Forneus: a rather simple boss fight that's easy if you exploit his weakness to electricity Specter: a slightly harder fight that requires careful planning and tactics Matador: *EN GARDE FUCKBOY*
@@Spherecode. My team was made entirely out of Fiends. I also really like him for how he alone managed to teach me how to properly play the game. Daisoujou and Mother Harlot are really good too!
Matador showed me that i needed to do more than just mindlesly grind. I needed tactics, skills, preparation. I died ALLOT but each death made me learn and i murdered all of the fiends.
That's the thing about Fiends, man. They're like "hey, how've you been doing? Typical RPG you say? A little hard to grind, yeah, well, that's because you're not supposed to be grinding my friend. Oh? You disagree. Well, let me show you why ****I**** disagree."
Thanks for the upload. The Fiends are some of the most amazing bosses in recent JRPG history. I liked the Book of Revelations theme on them, and the settings were always pretty amazing. The fight with the Trumpeter still haunts me.
+Why are there no good names left? At least you got to save right before fighting him, instead of having to trek through the entire dungeon without a save point and losing a lot of exp on each attempt.
I think I overprepared for Matador, because I heard so much that he would be impossibly difficult. Instead, I beat his ass so hard he never had chance to use Andalucia. Dark Might + buffs = many press turns for big numbers. I'm a little disappointed... The atmosphere of the fight was amazing though, and I can imagine he really is the Grim Reaper of a lot of players, the way he pops out of nowhere like that. I guess I'll go through the rest of the game totally blind... should be fun :)
+Harkz0r Same for me. But I have to admit that the first time I encountered him, he rekt me lol. But then I prepared so much for the second attempt that he got his ass slapped like a bitch lol.
Matador is supposed to be the boss that teaches you "if you don't take time out of your schedule build a team for the boss that's up ahead, said boss will grind you into the dirt". The reason Matador is infamous in this regard is that he comes out of NOWHERE if you're not using a guide, so you didn't know you needed to have your anti-Boss team ready yet
Yeah bright might completely breaks Nocturne. People avoid using it because they’re too proud and think they’re better gamers for not using all ressources available.
TylightDark i'm sorry to say but the Maniax version (the one you're referring to) was only released in Japan, so it will likely be the American version
TylightDark The Maniax version IS the one with Dante (and the Amala Labyrinth, etc). They released another version of the Maniax version with Raidou in it as a bonus when buying one of the Raidou games. As far as I know, it's still the same Maniax version... but with Raidou, instead.
AusSP Yeah, when Atlus got around to localizing this game, Maniax edition was already out, so they translated that version and just omitted Maniax from the title, the same thing happen in the PAL region regarding Final Fantasy X, the International version came out before the PAL region got the normal version, so Square just did some extra translation work and released that version in Europe with International omitted, the Maniax Edition of SMT III with Raidou in it is called the Maniax Chronicle Edition.
The hardest fiend on my first play through was Hell Biker just because I was a low level at that point. So after enough grinding and getting two demons that one could null fire and the other for wind I won. Basically after that the fiend battles became easier (though some took a second try after learning patterns and what not). I also actually fused Daisoujou as soon as I hit 37 and used him to the end. Got to love Prayer and Meditation, those are the reason I used him for that long.
@jackstone112 Definately. To be honest, its like they took a quick glance at the game and thought "oh ... lucifer's in it. and he's "calling" the player to his path. Lets call it Lucifer's call!", all the while failing to realise that not only is following lucifer only ONE path, the hardest path, but in calling it that they're kind of spoiling the fact that yeah, Lucifer's that guy telling you what to do. Nocturne fits the whole game without spoiling anything.
Everybody dunkin' on Matador, but in my opinion, he's actually a good wake-up call. He appears early enough in the game, he teaches the importance of the most basic yet most important rule of MegaTen, and he appears early enough with enough foreshadowing that he doesn't completely blindside you. Grinding and strength/weakness match-ups might have gotten you to the endgame in Pokémon, but this ain't Pokémon. It's MegaTen, and it will bite off your head and mount it on a pike if you don't act like your life's on the line every time you walk into a new dungeon.
