That was by far the best 891 FT8/digital mode set-up video that I've ever seen. (Sorry Josh, and others who have done one as well... this one is better). I appreciate the explanation as to WHAT each setting does and WHY you adjusted them to what you did. Now I'm going to go get my rig up and running and get some digital contacts going!
I agree. I was beating my head against the wall wondering what was not working, so I followed along with this video and I don't know what detail did it but it worked. Thanks for being thorough and clear.
I'm new to digital. I've watched hours upon hours of digital videos. Yours on FT8 is by far the best. I'm still learning. I'll subscribe and ck out your other videos to see if there are some on the other modes. Thanks!!
Fantastic tutorial, this one will make the rounds for years.. side note: I watched on full screen during lunch break. Saw 1:36pm on your computer and freaked out a bit.. then reality kicked in so All Good :)
Thanks for the great video! I was up and running with the FT-891 and the Tigertronics SignalLink in the time it took to watch the video. On thing I had to change was the Data Data Gain. You said it didn't matter and left it at 50. For me, The Data Mic Gain did nothing, and I had to change to change this one to 21 or the ALC was always way too high, no matter how low a TX setting I put on the SignalLink. Oh, and I love your call (and shirt)! SAFETY FAST!!! I've got a 1969 MGBGT in British Racing Green that my dad bought new and kept it in the family. Not restored, but well maintained with about 140K miles. It still has the bumper mount on it from when I was in college, using my Kenwood TS-520S as a mobile rig for HF in it and the Heathkit HW-2036A for 2m. I never worried about running down the battery because you can start those cars on a slight hill and popping the clutch in reverse... 73's John - WB0UVD
An excellent tutorial. I had an uncle who was a dairy farmer in Luck decades ago, I've actually been there! Als as you know that is where Duncan Yoyos were manufactured.
This has been a great tutorial. I have a 1-yr old FT-891, and I have thought about digital modes. I'd like to use a digirig controller. My last venture into digital modes was 20+ years ago, and I used the MFJ-1278 for packet and AMTOR. I used packet for the DX Cluster, and I enjoyed RTTY and AMTOR a few times. I can still remember the QSO on RTTY, and the other ham asking if I have AMTOR capability. I gave him my 4 character identifier, and BOOM! My radio started TXing and RXing. Super cool. I'm hoping that new modes will be more exciting and fun.
The FT-891 is a GREAT radio for its price and form factor. I love mine. Here's hoping you have many great QSOs on your new radio setup and digital modes!
Hi Steve. Thank you for the excellent tutorial setting up the FT-891 with the MFJ Digilink. Once all the settings are in place everything works great. First complaint goes to MFJ - they DO NOT supply any USB cables whatsoever and you need two. So once you get your MFJ-1205 you cannot operate out of the box, unless you have 2 extra USB-A to B laying around. MFJ does not even mention that the USB cables are not provided on their website. I shot them an email about this matter. Second complaint goes to the Yaesu engineers for not adding separate digital operation profiles in the menu so you can quickly switch settings if you are using different audio interfaces. So I had to make a cheat sheet of the settings. The FT-891 in data mode is actually pretty quiet compared to my IC-7300 which makes lots more fan noise when running FT8. Thanks!
Great job! Sometime it is had to find someone to help you setup the newer modes on older radios. There are a lot of good older radios available out there that lower the entry threshold for new hams to get into that part of the hobby. This helps out those new hams as well as breathing new life into the old radios. My hat is off to you for that!
I appreciate the detail, because there are several devices on the market, mine is a Digirig. However I learned to use the 3 program keys for MTR then Width, as the 891 forgets and it is easy to keep set with a button, and Monitor as I also listen to the signal being sent to make sure there is no over drive with ALC. 73's
The 891 is really a bargain for a great radio. You describing the menus is very helpful. What is the biggest problem of the radio is they really were not built for digital modes. I wish there was software that would change the menus to and from digital modes so you can easily change to phone or CW. Then it would be a much better radio for everyone. Who has not been operating FT8 then cannot get phone or CW to work because you need to adjust the menus.
I would love to see them retire the firmware keys for these radios when they end-of-life them. I would love to see what the market could do with custom firmware!
@@temporarilyoffline I would agree, FLRIG comes close but not close enough. Note I think Yaesu fixed this with profiles on newer radios but no is not offering firmware updates.
I have fought my 891 and FT8 for a week. Hours everyday. I found this video and it was exactly what I needed. Explained in a way this old fart could understand. Today was my first FT8 contact. I hit NY. Second contact was Hamamatsu Japan. Thank, you, Thank you, Thank you N7NHS
May have been mentioned, but if you set the "soft" functions BEFORE selecting `Data/Pkt` in wsjt-x, you'll likely have to re-set the soft settings once the radio switches to digi mode, most likely when you click "Test CAT"
Hi Steve, I added the WDH button to Func B and every time I check on power up it it is still set to 3200 Hz. Guess I will now set MTR to Func B. Stay safe. 73 WJ3U
Great video for FT8 with the FT-891 and Linux. I have an FT-891 currently running FT8 on Windows, but I am in the process of converting over to Linux. This is going to be a big help.
