It’s only really because idom isn’t used to playing against bison. Once he plays against it more I think he’ll do better. Also idom was pretty off this tournament as well. He’s played much better in other tournaments
And this set is beyond breathtaking too. Both Bison and Laura are characters with strong mixed ups and little reversal measures. Meaning they both have to going all out with their own vortexes and any bad guess could get one of them killed regardless of how the health lead is like. All these factors combined with both players’ reflexes. This is one of these SFV matches that I am going to remember for a very long time
Zhen basically figured Idom's playstyle out, and Idom never really adjusted. He caught on to Idom wanting to do blocked buttons to buffer into command grab, and started jumping out to punish the recovery frames. Knew Idom wasn't respecting Bison's st. HP max range and abused it against him. Checked him in the corner with crouching buttons to beat out light jabs with priority. I think if Idom made the necessary adjustments, didn't try contesting EX Headstomp so much (and getting blown up for it; Laura's no Luke and even Mena mistimed the punish a couple times in his fight with Zhen), I think it would've at least been a much closer game. Dunno if Bison's a super-bad MU for Laura but even so, that's why you find any weakness and exploit it. Anyway tho, big props to Zhen for the W. He's got a really good future in SF6 I reckon (will he play JP?), same with EndingWalker. America has to stop putting all its weight on one or two players at a time; Idom shouldn't be the only American good enough to compete with the best of international talent, there's too many American players for it to just boil down to one. America better step it TF up for SF6 😂😂
Americans have so many tournaments, so many local scenes, EVO is in the US, Capcom Cup is in the US, I don't get why they aren't stronger than that. Arguably the UK alone is stronger than the US, and maybe even France.
7:29 Hitbox charge partitioning is insane! Look how fast he managed to charge his headstomp after the dash. He was charging down almost instanly within the dash animation. This is just something you cant do on a Arcade stick man.
@@yusuf8938 Good luck trying to input a dash, then return to neutral, and then instantly input down to reach this charging speed on an arcade stick. You're never going to do it as fast and consistently as a hitbox user, who already has his finger on the down button while starting his dash animation.
@@jupiterapollo4985 What I'm saying it THAT. Input he just did, the timing charge right after dash, I do all the time on stick. If he went INSTANTLY into the head stomp, id say it's impossible. Its not. It's not even charge partitioning lol. It's just a normal charge
@@jupiterapollo4985 Charge partitioning is when you do an input during the charge, and it comes out in between the charge, and the charge move coming out. Like Guile stand short into flash kick. Or Urien headbutt IMMEDIATELY after dash.
I feel like zhen caught everyone off guard... No one had a strategy or counter measures in mind for him... He's super good don't get me wrong but I feel like everyone was unfamiliar with his play and they didn't have enough time or data to adapt to his play.... Kinda like how Idom washed all the Japanese players at Evo, they didn't have a Laura like his over there, Same zhen being the most aggressive bison around
People respect Bison too much. His pressure is fake but the damage intimidates people To beat Bison you gotta keep him from getting started. Use Vreversal liberally and bait him into trying to escape with ex head stomp. It's easily punished if you set it up Mena understood this well and thats why he steamrolled Zhen the way he did
iDom was cooked simply because he could not adjust to Zhen quickly. That's all. If they meet again, it would not go this way because iDom would be much more prepared.
I think in this top 8 there was a clear gap between number 1 and 2 and then another massive gap between second place and everyone else. Zhen was manhandling everyone.
I don't usually root for MenaRD, but I'm glad he won yesterday. This Zhen dude is really, really good, but there's no emotion in him, he looks like a robot, like those ultra trained Chinese gymnastics athletes.
@@snoopiix For example, this phenomenal kid Endingwalker (who by the way looks just like the guy from the Tiger & Bunny anime), he's also very cold, like Daigo, but you can tell he loves the game. On the other hand, Zhen really looked soulless.
@@stonerdemon So what are you getting at then? He doesn't actually like the game? Lmao. At least say it with your chest instead of hiding behind some backhanded compliment
I have never seen a player dismantle Idom like that and eliminate him from a major tournament before, Zhen is a beast
Agree. He destroyed Idom.