Rayquaza: “Demon, who dares defy the Order I righteously uphold...Your lot shall sink further than the deepest abyss, below the darkest oceans, beyond the splendor of the heavens...Until your very memory is lost to time. Perish, child of destruction!”
People say luck is worthless in rpg's but the irony is luck helps you crit a lot more and also makes it to where you dont take critical hits so luck is a good stat to have sometimes.
When I was 100% completing the compendium I used sacrificial fusion to give more levels to demons who needed to evolve. This required summoning and subsequently sacrificing a demon that was several levels above it's base level over and over and over again. I chose Matador to be that demon. It was a nice bit of revenge for what he put me through :)
La Nausée I'd agree with that, I think that's because Nocturne has a more consistent melody and bass, whereas SMT4's is all over the place. I mean in the SMT4 version there's what sound like screams, gasps and rattling noises in the background, chilling string sections, and those chimes at the beginning which sound like death. Nocturne is more subtle and atmospheric.
Well, I had Fog Breath, but my character's stats were focused on Strength and not Vitality and Magic. I just didn't know much about SMT games at the time, so I know better now. Thanks for the advice!
@pittlenutz A nice strategy I found for Trumpeter is this: bring a low level demon (like Kodama or Hua Po) so that when he does the insta-kill it will kill that weak demon. then revive it but don't re-summon it until he will do insta-kill again and re-summon it (still with 1 HP) the turn before he does the insta-kill.
It bothers me when people who say luck is worthless go on like "oh critical hit, unlucky" Or "I got a critical, how lucky" When the luck stat manipulates crits in your favor.
yes , magic and status boost in SMTN was very dependable and cannot be played without it. It was hard and in beginning of the game, we didnt got a chance to find many strong spells ans caster.
@ZombiesOnIce No kidding, especially since the game disc wasn't the least bit scratched. It was like the game had never been played. I found it by using Gamestop's Store Locator where you put in your address and it tells you where the nearest copy of the game is. For me the nearest store that had it was only about a 20 minute drive away.
My end game team from Fourth Kalpa onward was Harlot, Black Frost and Daisoujou. The game became easy mode once I got those three together. All three with Debilitate and Prayer was ridiculous.
Huh, I've just noticed something... That Lilim design in the strategy guide is the other one (the one Kaneko didn't make), which is not present in Nocturne.
Pretty much and in some cases in other games luck also affects other things as well but it depends on the game your playing, still luck if utilized properly is fun to use like a lot of luck and str makes you a critical frenzy person and in some games that supports critical magic dmg you can pair luck and magic stats together for critical mage esk builds.
@Arashile Yeah. The game starts off fairly easy and a few enemies are annoying, then Matador pops up out of nowhere and kicks your ass hard if you don't know what you're doing. He serves as a pop quiz that tells you that buffs and debuffs are important, and typings can make or break a fight.
I actually bought a ps2 again just to play this, i got this and a few other "treasured" ps1 & 2 titles, funny thing was when i managed to find my old mem card i found my "lucifer's Call" saves. I Immedieatly started playing my PT2 with the compendium alrdy FULL. I'll be haviung fun for the next month. I Also Agree Daisoujou is the best "Fiend" To have, if i remember, he can fully heal you party removes afflictions steal boss MP and his spl casting is 2nd to queen mab
That is true enough. Last time I fought him though I was so over-prepared that it wasn't even funny. I have a habit of ending up doing things like that at times. An example would be what I did against Beelzebub's human form in Digital Devil Saga. :P
Matador has put me in a rut. Not that he's too hard, I get that the fight is a wake up call to new players and that I need to spam buffs and debuffs, but I had to grind to level 18 for an Uzume and am now re-recruiting a bunch of demons to find out which one has a good debuff. Have not made progress on the game in like a week. This is the only game in the series where I've had to grind this much and it sucks.
@SethSandwhisper Only if feeling awesome after finally defeating a difficult boss counts as masochism. Plus, I love the Fiends mainly for their design.