Thanks TO. Great video. I think if anyone has a semi-modern radio and a similar audio device, this should be helpful to them. It also reminds me of why I am waiting on purchasing a NEW radio. Current connector technology is like future alien tech compared to what they are still using on amateur radios. They are slowly getting there, but I'd like to see more USB, DP, HDMI and other modern and/or digital connectors on radios. There is a reason the rest of the world mostly moved on from DIN PS2 Keyboard style connectors.
The radios and audio processors should be wireless Bluetooth. You can buy $40 mixers that join PC, mixer and source but not a $1500 wireless appliance? It demonstrates the truly unimaginative and entrenched style the Japanese corporate radio mentality is famous for. Look to other brands to develop theses methods before they do. It's just unfortunate that these companies are much smaller making their products expensive. I think those like FLEX will be those innovators while Yaesu and Icom rush to integrate Windows 7 to the market 😆😂😉
@@radiotests Yes, FLEX is a great example of a company that is ahead of the curve. I agree that wireless should definitely be the end goal for radio data and audio, but until then I'm really only asking for modern hard wired connectors that haven't been around since the 70s. DIN is garbage.
How did you know that I was struggling to do this just yesterday?! Trying to do this with an RPi4, Signalink & FT891. It's surprisingly *not* easy to do.
I read your mind from a far using the power of RF! This tutorial is almost step by step what you need for your Signalink and I have used the Signalink for the FT-891 in the past. There are a ton of settings in the FT-891's menus - be sure to get the cheat-sheet!
Great video Steve - I have the FT-891 and the signal link - I bought the cables for the Icom IC-7000 and I think the same pin connections are used for the Yaesu. I need to dig it out and give it a try. Great explanation of the ALC - I did a short video almost a year ago on ALC, and you described it perfectly, its one of my popular videos and I think i did it in a rush. Well done
Thanks Glenn! I /believe/ the IC-7000 is the same as the 706, so it has a 13pin connector and the Yaesu has a 6pin connector. - This MFJ setup is almost identical to the signalink device inside.
@@temporarilyoffline I just looked it up the IC-7000 an it can use the 13pin or the 6 pin - I think i bought the 6 pin SLUSB6PM which on the tigertronics website has the FT-891 using the same 6 pin also the jumper module is the same so the jumper for data and PTT are the same - ill have to dig out the signal link after I move - currently my Ham gear is all in packing boxes have to give it a go - maybe someone has made a video on it....
Your making some great videos Steve! It's really nice to see programs to do radio effectively and not just shill some product for a site sponsor. It's what we all hope for when clicking a video to learn something new. The Quadra videos are great too! Keep up the great work 73 Craig
The most comprehensive setup tutorial I’ve seen. Thank you Steve. Is it possible to do a video of doing this with a SignalLink? I tried several times to make it work with SignalLink and can’t seem to get it done.
@@temporarilyoffline I’m so sorry. Not a signalLink. But a DigiRig. Lol. My bad. Maybe I shouldn’t try radio or comment while I have the flu. Lol. But I will try it slowly and step by step your way and see if it works. Thanks.
@@_onthemike_ Yeah, the setup is 97% the same until you get to choosing the audio device in WSJT-X - I do have an FT-818 version that uses the digirig: ua-cam.com/video/sphtfRfsZvg/v-deo.html
Thanks! I have been avoiding FT8 with my 891 because i have all Linux AND a Signalink. I assume the set up is similar as what is presented here. I have been wanting to get going with the Digital stuff but I don’t have a Windows machine and this is the first one I’ve been able to understand how to work with Linux. THANK YOU and 73-KQ4FIP
@@kevinpoff8285 the device I used in the vid is a clone of the signalink. I think you just need to find the audio devices in your list and iff I remember correctly they are TI/Burr Brown, but it should be pretty obvious.
I am getting a Rig Control Error. Hamlib error: IO error. Port_open: serial_open(/dev/ttyUSB0) status=-6, err=Permission denied iofunc.c(81):port_open return(-6) Rig.c(795):rig_open return(-6) while opening connection to rig Any suggestions?
Importantly, and also maybe superfluously, since if you're this entrenched in Linux you'll probably already know this, the audio input might not be alsa! I point this out just in case anyone goes into the comments because they can't find "alsa-so-and-so-device". There are a few potential options for audio sources and sinks in Linux, and alsa is just the one that Linux Mint uses (as do many, many others). It could also be pulse or pipewire, or a few other things. Alsa is certainly very common, though. The important thing is to look for the correct device name. Great video! Looking forward to trying out ft8 in the coming months when I can find time to go take my general test.
I don’t have the FT891, nor use WSJT-X, but this was still very interesting. Great vid Steve, well presented. I suppose I’ll go shopping now!😂 cheers and 73
@@temporarilyoffline - I’m trying to decide on an all rounder for portable, mobile and eventually shack ops. The 891 is the front runner ATM. Cheers & 73.
My kingdom for a way to change the default bandpass filter width for DATA mode on this radio. Every time I fire it up I end up looking at a waterfall that looks just like the one you showed, followed by a few choice words, followed by yet another enjoyable trip into Yaesu menu land.
@@temporarilyoffline SH0117 is the command if I'm reading it right. Bottom of page 16 of the FT-891 CAT Operation Reference Book. I'll probably setup a macro in ACLog for this. Good idea!
To be pedantic, but not argumentative: it's a "weak signal" mode, not a "low power" mode - so normal amateur rules apply - use the least amount of power needed to make the contact. I've worked far off DX at 400w that would not have worked at 5w. Thanks for watching and good DX!
