Here is the part I didn't talk about in the video. This mesquite bean syrup is sweet and delicious. I always wonder what I could make with it, barbecue sauce, beer, ice cream? If you want to learn more about natural pottery paint, here is the link to my playlist all about that ua-cam.com/play/PLxjk09ZJzrlvtM-FCcmX97pOJHP2zxAXy.html
I would try using it to marinate / bask (not sure of the English kitchen terms) spare ribs, with garlic maybe? Or smoked chilli pepper (even better). Good luck eating your paint ;) (that sounds... weirder than I intended to).
En Colombia, por el Cañón del Chicamocha, existe un tipo de Mezquite,"Propopis Juliflora", al que llamamos "Cují". Ya he conseguido una buena cantidad de frijolitos y me propongo preparar la pintura siguiendo tus indicaciones. Muchas gracias por tu valiosa información, además de los excelentes videos que tan generosamente compartes.Muchos abrazos desde Colombia.
Another use for the much-maligned mesquite! Thank you, I had no idea the beans could be used in pottery. Meanwhile, back in Texas, people are still calling them a "pest" tree, and trying to pull them up (lol yeah good luck though, the roots can go down 150 feet or more!). Thanks for the info; I love starting a day by learning something new.
Yeah, they do the same thing here in Arizona. Ranchers pull them up by the roots and poison them by the thousands. But back before ranching much of southern AZ was grassland, the grazing cut the grass down which limited the spread of wildfires which kept the mesquites in check. So now they are trying to maintain the grassland that used to be. Thanks for watching.
I live in Upper Michigan. I have always been interested in pottery and you have sparked a new interest in wanting to try making my own clay and doing everything the primitive way! I am excited to go out and see what I can find in my area that would make a good clay paint. I have never done anything like this before so I am binge watching all your videos trying to learn as much as I can. Thank you so much for sharing your knowledge.
I live in the central area of Mexico and in my community there are dozens of mesquites and I didn't know what to do with thousands of pods and seeds. Mesquite wood is used to make fires that are easy to light and long-lasting. Additionally, the pods are ground and mesquite flour is made for bread or mesquite honey. I also have many huizache trees that have similar pods and seeds. There is a lot that can be done with both trees. Thanks
THANKS I have been able to get mine on INTERNET I am sure they didn't use that to get them, but it works for me. O also use sunflower from the wild in our AREA. THANKS Andy
Have you ever tried using the syrup to produce alcohol? the solids can be dried and ground into flour and included in breads. I'd wager it'd go nicely in a wet masa batter, and then made into flatbread in a hot pan similar to piki or a crepe.
Yup, it's like making a sauce :-) Thank you very much for showing how you're doing that! When you mentioned cider press, I remembered how my grandmother got juice out of boiled red currants: she put that mass into a bag (actually, I suspect it was a pillow case), set that hanging on a rope and then started to twist/rotate the bag into more and more compact form, which squeezed out more or less every drop of juice. Maybe similar process may work for you, too?
Many things can work, the clay is much more important than the paint material. Watch the video I suggested for all the details on organic paint before you get started. ua-cam.com/video/kiy1gbmyRuc/v-deo.html
Previously you have mentioned using maple syrup and so on as organic paint. Do you need to boil it down first or can you just apply it directly to the unfired pot?
It would depend on the consistency of the substance in question. You want it to be relatively think and paint-like. If it is too thin then you may want to boil some of the water out to thicken it up.
As I watched you hand squeezing the beans, I thought that you should use a small wine press to get as much liquid out of them as possible. They aren't very expensive to buy.
Hi from England. I may be trying to teach my grandmother to suck eggs here...but here goes. You need a higher temperature, which isnt possible using your method, but... theres two ways of doing that. You can fire up to the temperature required, job done, or you can do it by 'heat work' ie keeping your lower temperature going for longer. Get a big pile of wood, and keep the fire going, and good luck! I love your vids.