Matador Taunt; Flauros War Cry, Harlot Makakaja Repeat Red Capote, Tarukaja, Harlot's Beast Roar signature Andalucia, Death bound, Attack Meanwhile demifiend is either healing or focusing and throwing out Freikugel. And then thor for immediate backup. Also, I had a badass succubus and Scathach. Had I finished Hard Mode (cycle 2), I may have ended up with a level 99 Succubus as my ultimate demon. Dat Life drain + Dismal Tune
@KagamineLenQ8 I started the game for the first time recently and just fought Matador last night. One of my demons was weak to Force, I didn't have Media, and the only buffs/debuffs I had were Sukukaja and Sukunda. I BARELY managed to beat him, and I had to waste a bead chain.
Honestly this theme is the LUCIFER tier and and the SMTV one is thrash but the demi fiend theme of SMTV is way heavier than his other appearance as a boss
strange i must have been overly prepared cuz i annihilated daisoujou lol but i got beat like a pansy from all the others. (with the exception of hell biker i beat him bad too)
the game overall was badass when it came out. When it did I was in job corps in 2003. for me fighting lucifer is a chore in its own since i went the demon route. I may have to start the game all over again since i didn't know that u needed the move frukigel( if i spelled it right) to beat him. can anyone tell me if its the game or the system but it takes a while for the characters to show on screen but the music plays right away usually but if i open the tray and close it the game goes better
I can see Lilim, Flauros, Decarabia, Chimera, Incubus, Samael, Berith (to the left of Flauros), but what's the one to the right of Samael? (I haven't played this game, but some are in P3/4 with the same designs)
I never found Lucifer all that hard (yeah, he weren't easy, but I never died on him) But I did get a lot of critical hits and another one of my demons had Pierce, so I had 2 major damage dealers, a healer/buffer and a de-buffer. Getting more turns in the fight helped a lot, I think it was my high luck (fie on people who say luck is worthless, saved me constantly)
i made the silly mistake of playing on hard for my first play through im still going at it though and im not that far just beat the matador. trying to grind is pretty frustrating.
Trumpeter was easy for me o_O... My strategy - First Turn - MC, Taunt Second Turn - Black Frost, Taunt Third TurnDaisojou - Dekaja Fourth Turn - Sui-Ki (had himm accidently in party) - Glacial Blast - 1k damage from 2 hits. His turn - Mazandyne, Maziodyne - everyone alive First turn - MC - Focus Second Turn - Black Frost Prominence - 1 k Third Turn - Daisoujou Prayer Fourt Turn - Glacial Blast - 1k He used some madyne again First turn - Divine shot for 1500 etc Repeated 3 or 4 times and he died.
Daisoujou is freaking hard! I gave up on this game because there was no possible way for me to beat him. I'm of course going to try and beat it after I finish DDS 1 and 2 though.
Plot summary: "DEMONS" "The world is pregnant" "DEMONS, DEMONS" "Megidolaon" "HAVE YOU EVER SEEN THIS MANY DEMONS" "Beast Eye, Megidolaon" "FEATURING DANTE FROM THE DEVIL MAY CRY SERIES, DEMONS TOO" "You saved the world, maybe fucked it up, fuck if I know, bai"
I just focused all my points into Strength, so every time he used meditation, I was pretty screwed. I really liked Daisoujou in Persona 3 though, he was very useful.
I thought I was gonna lose: out of demons, out of mana, one more of those stab barrages and I would've been a goner. Launched a normal attack to spite him. K.O.
It does sound like a mix of Alice from Imagine and SMT II before fighting Lucifer. :) Well it is MOSTLY composed of that Lucifer part but the Alice part i'm not so sure xD.
