Nick, please obtain a day light shot from that same camera and then overlay it with the flashlight footage so we can tell exactly where the flashlights were.
I do believe footage is from driveway security cam at 1001 Stafford Ct, pointing in the direction across street and in general direction of the back of Sebastians home. Look it up on Google and view street mode in front of 1001, and it shows a drainage creek area and "common ground" area that curves around back toward neighbors house and then Sebastians as well. Large light source in background is from 1006 Stafford Ct most likely. As for the moving light sources path, they follow the little drainage creek pretty spot on.
What about the car on the far left sitting in the driveway looking like it just pulled out of the Proudfoot's garage? Yes there are two people with flashlights but there's also a car. Where are the Proudfoots going at after 3am?
@herchelleonwood7463 statistically speaking, when a child goes missing its usually the non custodial parent. Nearly 80% of all abductions are by the non custodial parent. Are you saying bio dad took him?
@mr.tomatohead5648 NO WAY!! Not in this case... stepfather quite poss...But Sebastian's REAL Dad, a deputy sheriff, has been fighting for custody and Sebastian will be finally moving in with Dad, Seth at the end of the school year in about 3 months. Both have been wanting this! Stepfather has DV and custody cases open in other states, this is his 5th marriage at his young age! Stepfather Christopher has a history of violence against children... IS OWN!!! His ex filed for full custody and an emergency order of protection as soon as Sebastian went missing! Oddlyy, Sebastian is listed on the witness list to be called in that case 🤔 Mom and stepfather have not searched, only sat ho.e waiting for his return according to them. Real Dad took a leave of absence to search for his boy daily!!!!
@@valtoton2982doesn't mean bio dad still didn't take him. Possibly didn't want to wait the 3 months heard of sd past wanted him out of there now not in 3 months so he is hiding him pretending to search just another option everyone stuck on mom and sd which is prop the case but other options be nice to hear maybe bio dad new gf or wife does he have one how do they feel about a sebastian coming to live with them just throwing other ideas out
@@Thought_Criminal77 I think those are cell phones being turned on for a few seconds. It's not flashlights! Flashlights have a bigger beam, they would illuminate a bigger beam on the bottom floor. Those are cell phones 💯.
They are disclaiming this as a trash truck picking up trash at around 3:30 in the morning what trash company picks up trash at 3:30 in the morning using flashlights none that I know of
This makes a lot of sense to why investigators say foul play now. Mom talked about a flashlight and the door being locked. I’m sure she remembers her exact movements. They’re just trying to obtain enough evidence to find out the truth and file charges. That’s why it’s been quiet and no update. If they just gave us this video, I’m sure they have way more evidence. It’s only a matter of time before those two are in jail.
But it just showed at the end that one light moved back into the common area after leaving off the other side….so if someone else took him or lured him away then both lights would have stayed off screen….but since one went back in screen they went back toward the house…almost like someone took him and gave him to someone else off screen and then turned back and went back.
I'm not buying the no shoes idea this child had a incident where he stepped in a fire ant pile if you dk what that feels like you're lucky it's painful itchy and gives a lot of anxiety
@@maymaypooch There's not one video on either channel about it so Idk what you're mistaking it with. I live in Hendersonville so I'm following this very closely and have been hoping one of those channels would cover it.
Its all over Nancy Grace as of recently. She's interviewed all the parents..... and there are a lot of suspicious things. Plus, she reverence this and says it turns out these weren't flashlights, but doesn't elaborate (I wish she had!) @intothemystic5223
I still think the Step dad and his mother are involved but definitely one of them. They say he left his phone behind. Tell me what teenager would leave their phone behind? Kids usually leave clues when they meet up with someone where it’s their phone or on the computer. This story is not jiving.
@@DistrustHumanz yeah I don’t buy that. Because you can shut the phone off or take the SIM card out. So if he didn’t wanna be tracked those are ways to do so.