X2
It’s only really because idom isn’t used to playing against bison. Once he plays against it more I think he’ll do better. Also idom was pretty off this tournament as well. He’s played much better in other tournaments
@@cooltron Idom got burnt. 🔥
@@stevest8675 that didn’t take long to find an Idom hater
From being called Fake ProblemX to REAL ZHEN. Saw his interview, very humble guy.
I figured he called himself the fake problem X.
@@pjbpiano Yes he did. I thought he was being disrespected. Humble guy though. He is actually better than ProblemX
I rmb he won problem x
He's wasn't a better bison than problem x but ok @@June-mi9th
I like iDom but this Zhen kid is a pleasure to watch. If Luke is not existing in this game he should have been the CapCom Cup champion by now.
And this set is beyond breathtaking too. Both Bison and Laura are characters with strong mixed ups and little reversal measures. Meaning they both have to going all out with their own vortexes and any bad guess could get one of them killed regardless of how the health lead is like. All these factors combined with both players’ reflexes. This is one of these SFV matches that I am going to remember for a very long time
Char select is the same for everyone. Mena was the best player that day character doesnt matter.
True
i've never seen anybody wash idom so bad
I just see on Bison pure spacing, timing, is the most fundamental playing in high level mood
Zhen basically figured Idom's playstyle out, and Idom never really adjusted. He caught on to Idom wanting to do blocked buttons to buffer into command grab, and started jumping out to punish the recovery frames. Knew Idom wasn't respecting Bison's st. HP max range and abused it against him. Checked him in the corner with crouching buttons to beat out light jabs with priority.
I think if Idom made the necessary adjustments, didn't try contesting EX Headstomp so much (and getting blown up for it; Laura's no Luke and even Mena mistimed the punish a couple times in his fight with Zhen), I think it would've at least been a much closer game. Dunno if Bison's a super-bad MU for Laura but even so, that's why you find any weakness and exploit it.
Anyway tho, big props to Zhen for the W. He's got a really good future in SF6 I reckon (will he play JP?), same with EndingWalker. America has to stop putting all its weight on one or two players at a time; Idom shouldn't be the only American good enough to compete with the best of international talent, there's too many American players for it to just boil down to one.
America better step it TF up for SF6 😂😂
Try putting yourself in their shoes? 🤨
Americans have so many tournaments, so many local scenes, EVO is in the US, Capcom Cup is in the US, I don't get why they aren't stronger than that. Arguably the UK alone is stronger than the US, and maybe even France.
why do the regions matter tho lmao
Didn’t idom almost solo all the Japanese gods? Don’t disrespect him like that
@@balther10 why mention the race? Lol clearly japanese are more advanced but please mention names next time thanks
Damn !
Zhen made Idom look like a rookie.
For real
The Asian kid is always better 😅
its just puts a smile on my face when M. Bison is played so well. Well played Zhen!. I loved it when Problem X won EVO with M. Bison
Zhen is reminding me of when Punk first broke onto the scene and no one knew how to deal with his Karin.
Mena did.
7:29 Hitbox charge partitioning is insane! Look how fast he managed to charge his headstomp after the dash. He was charging down almost instanly within the dash animation. This is just something you cant do on a Arcade stick man.
You absolutely can do that with an arcade stick.
@@yusuf8938 Good luck trying to input a dash, then return to neutral, and then instantly input down to reach this charging speed on an arcade stick. You're never going to do it as fast and consistently as a hitbox user, who already has his finger on the down button while starting his dash animation.
@@jupiterapollo4985 I literally do it all the time on a stick man. It's not hard
@@jupiterapollo4985 What I'm saying it THAT. Input he just did, the timing charge right after dash, I do all the time on stick. If he went INSTANTLY into the head stomp, id say it's impossible. Its not. It's not even charge partitioning lol. It's just a normal charge
@@jupiterapollo4985 Charge partitioning is when you do an input during the charge, and it comes out in between the charge, and the charge move coming out. Like Guile stand short into flash kick. Or Urien headbutt IMMEDIATELY after dash.
