3x, yes 3 f*cking times a person's strongest form. Meaning that if Goku only has Super Saiyan, his UI wouldn't even scale up to Super Saiyan 3.

  • @ten-thousandbees8453
    @ten-thousandbees8453 Рік тому +47

    I normally just call that version of Goku "You-Ku" since he's just YOU fused with Goku.

  • @rsfakqj10rsf-33
    @rsfakqj10rsf-33 Рік тому +26

    This video showcases that a character's power is unimportant, it is the length of that series that matters, because eventually every long going series will just have a broken version of their characters.

  • @holpiks8200
    @holpiks8200 Рік тому +35

    W opinion on GT Goku, he's vastly underrated by community.

    • @omnijonn277
      @omnijonn277 6 місяців тому +1

      I find it wierd how no one mentioned he fought a trained cell and Frieza in hell in base

  • @dsm2417
    @dsm2417 Рік тому +131

    I don’t think gt is above Xeno, cc or jp Goku. All of these scale above many layers in existence and scale beyond gt itself which is also within the cosmology that Demigra was gonna destroy

    • @ToasterXD
      @ToasterXD  Рік тому +91

      I’m not ranking them in order. I’m just saying them

    • @dsm2417
      @dsm2417 Рік тому +7

      @@ToasterXD oh okay bet

    • @TheUncivilizedNation
      @TheUncivilizedNation Рік тому +1

      Xeno Goku was from the Gt timeline

    • @kklightning5693
      @kklightning5693 Рік тому +3

      @@TheUncivilizedNationhe’s not

    • @Bleachisthegreatestanime
      @Bleachisthegreatestanime 11 місяців тому

      @@ToasterXDyou kinda forgot xeno goku from game,he’s way stronger than CC goku and has insane amount of haxs.Very op.
      The manga and anime version doesn’t compare to xeno goku,he is basically OP.

  • @jordanglasper1064
    @jordanglasper1064 Рік тому +32

    This was Phenomenal. Also love the fusion reborn song. It fits for a suitable theme fill in for SSJ3 Goku. Still got major love for his original one!!!

  • @ajhudson3991
    @ajhudson3991 Рік тому +32

    You could argue that since xeno goku went through the events of gt that would mean xeno goku would be the same goku that fused with the dragon balls at the end of gt

    • @drico2688
      @drico2688 Рік тому +2

      Nahhh but that's true

    • @tentaplayz3691
      @tentaplayz3691 Рік тому +1

      He wasn't scaling in order but yeah pretty much

    • @omnijonn277
      @omnijonn277 6 місяців тому +1

      I won't say he is because EoGT Goku appeared to have the same clothes at the 100 years.

  • @theautisticbeaver4885
    @theautisticbeaver4885 Рік тому +131

    GT was a pretty good show, it had a few bumps (super 17 arc) but outside of that it was really a good resolution. no "my numbers are higher than yours" in every single fight. there wasnt 5 billion recolor transformations. goku despite being a child was more mature and had clearly grown. super just feels like its afraid to end

    • @ToasterXD
      @ToasterXD  Рік тому +24

      I personally dont like GT but enjoyed the ending very much. Respect ur opinion tho 🤟

    • @Void23321
      @Void23321 Рік тому +3

      I disagree, but still respect your opinion. SSJ4 is cool, but the first arc and most of the Super 17/Shadow Dragon Arc just bored me.
      + If GT was it’s own standalone show, the ending would not be that good.
      This is just my opinion, we all have different ones. I still respect yours though.

    • @theautisticbeaver4885
      @theautisticbeaver4885 Рік тому +6

      @@Void23321 I he first arc was actually pretty good, you should rewatch it along with the shadow dragon saga. It’s a lot better than most people remember. Try to go into it without thinking about what the UA-camrs told you.

    • @ThatDragonGuy
      @ThatDragonGuy Рік тому

      Trash take.

    • @theautisticbeaver4885
      @theautisticbeaver4885 Рік тому

      @@ThatDragonGuy ok super fanboy

  • @harshsinghania8367
    @harshsinghania8367 Рік тому +47

    I enjoyed your explanations alot and you just earned a new subscriber! Also even if we low ball god fusion Goku as you said it still makes comp Goku so overpowered, kinda get why people say Goku solos now lol

    • @tentaplayz3691
      @tentaplayz3691 Рік тому +2

      Bro finally understands..

    • @kiddeath8883
      @kiddeath8883 11 місяців тому +1

      characters from Dc & Marvel versus plus the SCP verse & H.P Lovecraft verse all got characters That Goku can’t touch no matter what version of Goku you choose. He is strong tho but Forsure no where near the strongest.