Great timing with the video..just yesterday i boiled down my first pot of sunflowers ..sure takes a while, not sure if i reduced enough as when cooled down in the small containers it has not firmed up...is this normal for sunflowers or reduce some more ? Thanks Steve
Hi Andy (from Tasmania!). I came across your material researching how to make ceramic water filters. Some people try to make them using terracotta pots, but they are not permeable enough to process enough water. There are charity organisations that set up “factories” in developing countries where they mix combustible material (like rice bran) into the clay- that’s where I am at, I saw your videos on how to find and process clay… I’m in the mountains though… I will keep looking for clay… just wondering if making water filters are of interest..?
Sounds interesting. I have had other inquires about water filters in the past but never really looked into it. My focus is on recreating ancient pottery so although this uses similar technology I don't think a video on water filtering will really be helpful to my channel. You may need to drive out of the mountains to find clay, but you never know, I have found clay in the mountains on occasion.
Hey Andy, thanks to your videos I just collected my first clay that I'm going to experiment with, and hopefully end up with some pots for my plants. It made me think, would it be possible for you to show roughly what the temper ratio looks like when mixed in with the clay if you use for example light coloured clay and dark coloured sand? Love your videos, keep doing what you do and thanks for sharing it with us!
I have lots of videos about mixing temper with clay. Here are a couple ua-cam.com/video/u6RlHSG4cY4/v-deo.html ua-cam.com/video/ca20JkKFAcE/v-deo.html ua-cam.com/video/l4QjKYP3fGk/v-deo.html
@@AncientPottery Thank you, I already watched all three of those videos but can't seem to clearly see the particles when they're mixed in with the clay, maybe the temper just doesn't show up as visible spots in the clay as I thought it might. Thanks for the reply and helpful links tho, much appreciated!
For organic paint, wild sunflowers. But watch that video about how organic paint works first because it is a little tricky. ua-cam.com/video/kiy1gbmyRuc/v-deo.html For mineral paint, manganese or hematite but you probably don’t find too many minerals like that in Iowa so might need to purchase it on the internet. ua-cam.com/video/Dqp8ePhg7Wk/v-deo.html
Many things can work, the clay is much more important than the paint material. Watch the video I suggested for all the details on organic paint before you get started. ua-cam.com/video/kiy1gbmyRuc/v-deo.html
Has anyone ever tried oak galls? Writing ink was made of oak galls. ...trying to think of things I can use from my area. ...I wonder about coffee senna beans? 🤔 I'm in Deep East Texas, by the way.
I’m in Goodyear and have too many beans in my yard. You are welcome to them for free. We have to keep the lot free of them and weeds per our HOA. You’d do us a favor.
Here is the part I didn't talk about in the video. This mesquite bean syrup is sweet and delicious. I always wonder what I could make with it, barbecue sauce, beer, ice cream?
If you want to learn more about natural pottery paint, here is the link to my playlist all about that ua-cam.com/play/PLxjk09ZJzrlvtM-FCcmX97pOJHP2zxAXy.html
I would try using it to marinate / bask (not sure of the English kitchen terms) spare ribs, with garlic maybe? Or smoked chilli pepper (even better). Good luck eating your paint ;) (that sounds... weirder than I intended to).
Good tutorial, thanks. Slow cookers reduce the likelihood of burning but as the name implies, they are slow.
Thanks! Yes the slow cooker is a great way to do it if you have lots of time or just want to let it cook while you go to work.
En Colombia, por el Cañón del Chicamocha, existe un tipo de Mezquite,"Propopis Juliflora", al que llamamos "Cují". Ya he conseguido una buena cantidad de frijolitos y me propongo preparar la pintura siguiendo tus indicaciones. Muchas gracias por tu valiosa información, además de los excelentes videos que tan generosamente compartes.Muchos abrazos desde Colombia.
That's great, I hope it works out well for you.
Another use for the much-maligned mesquite! Thank you, I had no idea the beans could be used in pottery. Meanwhile, back in Texas, people are still calling them a "pest" tree, and trying to pull them up (lol yeah good luck though, the roots can go down 150 feet or more!). Thanks for the info; I love starting a day by learning something new.
Yeah, they do the same thing here in Arizona. Ranchers pull them up by the roots and poison them by the thousands. But back before ranching much of southern AZ was grassland, the grazing cut the grass down which limited the spread of wildfires which kept the mesquites in check. So now they are trying to maintain the grassland that used to be. Thanks for watching.