I am starting to think you are tracking my browser history. 1st the Quadra and now the 891, weird that you are dropping videos on them as I debate with myself about hitting the buy now button hahaha.
Maybe you can try my idea for making an FT8 interface setup for the 891 using parts from Ali for around $20. I think that would make a good video. I'll post about it in Toads with links to the parts if you're interested.
I forgot to mention (and I can't edit comments in UA-cam in this browser) I found inline audio isolation transformers to add to the setup with a 3.5mm jack and a pigtail with a 3.5mm plug. That should solve the possible issue of computer noise getting into the radio or vice-versa over the audio cables. :)
Useful video, thank you. But wow man, 100 watts on a 100% duty cycle mode on that poor little FT-891 cannot be a good idea. Great radio, but I feel sorry for its final output power transistors! I'd keep 100% duty cycle modes below 25 watts. Without checking, I think Yaesu recommend keeping power below 40 watts for full duty cycle modes. But to help longevity, I would not use more than 25 watts, myself. I'd want to preserve such a great little rig, not risk burning up the finals - or the ATU if one is being used, or the antenna if it's only rated 100 watts SSB - keep it to 25 to 30 watts. Be safe! 73
Yeah, you have to redo a bunch of settings to swap in and out, and even after power off and per band. Great radio, a little hard to live with a times though. I don't think I'll ever sell mine.
From my limited use of digital modes, with my SignalLink USB, soundcard device. (I assume the MFJ is the same!?) I have found that the setup is like using a 3 part, set of weight scales. In order for everything to work, it all has to be very balanced. The radio, balanced with the Signalink, then all the settings within your PC program. A very tricky thing, which causes a lot of spurious cursing 🤬🤬🤬, heavy drinking 🥃🍺🍷, and spontaneous cranial combustion 😵💫🤪🤯🤕... Until you actually find harmonious balance within the force 🤗😊. Or... Maybe its just my Charlie Brown luck? 🤔
Yeah, this radio is a bit difficult, so I made that checklist to go over every time I switch in and out of FT8. Newer radios have a built in sound card and better menus so that transition better. The FT-891 is still a great rig though
Thanks for a great setup tutorial. What about drivers? I've seen older videos (~2020) where the op downloaded Silicon Labs SCU driver and on Yaesu's website they also have a Yaesu version or you don't need them anymore? Thanks.
Hello Steve! Great presentation at the point when I needed it most. I followed exactly your guidelines but the problem I face is this. I cannot get the receive level slider more than 30 db. I do not use an interface. I made a box with isolation transformers and connected to a cheap usb external soundcard. I have managed to make two contacts but that's all. Any help will be greatly appreciated. Do I definitely need an interface? Many thanks.
@@georget7047 So you mentioned RX levels and then talked about ALC (A TX Side thing) - your RX could be set through RF Gain/Squelch on the rig (outer knob, upper left) and your TX side should be just below the ALC threshold, maybe 1 bar on the meter to know that its working. Hope that helps - I'm back home now and could give it a better read.
Good question, I want to say yes, but not the blue ones I showed. I used shorter cables in the video because of cable sprawl. It does include the data cable to the radio for sure (6pin cable)
@@temporarilyoffline Do you have a link maybe for those blue usb cables. Those look like good shielded cables. Most of the cables online are not shielded. Thanks.
Thanks for the indepth video, Steve. I'm new to digital mode ham radio and have heard of using a Digirig for FT8. Is that anything like the mfj 1205 or just a specialized box for cables? Also, I saw UA-camr run FT8 on a Yaesu 818 connected to an android tablet. Can that work on my 891? Thanks for your thoughts, Michael
If you have a digirig, use it. The MFJ offers the controls on the front for volume in and out. Lots of options in this space - even just making a set of cables and using your PC's soundcard.
Excellent tutorial, thanks! One question: I can't seem to get to the WSJT-X page at Princeton. I've been there before, but the link doesn't seem to work for me now. I've even tried different browsers but to no avail. In Firefox the page never loads, and in Safari I can get to the Physics dept, but I can't seem to get to the software page. Any helpful hints? Cheers!
@thormusique try this one sourceforge.net/projects/wsjt-x-improved/files/WSJT-X_v2.6.0/macOS/ Either one is good and a bit of an updated experience. The developer of this version is one of the dev team of the main version.
My FT891 is now turning on SPL when transmitting in FT8. I’m using WSJT-X. Under Files/Settings CAT is COM6, Digirig is COM4, Baud 38400, data 8, stop 2, Handshake None. PTT CAT, Mode Data, Split Operation RIG. I tried FAKE IT. But that brought up an error message. Under CAT test I get a right failure message. Just tried it again…green light. PTT test gave red light. Why does Split turn on? Anyone have an idea & suggestion for correction? Thank you.
Having SPL on doesn't hurt anything, the software will move your radio's frequency to where it would be best suited for operations, both TX and RX - it's the operators choice to run split, fake it (which does the same thing without the radio's split function) and none (which does nothing). Have fun playing around with it
Not sure what is going on with Raspberry Pi now....this is yet another issue I cannot seem to get installed. Looked at many different sites, and tried multiple different routes(including trying to build it), and yet still....nothing. I'm loosing interest quickly in this project. 20 hours in the last 3 days and I'm not anywhere near closer to starting to Tx/Rx.