    • @24k_twan
      @24k_twan 7 місяців тому +1

      @@tentaplayz3691 🤣🤣🤣ong

    • @amvjin6760
      @amvjin6760 5 місяців тому +1

      @@kiddeath8883 Yeah and goku hasn't reached his limits yet...

    • @kiddeath8883
      @kiddeath8883 5 місяців тому

      @@amvjin6760 true, & I love that Goku just keeps getting stronger breaking boundaries

  • @4orty5ive
    @4orty5ive Рік тому +16

    I’m liking the content bro glad to see more power scalers that know what they are talking about

  • @ultimatemastergamer9017
    @ultimatemastergamer9017 Рік тому +8

    Love the video, you actually gave evidence and statements which prove your Point. Keep up the great work!

  • @snookchop5293
    @snookchop5293 Рік тому +4

    Thank you for finally covering these versions of Goku 😁😁😁

  • @pranammm
    @pranammm Рік тому +38

    Your one of the best up and coming power scalers. Your takes have solid evidence and make tons of sense. Keep it up bro, I can see that 100k plaque comimg up

    • @ToasterXD
      @ToasterXD  Рік тому +6

      I appreciate that

    • @slattslattslatt
      @slattslattslatt Рік тому +1

      This nn is a terrible scaler. Almost as bad as seth

    • @saitama5219
      @saitama5219 Рік тому

      @@slattslattslatt tf up nigga

    • @slattslattslatt
      @slattslattslatt Рік тому

      @@saitama5219 ur a nn talking shit. go od, no one would care as ur a random with 0 reputation

    • @saitama5219
      @saitama5219 Рік тому

      @@slattslattslatt and what are u? Mf ur just as random as me.Now go bitch somewhere else

  • @Themasterjtg
    @Themasterjtg Рік тому +6

    God Fusion Goku hits an opponent with the "You ain't real" and negating everything they try to do, purely because he knows they're fiction and he's "real" would be raw

  • @GRANDMALICE
    @GRANDMALICE Рік тому +5

    Your powerscaling is entertaining to listen to. Keep going man.

  • @rizzler_certified
    @rizzler_certified Рік тому +52

    3:21 Now we are going to start scaling the broken op Goku
    Like any of the other copies WEREN"T STRONG ENOUGH TO WIPE 89 % of fiction...

    • @User_Here414
      @User_Here414 Рік тому +2

      That's what I was thinking when he said that

    • @slattslattslatt
      @slattslattslatt Рік тому +2

      Goku can't even wipe 50% of fiction. Majority of ln verses out there stomp every anime and then there's also lots of indie comics and novels that are the same way

    • @dancooke8811
      @dancooke8811 Рік тому

      Nah man Goku is too stupid to Solo all of AnimeVerses!

    • @rizzler_certified
      @rizzler_certified Рік тому +4

      @@menmaUCGJRNSTZGw9YzsQMg9-RlyQ Even if you burn the pages there still exists a finite copies of him in other's hands and how can you erase him he is literally in your brain (you can't just forget something that you've know for so much years).

    • @rizzler_certified
      @rizzler_certified Рік тому +4

      @@slattslattslatt If normal dbs manga goku is 2-B or 2-A. So he does kinda solo 70 % of fiction :/
      There is not only one genre in fiction. Like most other shows they don't have feats of anything close to fighting(romance and etc.). Or they are just too low to be even scaled close to Goku. Go research before making statements

  • @locosword3985
    @locosword3985 Рік тому +23

    I love how Jump Force Goku is one of the strongest versions of Goku, i’m scared for Jump force 2 since he’d obviously be far stronger.

  • @nomus1172
    @nomus1172 Рік тому +86

    The thing about it is that goku can’t even solo his own verse

    • @ToasterXD
      @ToasterXD  Рік тому +62

      Fax

    • @gokubreathesmidtama
      @gokubreathesmidtama Рік тому +32

      Then that just means no one can beat goku's verse

    • @gokubreathesmidtama
      @gokubreathesmidtama Рік тому +19

      @@djbabyboi3556 bland mc lmao. The only reason why opm is popular is because of how strong he is.

    • @gokubreathesmidtama
      @gokubreathesmidtama Рік тому +16

      @@djbabyboi3556 no not at all

    • @fatdurk7934
      @fatdurk7934 Рік тому +26

      @@djbabyboi3556db before goku was even ssj was already the most popular manga before one piece. So goku being popular because he is strong is wrong asf

  • @DKYT84
    @DKYT84 Рік тому +2

    I'm loving this channel

  • @scrumt9284
    @scrumt9284 Рік тому +3

    9:00 “Or he would just be… real.” I fucking can’t that’s fucking hilarious.