@bahamuta lol nah. I found a preowned copy at a Gamestop for $26 a little over a week ago. I just finished the 3rd Kalpa in the Labyrinth of Amala (the furthest I'd ever gotten in the Labyrinth, PERIOD). I tore Dante apart at the end too :D My Party was my MC, Daisoujou, Matador, and Angel (trust me, she's alot better than your average Angel). Both Daisoujou and Matador could drain HP and MP from enemies, Angel had Dia, and I had tons of items stocked up for my MC to use when necessary.
but on another note besides my game not reading fast enough. I would say the hardest fight out of all the bosses was probly the Moire Sisters. Trumpeter for me was a little tough he wiped me out once and then I beat him the second time around after i learned his pattern of healing and instant KO. on my game i used Daisouju to heal and he was usually the one lowest on HP when the trumpeter healed and was always had full hp when the trumpeter instant ko'ed
Kagutsuchi was literally a JOKE boss. I just focused and kajad a little and smacked the guy around for 2 or 3k every round and only needed to heal every so often, usually the round he -skipped- to talk to me about nothing and just let me beat his ass into the ground. And the crits got me like 5 or 6 turns a round so I just beat him down faster than he could cope with it. Flauros + Harlot/Uriel + Matador/Thor = ass whipping
Forneus: a rather simple boss fight that's easy if you exploit his weakness to electricity
Specter: a slightly harder fight that requires careful planning and tactics
Matador: *EN GARDE FUCKBOY*
Read this with videogamedunkey's voice
@@ChampionSushima you guys get to the final phase? (this is outdated I've finished the game)
@@ChampionSushima you guys dont get oneshoted in 1 enemy turn?
Fax
@@escadrums2 I read this in Itsagundam's voice, I'm dying.
ENTER THE BONE ZONE
Party: All buff limit already reached!
Fiend: Dekaja
Dragon Eyes
Summon Ally
Summon Ally
Rakunda
Rakunda
Dekaja
White Rider battle in a Nutshell.
matador doesn't have dekaja
@@tommygreenyt "Yes, I got rid of his buffs."
Matador: *uses Red Capote*
@@windmage01 he does not use it if keep his evasion at + 1
@@tommygreenyt I know that. You use Sukunda three times and Sukukaja four times.
GET READY PEOPLE, IT'S TIME FOR MR. BONES' WILD RIDE~!
MR. BONES I WANT TO GET OFF YOUR WILD RIDE!
@@whiplasher1599 you cannot escape his wild ride
Rattle'em boys.
No please no more swords in my ass
THE RIDE NEVER ENDS!
I kept Matador in my team from the moment I got him until the end. Worth it.
I did the same but he transofrmed into THE Pixie at the end.I gotta say I kinda liked that bro moment
Why Matador? There’s many better fiends like Daisojuo and mother harlot
Cause Matador is bae
@@Spherecode. My team was made entirely out of Fiends. I also really like him for how he alone managed to teach me how to properly play the game. Daisoujou and Mother Harlot are really good too!
@@Spherecode. unbased not using gigachad sexy hell biker
Matador showed me that i needed to do more than just mindlesly grind. I needed tactics, skills, preparation.
I died ALLOT but each death made me learn and i murdered all of the fiends.
That's the thing about Fiends, man. They're like "hey, how've you been doing? Typical RPG you say? A little hard to grind, yeah, well, that's because you're not supposed to be grinding my friend. Oh? You disagree. Well, let me show you why ****I**** disagree."
Debilitate, "limit reached"
Enemy turn: DEKUNDA
@@rdu239 thank you shin megami tensei: nocturne
Not me lol. I quite literally just kept it on rush the entire time.
Samuel L. Jackson: "Hold on to your buffs"
If only this song featured Dante from Devil May Cry
And Knuckles
If only Dante from Devil May Cry featured this song
He got better theme
Thanks for the upload. The Fiends are some of the most amazing bosses in recent JRPG history. I liked the Book of Revelations theme on them, and the settings were always pretty amazing. The fight with the Trumpeter still haunts me.
Aaaah, this is probably my favourite music in the whole game!
Love the Fiends, too, especially Daisojou!
Who's ready to get their ass kicked by spooky skeletons in HD?
“I challenge you to a duel!”
*Duel Disk On*
Pot Of Greed lol
But what does Beast Eye do?
It allows you to gain 2 turns by using 1 of your turn
1v1 me bro SMT Dx2 right now lol
ANDALUCIAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
+Why are there no good names left?
