Thanks for the demo. The one important thing to understand is that these machines create is not yet "compost" as the end result. It's dried up and blended organic matter. It still needs to go through microbial breakdown to be used as fertilizer. It should go into an actual compost bin afterward.
Yeah, I totally agree. It's not organic matter yet. But at least I can directly dump it into the soil, and it will slowly break down. If I add raw food to soil, rats and rodents will smell it in minutes and make mess all over. If I traditionally compost, it takes 2 years due to year-long low temperatures in my area.
@@aerogardenexperiments oh absolutely, it's way better than burying raw food scraps! I guess I just don't like how these companies **Lomi in particular** tried to make it seem that the end product is fertilizer when it's really not, at least not yet. They've since backtracked, but some people buying these types of things still aren't aware. Anyway, this video will be very helpful for perspective buyers!
Very interesting appliance. Epic Gardening did a review on the Lomi. I have active compost piles and vermiculture bin, so I probably don’t need the appliance. But I can see where it would fit in with many people’s lives. As always, thank you for the video.
Thanks for the demo! I've been thinking about getting an electronic composter or a worm composter for my small indoor space. While I think worm composting results in better read-to-use compost, sometimes an electronic option is the best option for some people's needs. Please share an update with your thoughts after long term use 😊
Thanks for testing this. How much power does this consume? Depending on the source your local power provides, this could be less environmentally friendly than first imagined.
I was wondering how many watts this uses while running? Ah, I see I'm thinking like macgreiner. Since our electricity comes from a coal fired plant I'm always kwh conscious on these kind of things. I generally don't worry about my aerogardens because they are very low watt and the plants use carbon dioxide so it basically evens out. However, this gadget looks like it would use a fair amount of electricity while producing a "slow-burn" source of CO2, not counting what goes into the creation of the charcoal filter. Also, as TricycleTops mentioned, most vegetable scraps can go into making a good vegetable stock. Thanks for reviewing it, anyway. Love your channel.
The math I follow is based on how much nutrients I add in Aerogarden Harvest. For 2.5 liters of the Harvest model, I add 8 ml of nutrients. So, for 6.5 liters of Mufga, I add 20 ml of Aerogarden nutrients. Basically, 3.5 ml of nutrients for every 1 liter of water.
Most of these types of devices work by heating the metal container while stirring/grinding. That only really dries the material in contact with the hot surfaces. Instead, they should also have an air-fryer type convection blower to also rapidly dry out the rest of the material. Dry material is much more friable than damp stuff. I did an experiment a few months back where I had some tough vegetable stalks that constantly jammed my FoodCycler. I removed that fibrous material and dehydrated it in my turbo toaster oven at the same temperature I usually use to recharge my silica desiccant beads. A few hours later, I returned the drier material to the FoodCycler and this time, when the blade encountered a bundle of the fibers against it, the material shattered like glass instead of bending and clogging. Vitamix now has an improved version of the FoodCycler that doesn't jam as much, but the addition of an air fryer would make even that unit more reliable. The only issue might be the increased power requirement to run both heating elements at the same time on a standard 15A breaker circuit.
Interesting product, but a lot of stuff ie carrot peels/ends onions skins celery and so on can be sealed in a BIG ziplock bag in you freezer, when bag is full make great veggie stock...speaking of it would be interesting to see how the stock waste would go in this composter!?
Actually this seems more like a dehydrator - I’d actually like a dehydrator that worked like this for drying quantities of onions etc for storage! Is there any reason you can think of why it wouldn’t be safe to use for that? Assuming of course that you didn’t also use it for compost.
I got excited for a short period of time. I still use it now and then. A couple of things I want to call out: 1. This is not a real composter as titled. This makes the material ready for composting. It basically dehydrates the food which eliminates odors and the compost ready material is not attracted to rodents. 2. This consumes lots of energy. It's pretty much like running the conventional oven at 500°F for an hour. So, if the electricity is expensive, then it's not worth. The electricity is not so expensive in the area where I live, so I am OK to run it once a week. 3. We need to replace the filter after a couple of uses and the filter is very expensive. I am not there yet so I am not sure whether I am going to replace the filter or just throw away the device. 4. I see this more of a landfill saver. I deeply care about the sustainability and try to avoid landfill in every possible way. I am really proud of running this system and reduce 3-4 cubic feet of landfill every single week that is coming from my plant waste and food waste. Waste management charges me a lot for real composting so this is my alternative. Hope this information is helpful. Let me know if you have any further questions.