Neither of them were unique when created and they are slightly different inside. A ham like you or me figured out how to make it all work and then people started making products out of it. And now we have the digirig and CM108 cards and radios that have sound cards built in too.
I'm trying WSJT-X on 14.074.000, but each time I TX, my FT-891 transmits on 14.073.500. Using WSJT-X, SignaLink, and FT-891. Why does it jump down like that to TX? Thanks, CE4JDM
This is a "feature" - you have WSJT-X split mode set to either 'fake it" or "rig" and its moving to the best spot to TX based on where you are on the spectrum so that you get maximum signal out. The FT8 single you TX is only 50hz wide, and 73.5 is a better place for that signal to originate from.
That is the MFJ-849 (Made by Nissei) - MFJ version on ebay: ebay.us/JXnRm5 Nissei version on Amazon: amzn.to/3J26WK8 I love it - very easy to immediately tell what is going on with your station.
Bonjour, pour le JS8, est-ce le même réglage sur le 891 ? Merci. Pascal. 14FRA885. // Hello, for the JS8, is it the same setting on the 891? THANKS. Pascal. 14FRA885 (11m).
That was by far the best 891 FT8/digital mode set-up video that I've ever seen. (Sorry Josh, and others who have done one as well... this one is better). I appreciate the explanation as to WHAT each setting does and WHY you adjusted them to what you did. Now I'm going to go get my rig up and running and get some digital contacts going!
Wow, thanks!
I agree. I was beating my head against the wall wondering what was not working, so I followed along with this video and I don't know what detail did it but it worked. Thanks for being thorough and clear.
Thank you thank you!
I'm new to digital. I've watched hours upon hours of digital videos. Yours on FT8 is by far the best. I'm still learning. I'll subscribe and ck out your other videos to see if there are some on the other modes. Thanks!!
If you can't find it, let me know and I'll get it on the schedule to make one! Good luck!
Fantastic tutorial, this one will make the rounds for years.. side note: I watched on full screen during lunch break. Saw 1:36pm on your computer and freaked out a bit.. then reality kicked in so All Good :)
Close call!
Thanks for the great video! I was up and running with the FT-891 and the Tigertronics SignalLink in the time it took to watch the video. On thing I had to change was the Data Data Gain. You said it didn't matter and left it at 50. For me, The Data Mic Gain did nothing, and I had to change to change this one to 21 or the ALC was always way too high, no matter how low a TX setting I put on the SignalLink.
Oh, and I love your call (and shirt)! SAFETY FAST!!! I've got a 1969 MGBGT in British Racing Green that my dad bought new and kept it in the family. Not restored, but well maintained with about 140K miles. It still has the bumper mount on it from when I was in college, using my Kenwood TS-520S as a mobile rig for HF in it and the Heathkit HW-2036A for 2m. I never worried about running down the battery because you can start those cars on a slight hill and popping the clutch in reverse...
73's
John - WB0UVD
I had a 66 tourer and a 66 GT, I still want to get another one someday.
An excellent tutorial. I had an uncle who was a dairy farmer in Luck decades ago, I've actually been there! Als as you know that is where Duncan Yoyos were manufactured.
Thanks! The only place theater mentions Duncan is the luck museum.
This has been a great tutorial. I have a 1-yr old FT-891, and I have thought about digital modes. I'd like to use a digirig controller. My last venture into digital modes was 20+ years ago, and I used the MFJ-1278 for packet and AMTOR. I used packet for the DX Cluster, and I enjoyed RTTY and AMTOR a few times. I can still remember the QSO on RTTY, and the other ham asking if I have AMTOR capability. I gave him my 4 character identifier, and BOOM! My radio started TXing and RXing. Super cool. I'm hoping that new modes will be more exciting and fun.
The FT-891 is a GREAT radio for its price and form factor. I love mine. Here's hoping you have many great QSOs on your new radio setup and digital modes!
Hi Steve. Thank you for the excellent tutorial setting up the FT-891 with the MFJ Digilink. Once all the settings are in place everything works great. First complaint goes to MFJ - they DO NOT supply any USB cables whatsoever and you need two. So once you get your MFJ-1205 you cannot operate out of the box, unless you have 2 extra USB-A to B laying around. MFJ does not even mention that the USB cables are not provided on their website. I shot them an email about this matter. Second complaint goes to the Yaesu engineers for not adding separate digital operation profiles in the menu so you can quickly switch settings if you are using different audio interfaces. So I had to make a cheat sheet of the settings. The FT-891 in data mode is actually pretty quiet compared to my IC-7300 which makes lots more fan noise when running FT8.
Thanks!
Thanks for the info!
Great job! Sometime it is had to find someone to help you setup the newer modes on older radios. There are a lot of good older radios available out there that lower the entry threshold for new hams to get into that part of the hobby. This helps out those new hams as well as breathing new life into the old radios. My hat is off to you for that!
Thanks! I had trouble with this radio, fixed it and wanted to share. This is still a great radio.
I appreciate the detail, because there are several devices on the market, mine is a Digirig. However I learned to use the 3 program keys for MTR then Width, as the 891 forgets and it is easy to keep set with a button, and Monitor as I also listen to the signal being sent to make sure there is no over drive with ALC. 73's
Awesome! I try to put in as many tips as I can think up!