At least you got to save right before fighting him, instead of having to trek through the entire dungeon without a save point and losing a lot of exp on each attempt.
*High pitched* Hyaaa!
*Skeletons sounds*
does any one else think nocturne fits this title so much more then lucifer's call?
Yes I do.
"That's quite the agility debuff you put on me. Be quite a shame if I suddenly just did *_RED CAPOTE_* "
Holy melody and evil melody
Tarunda... Rakukaja.... Mediaaaaaa
*when fighting matador...
I think I overprepared for Matador, because I heard so much that he would be impossibly difficult. Instead, I beat his ass so hard he never had chance to use Andalucia. Dark Might + buffs = many press turns for big numbers. I'm a little disappointed...
The atmosphere of the fight was amazing though, and I can imagine he really is the Grim Reaper of a lot of players, the way he pops out of nowhere like that. I guess I'll go through the rest of the game totally blind... should be fun :)
+Harkz0r Same for me. But I have to admit that the first time I encountered him, he rekt me lol. But then I prepared so much for the second attempt that he got his ass slapped like a bitch lol.
Matador is supposed to be the boss that teaches you "if you don't take time out of your schedule build a team for the boss that's up ahead, said boss will grind you into the dirt". The reason Matador is infamous in this regard is that he comes out of NOWHERE if you're not using a guide, so you didn't know you needed to have your anti-Boss team ready yet
How did it go?
Yeah bright might completely breaks Nocturne. People avoid using it because they’re too proud and think they’re better gamers for not using all ressources available.
I challenge you to a duel!
Fiend Matador Slayer of a Thousand Noobs "dekaja your red capote"
Oh cool, White Rider, I wonder what he does...oh, God's Bow. Why am I dead? What is this shit? XD
The big News if you have PS3, SMT Nocturne comes out to PSN TODAY !!!!
Dante or Raidou?
If it's Raidou, I have a reason to buy the game. Otherwise I won't since I already have the PS2 version.
TylightDark i'm sorry to say but the Maniax version (the one you're referring to) was only released in Japan, so it will likely be the American version
Yeah, I know, but I was hoping that maybe, juuuust maybe we could have gotten it. :/
I thought Maniax was the one with Dante though? Eh. Whatever. :v
TylightDark The Maniax version IS the one with Dante (and the Amala Labyrinth, etc). They released another version of the Maniax version with Raidou in it as a bonus when buying one of the Raidou games. As far as I know, it's still the same Maniax version... but with Raidou, instead.
AusSP
Yeah, when Atlus got around to localizing this game, Maniax edition was already out, so they translated that version and just omitted Maniax from the title, the same thing happen in the PAL region regarding Final Fantasy X, the International version came out before the PAL region got the normal version, so Square just did some extra translation work and released that version in Europe with International omitted, the Maniax Edition of SMT III with Raidou in it is called the Maniax Chronicle Edition.
He's still crazy difficult unless you prepare for him by bringing Wind-resistant demons.
I'm just getting into SMT as a whole, but I have to admit, the music is awesome!
i can hear trumpeter dooting in the distance
Thank you, I've been looking for this one!
The hardest fiend on my first play through was Hell Biker just because I was a low level at that point. So after enough grinding and getting two demons that one could null fire and the other for wind I won. Basically after that the fiend battles became easier (though some took a second try after learning patterns and what not). I also actually fused Daisoujou as soon as I hit 37 and used him to the end. Got to love Prayer and Meditation, those are the reason I used him for that long.
Who's here after the HD Remaster trailer?
"I swear by my cape and capote...that I will once again be victorious!"
He wasn't kidding...pure luck, that's how I beat him...
Bruh why tf does abaddon's teeth look better than mine
Whoa, where did you find this artwork? I'm a huge SMT Nocturne fan and I've never seen it before!
In that moment I knew I should turn off my PS3.
@jackstone112 Definately. To be honest, its like they took a quick glance at the game and thought "oh ... lucifer's in it. and he's "calling" the player to his path. Lets call it Lucifer's call!", all the while failing to realise that not only is following lucifer only ONE path, the hardest path, but in calling it that they're kind of spoiling the fact that yeah, Lucifer's that guy telling you what to do. Nocturne fits the whole game without spoiling anything.