  • @HakiKingEntertainment
    @HakiKingEntertainment Рік тому +20

    Someone needs to make a video on how strong the other Yamchas are, it is needed

  • @zeno_xy9669
    @zeno_xy9669 Рік тому +11

    I've seen way too many tiktokers that low-ball both Xeno and Cc Goku way too much, they be saying he's hyper at most😭🙏

    • @azmainzawad8815
      @azmainzawad8815 Рік тому +4

      They high complex multiversal at most

    • @zeno_xy9669
      @zeno_xy9669 Рік тому

      @@azmainzawad8815 They aren't

    • @mustardwithglasses6508
      @mustardwithglasses6508 Рік тому +1

      @@zeno_xy9669 they are

    • @danielleee-cp4dx
      @danielleee-cp4dx Рік тому +1

      @@zeno_xy9669 they freakin are no way there high outerversal you know who else is high outer akuto sai and Lucifer Morningstar he is not on there level

    • @kingsalman8907
      @kingsalman8907 Рік тому +5

      ​@@danielleee-cp4dx Bro don't just hit me with this bullshit, he scaled xeno goku infront of you debunk it if you don't believe

  • @Tom..........
    @Tom.......... Рік тому +15

    And there still exist people said Saitama claps Goku💀

    • @lordadz1615
      @lordadz1615 6 місяців тому

      Lmao yeah xpeople in the comments I could find their comments saying saitama would destroy. At most I see saitama at galaxy lvl but more realistically its multi solar system lvl

  • @rockmanfan5104
    @rockmanfan5104 Рік тому +1

    Nailed it. Very interesting

  • @pariahpariah7048
    @pariahpariah7048 Рік тому +7

    Goodness gracious, I've never really considered how powerful Goku is my word, thanks for this video.

  • @uboa8060
    @uboa8060 Рік тому +3

    This is why I hate powerscaling. People need to learn math, physics, and philosophy, 'cause the whole "dimensional tiering" thing violates the laws of mathematics and falls flat on it's face in so many ways.

    • @rationeextrema3776
      @rationeextrema3776 Рік тому +1

      Oh hey, someone else recognizes how nonsensical their use of dimensions and physics are. I barely know anything about those myself, but the way it's used in power scaling sounds very, very wrong to me.

    • @CoolOkay_
      @CoolOkay_ Рік тому +1

      What do you think powerscaling is? It's a hobby pursued for personal enjoyment. Fans find satisfaction in rationalizing the power and narrative of their beloved characters through the lens of physics, philosophy, string theory, and other subjects. This precision brings them a sense of grounded comprehension regarding the characters' strength. While some individuals may use this knowledge to assert authority, such behavior is common in geeky communities. There will always be elitists striving to appear superior; it's an unavoidable aspect.

  • @Ishan_Singla
    @Ishan_Singla Рік тому +1

    Underrated as heck

  • @razorblade5939
    @razorblade5939 Рік тому

    Toaster I love watching ur videos cause u actually get how strong Goku is

  • @infiniteWorlds24
    @infiniteWorlds24 Рік тому +15

    Great video, would you ever scale Gt to Super in a video? People seem to not like what you said about it.

    • @ToasterXD
      @ToasterXD  Рік тому +6

      I have a video coming in about a week explaining the entirety of GT power scaling

    • @infiniteWorlds24
      @infiniteWorlds24 Рік тому

      @@ToasterXD Cool.

    • @Web720
      @Web720 Рік тому

      Hopefully he does GT vs Super Manga vs Super Anime.

  • @Saiyan295
    @Saiyan295 Рік тому +22

    So that mean the strongest goku is god fusion goku?

    • @suddenstorm7887
      @suddenstorm7887 Рік тому +6

      Yes

    • @willpenneth9407
      @willpenneth9407 Рік тому +11

      Well, the strongest Goku is Comp Goku. He has all if the powers, abilities, forms, feats, and whatever of every official Goku in official Dragon Ball manga, anime, games, and other stuff. God Fusion Goku is the strongest component of that Comp Goku, though.

    • @dontawilliams8433
      @dontawilliams8433 Рік тому

      No

  • @inthebandos
    @inthebandos Рік тому

    I love your videos bro❤❤❤

  • @fffuuuyyyuuu4475
    @fffuuuyyyuuu4475 Рік тому +1

    looking forward to you scaling GT

  • @ifrit220
    @ifrit220 Рік тому +7

    Concept of spacetime isnt always outer

    • @ifrit220
      @ifrit220 Рік тому +2

      You should ask and talk with other powerscalers with more experience they can teach you about dimensionality, outerversal scaling and mathematical scaling.

    • @ifrit220
      @ifrit220 Рік тому +2

      The first thing you need to learn about is dimensional tiering you can watch surfbone's video on dimensional tiering

    • @ssbetimmy5941
      @ssbetimmy5941 Рік тому

      That's not what I would say makes him outer it's his relativity to cc Goku and cc Goku absorbed the power of the universe tree which contains infinite dimensions and realities that are each transcendental of each other.