VERY informative - helped me understand my first POTA fail on the 891 with FT-8
Glad it helped!
TO , this is a really good video on FT8, the step by step was awesome. Thank you for making this video
You bet!
The 891 is really a bargain for a great radio. You describing the menus is very helpful. What is the biggest problem of the radio is they really were not built for digital modes. I wish there was software that would change the menus to and from digital modes so you can easily change to phone or CW. Then it would be a much better radio for everyone. Who has not been operating FT8 then cannot get phone or CW to work because you need to adjust the menus.
I would love to see them retire the firmware keys for these radios when they end-of-life them. I would love to see what the market could do with custom firmware!
@@temporarilyoffline I would agree, FLRIG comes close but not close enough. Note I think Yaesu fixed this with profiles on newer radios but no is not offering firmware updates.
The last firmware update for thr 891 wasn't that long ago. But since they didn't say ANYTHING it fixed, I didn't make a video.
@@temporarilyoffline Maybe we should be asking Yaesu why they don’t have profiles to support what we do for ham radio.
@@thuff3207 They aren't really good at sharing like that.
I have fought my 891 and FT8 for a week. Hours everyday. I found this video and it was exactly what I needed. Explained in a way this old fart could understand. Today was my first FT8 contact. I hit NY. Second contact was Hamamatsu Japan. Thank, you, Thank you, Thank you N7NHS
Thank you for the kind words, you make it all worth it!
May have been mentioned, but if you set the "soft" functions BEFORE selecting `Data/Pkt` in wsjt-x, you'll likely have to re-set the soft settings once the radio switches to digi mode, most likely when you click "Test CAT"
Thanks for the tip
Hi Steve,
I added the WDH button to Func B and every time I check on power up it it is still set to 3200 Hz. Guess I will now set MTR to Func B. Stay safe. 73 WJ3U
Yeah, I'm using MTR there myself. Good call!
Great video for FT8 with the FT-891 and Linux. I have an FT-891 currently running FT8 on Windows, but I am in the process of converting over to Linux. This is going to be a big help.
Good luck! Let me know if you run into a snag.
I keep coming back to this vid! And this time I downloaded and printed the cheatsheet! Thanks TO!
Fantastic! Glad it helps!
Fantastic! By far the best explanation of the 891 settings for FT-8 I’ve found. Thank you! 73
Glad it was helpful!
Thanks TO. Great video. I think if anyone has a semi-modern radio and a similar audio device, this should be helpful to them.
It also reminds me of why I am waiting on purchasing a NEW radio. Current connector technology is like future alien tech compared to what they are still using on amateur radios. They are slowly getting there, but I'd like to see more USB, DP, HDMI and other modern and/or digital connectors on radios. There is a reason the rest of the world mostly moved on from DIN PS2 Keyboard style connectors.
Exactly - a true USB-C would be amazing!
The radios and audio processors should be wireless Bluetooth. You can buy $40 mixers that join PC, mixer and source but not a $1500 wireless appliance? It demonstrates the truly unimaginative and entrenched style the Japanese corporate radio mentality is famous for. Look to other brands to develop theses methods before they do. It's just unfortunate that these companies are much smaller making their products expensive. I think those like FLEX will be those innovators while Yaesu and Icom rush to integrate Windows 7 to the market 😆😂😉
@@radiotests On Point Craig!
@@radiotests Yes, FLEX is a great example of a company that is ahead of the curve.
I agree that wireless should definitely be the end goal for radio data and audio, but until then I'm really only asking for modern hard wired connectors that haven't been around since the 70s. DIN is garbage.
How did you know that I was struggling to do this just yesterday?! Trying to do this with an RPi4, Signalink & FT891. It's surprisingly *not* easy to do.
I read your mind from a far using the power of RF! This tutorial is almost step by step what you need for your Signalink and I have used the Signalink for the FT-891 in the past. There are a ton of settings in the FT-891's menus - be sure to get the cheat-sheet!
Thank you!! You helped me get my FT891 working correctly.
Glad I could help!
Great video Steve - I have the FT-891 and the signal link - I bought the cables for the Icom IC-7000 and I think the same pin connections are used for the Yaesu. I need to dig it out and give it a try. Great explanation of the ALC - I did a short video almost a year ago on ALC, and you described it perfectly, its one of my popular videos and I think i did it in a rush. Well done
Thanks Glenn! I /believe/ the IC-7000 is the same as the 706, so it has a 13pin connector and the Yaesu has a 6pin connector. - This MFJ setup is almost identical to the signalink device inside.
@@temporarilyoffline I just looked it up the IC-7000 an it can use the 13pin or the 6 pin - I think i bought the 6 pin SLUSB6PM which on the tigertronics website has the FT-891 using the same 6 pin also the jumper module is the same so the jumper for data and PTT are the same - ill have to dig out the signal link after I move - currently my Ham gear is all in packing boxes have to give it a go - maybe someone has made a video on it....
Your making some great videos Steve! It's really nice to see programs to do radio effectively and not just shill some product for a site sponsor. It's what we all hope for when clicking a video to learn something new. The Quadra videos are great too! Keep up the great work 73 Craig
Thanks! Its a balance - I gotta pay the bills over here. I try to do some from column A and some from column B.