My Lord, he is talented...
Great match!
I've always liked Bison
I feel like zhen caught everyone off guard... No one had a strategy or counter measures in mind for him... He's super good don't get me wrong but I feel like everyone was unfamiliar with his play and they didn't have enough time or data to adapt to his play.... Kinda like how Idom washed all the Japanese players at Evo, they didn't have a Laura like his over there, Same zhen being the most aggressive bison around
People respect Bison too much. His pressure is fake but the damage intimidates people
To beat Bison you gotta keep him from getting started. Use Vreversal liberally and bait him into trying to escape with ex head stomp. It's easily punished if you set it up
Mena understood this well and thats why he steamrolled Zhen the way he did
This is god level match!!
The cross up stump caught Idom off guard
Zhen looks Zen and Idom "I don't" know how to counter it.
Can someone tell me why isn’t sf4 and 5 not on the switch 🤨
how did they mess up these uploads so badly? can barely hear the commentators over the game
What.. what.. what.. Big Zhen, what a fight. Idom was like nothing for him.
-zhen4 is the best. 👍🏾 👍🏾
Idom's playstyle were fully downloaded and crushed!!!
A MILE A MINUTE IS NOT FAST! A mile a minute is 60 miles per hour. That's barely speed limit!
Wat system are they playing on ps5, xbox?
I hated this for Idom because him never really seeing Zhen before I believe kinda caught him off guard.. If he beats Zhen he wins the tourney
村肉🏆！！！
開始 關注 沈。
大神呀。
其实是 圳， 深圳的圳
Shout-out China 🇨🇳🇨🇳🇨🇳
Wiggity Washed !!
2:08
That was dirty man 😂
Too dirty
too many expect for idom..
2 perfects
I don’t think that guy was a big deal beating idom. There were some tears that idom normally gets that he missed.🤔🤔🤔🤔
iDom was cooked simply because he could not adjust to Zhen quickly. That's all. If they meet again, it would not go this way because iDom would be much more prepared.
He was utter destroyed.
這把警長玩的出神入化
In the end fat fark MENAD won using Luke 😂
Idom beat by a 14 year old
IDOM GOT WASHED!!!!!!!!!!! LMFAO!!!!
Wiggity Washed !!
Really wanted to see Crimson face Zhen. I think the kid would’ve had a much more difficult time
I think in this top 8 there was a clear gap between number 1 and 2 and then another massive gap between second place and everyone else.
Zhen was manhandling everyone.
@@GinkgoPete yes. It looks like only MenaRD had his number. He completely floored everyone else. I couldn't believe it myself.
Watch his match vs commander Jesse. That Will give you an idea.
final nail in laura spammers SF career, he wont do shit in SF6, mark my words.... GG Zhen
We'll see.
Lol hater. You still can't beat him in 6 no one will ever know your name.
Imagine hating on the only person that can play laura to her fullest potential lmao
Idom is a lower tier god already. No one else can "spam" Laura as he does.
Idom got washed ☠️🤣
U.S has no fundamentals lol still till this day and it shows that other countries studies there opponents
God street fighters suck so bad now. This game is just awful.
I don't usually root for MenaRD, but I'm glad he won yesterday. This Zhen dude is really, really good, but there's no emotion in him, he looks like a robot, like those ultra trained Chinese gymnastics athletes.
Daigo also have no emotion when play on tournament.
@@snoopiix For example, this phenomenal kid Endingwalker (who by the way looks just like the guy from the Tiger & Bunny anime), he's also very cold, like Daigo, but you can tell he loves the game. On the other hand, Zhen really looked soulless.
So you want Zhen to pop off like jumping around or punch the desk over and over every time he win / lose?
@@thepuppetmaster9284 Forget what I said. I give up. Some kids are just too spoiled to understand and tolerate an opinion.
@@stonerdemon So what are you getting at then? He doesn't actually like the game? Lmao. At least say it with your chest instead of hiding behind some backhanded compliment