  • @godspeedforce9371
    @godspeedforce9371 Рік тому +152

    In my opinion, dbs goku is massively above GT goku.

    • @dsm2417
      @dsm2417 Рік тому +31

      Yea he is

    • @sladewarrior5562
      @sladewarrior5562 Рік тому +8

      i would agrue not but thats only because GT is AFTER the end of Z. Super is taking place before the 10 year timeskip of Z.

    • @godspeedforce9371
      @godspeedforce9371 Рік тому +66

      @@sladewarrior5562 both exist in different timelines.

    • @dsm2417
      @dsm2417 Рік тому +45

      @@sladewarrior5562 both are not the same timeline Akira stated it

    • @CertainlyCynical
      @CertainlyCynical Рік тому +1

      Well it’s true

  • @truebreakage9003
    @truebreakage9003 Рік тому

    I'm subbing I really like you

  • @deverboy7458
    @deverboy7458 Рік тому +2

    How are you doing this my man! Teach me your ways of going viral! Great vid btw😉 i've binge watched all ur vids

  • @Dawg477
    @Dawg477 Рік тому +13

    ToasterXD, do think Death Battles Xeno Trunks vs Archie Silver was accurate? Plus it had massive downplay of strength and speed feats, and Xeno Trunks hacks were downplayed hard, and so was the Keysword. But who do you think would win?

    • @godspeedforce9371
      @godspeedforce9371 Рік тому +3

      The conclusion was correct, but yes
      Both were downplayed in their abilities and their feats

    • @dsm2417
      @dsm2417 Рік тому +12

      @@godspeedforce9371 nah trunks should’ve won

    • @godspeedforce9371
      @godspeedforce9371 Рік тому +1

      @@dsm2417 not really
      Silver has many resistances and feats that place him above trunks.
      Silver having chaos energy would make the keysword useless and chaos energy is in an entirely different league than ki

    • @dsm2417
      @dsm2417 Рік тому +12

      @@godspeedforce9371 no it’s not. Xeno Trunks scales higher than high outerversal beings in his base form and with ssg and the keysword he has conceptual manipulation. Silver has no defenses on that

    • @godspeedforce9371
      @godspeedforce9371 Рік тому +2

      @@dsm2417 cool
      So does silver
      Trunks doesnt scale to xeno trunks or cc goku and only defeated mechikbura, while silver has fought super scourge and enerjak, who are both cofirmed to be stronger than super sonic.
      Super sonic was able to fight solaris, dark gaia, enerjak, master mogul.
      Super sonic also overpowered the super genesis wave, which eggman cofirmed to have no limits and Ian cofirmed that it destroyed the chaos force, which dwarves sdbh cosmology.
      Silver scales above conceptial beings, like solaris, dark gaia and enerjak

  • @FlicX
    @FlicX Рік тому +5

    this may sound weird but what if the super shenroon in super is actually goku that fused with the dragoon balls in GT🤔

  • @DiivahayzeCarmendella
    @DiivahayzeCarmendella Рік тому +1

    thank you for spitting fax for jump force goku and gt goku

  • @theworstchannelyouhaveever9573

    Idea for a video if you watch JoJo bizarre adventure. The Stone Ocean Squad vs La Squadra.

  • @itsamebenjamintennyson1230
    @itsamebenjamintennyson1230 Рік тому +5

    I think Jump force Goku could be High hyperverse to low outer verse level and high outer verse level with the marvel scaling, and if fusion Goku actually fused with the audience then he could probably be high outer verse level to boundless maybe, but I am not sure.
    I don't know if Jump Force Goku is boundless, because the real world in the story is still fictional.
    But he probably does scale above Tenchi and Madoka verse so he could be High hyperverse level to low outer verse level from what I know.
    You could scale him above some parts of the marvel cosmology too because of the Deadpool crossover with shonen jump so that could make Jump force Goku high outer verse level.

    • @ItsShowtime1924
      @ItsShowtime1924 Рік тому

      Naw he scales above a character who took over the yugioh verse which is an omniverse, and has outerversial characters in it. Some people even make a claim one of the monsters is omnipotent. He would be boundless base on this alone

    • @itsamebenjamintennyson1230
      @itsamebenjamintennyson1230 Рік тому

      @@ItsShowtime1924 Just adding a layer above outer verse level does not make it boundless.