The most comprehensive setup tutorial I’ve seen. Thank you Steve. Is it possible to do a video of doing this with a SignalLink? I tried several times to make it work with SignalLink and can’t seem to get it done.
It would be the exact same steps, just the names of the device changes in the WSJT-X screen. Give it a shot!
@@temporarilyoffline I’m so sorry. Not a signalLink. But a DigiRig. Lol. My bad. Maybe I shouldn’t try radio or comment while I have the flu. Lol. But I will try it slowly and step by step your way and see if it works. Thanks.
@@_onthemike_ Yeah, the setup is 97% the same until you get to choosing the audio device in WSJT-X - I do have an FT-818 version that uses the digirig: ua-cam.com/video/sphtfRfsZvg/v-deo.html
Awesome video, appreciate all the info, and websites, I learned several things I will go adjust
Glad it was helpful!
Thanks! I have been avoiding FT8 with my 891 because i have all Linux AND a Signalink. I assume the set up is similar as what is presented here. I have been wanting to get going with the Digital stuff but I don’t have a Windows machine and this is the first one I’ve been able to understand how to work with Linux. THANK YOU and 73-KQ4FIP
Thanks for the tip! Yes, I used the signalink before using this device. Both work great!
Any special tip for configuring the Signalink.
@@kevinpoff8285 the device I used in the vid is a clone of the signalink. I think you just need to find the audio devices in your list and iff I remember correctly they are TI/Burr Brown, but it should be pretty obvious.
That’s what I was thinking. Thanks again.
I am getting a Rig Control Error. Hamlib error: IO error. Port_open: serial_open(/dev/ttyUSB0) status=-6, err=Permission denied iofunc.c(81):port_open return(-6)
Rig.c(795):rig_open return(-6) while opening connection to rig
Any suggestions?
The isolation transformers keep DC to DC out too, it will hum like mad if you dont..
Nice, thanks! I haven't experienced noise, but I know it had been a problem for a long time and the isolation transformers were the right answer.
Importantly, and also maybe superfluously, since if you're this entrenched in Linux you'll probably already know this, the audio input might not be alsa!
I point this out just in case anyone goes into the comments because they can't find "alsa-so-and-so-device".
There are a few potential options for audio sources and sinks in Linux, and alsa is just the one that Linux Mint uses (as do many, many others). It could also be pulse or pipewire, or a few other things.
Alsa is certainly very common, though.
The important thing is to look for the correct device name.
Great video! Looking forward to trying out ft8 in the coming months when I can find time to go take my general test.
Good points and one right back atcha: don't wait for general. 10m FT8 is worldwide right now.
@@temporarilyoffline well, the big thing is that I can't justify buying an HF rig to myself (or the wife) until I get my general. ;)
@@b4ux1t3-tech makes sense
Sweet , thanks , i got a 891 as my first radio!
Me too!
finally a linux based video for setup!! thanks for this....
You bet! I LOVE linux in the ham shack!
Good tutorial Steve. These are very helpful for any happy HAM.🐷👍
Thanks 👍
Great explanation! I like that 891, might get one for the truck!
Good choice! An ATAS too!
@@temporarilyoffline exactly!
I don’t have the FT891, nor use WSJT-X, but this was still very interesting. Great vid Steve, well presented. I suppose I’ll go shopping now!😂 cheers and 73
Its the only logical conclusion - you need a new radio! Thanks for watching.
@@temporarilyoffline - I’m trying to decide on an all rounder for portable, mobile and eventually shack ops. The 891 is the front runner ATM. Cheers & 73.
It was my first rig, has done a good job!
Thanks, your video helped me a lot!
Glad to hear that!
Timely. The recent storm killed my IC-7100, I shall miss her dearly. But, the Ft-891 will be here Monday. Cables, cables, cables.
Congrats, I'm sorry for you loss! Have you looked inside the 7100?
Awesome video TO, thank you for the great info!
You bet!
Great tutorial. Thanks!
Glad you liked it!
When do you sleep? Yet another useful video! Thank you.
I love making this stuff and helping out. Thanks for watching!
Need to try this on the INOVATO Quadra
It would work for sure
My kingdom for a way to change the default bandpass filter width for DATA mode on this radio. Every time I fire it up I end up looking at a waterfall that looks just like the one you showed, followed by a few choice words, followed by yet another enjoyable trip into Yaesu menu land.
I wonder if it's set-able via CAT - could write a simple script to fix it up.
@@temporarilyoffline SH0117 is the command if I'm reading it right. Bottom of page 16 of the FT-891 CAT Operation Reference Book. I'll probably setup a macro in ACLog for this. Good idea!
@@MattHeere I get one of those every so often...
Thanks TO, great info for me.
Glad to help
you’re transmitting at 100w but I thought digital mode was intended to be a lower wattage mode?
To be pedantic, but not argumentative: it's a "weak signal" mode, not a "low power" mode - so normal amateur rules apply - use the least amount of power needed to make the contact. I've worked far off DX at 400w that would not have worked at 5w. Thanks for watching and good DX!
Very informative. Thank you K2WPA
Any time!
I am starting to think you are tracking my browser history. 1st the Quadra and now the 891, weird that you are dropping videos on them as I debate with myself about hitting the buy now button hahaha.
Dooo iiiiiitttt!