Yeah, as Hannah explained, natural composting takes time and requried specific conditions like high temperatures etc. Also, I always see lots of rodents can easily find the raw food, dig in, and create mess.
Not sure but I wonder too if after the process completes you couldn’t toss into a compost tumbler to finish up I may look into one of these you got me thinking lol Like you I do both aero garden ing and outdoor gardening 3 raised beds Thanks for the video
Have you bought this exact same model and it smells? Or, is it a different model that you got? I see this model comes with an activated charcoal which seems to be helping a lot controlling odors.
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Yay! A new video. I just found this channel, and I've been binge watching it.
It is addicting!
@@idahogardengirl942 It is! 😆
Thanks for the demo. The one important thing to understand is that these machines create is not yet "compost" as the end result. It's dried up and blended organic matter. It still needs to go through microbial breakdown to be used as fertilizer. It should go into an actual compost bin afterward.
Yeah, I totally agree. It's not organic matter yet. But at least I can directly dump it into the soil, and it will slowly break down. If I add raw food to soil, rats and rodents will smell it in minutes and make mess all over. If I traditionally compost, it takes 2 years due to year-long low temperatures in my area.
@@aerogardenexperiments oh absolutely, it's way better than burying raw food scraps! I guess I just don't like how these companies **Lomi in particular** tried to make it seem that the end product is fertilizer when it's really not, at least not yet. They've since backtracked, but some people buying these types of things still aren't aware. Anyway, this video will be very helpful for perspective buyers!
Very interesting appliance. Epic Gardening did a review on the Lomi. I have active compost piles and vermiculture bin, so I probably don’t need the appliance. But I can see where it would fit in with many people’s lives.
As always, thank you for the video.
Thanks for the demo! I've been thinking about getting an electronic composter or a worm composter for my small indoor space. While I think worm composting results in better read-to-use compost, sometimes an electronic option is the best option for some people's needs. Please share an update with your thoughts after long term use 😊
Interesting concept. I've been thinking about getting a wormery.
Thank you. So interresting ! As usual ;)
Thanks for testing this. How much power does this consume? Depending on the source your local power provides, this could be less environmentally friendly than first imagined.
yeah, power consumption is a great point to consider in terms of sustainability. I am waiting for my next electricity bill to compare.
Do you have any updates on the electricity bill and how it is doing with that?
Yeah, electricity bill spikes depending on usage. I am limiting the usage 2-3 times a month to stay in the lower slab.
@@aerogardenexperiments oh boy ok. I was planning on doing it everyday, have to observe our bill and see how feasible it is.
Where do you get filters if need to replace? And how long is last filter ?
You can make a compost tea to feed your aerogarden
I was wondering how many watts this uses while running?
Ah, I see I'm thinking like macgreiner. Since our electricity comes from a coal fired plant I'm always kwh conscious on these kind of things. I generally don't worry about my aerogardens because they are very low watt and the plants use carbon dioxide so it basically evens out. However, this gadget looks like it would use a fair amount of electricity while producing a "slow-burn" source of CO2, not counting what goes into the creation of the charcoal filter.
Also, as TricycleTops mentioned, most vegetable scraps can go into making a good vegetable stock.
Thanks for reviewing it, anyway. Love your channel.
Lots of eye-opening thoughts. I will consider all these thoughts going forward. Thank you.
Very nice. Thank you for sharing.
Awsome. I love the idea.
I have a question I know you can answer. How much aerogarden nutrients should I use in the Mufga unit??
The math I follow is based on how much nutrients I add in Aerogarden Harvest. For 2.5 liters of the Harvest model, I add 8 ml of nutrients. So, for 6.5 liters of Mufga, I add 20 ml of Aerogarden nutrients. Basically, 3.5 ml of nutrients for every 1 liter of water.