Everybody dunkin' on Matador, but in my opinion, he's actually a good wake-up call. He appears early enough in the game, he teaches the importance of the most basic yet most important rule of MegaTen, and he appears early enough with enough foreshadowing that he doesn't completely blindside you. Grinding and strength/weakness match-ups might have gotten you to the endgame in Pokémon, but this ain't Pokémon. It's MegaTen, and it will bite off your head and mount it on a pike if you don't act like your life's on the line every time you walk into a new dungeon.
“I’ve got a bone to pick with ya!”
Trumpeter :(
Had to fuse a weaker monster just to beat him.
Rayquaza: “Demon, who dares defy the Order I righteously uphold...Your lot shall sink further than the deepest abyss, below the darkest oceans, beyond the splendor of the heavens...Until your very memory is lost to time. Perish, child of destruction!”
rayquaza isn't even in smt
wrong game
People say luck is worthless in rpg's but the irony is luck helps you crit a lot more and also makes it to where you dont take critical hits so luck is a good stat to have sometimes.
Matador is my all time favorite, to fight with demons never looked that cool in Earth the millenium 2000.
Rock on.
Music to listen to while you get your ass kicked by some skeletons who are bad to the bone. Get those buffs and debuffs ready.
When I was 100% completing the compendium I used sacrificial fusion to give more levels to demons who needed to evolve. This required summoning and subsequently sacrificing a demon that was several levels above it's base level over and over and over again. I chose Matador to be that demon. It was a nice bit of revenge for what he put me through :)
I play this whenever I drink milk
This sounds much better than the SMT IV remix
i agree o3o
No I think SMTIV sounded way better. It had more intensity. This feels amateur ish in comparison.
La Nausée I think what you meant to say is that Nocturne has more of an atmospheric soundtrack.
La Nausée I'd agree with that, I think that's because Nocturne has a more consistent melody and bass, whereas SMT4's is all over the place. I mean in the SMT4 version there's what sound like screams, gasps and rattling noises in the background, chilling string sections, and those chimes at the beginning which sound like death. Nocturne is more subtle and atmospheric.
Let's compare PS2 music to handheld.
Well, I had Fog Breath, but my character's stats were focused on Strength and not Vitality and Magic. I just didn't know much about SMT games at the time, so I know better now. Thanks for the advice!
@pittlenutz A nice strategy I found for Trumpeter is this: bring a low level demon (like Kodama or Hua Po) so that when he does the insta-kill it will kill that weak demon. then revive it but don't re-summon it until he will do insta-kill again and re-summon it (still with 1 HP) the turn before he does the insta-kill.
When you re starving and decide to go to the kitchen in the middle of the night....
It bothers me when people who say luck is worthless go on like "oh critical hit, unlucky" Or "I got a critical, how lucky" When the luck stat manipulates crits in your favor.
yes , magic and status boost in SMTN was very dependable and cannot be played without it. It was hard and in beginning of the game, we didnt got a chance to find many strong spells ans caster.
They remixed this theme in SMTV, but this still feels 100% better.
Pure Epicness!
@ZombiesOnIce No kidding, especially since the game disc wasn't the least bit scratched. It was like the game had never been played. I found it by using Gamestop's Store Locator where you put in your address and it tells you where the nearest copy of the game is. For me the nearest store that had it was only about a 20 minute drive away.
My end game team from Fourth Kalpa onward was Harlot, Black Frost and Daisoujou. The game became easy mode once I got those three together. All three with Debilitate and Prayer was ridiculous.
Huh, I've just noticed something... That Lilim design in the strategy guide is the other one (the one Kaneko didn't make), which is not present in Nocturne.
I always felt so small when i had to fight the fiends ._.
Pretty much and in some cases in other games luck also affects other things as well but it depends on the game your playing, still luck if utilized properly is fun to use like a lot of luck and str makes you a critical frenzy person and in some games that supports critical magic dmg you can pair luck and magic stats together for critical mage esk builds.