He apparently per the step dad barely used the phone because "its not an entertainment device" and he was only allowed the calculator app and texting and calling contacts that they had pre-programmed. (Family im assuming) Imagine only letting your 15 year old use the calculator app? I know phones are bad but he should be allowed to use more than the calculator app with supervision...step dad sounds like a fat little controlling POS.
Father waits outside with torch, tells son he's found something. Son comes out with his torch, they both walk to a secluded area, Father comes home alone, hence the ine flashlight
Well two flashlights go, only one comes back. They're thinking something was done to one of them that's why only one light comes back. ie: Sebastian was hurt/killed@@sonofhibbs4425
Here in Australia we just had a young lad who had Down Syndrome, was non-verbal and autistic go missing. You hear that combination and think there is no way they are going to find him alive, but they did. That was only only a couple of days though. I hope this story has a happy ending too, but sadly that seems to be unlikely after such a long time and it certainly seems to be a far more sinister scenario.
The light moving back the way it came is super suspect. How can the mom say for certain he was barefoot? Even if shoes aren't missing, how does she know he wasn't wearing socks?
When they say he was 'barefoot' that means all of his shoes were at home. If someone was outside in socks, that would still be considered 'barefoot.' Your foot is bare of what it should have: shoes.
An online article says that one of the LE scent dogs tracked the child's scent to a nearby construction area , and then apparently, the dog lost the scent. The video appears to show a set of vehicle lights in the left side. It would be interesting to know if those apparent headlights were also near the same construction area where the child's scent disappeared.
It's fishy either the boy was planning on leaving cause the mother said sebastin was playing with a flashlight before he went to bed..... or she said that because of the videos she knew would surface later on.....
And to everyone wondering why she just didn't release custody of him back to the dad? Simple. She and stepdad didn't want to have to suddenly start paying upwards of a thousand plus dollars a month for child support/medical aid funds to the bio dad.
Let's think logically here... 1- There's no way Sebastian ran out of the house AT 3 AM! In the middle of the night when he had school in the morning and thought about "ohh let me grab a flashlight and go barefoot outside and run away" there would be more chance of him doing that at like 11pm cause he doesn't want to go to bed but then a kid his age wouldn't want his feet dirty and they would get creeped out hard as fck in the dark especially in his neighborhood where there is ZERO light, that would even creep out an adult!! 2- How does the mom know or noticed he even brought a flashlight? Unless he kept one on his nightstand every night, most adults don't even know where their flashlights are... who would notice that when their kid is missing? 3- Let's say he got abducted inside his house... how? The mom would have heard something, him screaming or talking. There's no online internet "friends" who would abduct him from inside his house at 3 am on a school day, never. 4- He is not seen anywhere, not found anywhere, unless there is a river near and he drowned... he is buried somewhere or inside someone's house. 5- Seb was going to move with his real dad at the end of the school year ~3 months from now so why would the step dad want to get rid of him when that's probably what he been dreaming of... however the mom probably feels upset about it. 6- It's really hard not to point fingers at the parents or 1 of them... I feel like it's possible that 1 is unaware the other did something to them
if he was going to move with his dad at the end of the school year, why would the mom and step dad, even if they wanted to be rid of him, do anything to him when the end of school is just a few months away. Doesn't make sense.
@@blitzmom2674 Sebastion was going to be a witness in court about an upcoming child abuse charge of the stepfathers, concerning his own daughter. That is according to Chris' ex-wife & mother of the girl.
One time my husband and I were taking a walk looking for a cat and we noticed a helicopter very low with a light but we weren’t home so we didn’t know a 15 year old autistic boy who was non verbal was missing. We ended up finding him shivering butt naked in a pool at a neighbors so my husband had me get towels and stuff for him, it was very cold out I have no idea how he jumped in there. But it shows u he coulda froze in there had we not been out walking and it was crazy cause it was all over the tv and fb once we got home after getting him out of this pool and grabbing the cops and all. But you can’t jump straight to parents, rule them out first absolutely but keep looking incase it’s like my neighbors son who just liked to swim but couldn’t talk much.