@@aerogardenexperiments Thank you so much ❤️
I think I will hold off purchasing until they perfect the grinding. If it is a proper composter it should handle the “stringy” bits.
Most of these types of devices work by heating the metal container while stirring/grinding. That only really dries the material in contact with the hot surfaces. Instead, they should also have an air-fryer type convection blower to also rapidly dry out the rest of the material. Dry material is much more friable than damp stuff. I did an experiment a few months back where I had some tough vegetable stalks that constantly jammed my FoodCycler. I removed that fibrous material and dehydrated it in my turbo toaster oven at the same temperature I usually use to recharge my silica desiccant beads. A few hours later, I returned the drier material to the FoodCycler and this time, when the blade encountered a bundle of the fibers against it, the material shattered like glass instead of bending and clogging. Vitamix now has an improved version of the FoodCycler that doesn't jam as much, but the addition of an air fryer would make even that unit more reliable. The only issue might be the increased power requirement to run both heating elements at the same time on a standard 15A breaker circuit.
What’s your electricity bill like?
Interesting product, but a lot of stuff ie carrot peels/ends onions skins celery and so on can be sealed in a BIG ziplock bag in you freezer, when bag is full make great veggie stock...speaking of it would be interesting to see how the stock waste would go in this composter!?
Freezing and making stock from peels sounds like a great idea.
Actually this seems more like a dehydrator - I’d actually like a dehydrator that worked like this for drying quantities of onions etc for storage! Is there any reason you can think of why it wouldn’t be safe to use for that? Assuming of course that you didn’t also use it for compost.
How much cost electricity after 8 hours use?
Awesome!..I need something like that
Can you post a scan of the documentation that came with it? I cannot find any documentation for it online
Sorry, it was a very long time ago I bought it and, I think, I discarded all the materials. Let me see if I can find anything.
Are you still enjoying this Idoo composter? I’m thinking of getting one.
I got excited for a short period of time. I still use it now and then. A couple of things I want to call out:
1. This is not a real composter as titled. This makes the material ready for composting. It basically dehydrates the food which eliminates odors and the compost ready material is not attracted to rodents.
2. This consumes lots of energy. It's pretty much like running the conventional oven at 500°F for an hour. So, if the electricity is expensive, then it's not worth. The electricity is not so expensive in the area where I live, so I am OK to run it once a week.
3. We need to replace the filter after a couple of uses and the filter is very expensive. I am not there yet so I am not sure whether I am going to replace the filter or just throw away the device.
4. I see this more of a landfill saver. I deeply care about the sustainability and try to avoid landfill in every possible way. I am really proud of running this system and reduce 3-4 cubic feet of landfill every single week that is coming from my plant waste and food waste. Waste management charges me a lot for real composting so this is my alternative.
Hope this information is helpful. Let me know if you have any further questions.
Why would it shut down and have all the light come on?
It means, the blade got stuck due to some tough material in your food scraps. I see this often when I put plant matter like small woody branches.
Thanks
Would the food not break down in the landfill? I like it for making compost for the garden. Just not the aerogarden 😄
Composting requires the right conditions food does not break down when sent to the landfill
Yeah, as Hannah explained, natural composting takes time and requried specific conditions like high temperatures etc. Also, I always see lots of rodents can easily find the raw food, dig in, and create mess.
8 hours??🙄 how much power does it consume??
Yeah, it takes a lot of power. It is almost running a conventional oven at 400-500° F.
I brought it . But inside the home bed smells . When 5-6 hours processing very bed smells inside home .
Not sure but I wonder too if after the process completes you couldn’t toss into a compost tumbler to finish up
I may look into one of these you got me thinking lol
Like you I do both aero garden ing and outdoor gardening 3 raised beds
Thanks for the video
I bought one too but it smells
Have you bought this exact same model and it smells? Or, is it a different model that you got? I see this model comes with an activated charcoal which seems to be helping a lot controlling odors.
@@aerogardenexperiments Mine smelled before i realized i did not remove the seals to the filter. once i removed those, it doesn't smell.
Had my iDoo composter for less than 5 months and it quit working. IDoo didn't honor their warranty. I believe their product is a waste of money.