@Arashile Yeah. The game starts off fairly easy and a few enemies are annoying, then Matador pops up out of nowhere and kicks your ass hard if you don't know what you're doing.
He serves as a pop quiz that tells you that buffs and debuffs are important, and typings can make or break a fight.
I actually bought a ps2 again just to play this, i got this and a few other "treasured" ps1 & 2 titles, funny thing was when i managed to find my old mem card i found my "lucifer's Call" saves. I Immedieatly started playing my PT2 with the compendium alrdy FULL. I'll be haviung fun for the next month. I Also Agree Daisoujou is the best "Fiend" To have, if i remember, he can fully heal you party removes afflictions steal boss MP and his spl casting is 2nd to queen mab
赤のカポーテ
マハザン
挑発
血のアンダルシア
That is true enough. Last time I fought him though I was so over-prepared that it wasn't even funny. I have a habit of ending up doing things like that at times. An example would be what I did against Beelzebub's human form in Digital Devil Saga. :P
Matador has put me in a rut. Not that he's too hard, I get that the fight is a wake up call to new players and that I need to spam buffs and debuffs, but I had to grind to level 18 for an Uzume and am now re-recruiting a bunch of demons to find out which one has a good debuff. Have not made progress on the game in like a week. This is the only game in the series where I've had to grind this much and it sucks.
Actually I beat him an hour after posting this comment. Hot damn!
@SethSandwhisper Only if feeling awesome after finally defeating a difficult boss counts as masochism.
Plus, I love the Fiends mainly for their design.
Matador Taunt; Flauros War Cry, Harlot Makakaja
Repeat
Red Capote, Tarukaja, Harlot's Beast Roar signature
Andalucia, Death bound, Attack
Meanwhile demifiend is either healing or focusing and throwing out Freikugel. And then thor for immediate backup.
Also, I had a badass succubus and Scathach. Had I finished Hard Mode (cycle 2), I may have ended up with a level 99 Succubus as my ultimate demon. Dat Life drain + Dismal Tune
@KagamineLenQ8
I started the game for the first time recently and just fought Matador last night.
One of my demons was weak to Force, I didn't have Media, and the only buffs/debuffs I had were Sukukaja and Sukunda. I BARELY managed to beat him, and I had to waste a bead chain.
And then the demons died. Twice.
Honestly this theme is the LUCIFER tier and and the SMTV one is thrash but the demi fiend theme of SMTV is way heavier than his other appearance as a boss
the jrpg version of "Git Good"
What's that?
You're under level and you don't have any demons with void force?
Red capote :3
Speaking of Digital Devil Saga, I should continue that one. I'm in Ajna now, but then other games stole my attention :P
strange i must have been overly prepared cuz i annihilated daisoujou lol but i got beat like a pansy from all the others. (with the exception of hell biker i beat him bad too)
the game overall was badass when it came out. When it did I was in job corps in 2003. for me fighting lucifer is a chore in its own since i went the demon route. I may have to start the game all over again since i didn't know that u needed the move frukigel( if i spelled it right) to beat him. can anyone tell me if its the game or the system but it takes a while for the characters to show on screen but the music plays right away usually but if i open the tray and close it the game goes better
I can see Lilim, Flauros, Decarabia, Chimera, Incubus, Samael, Berith (to the left of Flauros), but what's the one to the right of Samael?
(I haven't played this game, but some are in P3/4 with the same designs)
I see a Bicorn in there. Eligor's near Flauros, but you have to look really hard, and there's Forneus, too.
GET READY FOR A SKELETAL SKIRMISH!
I never found Lucifer all that hard (yeah, he weren't easy, but I never died on him) But I did get a lot of critical hits and another one of my demons had Pierce, so I had 2 major damage dealers, a healer/buffer and a de-buffer.
Getting more turns in the fight helped a lot, I think it was my high luck (fie on people who say luck is worthless, saved me constantly)
i made the silly mistake of playing on hard for my first play through im still going at it though and im not that far just beat the matador. trying to grind is pretty frustrating.