@@pickledellies But one "subject" heads back to his house and the other leaves. Someone from inside the house handed him off to the other and turned and ran back.
I’m still trying to put my brain together on how this is a garbage truck? I know cameras and lights play tricks on us and we don’t have the full video but If it’s fr not related to the case I hope TBI shows the full video at the press conference to help us know exactly what’s going on here so we can completely let go of these light sources and stop speculation.
Another theory. Step dad comes home that night. Parks down the street due to neighbors cameras. Mom and dad carry him through the dried patch to step dad’s truck, hence the two flashlights. Step dad heads back to work and drops the kids body somewhere along the way. Likely, he’s no where near their hometown.
what an odd neighborhood where it's pitch black at night? wouldn't the residents complain and demand street lights? or wouldn't there be some kind of city requirements? it's not like it's a country dirt road..it looks like a real neighborhood.
So he maybe was bagged up ,taken outside to stepdad waiting and then she went back in and waited til morning. He would have had no shoes on and they would have taken the flashlight and no scent of him would be outside because he wouldnt have touched the ground if he was wrapped in something.
So what are the lights in the top right hand corner it looks like a car looks like you can see black wheels and it looks like there’s something on the top of the car maybe a police car or taxi.possibly the person and light source came from the car if it’s a car please look.
So help me, God, if this ends up being another Summer Wells case, I will lose my mind!!!! Kids just don't disappear from their home in the middle of the night. Keep your eyes on these parents.... mom and step dad. Their behavior is sus.
Was that before the stepdad went to work or after? One of them could be Sebastian and one The stepdad, Maybe the boy was running away from the stepdad.
I looked at this video a couple times. I thought I saw a person turn on a light and come out from the back of the house that had the security camera and walk up towards someone from the road? Maybe they were going up to meet somebody that dropped something off for them, they could have checked their mail, they could have left to go to work, etc. I don't see anybody come from Sebastion's home.
@@mikeylikesit6622 That's good but I feel like it's just now getting out there. He's been missing for almost 3 weeks. And not everyone is on UA-cam. I just wish it had been national news immediately like the poor guy in Nashville was.
Good, I'm so glad to hear that!! Everyone I've asked outside of Tennessee hasn't heard but maybe they just weren't paying attention. I'm really relieved it's made news outside of here.
Okay. Based on this video and contradicting things the mom said, and stepdad"s early morning commute, I believe the mom killed him, went back to the house and that the kid is dead somewhere not far at all from the house. Remember Quinton Simons mom? The lies and show she put on t.v. while everyone was searching for her son?
Is there a way to see if stepfather truck has any type of manufacture tracker /GPS to verify his actions that night? Cameras at his so called work site ? There has to be a way to track the stepfather even if he is not talking..
Could some person approach Sebastian outside...both with flashlights.....until....the guy grabbed him and took him. Leaving the one light leaving to the common area ?
We cant just assume the person moving quickly isnt two people moving quickly with one light. The picture didnt show us exactly where the cam is in relation to his house so we dont know if moving toward the common area even means moving toward Sebastians home or away from. I caution people who are blaming the parents without sufficient evidence.
Mum says he was gone when she went to get him up ,,yet she said he was laughing and joking that morning 🤷♀️ how is that possible if he was not there when she went to his room? It also makes what she says about him just walking out something to think about,,, imo she isn’t telling the whole truth,,,
@@ctl6233 I’ve listened to it a few times and it doesn’t make sense ,,, besides that I still don’t think he walked out of the house ,, those lights are very strange especially one leaving and one going back in to the house …
I personally don’t believe that we are seeing two people, one person carrying bulky object. Trash buckets are rolled to the curb , follow the object shift to the right. What we see it’s heading to left toward the corner / garage. Individual exit from the garage door.
They can stil track it. Bloodhounds can track a scent from someone taken in a car. They can track it for miles. Being carried wouldn't make any difference.
