NN Skates Dragon Frames Review | Big Wheel Inline Skating
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- Опубліковано 17 вер 2024
- It has been over a month with the NN Skates Dragon frames attached to my freeskates. I have taken them everywhere with me. It is finally time to give you my thoughts on these unique 5x80mm V rockered frames.
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All thoughts, views + opinions are my own.
Thanks for watching!
Dude your filming and editing are looking so good!
Thanks dude! Had some fun with this one with the dragon fire vibe.
@@ThirtyandRollin Awesome slow motion edits! Hey since you have these frames on RB Twister Skates does that mean that Twister Edge is UFS compatible?
@@Inliner242 Good question. These Dragon frames are 165mm 2 point mount not UFS. You may be thinking of the Wizard frames which are also rockered like these. Those are UFS.
@@ThirtyandRollin so if Twister Edge Skates isn't UFS how did you get Dragon Frames on them?
@@Inliner242 The Dragon frames are not UFS.
Maaan that intro!!! Fiiiire!! 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥 woow! I am so impressed. Great job man!
Ok ant the rest of the video was also great! Good filming, great editing, matching music, colors. Love it man!
Thanks dude! It was the most fun part about making this video.
Dude I love skating rockered. My frames are flat so I just rotate the wheels in place and wear them into a natural rocker - it always sucks going back to fresh wheels and skating flat for the first session or two. I'm waiting on some endless frames but after watching this, these look really cool man. Really hope I can try them out down the road too.
Nice endless are a dope frame too!
@@ThirtyandRollin Yeah man, they'll be way more dope when I actually have them. Haha
Thanks for the work you do for the inline skate community! I've just picked up my first 5 wheeled frame which is the NN Dragon, but it's the XL one with 90mm wheels. 🤯
You definitely made me think of NN as an extremely reputable company and this was one of the first videos where I seriously thought about trying 5 down 🙌
I'd love to try these out but I don't have a 165 set up... its all UFS or Trinity... when my wife asks why I bought another pair of skates I'm gonna blame you... 🔥🔥🔥 intro by the way
Hahaha tell her I am sorry. Had a lot of fun with this intro.
Great review! I appreciate the comments and discussion, too. I just ordered the V.m rocker version of the 5 x 80. Thank you for your service, Brother!
No problem! Thank you and enjoy!
You’re out there rolling your best and having a great time! That and your amazing videography and editing skills make your videos such a joy to watch. Teach me your skills oh great one 🙌
Lol well thanks dude. Maybe I will do a BTS video on how I approach and shoot my vids.
@@ThirtyandRollin dude, that would be rad!
Wow so good! 😎 You made me really want to pick up these frames. 🔥
Awesome review. I just ordered myself this setup and am very encouraged by your experience!
You should try some 243mm slalom rockered frames or just put some 76mm front and back wheels on your flat 4x80 frames; maneuverability is awesome, just dont bomb any hills...
I am curious to try that now.
I do that and love it. 76/80/80/76. Tons of fun. I did it with my Aeon 80 skates and what a blast.
You mean they do what the wizard frames do AND do it at HALF the cost??!!😯😯 What accurate-valued sorcery is this?!
I cannot 100% confirm it's exact but damn near close.
Regarding frame length... yeah, my Ronin frames have a 303mm axle-to-axle. I clip my wheels pretty frequently, but the frames are so heavy and stable that it rarely messes me up.
I've been skating rockered setups for most of the last three years. I've watched Zone more times than I can count. My main setup was 4x80 rockerable K2 Midtown frames on K2 Unnatural boots, and then I upgraded to one of the finest rockered setups on the market, the FR1 Deluxe. So for me, getting used to the rocker wasn't that big a deal, but getting used to the frame length is something I'm still working on.
When my wife bought me Trimax frames for christmas one year, they replaced my Midtown frames on the Unnaturals. Sadly, the rockerable frame spacers are rather janky on that setup. Far too steep a rocker to actually use, and the overall length of the frame (255mm) doesn't lend itself all that well to rockering anyway. I've seen some folks use 3d-printed H-blocks on that frame, and for a while I was interested in that, but like you said with the Dragon+Monkey Blocks, it'd be like grinding on stilts. Probably worse since Trimax frames are so damn tall.