Here in Mexico those mesquites are endangered species, they're used to make bases for train rails (durmientes), and also for traditional toys.
In many parts of Mexico, mesquite is used to grill meat, due to the aroma left by the smoke it generates.
I live in Upper Michigan. I have always been interested in pottery and you have sparked a new interest in wanting to try making my own clay and doing everything the primitive way! I am excited to go out and see what I can find in my area that would make a good clay paint. I have never done anything like this before so I am binge watching all your videos trying to learn as much as I can. Thank you so much for sharing your knowledge.
That's awesome. I have heard that there is a lot of good clay in upper Michigan.
I live in the central area of Mexico and in my community there are dozens of mesquites and I didn't know what to do with thousands of pods and seeds. Mesquite wood is used to make fires that are easy to light and long-lasting. Additionally, the pods are ground and mesquite flour is made for bread or mesquite honey. I also have many huizache trees that have similar pods and seeds.
There is a lot that can be done with both trees. Thanks
I’m a big fan of mesquite trees. We have a lot of them in south Texas. Here’s yet another use for this noble tree.
We sure have a lot of them here in Arizona too.
Just found your channel today and really enjoying the knowledge you share. Thanks!
You're welcome
Love the cute container the mesquite came in, can't wait to use it
Thanks. I struggled to find something that I could ship it in without making a mess
@@AncientPottery It will be good for beads or pins, definitely reusable. Glad to have mesquite.
I "dig" this video. I keep coming back to it. I plan to use my paint from Andy soon. Plus it smells DELCIOUS!!!
It tastes delicious too!
“Making pottery paint” is one of my favorite issues, 👍
Me too, unfortunate paint videos don't usually get as many views as clay or firing videos.
THANKS I have been able to get mine on INTERNET I am sure they didn't use that to get them, but it works for me. O also use sunflower from the wild in our AREA. THANKS Andy
You bought mesquite beans on the internet?
Have you ever tried using the syrup to produce alcohol?
the solids can be dried and ground into flour and included in breads. I'd wager it'd go nicely in a wet masa batter, and then made into flatbread in a hot pan similar to piki or a crepe.
Sounds delicious, I would love to try that some time.
Yup, it's like making a sauce :-) Thank you very much for showing how you're doing that!
When you mentioned cider press, I remembered how my grandmother got juice out of boiled red currants: she put that mass into a bag (actually, I suspect it was a pillow case), set that hanging on a rope and then started to twist/rotate the bag into more and more compact form, which squeezed out more or less every drop of juice. Maybe similar process may work for you, too?
Great idea, I will definitely try that next time I make paint.
Thank you very much for video. I am lucky we have this tree in Turkey. Beans little bit different. I will try. Hope works
where I live I wonder about using Poke or Rouge berry, maybe sugar cane, guess I should try
Many things can work, the clay is much more important than the paint material. Watch the video I suggested for all the details on organic paint before you get started. ua-cam.com/video/kiy1gbmyRuc/v-deo.html
Thanks!
Welcome!
Good Morning 🌄
Good morning!
@@AncientPottery Beautiful Blessed Morning Andy 🙏🏽 I keep including John in the prayers 💯
Thanks for tutorial!
No problem!
Previously you have mentioned using maple syrup and so on as organic paint. Do you need to boil it down first or can you just apply it directly to the unfired pot?
It would depend on the consistency of the substance in question. You want it to be relatively think and paint-like. If it is too thin then you may want to boil some of the water out to thicken it up.
Your video is very nice I love your video
Thank you so much 😀
Cool video I made some paint with sweet gum tree it's very sticky
That's cool, have you tried it yet?
@@AncientPottery not yet I hope to soon
As I watched you hand squeezing the beans, I thought that you should use a small wine press to get as much liquid out of them as possible. They aren't very expensive to buy.
Definitely, that would be very useful.
👍🏻 Interesting.
Glad you think so!
Hi from England. I may be trying to teach my grandmother to suck eggs here...but here goes. You need a higher temperature, which isnt possible using your method, but... theres two ways of doing that. You can fire up to the temperature required, job done, or you can do it by 'heat work' ie keeping your lower temperature going for longer.
