Also playing around with Swift Marchers a little more, I think I'd be very much in favor of mana cost literally doubling at a minimum. It's a little too good. Maybe lose Road Walk. I dunno. It's a lot like fabled hunters in a lot of respects, and that's a trait that I'm perpetually okay with getting nerfed.
@klodpraisor I know Avoxel will never do that, and I'd *like* to get the trait to something closer to balanced... but yeah, it's good. I just say double cost on Forced March at a minimum to seriously slow down your ability to turbo clear at the beginning of the game when mana is most precious without royally messing the skill up in the late game. Tbh, Forced March could be 25 mana per click and still be net positive and usable.
I am tempted to delete the channel right now just to capture something beautiful as the post announcing this on reddit is at 69% upvote rate and honestly I couldn't be more proud.
FOR GOODNESS SAKE, when you hover over something, DO NOT quickly move your mouse off of it like you have hand twitches or ADHD. JUST LEAVE the text on the screen for like 2 seconds so we can pause or read it quickly, or EVEN leave it on the screen for like more seconds while you talk about it. LOVE your content, but you constantly do that and it makes it very hard to read and follow for noobs like me. thank you very much.
It's a bug of Walker game design I really can't get over, I really am sorry. I hope you can just listen to the video most of the time and still learn a lot? That's how I hope most people watch my stuff anyways, the things on the screen are usually not *that* important.
@@wepg I completely understand. Trust me, I am in the same boat. Just a suggestion. I still love your content and will continue to subscribe and watch. Keep up the great work my friend!
Lol when you said "and this will allow you to invade zombies capital on turn 9" that got me laughing literally out loud XD also thank you for your shoutouts in the pinned comment
Hi! Thank you for the Swift Marchers & Cult of Personality info, it was really neat. Also the secret Hero Rework part. :D Your style is a bit frenetic and unfocused but had a lot of good info and great energy! :)
@@tomirasanen2512 Bug Hunters is going to be all like that. Expect the tier lists to be more "normal," but the Bug Hunters videos are going to be as close to unfiltered Walker as possible so probably boil it before consuming.
Before the update I was playing around with swift marchers with industrial culture, necromancy, dragon lord and ancient hoarder society trait. Swift marchers allows double prospecting. More items = more gold and more mana.
Yeah, and it gives you an extra scout so it is effectively quad prospecting. The issue is that 1.) not every map gen will support this except for Land, and even then you can have only 5 mountains reachable within the first 2 turns and 2.) Industrious was meaningfully nerfed in their combat ability by losing Defensive Masters and taunt, their main frontline cc, coming down to 2 turns. To be clear, I do think it is very powerful on Industrious, but given that I think Industrious is probably A rank now instead of S I think that's okay.
Swift Marchers is a very bad precedent of a literal 'pay to win' society trait. Having the ability to forced march from the start of the game, plus never losing units on routing, plus road walk is like having speedhack cheats enabled, and you can only get it if you either buy the full Expansion Pass, or the Herald of Glory DLC that literally contains this one trait and some cosmetics. I really wish this aspect of the trait got more attention since it's not just bustedly overpowered but also directly gives more power to those who pay more. Triumph really needs to see more backlash on this IMO
@@Dakkalazy I hope that someone else can lead that charge, I've been reporting on the double stun bug and it's consequences for more than half a year. I would encourage you to engage with the community in a respectful way but in a way that communicates that *you* - the customer who pays Triumph to make games - are unhappy currently with the balance. I think Road Walk needs to come off 100%. Probably mana cost doubled too.
oof, I was wondering why I didn't see you or your streams for a long time, and for some reason I was not subscribed yet! :o mistake rectified immediately
@@-Kidzin Honestly though, try it out on someone more "fair" like Mystics and you'll see why I'm strongly in favor of people playing around with it on non-Barb factions. It opens up the map for you and allows you to make much more deliberate, interesting turns, and rewards player skill and attentiveness immensely. I really do love it, probably my favorite trait. Just auto ban on barbs no excuses
@@wepgjust by your description it still sounds very problematic, massive move increase in combat economy games is no brainer for anyone. It's like stables, logistics, town portal and dimension gate from homm3. No matter who you play you'd you want them (well last two are must have)
! I hope you had fun with this video, I really don't think I can stop myself from recording "Mortal Rulers are Feckless, Treasonous Cowards in AoW 4 - Bug Hunters" as soon as humanly possible.
i Spent a while looking for swift marchers but i cant find it. Where is it pn the patheon tree? I only have the vanilla game, is that why i dont have swift marchers?
I think it was part of the Herald of Glory preorder bonus for getting Season 2, which I'm not like a *huge* fan of Pay-to-Win. That said, I do think the trait is mostly okay on not barbs, so I don't think it's more pay to win than any of the busted DLC tomes, so *shrug*.
Also playing around with Swift Marchers a little more, I think I'd be very much in favor of mana cost literally doubling at a minimum. It's a little too good. Maybe lose Road Walk. I dunno. It's a lot like fabled hunters in a lot of respects, and that's a trait that I'm perpetually okay with getting nerfed.
Unironically it can lose the unlock forced march at the beginning of the game and still probably be pickable. It really should be adjusted.