Ya you get over the negatives to the length pretty quick. The h-blocks are different story. Tough to get comfortable grinding on tall frames.
Great review man, very honest and thorough analysis. I loved that intro, worked perfectly with the product. I might have to pick up a set 🤔
Thanks! There is some good fun to be had on em!
Thanks for the detailed review! I'm hesitating between the Vm and the V rocker sets. Right now I think the V rocker might be in fact slightly more stable because of the 3+3 contact wheels, and that's the main advantage of these frames over a typical 76-80-80-76 shorter rocker frame...
Yes that is true but the constant weight shifting over 1 point can make them feel less stable. Where the Vm never feels like you are on a single teeter totter point.
@@ThirtyandRollin Cool, thanks for the feedback!
@@Fero1122 No problem.
Thorough review, Dude. The look of these didn’t interest me initially, but when I saw the h-block I wondered if they could be something I might want to try. I looks as though the block itself could be reduced so that it sits higher up and close to the frame, no? I wonder why it sits so low? The pros and cons really helped.👍
If it was higher up it would be nicer for control/feel but then you will introduce more wheel bite.
Very interesting, thanks man!
My pleasure! Thanks for watching.
Amazing review and amazing edit man! I am super curious about these frames now, shame they don't do a trinity mount version.
Ya that would be cool.
They do now!
These would be nice to my Jansons M12's... Great vid!
Thanks!
The late 90’s porn called, it wants its soundtrack back.
That's some freaky intense porn music.
@@ThirtyandRollin 😂🤣
I'm pretty sure I had the biggest cheezy grin watching your edit--so rad. I also have the same experience with rockered frames: Never tried until NN and now I'm hooked (even got 84mm bullet profile wheels which have such a satisfying sound when I carve)
Not sure if I just missed it, but do they provide on there the measurements of how many millimetres each wheel is lifted?
Also yes! I've been telling everyone that NN are the 2-mount versions of Wizards--even went out of my way and put them on Seba GT's
I think they are 1mm each wheel so 2mm from middle to outside wheels. Don't quote me though we should ask @NNskates.
Pls try 76mm wheels for 1 and 5
Super banana rocker? I will if I get my hands on some 76mm wheels.
@@ThirtyandRollin great channel, thank you for replying
You should try out the Marsblades! It’s a different kind of skate then you would normally use but they are pretty cool so
Never heard of them. I will have a look!
thanks for the video/review - very interesting!!
My pleasure!
Nice edit man !
Thanks!
I used "Dragon Frame" for the first time yesterday, I felt that there was nothing worry of falling back. but it is too long for my body. I'm 167 centimeters tall.
My feet are so small that these would be like small ski's for me
Haha ya I wouldn't recommend them to feet smaller than US8 men's size.
I wonder how do you rotate your wheels on these to keep the rocker. Do you already figured out some system? I‘ve got the ninja frame and the standart 1st to 3rd and 2nd to 4th rotation works great to prevent getting full rocker or flat. I could imagine it‘s a bit harder to keep that subtle v rocker on five wheels.
I have not figured that out yet. But when I do I'll let you know.
I just got these as well and have been thinking about this. I'll probably go the caliper route, putting the biggest wheels in the fastest wearing spots, and rotate after every few hours.
@@VintageAlpha Ya I would say that's a good call.
Great info, I've been waiting for this review. They should let you test the other frames. I have been looking at the Ronin I belive 4x100 thinking that could be a good balance of agility and speed . I just went from 3x110 to 4x80 on my fitness skate to work on my footwork and enjoy the flow more. I love the confidence the 4 wheels and a longer frame give me, but I miss the top speed of big wheels. Do you think the 4x100 could provide both? Speed and maneuverability?
I think so which is why I also wanted to try the Ronin's and since NN Skates is so nice those are on there way to me! Stay tuned...
@@ThirtyandRollin Thats awesome 👌, will do!
nice review!
Thank you!