Get a big pile of wood, and keep the fire going, and good luck! I love your vids.
Thanks for the tip
Great timing with the video..just yesterday i boiled down my first pot of sunflowers ..sure takes a while, not sure if i reduced enough as when cooled down in the small containers it has not firmed up...is this normal for sunflowers or reduce some more ? Thanks Steve
Boil down until it is super thick and sticky. If it isn’t, keep cooking. Thanks.
@@AncientPottery Thanks.. Tried a bit as a binder with manganese.. Works ok so can handle the pots
Would you recommend using a cooking pot that is dedicated to this? or will it wash out OK?
No, it is water based and will come off easily with a little soaking.
Hi Andy (from Tasmania!). I came across your material researching how to make ceramic water filters. Some people try to make them using terracotta pots, but they are not permeable enough to process enough water. There are charity organisations that set up “factories” in developing countries where they mix combustible material (like rice bran) into the clay- that’s where I am at, I saw your videos on how to find and process clay… I’m in the mountains though… I will keep looking for clay… just wondering if making water filters are of interest..?
Sounds interesting. I have had other inquires about water filters in the past but never really looked into it. My focus is on recreating ancient pottery so although this uses similar technology I don't think a video on water filtering will really be helpful to my channel. You may need to drive out of the mountains to find clay, but you never know, I have found clay in the mountains on occasion.
Hey Andy, thanks to your videos I just collected my first clay that I'm going to experiment with, and hopefully end up with some pots for my plants. It made me think, would it be possible for you to show roughly what the temper ratio looks like when mixed in with the clay if you use for example light coloured clay and dark coloured sand?
Love your videos, keep doing what you do and thanks for sharing it with us!
I have lots of videos about mixing temper with clay. Here are a couple ua-cam.com/video/u6RlHSG4cY4/v-deo.html
ua-cam.com/video/ca20JkKFAcE/v-deo.html
ua-cam.com/video/l4QjKYP3fGk/v-deo.html
@@AncientPottery Thank you, I already watched all three of those videos but can't seem to clearly see the particles when they're mixed in with the clay, maybe the temper just doesn't show up as visible spots in the clay as I thought it might. Thanks for the reply and helpful links tho, much appreciated!
What would be a good item to collect in Iowa that will make clay paint?
For organic paint, wild sunflowers. But watch that video about how organic paint works first because it is a little tricky. ua-cam.com/video/kiy1gbmyRuc/v-deo.html
For mineral paint, manganese or hematite but you probably don’t find too many minerals like that in Iowa so might need to purchase it on the internet. ua-cam.com/video/Dqp8ePhg7Wk/v-deo.html
Will other syrups work, maple? Will birch tar work?
yes, all this will work, you need to try
Many things can work, the clay is much more important than the paint material. Watch the video I suggested for all the details on organic paint before you get started. ua-cam.com/video/kiy1gbmyRuc/v-deo.html
How do you make the black like you see on ancient specimens
Either organic paint as I did here, or manganese, or copper in oxidation or iron in reduction
in my opinion, both honey and sugar syrup will do as a black paint. Any sticky organic matter with a high carbon content. I haven't tried it myself.
Or molasses
Yes, I believe you are right. Some of the Pueblo potters use Karo syrup.
@@marycrawford9428 Yes, I have used that to decent success.
does it work too with other type of beans (red etc) ???
ps : I love your videos fr 😎😎
Thanks! I doubt the type of beans we eat would make any kind of a syrup. The mesquite pods are full of sugar which is why they work so well.
@@AncientPottery What about Catalpa beans?
Has anyone ever tried oak galls? Writing ink was made of oak galls. ...trying to think of things I can use from my area. ...I wonder about coffee senna beans? 🤔 I'm in Deep East Texas, by the way.
I never have although we have lots of oaks and oak apples around here too,
I’m in Goodyear and have too many beans in my yard. You are welcome to them for free. We have to keep the lot free of them and weeds per our HOA. You’d do us a favor.
Believe me, there is no shortage of mesquite beans here in Tucson
Sorry, that comment belonged to the salt flux vid.
I made iron oxide using electrolytic method but it was messy and dangerous
Okay, you know you can buy red iron oxide pretty inexpensively online.