    • @ItsShowtime1924
      @ItsShowtime1924 Рік тому +3

      @@itsamebenjamintennyson1230 No but transcending an outerversial verse does.
      The Villain in Jump force is able to corrupt and merge multiple stories in different continuities.
      The only people who has powers or authority over things like these are typically authors.
      Goku beat this dude in base.
      Hes Outer extreme lowball, and honestly easily boundless
      Hes

    • @itsamebenjamintennyson1230
      @itsamebenjamintennyson1230 Рік тому

      @@ItsShowtime1924 Adding a layer on Outerverse would be Outerverse level.

    • @dontawilliams8433
      @dontawilliams8433 Рік тому

      @@ItsShowtime1924 I don’t think goku beat
      promicous

  • @baxpgi
    @baxpgi Рік тому +4

    If gt had omnipotent wishes
    We still cant wish for tfs dubbing buu saga

  • @trystanrobinson7377
    @trystanrobinson7377 Рік тому

    Can you please make a video about minato vs kizaru just a video idea and I love your videos by the way

  • @brightburn2882
    @brightburn2882 Рік тому

    Could you do a Regulus Corneas (from Re: Zero) Vs Gojo? I saw a debate in the internet forum about this, needless to say it devolved into pure chaos as i was left with more questions than answers. I hope you see this.

  • @VIRTUALHORIZON-001
    @VIRTUALHORIZON-001 Рік тому +5

    He still a SCP, WOD and Cthulhu mythos victims.

    • @ToasterXD
      @ToasterXD  Рік тому +3

      can’t argue with that 🤷

    • @deadtheories4170
      @deadtheories4170 Рік тому +1

      Wouldn't he view those as fiction?

    • @VIRTUALHORIZON-001
      @VIRTUALHORIZON-001 Рік тому +1

      @@deadtheories4170 That's no-limit fallacy, even if it did it would count as an single R>F Trascendance, that is if we're conforming to VSBW cross-verse scaling rules, and again it would count as an no-limit fallacy on both sides.

  • @itsamebenjamintennyson1230
    @itsamebenjamintennyson1230 Рік тому +6

    I don't know if Xeno Goku would be high outer verse level.
    If I remember correctly concepts also have scaling so Xeno Goku could just be a higher dimensional character because of that.
    And the real world in fiction is also a fictional world so it would also just be a higher dimensional realm.
    I would say Xeno Goku is atleast 6D.

    • @ssbetimmy5941
      @ssbetimmy5941 Рік тому

      He's lowballed hyper he's 6d if you ignore every feat in hero's

    • @Kodeuk
      @Kodeuk 7 місяців тому

      I put xeno Goku at 7D-9D with Hyperversal arguments if u wanna put him there as well cuz I got the scans and arguments for that

  • @tommyg4842
    @tommyg4842 Рік тому +2

    5:45 music too distracting

  • @shinobiotaku3184
    @shinobiotaku3184 Рік тому

    this really gives a new light to things I mean me, and my friends would be debating who can beat who and I say Goku they say nah you caping I'm just going to pull out this video🤣😂

  • @Sunkistxo
    @Sunkistxo Рік тому +3

    You should do Game Sonic next. Due to him beating Jungian Archetypes such as NiGHTS (Tier 0 Beings that encompass the unciousness of all metaphysicality, thoughts and mythologies) making him high outversal to boundless just in base form. Furthermore, every other villain he fights is stronger than the previous one, with Infinite being the strongest Villan he's faced yet. (Each new villain dimensionally and infinitely transcends the last)

  • @Jokr_q
    @Jokr_q Рік тому +3

    *Misogi kumagawa enters the chat*

  • @iansahleen1173
    @iansahleen1173 Рік тому +1

    If I’m remembering correctly all of the Jump Force cast was at the same level as Goku at the end of the game so that means that we have Boundless Ryo Saeba with his verse soloing Colt Python .357 Magnum

  • @gamingtag8335
    @gamingtag8335 Рік тому +1

    Bro explained how strong goku is with good reason and proofs nice explanation

  • @silver_kage3154
    @silver_kage3154 Рік тому +3

    You should do Luffy vs Naruto. You and Seth are one of the only people I would agree with 100%

    • @ToasterXD
      @ToasterXD  Рік тому +2

      I will be doing a Big 3 VS Cell Saga Goku Soon. And I had a Naruto vs luffy video planned soon as I want to extend my audience to other animes as well

    • @silver_kage3154
      @silver_kage3154 Рік тому +2

      @@ToasterXD that would be interesting. But I think cell saga Goku is a bit overkill. Idk tho I'm no powerscaler

    • @slattslattslatt
      @slattslattslatt Рік тому

      Why would you agree with seth. He's awful at scaling and constantly ducks debates after talking shit

    • @danielleee-cp4dx
      @danielleee-cp4dx Рік тому

      Naruto one taps luffy

    • @SuyokaY
      @SuyokaY 11 місяців тому +1

      @@silver_kage3154 Sayian Saga goku or namek would be fair....