LE claims this is a trash truck. I don't believe that for 1 minute. I think they don't want his mom and stepfather thinking they suspect its them. Theres just no way that is lights from a truck of any kind. JMO
Oh Lord. Well who's home has the footage and what is the proximity to His house? I don't know what to think now with this update. His mom said he isn't on social media, soooo how would he meet a stranger? Or did he have contact with a KNOWN person and went out to meet him/her? Prayers for his safe return. Please follow THE VAULT XL FOR UPDATES TO THIS STORY...THANKS!
He was only 3 hrs away. He could've at the very least help cover up. Didn't they say previously that they talked on the phone until midnight? This video was taken at 3:10. Stepdad could've left his phone at his hotel and drove back home to help cover up.
You guys said you checked all video the last 3 weeks so that's crazy how did this just show up and secondly that could very well be the stepdad with the boy going with him and coming back alone
Same thing with the guy missing from the bar. It has taken them 6 days to think to start checking the river when they knew he was in a vulnerable state after being put out of the bar.
Who runs off and doesn't put on their shoes? It's cold out. None of this makes any sense unless maybe he was being groomed at school? (his parents said he didn't have access to internet where he could have met a predator). But why not take your shoes? It looks from the clip he went willingly. I just hope he's found safe.
Back of his home in a "common" area??? All I see are property lines laid out with rows of trees. This makes me sick in the pit of my stomach... If he had wondered off, he would have been seen/found by now. Parents are not just killing their babies in the womb, now they are killing them in the home... May God have mercy on us all
This tells me at 3:10 a.m. there's a vehicle to the far left with lights on. Subject 2 is coming from that vehicle, going toward subject 1. Subject 1 has something that Subject 2 wants. Gets that and hauls as$ with that something back to the vehicle with the lights on. Subject 1 heads back to house. COME ON L.E. ENOUGH IS ENOUGH. ARREST PEOPLE ALREADY!!!!!!
Let’s say Sebastian went outside with his flashlight and stepdad went out to find him they got into a scuffle and stepdad accidentally kills him, and that is stepdad going back towards the house to figure out what to do
He probably took off after a fight and mom went after him, did something to him and ran back to start the cover up…hope they check that area and call records for 2-5am
Oh we hearing flash light of this child well something isn’t. Right. Now shows 2 flashlight some one. Knows something. I pray that they find out soon. An how did the so called parents what the child was Wearing An having only a flashlight 😢
what kid would be sneaking out at 3 in the morning? Seems more likely the lady of the house had a boyfriend that had to sneak out before the boy woke up in the morning.
Glad you explained this, the chinese site that has this up says nothing but does give all views of Google Street view. This is interesting. Hope yhey weren't vehicle or garage surfing and the kid went out to see what it was.
All the parents and grandparents , gps vehicle devices need checked. A vehicle was hidden somewhere or ATV .Something not right about “the pack” that the stepdad speaks about , or the lie he stated Sebastian had told on him . He admits he hit him with a belt, took his pet snake away, takes candy away, doesn’t allow any interment at the age of 15 , made fun of his dancing moves . He sounds like a real loving stepfather , just the kind you want raising your child . Another Tim and Tracy Ferriter case . The phone call between the Mom and Stepdad 3 hours after Sebastian goes to bed 🚩. Stepdad could have left his phone on where his job site is while connected to Mom , left and taken Sebastian out of the home then back to work . Nighttime hospital workers oh yeah
Some kids keep a flashlight in their bedroom because they're afraid of the dark, if he's one of those who has his flashlight always with him at night, she'd notice if it were gone.
Best be asking all the neighborhood kids what they were doing at 3am. If that was them, they met up in the back yard. 3am a popular time for kids. The fact that he had no shoes tells me he wasn't going far and just to meet up with another kid. There is a kid in that neighborhood that's a little disruptive and a little "off". I hope they find a conclusion for this family soon. 😞
The flashlight went back toward the house and you don't see it anymore. Does that mean the person went back to the house and didn't come out again? Wouldn't that mean they live there? It would be good to know the direction the person with the first flashlight went.
