Counterpoint Ep 36 - How To Diagnose An Inop Seat Heater Quick and Easy
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- Опубліковано 15 жов 2024
- In this episode we show you how to diagnose a faulty seat heater on a 2015 Kia Optima. We cover 3 different methods to verify the concern!
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You know I don't need an answer from you .. But let's stir the pot for a second . Why doesn't the seat back on the drivers side get twice as hot since all the current is no longer shared with the seat bottom element? Let's see who's thinking today ?
25 minutes...and no answers. Come on guys, who's brain is still up this evening?
Mike Becker, Technical Services Instructor
Diodes?
SKO NYC a diode is like a gateway right ? So if that gate was closed it would never allow any current . Keep thinking, I know you'll get it 💪
New Level Auto ok one more guess..lol a resistor?
Thanks Keith now I can't sleep lmao.. I think it's the heated seat control module. If it's not then I'm jumping off the roof. Lmaooo.
Great idea comparing current from left to right. I'm a Kia technician and by can tell you I have replaced a few bottom cushion heater elements.
Hey Nicholas, I was a Kia tech as well. We got pretty good at seat cover removal right? That OCS Mat recall on the old Spectra's right?
Mike Becker, Technical Services Instructor
Hey Mike. Too funny, I did a spectra OCS mat yesterday. Yeah, I got pretty good at trim work working for Kia. I just bought a flir camera a couple months ago and I was hoping to use it on some seat heaters but I haven't seen one since. However, it has been great for checking voltage drops and current draws. How recently were you working for kia?
Outstanding class Mike, thanks for bringing us such well produced videos.
Thank you for watching all of them Wyatt! :)
Mike Becker, Technical Services Instructor
Great job Mike, look forward to you answering Keith's question.
I appreciate these videos.
Joe, why don't you give it a shot. I want to see what you guys think! I'm not going to answer it :)
Mike Becker, Technical Services Instructor
Wells Vehicle Electronics Ha, OK Mike, cool. I'll give it a shot tomorrow 😂
Absolutely love what you and Wells are doing with these videos. Great info, well delivered and a lot of fun.
Joe Mikos 😁
Hey Joe, thanks!!!
Great info Mike. I missed an opportunity to do this on my old Odyssey van. Thanks for the three great tips!
Thanks John! Next time man!
Mike Becker, Technical Services Instructor
Good Job! And thank you! My 2019 Kia Soul has flashing lights on the drivers side seat heater. It doesn't get hot either. I am taking it in and you reassured me I am covered on the 5 year warranty.
Awesome! Tis' the season for needing a seat heater :)
Mike Becker Senior Instructor
Excellent job Mike!
Thank you Big Dog!
Mike Becker, Technical Services Instructor
Nice video Mike & they are pretty easy to change in a warm environment. If it's cold and the leather is tight I just turn on the seat warmer and it makes it easier to clip it in. Changing upholstery is so much easier now then when we had hog rings.
Hey Bob! Thanks! Many of the Kia seats are still put together with hog rings....I got good at them. There was a recall on the OCS mat on older Spectra's and Rio's I believe that we had to change out every single one.....If I remember right book time was 0.6 to do it :(
Mike Becker, Technical Services Instructor
Never did any Kia's but I can still do hog rings . They need to get with the times b/c the plastic retainers are pretty easy. I don't get to do a lot of seat warmers down here when I tell them the price of the seat warmer they go buy a seat cover for the short winter however I do get some around Christmas that want to surprise their wives. We need seat chillers here in HOTLANTA.
It's amazing how many of these I had to replace under warranty. I do like the plastic retainers too. Cooled or "ventilated" seats are nice here in the summer too. If I had to chose between heated seats, cooled seats, and a heated steering wheel I'd have to chose the steering wheel. I absolutely love mine...and hate the cold :)
Mike Becker, Technical Services Instructor
I have a 2006 Silverado SS with leather interior heated seats the works. Best part about heated seats is in the cold I start the truck and turn on the heated seats before I get in so the leather is able to stretch easier and lasts longer without cracking. Leather conditioner only goes so far. I have a leather steering wheel cover & it never transmits the cold but a heated wheel would be nice but the cover protects the steering wheel from wear (still can see the leather grain in the wheel. I hate the cold which is why I live in GA vs NY now but the big reason is I hate rust...something about owning an 11 year old vehicle & it still looks new with no rust and working on cars is great and hardly ever have to use the torch or penetrating fluid except when I work on auction cars from the North.
Bob, these are all reasons I would move somewhere warmer too! GA doesn't sound so bad right now. 1°F on my drive in this morning...BRRR!