@klodpraisor I know Avoxel will never do that, and I'd *like* to get the trait to something closer to balanced... but yeah, it's good. I just say double cost on Forced March at a minimum to seriously slow down your ability to turbo clear at the beginning of the game when mana is most precious without royally messing the skill up in the late game. Tbh, Forced March could be 25 mana per click and still be net positive and usable.
I am tempted to delete the channel right now just to capture something beautiful as the post announcing this on reddit is at 69% upvote rate and honestly I couldn't be more proud.
FOR GOODNESS SAKE, when you hover over something, DO NOT quickly move your mouse off of it like you have hand twitches or ADHD. JUST LEAVE the text on the screen for like 2 seconds so we can pause or read it quickly, or EVEN leave it on the screen for like more seconds while you talk about it. LOVE your content, but you constantly do that and it makes it very hard to read and follow for noobs like me. thank you very much.
It's a bug of Walker game design I really can't get over, I really am sorry. I hope you can just listen to the video most of the time and still learn a lot? That's how I hope most people watch my stuff anyways, the things on the screen are usually not *that* important.
@@wepg I completely understand. Trust me, I am in the same boat. Just a suggestion. I still love your content and will continue to subscribe and watch. Keep up the great work my friend!
Lol when you said "and this will allow you to invade zombies capital on turn 9" that got me laughing literally out loud XD also thank you for your shoutouts in the pinned comment
@@WinSlayaGaming 100% bro
Yay, Im glad you’re back!
Hi!
Thank you for the Swift Marchers & Cult of Personality info, it was really neat.
Also the secret Hero Rework part. :D
Your style is a bit frenetic and unfocused but had a lot of good info and great energy! :)
@@tomirasanen2512 Bug Hunters is going to be all like that. Expect the tier lists to be more "normal," but the Bug Hunters videos are going to be as close to unfiltered Walker as possible so probably boil it before consuming.
Before the update I was playing around with swift marchers with industrial culture, necromancy, dragon lord and ancient hoarder society trait. Swift marchers allows double prospecting. More items = more gold and more mana.
Yeah, and it gives you an extra scout so it is effectively quad prospecting. The issue is that 1.) not every map gen will support this except for Land, and even then you can have only 5 mountains reachable within the first 2 turns and 2.) Industrious was meaningfully nerfed in their combat ability by losing Defensive Masters and taunt, their main frontline cc, coming down to 2 turns.
To be clear, I do think it is very powerful on Industrious, but given that I think Industrious is probably A rank now instead of S I think that's okay.
He’s back! Welcome back Walker!
Hey Walker, glad you are back with this new DLC!
Any plans on lets plays or new tier lists?
Yes
Swift Marchers is a very bad precedent of a literal 'pay to win' society trait. Having the ability to forced march from the start of the game, plus never losing units on routing, plus road walk is like having speedhack cheats enabled, and you can only get it if you either buy the full Expansion Pass, or the Herald of Glory DLC that literally contains this one trait and some cosmetics. I really wish this aspect of the trait got more attention since it's not just bustedly overpowered but also directly gives more power to those who pay more. Triumph really needs to see more backlash on this IMO
@@Dakkalazy I hope that someone else can lead that charge, I've been reporting on the double stun bug and it's consequences for more than half a year. I would encourage you to engage with the community in a respectful way but in a way that communicates that *you* - the customer who pays Triumph to make games - are unhappy currently with the balance. I think Road Walk needs to come off 100%. Probably mana cost doubled too.
oof, I was wondering why I didn't see you or your streams for a long time, and for some reason I was not subscribed yet! :o mistake rectified immediately
@@forwenein2669 oh killer
Yeah when I read Swift March I instantly knew it will be dumb with Barbs. Banned for now in my eyes ;P
@@-Kidzin Honestly though, try it out on someone more "fair" like Mystics and you'll see why I'm strongly in favor of people playing around with it on non-Barb factions. It opens up the map for you and allows you to make much more deliberate, interesting turns, and rewards player skill and attentiveness immensely. I really do love it, probably my favorite trait.
Just auto ban on barbs no excuses
@@wepgjust by your description it still sounds very problematic, massive move increase in combat economy games is no brainer for anyone. It's like stables, logistics, town portal and dimension gate from homm3. No matter who you play you'd you want them (well last two are must have)
@-Kidzin Yeah I'm team -road walk now
Yes, I wont lie, I like revers :(
!!! I can't believe it! Yay!
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I hope you had fun with this video, I really don't think I can stop myself from recording "Mortal Rulers are Feckless, Treasonous Cowards in AoW 4 - Bug Hunters" as soon as humanly possible.
Wait a minute! Stream at midnight tonight!? Does that mean ways of war will be available tonight?
@@AnthonyBrown-jp6zn nah bruh, this is just a video showing off stuff you don't even need the DLC for. Should be fun, though!
@wepg oh I'm tuning in no doubt!
i Spent a while looking for swift marchers but i cant find it. Where is it pn the patheon tree? I only have the vanilla game, is that why i dont have swift marchers?
I think it was part of the Herald of Glory preorder bonus for getting Season 2, which I'm not like a *huge* fan of Pay-to-Win. That said, I do think the trait is mostly okay on not barbs, so I don't think it's more pay to win than any of the busted DLC tomes, so *shrug*.
Age of Walkers 4
@@JohnnyTightIips Oh my God you finally get it, it's all performance art
Jesus, you move the screen too much
@@KorhalKk brother you don't know the half of it.