@@temporarilyoffline You twisted my arm. Made the drive to HRO this morning and grabbed one lol
@JReed305 excellent!
Wonder if I could do this to my FT-900.
If it has the 6pin mini-din port on the back you can!
Great tutorial however the reward at the end of being able run ft8 doesn’t seem worth all the hassle.
Thanks for watching!
Great video Steve. What are your thoughts on the MFJ vs a Digirig ?
They are both great. I used a digirig in the 817 ft8 vid I did and that one will work with the 891 also.
Excellent TO!
Thanks GhostMan!
Maybe you can try my idea for making an FT8 interface setup for the 891 using parts from Ali for around $20. I think that would make a good video. I'll post about it in Toads with links to the parts if you're interested.
I forgot to mention (and I can't edit comments in UA-cam in this browser) I found inline audio isolation transformers to add to the setup with a 3.5mm jack and a pigtail with a 3.5mm plug. That should solve the possible issue of computer noise getting into the radio or vice-versa over the audio cables. :)
I'll looked for it, thanks!
Awesome video! Thanks for the information. I saw this on KM4ACK newsletter, and jumped over to watch it. Thanks, TO.
Glad it was helpful! Hope to see you on the air!
Useful video, thank you. But wow man, 100 watts on a 100% duty cycle mode on that poor little FT-891 cannot be a good idea. Great radio, but I feel sorry for its final output power transistors! I'd keep 100% duty cycle modes below 25 watts. Without checking, I think Yaesu recommend keeping power below 40 watts for full duty cycle modes. But to help longevity, I would not use more than 25 watts, myself. I'd want to preserve such a great little rig, not risk burning up the finals - or the ATU if one is being used, or the antenna if it's only rated 100 watts SSB - keep it to 25 to 30 watts. Be safe! 73
Sounds like a plan. Keep it between the navigational beacons.
Reset your mode while in digital if going back to lsb voice. FT891 is a PIA to get stuck in USB ,80m
Yeah, you have to redo a bunch of settings to swap in and out, and even after power off and per band. Great radio, a little hard to live with a times though. I don't think I'll ever sell mine.
@@temporarilyoffline Great Radio within those confines.
From my limited use of digital modes, with my SignalLink USB, soundcard device. (I assume the MFJ is the same!?) I have found that the setup is like using a 3 part, set of weight scales. In order for everything to work, it all has to be very balanced. The radio, balanced with the Signalink, then all the settings within your PC program.
A very tricky thing, which causes a lot of spurious cursing 🤬🤬🤬, heavy drinking 🥃🍺🍷, and spontaneous cranial combustion 😵💫🤪🤯🤕... Until you actually find harmonious balance within the force 🤗😊. Or... Maybe its just my Charlie Brown luck? 🤔
Yeah, this radio is a bit difficult, so I made that checklist to go over every time I switch in and out of FT8. Newer radios have a built in sound card and better menus so that transition better. The FT-891 is still a great rig though
Thanks for a great setup tutorial. What about drivers? I've seen older videos (~2020) where the op downloaded Silicon Labs SCU driver and on Yaesu's website they also have a Yaesu version or you don't need them anymore? Thanks.
I used a Raspberry Pi and Linux. If you do install in windows without the driver, you can fix it later with the right driver.
where did you get the power pole port for the back of your ft-891 ???
Here you go: ua-cam.com/video/95ytHg6KtBE/v-deo.html. Very easy mod
I wonder if the LDG 897+ tuna would work with this radio....something tells me yes...for when my FT897D dies.
I do believe it will - the 891 has the right port in the rear for the LDG tuner to plug into.
Hello Steve!
Great presentation at the point when I needed it most.
I followed exactly your guidelines but the problem I face is this.
I cannot get the receive level slider more than 30 db.
I do not use an interface.
I made a box with isolation transformers and connected to a cheap usb external soundcard.
I have managed to make two contacts but that's all.
Any help will be greatly appreciated.
Do I definitely need an interface?
Many thanks.
Try changing the volume settings on your interface's sound card?
I did. There is no change. If I increase the level from the sound control panel panel then the ALC goes up.
Thanks for the reply.
I appreciate it.
@@georget7047 So you mentioned RX levels and then talked about ALC (A TX Side thing) - your RX could be set through RF Gain/Squelch on the rig (outer knob, upper left) and your TX side should be just below the ALC threshold, maybe 1 bar on the meter to know that its working. Hope that helps - I'm back home now and could give it a better read.
Thanks!
You bet!
Does MFJ supply the USB cables as well, or I have to get those? Thanks for the great guide.
Good question, I want to say yes, but not the blue ones I showed. I used shorter cables in the video because of cable sprawl. It does include the data cable to the radio for sure (6pin cable)
@@temporarilyoffline Do you have a link maybe for those blue usb cables. Those look like good shielded cables. Most of the cables online are not shielded. Thanks.
Here you go: amzn.to/46FGoqd Some snap-on ferrites would be even more tasty! @@jolebole-yt
Thanks for the indepth video, Steve. I'm new to digital mode ham radio and have heard of using a Digirig for FT8. Is that anything like the mfj 1205 or just a specialized box for cables?
Also, I saw UA-camr run FT8 on a Yaesu 818 connected to an android tablet. Can that work on my 891? Thanks for your thoughts, Michael
Yes to all of that. This video will still help you get the digirig setup. FT8CN or FT8 Radio for android.