  • @morgothbauglir203
    @morgothbauglir203 Рік тому +4

    You literly said that Demigra would destroy only the history of DBH not the entire verse with it's concepts. Also the real world being on onother conceptual lair is not true most of the time unless if it's stated that it trancends the verse.

  • @bofi1280
    @bofi1280 Рік тому +1

    0:08 This outfit is so heat! I wish it was canon. 💯🔥

  • @poly_g6068
    @poly_g6068 3 місяці тому

    I love how the video starts out and the first thing we have to establish is that Heroes canon solos all.

  • @Jmldnd1
    @Jmldnd1 Рік тому +6

    You forgot Af Goku Stories my guy is Boundless+ in base form

  • @symm245
    @symm245 Рік тому +7

    i wouldnt say xeno goku is high outer or irrelevant speed. demigrah was going to destroy infinite timelines and the db superhero equivalent of the real world. but beating demigrah in base would alone make xeno goku 6D. xeno goku definitely has immeasurable speed since he is faster than ppl like trunks, who can travel through time by just flying there (he wasnt using gadgets). xeno goku ssj4 limit breaker cant destroy time, just negatively affect it by his presence, but eh. my scale:
    xeno goku is high 6D, hyperversal, and immeasurable speed.

    • @user153xhzbso8e
      @user153xhzbso8e Рік тому +2

      There is no such thing as "High 6D" that's just Low Complex Multiversal but the scale seems valid to me, Hyperversal is 12D+ btw.

    • @symm245
      @symm245 Рік тому

      @@user153xhzbso8e oh cool, but idk where xeno goku in the game scales

    • @user153xhzbso8e
      @user153xhzbso8e Рік тому

      @@symm245 Depends on your scaling, many say he's Boundless and there are debunks that get him to High Hyperversal tops or even lower.

    • @symm245
      @symm245 Рік тому +1

      @@user153xhzbso8e tbh i dont argue with hyperversal levels since he has hax such as probability manipulation and etc

    • @user153xhzbso8e
      @user153xhzbso8e Рік тому +2

      @@symm245 Probability Manipulation wouldn't get his tier higher, it's just hax although good hax but it doesn't upscale him. I myself don't agree with Hyperversal Xeno Goku but I can say he has good hax.

  • @radicaIized
    @radicaIized Рік тому +2

    If we talk about GT Goku in the Goku Jr special, then he could probably be the best since he’s immortal

  • @jussaiyanz6275
    @jussaiyanz6275 Рік тому +1

    Thank you so much my guy for this amazing video now I don't need to hear people put Saitama against Goku🙏🙏🙏

  • @AstraFulminous
    @AstraFulminous Рік тому +3

    No hold up wait a minite if we are counting G Fusion Goku you are telling me that "I have the power!!"

  • @Mediaguy8000
    @Mediaguy8000 Рік тому +8

    GT Goku is anime Goku who encountered all the filler.

    • @ezequielinsaurralde5058
      @ezequielinsaurralde5058 Рік тому +3

      Gt Goku Is Not Only Anime Goku But Also Movie Goku, For All The Examples He Explained + Wrath Of The Dragon Movie, Since Trunks Has The Sword And Goku Knows Dragon Fist

    • @Mediaguy8000
      @Mediaguy8000 Рік тому

      @@ezequielinsaurralde5058 not all the movies happen in the anime, some happen like Garlic Jr., Cooler, Broly, Bojack, and Wrath Of The Dragon.

    • @therealwhoever
      @therealwhoever Рік тому

      In my headcanon I'd like to think gt goku is the goku that genuinely pushed beerus to 70%

  • @Axelzen931
    @Axelzen931 Рік тому

    W🔥🔥🔥

  • @runeuchihawhatifsandgaming3783

    The one I’d assume is the strongest or one of the strongest is like, the goku that wasn’t even injured like ascended goku that wasn’t even injured slightly by omega shenron at the end, seems like that’s in calculable

  • @davonbenson179
    @davonbenson179 Рік тому +10

    I think the Cooler from GT may be different from the one in the movies.

    • @ToasterXD
      @ToasterXD  Рік тому +9

      Hard to say, but there’s also Vegeta suggesting fusion. So I think it’s safe to say the movies are canon to GT.

    • @limbo9993
      @limbo9993 Рік тому +1

      @@ToasterXD Are all of the movies canon to each other?

    • @ryanworlddatboss7109
      @ryanworlddatboss7109 Рік тому +1

      @@limbo9993 nahh they prob missed something in some movies that character should know or not know making that movie not canon unless said so

    • @GodslayerSeiya
      @GodslayerSeiya Рік тому +2

      You shouldn't worry about that the creators don't care and don't sit around discussing canons.