Mike Becker, Technical Services Instructor
Great video Mike! 👍 One more example of how useful a thermal imaging camera can be!
Thanks Nick! I love using that thing. Saves time for sure!!!
Mike Becker, Technical Services Instructor
Great Job Mike and kinda surprised of such an early failure. 5 year 60,000 there bumper to bumper warranty or powertrain. I know most domestics it's powertrain only and it's 3 year 36 for bumper to bumper didnt know if Kia was different as most we see are way out of warranty. Keep up the great work
Hey Mike, yeh I was surprised too. It was my wife's car. Owned it since I completed the PDI on it when it had 4 miles :) anyway...shocking it went bad because we are both "nice" to the seats...oh well. Warrenty issue now. 5-60k bumper to bumper for original owner. 10/100k for orig. If sold, then the 2nd owner gets 5/60k for powertrain unless it's certified.
Mike Becker, Technical Services Instructor
Great info! Thx for sharing Mike.
Hey Maic! Thanks man!
Mike Becker, Technical Services Instructor
Hi Mike. Will most heated seat LED switches light up if voltage is present but in fact go out if no current is flowing through circuit?
John, that's a great question. I wouldn't say there is a way to describe "most" many will flash, or turn on for a second, then turn off if there is a fault. But don't think that the seats current is flowing through the switch. Most of the time it is just an input to the computer.
Mike Becker, Technical Services Instructor
Saludos y gracias por compartir sus experiencias y estudios
Nicely done Mike 👍
Thanks Rob!
Mike Becker, Technical Services Instructor
Thanks Mike, what flir camera do u use cheers sandy
Hey Sandy, I am using the Flir C3 camera. I love this thing because it offers a nice clean picture instead of blobs. It basically is a digital and thermal camera in one!
www.flir.com/instruments/c3/
Mike Becker, Technical Services Instructor
Wells Vehicle Electronics cheers Mike looks very nice, I'm thinking of the cheaper tg165, giving big hints to Santa! Cheers sandy
It is great. I also have a TG165. It works well also, but the C3 has become my go to!
Mike Becker, Technical Services Instructor
Wells Vehicle Electronics cheers Mike, happy Christmas, Sandy
Merry Christmas and Happy New Year Sandy!!!
Mike Becker, Technical Services Instructor
Thank you Mike. Good job.
Thanks Billy!
Mike Becker, Technical Services Instructor
That was awesome. Really enjoyed that.
Thanks Spanky!!! A nice toasty seat to go with that hot coco you wouldn't share with your kids the other night during Keith's live video?
Mike Becker, Technical Services Instructor
I guess. I thought my phone died by then. Oops! My parents had a 99 Chrysler Town & Country with heated seats. They were amazing. And proved to be a fun game in the summer with, "How long until Dad realizes the bun warmer is on? " hahaha
D6Spanky heartless I say . Poor fella
Haha I play that game with my wife all the time! I also use them to keep pizza warm on the 30 minute drive home.
Mike Becker, Technical Services Instructor
My dad now has the skills of a trained Jedi regarding that game. I would totally use my seat warmers for pizza warmers if I had them! Excellent use!
I like it. Nice job. Sweet and Simple
Hey Hey Richard, simple and sweet! Heated seats aren't all that interesting....unless they fail at 42k....it was a chance to play with thermal again though, which was nice :)
Mike Becker, Technical Services Instructor
Nice job Mike! Your new nickname is 'Hot buns'. haha Have a good weekend
Haha thanks Glen! Hope your weekend is going well!
Mike Becker, Technical Services Instructor
good info as always.
Thanks J Georges for watching and commenting, as always!! :)
Mike Becker, Technical Services Instructor
Great stuff
Thanks ME Salazar!
Mike Becker, Technical Services Instructor
What can do my heated seat is heating automatic and I can't turn it off
Hey Elvis, that sounds horrible in the summer! I'd have to take a look at a wiring diagram, but it sounds like something is either shorted to power or ground causing your issue.
Mike Becker, Senior Instructor
@@GoTechTraining it sure do thank you I had to drive in hour half away with 100 degrees outside and heated seats fun fun lol
NTC code not connected code
2015 Santa Fe limited
driver seat not heating
?????
Hey Eddie, throw an ohm meter on the heater element. If it's OL or open circuited, needs a new element.
Mike Becker, Senior Instructor
@@GoTechTraining it was open these seats are complicated
You seat in your car... you feel part of the seat doesn't warm up.... but hey, let's just confirm the problem with multimeter....Useless video.
That’s the point 😂
You use a multimeter to test each section to determine which section has failed
aka fix that sections issue fixes it.