I want to buy a fr1 boat. And I doubt very much which frame... The ronin or the dragon. Hard choice. I like freeskating around the city. Overcome obstacles. Jumping... And want to combine wizard skating with it... I have size 45 of boot. What is your experience with these two frames and what do you recommend?
All around frame with your size foot go Ronin. Dragons are more for wizard skating IMO. Both excellent frames!
This is like the skates frame in Jet Set Radio
Haha totally! I thought the same thing when I first got them.
@@ThirtyandRollin Haha really? Although, I think what they had was more like 80mm or tri wheels with the middle ones taken out and flat frame with no H block 🤔 Has any one on yt tried a setup like that to grind on like in JGR/JSRF? I think itd make a neat video experiment
I've recently discovered these frames and they look absolutely amazing! I've been skating a banana rocker for years. Have you used the Endless Frames? Would love to know how do they compare.
To be honest I have not yet. I would assume they are very similar.
I have some Zoom 100 boots as well as a pair of Rb Cruisers. I ordered the NN Dragon Trinity frames. I dont know if you ever skated the Cruiser before. Ive skated tge Twisters before but in comparison both the Twister and Cruiser have a stiffer cuff vs the Zoom. From your experience do you think the Zoom would be a good boot to try Wizard skating or do I need the stiffest cuff possible. (I know the NN Trinity isnt out yet)
I think the NEXT cuffs work fine for wizard moves.
@@ThirtyandRollin oh no!!! In my case the next are like the Twister too narrow. I wanted to use Trinity but its like there boots are junk. Might have to go back to 165mm.
@@ThirtyandRollin thanks for getting back to me.
@@ThirtyandRollin UPDATE!!@ I put some Crown liners in them... that was the missing piece.
Dude I have a question, I Want to buy these frames but I am afraid I might buy the wrong size. I have the flying eagle f110s and I'm not sure if they will fit the frames, I can use my flying eagle frames with my decathlon free ride skates which I'm not sure of their mounting size. Please help me man I rly wanna buy these frames.
I also forgot to mention that in their Instagram it says compatible with any freeskate
The frames will fit on Flying Eagles skates.
Hi, thank you souch for sharing your content! Could you let me know if there is anywhere I can buy boots with a frame that I can change from 4 wheels to 3 wheels without having to swap the frame? Also are there boots that can fit different frames for different styles? I tried to get this info everywhere but nowhere seems to have the answer. Thank you so much 🙏
Look into the Endless frames. They fit on most 165 mount freestyle/fitness boots.
Just on looks alone they seem a lot taller than they need to be. I get that the second wheel is directly below the mounting bolt but it seems like there's an extra 1cm at least on top of that? And the big mounting platforms you get on freeskate boots. Seems unnecessary, maybe.
Yes I think so too. Hopefully they will make a shorter V2.
does that H-Block fit on a 3x3 frame?
I don't think so.
@Nazar
can I add this monkey h blocks to a 110mm frame?
Nope just the center slot on the dragon frames.
@@ThirtyandRollin Thanks for the reply man!
Will these work with the FR3’s?
You bet!
Another con, nobody sells sets of 10 wheels, 10 bearings (standard) if you want to change em up all at once.
That's a huge con. Thanks for bringing that up. I should have added that.
@@ThirtyandRollin Not really you can buy individual wheels at most shops and online.
@@BalaHormiga Yes just no 5x80 sets.
@@ThirtyandRollin True. I have a 5 x 80 mogema frame I use on occasion. It is a pain to fit it with 10 of the same wheels..LOL.
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whats the point theres no soul plates
Well if you are on a big wheel cruise and you wanna hit a front or backside down a handrail you can.
@@ThirtyandRollin right, but my point is why only the hblock when you can easily have both, many times with biig wheel set ups its the other way around, souls but no h blocks. you said urself its a really tall h block so souls would be nice to have to play with too. usually its an easy mod.
@@timtaylor9590 O because these are 165mm mount not UFS.
@@ThirtyandRollin theres a few options for souls with 165 if you dont want to go the custom route
@@timtaylor9590 For the Twisters? I know about the custom route just don't have any.