    • @ToasterXD
      @ToasterXD  Рік тому +2

      @@limbo9993I don’t see how they are but apparently they somehow are in the same universe as gt

  • @AritoAkisame
    @AritoAkisame Рік тому +12

    Dragon Ball Fusion's Goku is the one who keeps them all in check

    • @pinksalwaysnice9474
      @pinksalwaysnice9474 Рік тому

      By that logic dead pool solos fiction lol

    • @wasifchowdhury2004
      @wasifchowdhury2004 11 місяців тому

      @@pinksalwaysnice9474 He literally addressed this exact Deadpool argument in the vid lmao

    • @pinksalwaysnice9474
      @pinksalwaysnice9474 11 місяців тому

      @@wasifchowdhury2004 Idc about that arguement when deadpool's whole character is about breaking the 4th wall and viewing fiction as fiction

  • @Sardar_ki_Duniya
    @Sardar_ki_Duniya Рік тому

    What is the song u used in the god fusion goku section reply fast

  • @Shroobi
    @Shroobi Рік тому +1

    Make a discord, I wanna help with scaling

  • @jakeduhsn8k868
    @jakeduhsn8k868 Рік тому +12

    Honestly I have GT at Borderline Multiversal and Super at Low Multiversal but really high into it

    • @purplesky4157
      @purplesky4157 Рік тому +2

      Lol gt goku isn’t even as strong as god goku. Y’all are really giving gt goku to much credit. Super goku is way too strong for anything in gt.

    • @jakeduhsn8k868
      @jakeduhsn8k868 Рік тому +1

      @@purplesky4157 but he is though ? Super Goku is only Low Multi GT Goku has Multiversal Feats unless you’ve debunked them ?

    • @Kodeuk
      @Kodeuk 7 місяців тому

      @@Shinji240GT Goku is Low Multi since he shook the afterlife which has many realms in it and are uni in size

  • @virnim
    @virnim Рік тому +7

    Can he beat Lord English tho?

  • @user-cw6oq9jz4x
    @user-cw6oq9jz4x 11 місяців тому +1

    Make a video on Super Goku it has been a while

  • @MemesMcDreams
    @MemesMcDreams 11 місяців тому +1

    Another thing to add, it was stated that Garlic Jr created the Dead Zone, which is stated to be hyperspace (Space beyond 3D), as well as the fact it was gonna be used to suck up all of heaven. And Garlic Jr and Goku first Fought at aroubd the time of PRE DBZ. We can confidently say Goku in GT is WAY stronger than that too.

  • @son_ixmega
    @son_ixmega Рік тому +4

    Me habla una chica, Yo automaticamente:

  • @sirsunman7826
    @sirsunman7826 Рік тому +4

    ok honestly though I feel like you sling around high outer and boundless a tad bit too much considering the sheer scale of difference between each of those
    also destroying the concept of time isn't baseline high outer, its at most outerversal and depending on the setting can go as low as universal+ saying heros goku is high outer from a feat that can only reach as far as outerversal in a setting where there is already a hyperversal structure backing up the scaling to outerversal which honestly heros doesn't have but we will just give them the outer scaling cause fuck it and if we take the outerscaling we can't really go beyond just good ol' outerversal tier mainly due to the fact that the difference between outerversal and high outerversal isn't a difference of just plain old numbers its a difference of transinfinite separation so getting thousands of billions or trillions of quadrilions or an infinite amount of times stronger is simply not enough to cross that gap, we are talking literal infinite^infinite levels of separation here and same goes for high outer to boundless the actual level of difference is same as the difference between a 11-C character or in other word 1-D character and a outerversal character for each tier beyond regular outerversal.
    jump force: mate no, crossover scaling is pretty silly and would result in majority of fiction being outerversal to outright boundless in some situations, also the difference between boundless and high outer is more than just perceiving the other as fiction.
    GT: up to debate although we don't know if goku can wish for things its more an assumption than a flat out fact or feat just a possibility
    god fusion: fiction to reality fallacy we don't know how the actual "reality" scales to that goku or how it can be properly implemented as there is no concrete ground to stand on with the fiction to reality scale as it is treated differently across many works of fiction like for example the dark tower where the crimson king kills the author, does that mean he can kill actual real life people? no, is he the most powerful being in dark tower since he killed the person who wrote it? also no cause Gon. Honestly using fiction to reality arguments never really amount to anything because at best what you have is a representation of the reality in the fiction which in turn makes said representation fiction itself which turn the argument null and void.
    ok in conclusion for the scaling
    heros: we got guys like demigra being able to destroy time across a 2-A structure which would at the very least result in a complex multiversal scaling or low 1-C scaling but you can push it to 1-A even though honestly that is a bit of a stretch
    jump force: you can either give it a low 1-C scale through perciving heros as fiction which would basically just bump up the dimensional scaling a bit, or to outerversal if you treat it that way, if you want to use the more debatable 1-A scale for heros you can get jump force to 1-A+ because seeing outerversal being and structures as fiction is not enough to get to high 1-A
    GT: I mean you can go from 3-A to 2-B depending on how you scale it other than that it is not even worth mentioning if I'm honest
    god fusion: fiction to reality fallacy not really doing anything
    TL;Dr if we don't down play actual boundless and high outer and don't use fallacies to get him there comp goku is anywhere from low 1-C to 1-A+ which is enough to kill pretty much 99.99% of any anime with like one or two exceptions here and there