3:04-3:25 best part
BEAST EYE MAKAKAJA MAKAKAJA BEAST EYE MAKAKAJA MAKAKAJA MEGIDOLAON MEGIDOLAON
Wrong theme
Has the music that plays in the recover fountains been uploaded yet?
DEM BONES
Power (1): HAAAAAR! "Tarukaja"
Power (2): HAAAAAR! "Tarukaja"
Red Rider: NEUHAHAHA "Chaos Blade"
"My entire team including myself dies in one turn"
HD remaster is coming 😎👍
@razi3l03 Red Rider? You mean "Conquest" then. Conquest is the "leader" of the 4 horsemen.
Trumpeter was easy for me o_O... My strategy -
First Turn - MC, Taunt
Second Turn - Black Frost, Taunt
Third TurnDaisojou - Dekaja
Fourth Turn - Sui-Ki (had himm accidently in party) - Glacial Blast - 1k damage from 2 hits.
His turn - Mazandyne, Maziodyne - everyone alive
First turn - MC - Focus
Second Turn - Black Frost Prominence - 1 k
Third Turn - Daisoujou Prayer
Fourt Turn - Glacial Blast - 1k
He used some madyne again
First turn - Divine shot for 1500
etc
Repeated 3 or 4 times and he died.
Daisoujou is freaking hard! I gave up on this game because there was no possible way for me to beat him. I'm of course going to try and beat it after I finish DDS 1 and 2 though.
Plot summary:
"DEMONS"
"The world is pregnant"
"DEMONS, DEMONS"
"Megidolaon"
"HAVE YOU EVER SEEN THIS MANY DEMONS"
"Beast Eye, Megidolaon"
"FEATURING DANTE FROM THE DEVIL MAY CRY SERIES, DEMONS TOO"
"You saved the world, maybe fucked it up, fuck if I know, bai"
I just focused all my points into Strength, so every time he used meditation, I was pretty screwed. I really liked Daisoujou in Persona 3 though, he was very useful.
I thought I was gonna lose: out of demons, out of mana, one more of those stab barrages and I would've been a goner. Launched a normal attack to spite him.
K.O.
digital devil saga was easier for the grind, but right now im getting ready for face Satan.
No prob, mate!
Also, when ya get to the Motorcycle fiend, whatever his name is, he DOES have dispell magic... not cool.
Cast stone on the two powers and then focus all attacks on Red Rider.
ヘルズエンジェル、トラウマ
It does sound like a mix of Alice from Imagine and SMT II before fighting Lucifer. :) Well it is MOSTLY composed of that Lucifer part but the Alice part i'm not so sure xD.
Oh, Hell Biker, I see.
Are you ready?
@bahamuta lol nah. I found a preowned copy at a Gamestop for $26 a little over a week ago. I just finished the 3rd Kalpa in the Labyrinth of Amala (the furthest I'd ever gotten in the Labyrinth, PERIOD). I tore Dante apart at the end too :D My Party was my MC, Daisoujou, Matador, and Angel (trust me, she's alot better than your average Angel). Both Daisoujou and Matador could drain HP and MP from enemies, Angel had Dia, and I had tons of items stocked up for my MC to use when necessary.
but on another note besides my game not reading fast enough. I would say the hardest fight out of all the bosses was probly the Moire Sisters. Trumpeter for me was a little tough he wiped me out once and then I beat him the second time around after i learned his pattern of healing and instant KO. on my game i used Daisouju to heal and he was usually the one lowest on HP when the trumpeter healed and was always had full hp when the trumpeter instant ko'ed
Kagutsuchi was literally a JOKE boss.
I just focused and kajad a little and smacked the guy around for 2 or 3k every round and only needed to heal every so often, usually the round he -skipped- to talk to me about nothing and just let me beat his ass into the ground. And the crits got me like 5 or 6 turns a round so I just beat him down faster than he could cope with it.
Flauros + Harlot/Uriel + Matador/Thor = ass whipping
@gamester512 truthfully i found one on ebay for only 20 bucks and it was still factory sealed... i think i lucked out tho lol
"I challenge you to a duel."