@@temporarilyoffline ANY reason to use the much larger and twice as expensive MFJ 1205 over the Digirig?
If you have a digirig, use it. The MFJ offers the controls on the front for volume in and out. Lots of options in this space - even just making a set of cables and using your PC's soundcard.
Excellent tutorial, thanks! One question: I can't seem to get to the WSJT-X page at Princeton. I've been there before, but the link doesn't seem to work for me now. I've even tried different browsers but to no avail. In Firefox the page never loads, and in Safari I can get to the Physics dept, but I can't seem to get to the software page. Any helpful hints? Cheers!
I've been having trouble with that site too. I believe it's mirrored on sourceforge and if you're on Linux it's in the Linux repositories.
@@temporarilyoffline Ah, ok, thanks! Actually I'm on MacOS, so I'm forging some new ground. Well, sort of but not really. ;-)
@thormusique try this one sourceforge.net/projects/wsjt-x-improved/files/WSJT-X_v2.6.0/macOS/
Either one is good and a bit of an updated experience. The developer of this version is one of the dev team of the main version.
@@temporarilyoffline This is excellent, thanks so much!
My FT891 is now turning on SPL when transmitting in FT8. I’m using WSJT-X. Under Files/Settings CAT is COM6, Digirig is COM4, Baud 38400, data 8, stop 2, Handshake None. PTT CAT, Mode Data, Split Operation RIG. I tried FAKE IT. But that brought up an error message. Under CAT test I get a right failure message. Just tried it again…green light. PTT test gave red light. Why does Split turn on? Anyone have an idea & suggestion for correction? Thank you.
Having SPL on doesn't hurt anything, the software will move your radio's frequency to where it would be best suited for operations, both TX and RX - it's the operators choice to run split, fake it (which does the same thing without the radio's split function) and none (which does nothing). Have fun playing around with it
@@temporarilyoffline Thank you very much!! I am still trying to get the hang of this new (to me) mode.
How is this vs the digirig?
I want to like the digirig, but I don't have one here to test out. I LOVE the small form factor. Might get one for the FT-818
Thank You sir
You're welcome!
tks for posting....73
You're welcome
@@temporarilyoffline have the same radio...tks
Hi Steve,
Did you install the Yaesu driver for the 891, or just plug in the USB cable to the computer? Stay safe. 73 WJ3U
I'm my case I just plugged in. That yaesu driver might be needed on windows though.
Not sure what is going on with Raspberry Pi now....this is yet another issue I cannot seem to get installed. Looked at many different sites, and tried multiple different routes(including trying to build it), and yet still....nothing. I'm loosing interest quickly in this project. 20 hours in the last 3 days and I'm not anywhere near closer to starting to Tx/Rx.
Join us over on the TOADs discord and we can help you out a little better than we can in UA-cam Chat: discord.gg/97tkMEc
Ironically the MFJ DigiLink, looks identical to the Tigertronics SignaLink. 🤔 Wierd!?
Neither of them were unique when created and they are slightly different inside. A ham like you or me figured out how to make it all work and then people started making products out of it. And now we have the digirig and CM108 cards and radios that have sound cards built in too.
Would you need to change the 1500 shifts 8-3 & 8-4 when working other data modes?
Depending on the mode, maybe. I would start here and make refinements.
I'm trying WSJT-X on 14.074.000, but each time I TX, my FT-891 transmits on 14.073.500. Using WSJT-X, SignaLink, and FT-891. Why does it jump down like that to TX? Thanks, CE4JDM
This is a "feature" - you have WSJT-X split mode set to either 'fake it" or "rig" and its moving to the best spot to TX based on where you are on the spectrum so that you get maximum signal out. The FT8 single you TX is only 50hz wide, and 73.5 is a better place for that signal to originate from.
@@temporarilyoffline Many, many thanks! That worked instantly and solved my problem!!!!!!
Dude, where'd you get your colored side rails from?
A 3d printer friend: www.thingiverse.com/thing:4757295
tnx
You're welcome!
Hi. Would this work with FT-857d. Thanks. Good video.
Yes, any Yaesu with the 6-pin accessory port. You'll need to go through 857's menus and "translate" from 891 speak, but all tye basics are there!
@@temporarilyoffline awesome. Keep up the excellent videos.
DigiRig?
I need to play with one, I've seen mixed results.
Have you connected an antenna on the 891 ...?
Nope
The width on my 891 only goes to 3000 hz. Does it need to be higher?😊
3000 is perfect.
What is that wattmeter/swr meter you are using with that big display ?
That is the MFJ-849 (Made by Nissei) - MFJ version on ebay: ebay.us/JXnRm5 Nissei version on Amazon: amzn.to/3J26WK8 I love it - very easy to immediately tell what is going on with your station.
But it's an M...F...J...
Anyway..It's NOT a frickin' RACE...
Speed ONLY counts in CW. Slow DOWN...
The tigertronics signalink works great for this thing also!
Amazing video!!!! Thank you for sharing. KI5VOY 73
Thank you very much!
Bonjour, pour le JS8, est-ce le même réglage sur le 891 ? Merci. Pascal. 14FRA885. // Hello, for the JS8, is it the same setting on the 891? THANKS. Pascal. 14FRA885 (11m).
Yes, it's very close