  • @shockyy4096
    @shockyy4096 Рік тому

    New subscriber here

  • @nopemanpsycho
    @nopemanpsycho Рік тому

    W mans Fr

  • @SINIXT3R
    @SINIXT3R Рік тому +4

    Goku is a strong character but he is not outversal. Even weaker version of Superman will slam every form of goku

    • @Abrold
      @Abrold Рік тому +1

      How? LOL did you watch the whole video?

    • @SINIXT3R
      @SINIXT3R Рік тому +1

      @@Abrold I don't need to cuz he is gonna debunk and overrate the hell out of goku and say that "goku can actually solo anything"

    • @TruePoseidon
      @TruePoseidon Рік тому +3

      @@SINIXT3R Than your living in a delusion, You refuse to ever accept the truth even when its right in front of you. There is like dozens of proof.

    • @tengen_moon7741
      @tengen_moon7741 9 місяців тому

      ​@@TruePoseidonIt's not the truth when it's obviously biased, Half the feats he states are massive stretches just to barely support his mess of an "argument"

    • @TruePoseidon
      @TruePoseidon 9 місяців тому

      @@tengen_moon7741 Keep telling yourself that, I bet you can't even explain how he's being biased.

  • @jacobbhattacharjee2820
    @jacobbhattacharjee2820 Рік тому +9

    And some anime kiddos thinks rimuru, Gilgamesh, Anos can beat these version of Goku

  • @ctv186
    @ctv186 Місяць тому

    Now that I think of it, Goku in a way affects the real world in tangible ways, including how he started a real international conflict between Japan and Mexico, and it can be summarized as it's because the viewers truly love him. Gotta consider how many viewers in real life lifted up their hands to give Goku spirit bomb energy across the TV screen. Truly outerversal and conceptual feats.

  • @fantom1181
    @fantom1181 Рік тому +1

    Can you do kumagawa vs CC goku?

  • @zakf5990
    @zakf5990 Рік тому +3

    In my opinion jump force Goku is to overpowered all you have to do is turn super saiyan and spam Kamehameha

  • @boooooooring
    @boooooooring Рік тому +5

    The title of this channel should be "How to tell you have a bias towards Goku without telling them?"

  • @yoriichid
    @yoriichid Рік тому

    Nice Video. And I agree with everything. But, can you make Saitama Vs Goku? its been a debate for so long now.

  • @hokagegaming9725
    @hokagegaming9725 Рік тому

    Can you do a vid on SSJ4 Gogeta?

  • @IDMYM8
    @IDMYM8 Рік тому +3

    This is very wierd, stupid, and confusing. It's like asking "which infinity is bigger?"

  • @henryzx900ruly2
    @henryzx900ruly2 Рік тому +3

    xeno slams

  • @zacharaymosley1315
    @zacharaymosley1315 9 місяців тому +1

    8:59 Ssj4 Gogeta was actually stated to be the strongest person in Gt actually. In one of the Gt Guide books.

  • @darkhallow3336
    @darkhallow3336 Рік тому +2

    That Cell Ost is fire🔥

    • @tentaplayz3691
      @tentaplayz3691 Рік тому

      Where lol

    • @raven717
      @raven717 10 місяців тому

      Best OST in the whole franchise in my opinion

  • @vegito6166
    @vegito6166 10 місяців тому +5

    Base super goku >> Gt verse

  • @beastvg123
    @beastvg123 Рік тому +6

    I'm pretty sure Xeno Goku and CC Goku are currently relative to one another.

    • @GodslayerSeiya
      @GodslayerSeiya Рік тому +5

      No they are not currently In Ultra God Mission Goku can use UIO easily and in the arcade and manga it was shown UIO Goku was easily above LBSS4 Xeno Goku.
      In the manga during their training for Big Bang Mission in the Demon God Time Chamber SSB Berserk Controllled Vegeta one shotted a phantom version of LBSS4 Xeno Vegeta who is stated to be the same in strength as the originals.

  • @snthy
    @snthy 6 місяців тому

    Goku has now learned how to whip and nae nae now