Researching garbage is picked up does not start before 6am or continue after 8pm or dark. However, I also heard that the time-stamp stuck at 3:02. Perhaps it is during there pick-up time.
Nick, please obtain a day light shot from that same camera and then overlay it with the flashlight footage so we can tell exactly where the flashlights were.
Yeah that'd be nice. He won't though.Most people don't think about things like that.
I do believe footage is from driveway security cam at 1001 Stafford Ct, pointing in the direction across street and in general direction of the back of Sebastians home. Look it up on Google and view street mode in front of 1001, and it shows a drainage creek area and "common ground" area that curves around back toward neighbors house and then Sebastians as well. Large light source in background is from 1006 Stafford Ct most likely. As for the moving light sources path, they follow the little drainage creek pretty spot on.
What about the car on the far left sitting in the driveway looking like it just pulled out of the Proudfoot's garage? Yes there are two people with flashlights but there's also a car. Where are the Proudfoots going at after 3am?
3 am assuming the time on the camera was correct
Some people are trying to do that.
I'm kinda jaded about these type of things....I tend to think less "mysterious abducter/abducters" but more..... close to home.
statistically its almost always someone close to home..
@herchelleonwood7463 statistically speaking, when a child goes missing its usually the non custodial parent. Nearly 80% of all abductions are by the non custodial parent. Are you saying bio dad took him?
Or school
@mr.tomatohead5648 NO WAY!!
Not in this case... stepfather quite poss...But Sebastian's REAL Dad, a deputy sheriff, has been fighting for custody and Sebastian will be finally moving in with Dad, Seth at the end of the school year in about 3 months. Both have been wanting this! Stepfather has DV and custody cases open in other states, this is his 5th marriage at his young age! Stepfather Christopher has a history of violence against children... IS OWN!!! His ex filed for full custody and an emergency order of protection as soon as Sebastian went missing! Oddlyy, Sebastian is listed on the witness list to be called in that case 🤔
Mom and stepfather have not searched, only sat ho.e waiting for his return according to them. Real Dad took a leave of absence to search for his boy daily!!!!
@@valtoton2982doesn't mean bio dad still didn't take him. Possibly didn't want to wait the 3 months heard of sd past wanted him out of there now not in 3 months so he is hiding him pretending to search just another option everyone stuck on mom and sd which is prop the case but other options be nice to hear maybe bio dad new gf or wife does he have one how do they feel about a sebastian coming to live with them just throwing other ideas out
I highly doubt that complete strangers lured Sebastian out of the house or abducted him from the house.
@@Thought_Criminal77 Exactly 💯‼️☝️
@@Thought_Criminal77 one is the mom and one is stepdad...guess who the only one home in the morning was?
@@Ardnaxela1002 who ?? why you keeping secrets ??
@@Thought_Criminal77 I think those are cell phones being turned on for a few seconds.
It's not flashlights!
Flashlights have a bigger beam, they would illuminate a bigger beam on the bottom floor.
Those are cell phones 💯.
Could be his friends
How do you know its not the parents out there with flashlights .?
That’s what I thought too they try make it like he got kidnap or ran off
@pattyannponderings didn’t they say the mom only realized when she went to wake him up?
@@MysticRose24yeah but she could be lying like most people who commit a crime
She claimed a flashlight was missing ..i found that weird
I did a psychic reading on this case. This video is a missing piece of the puzzle. It fits well with what I psychically received.
They are disclaiming this as a trash truck picking up trash at around 3:30 in the morning what trash company picks up trash at 3:30 in the morning using flashlights none that I know of
on a sunday!
This makes a lot of sense to why investigators say foul play now. Mom talked about a flashlight and the door being locked. I’m sure she remembers her exact movements. They’re just trying to obtain enough evidence to find out the truth and file charges. That’s why it’s been quiet and no update. If they just gave us this video, I’m sure they have way more evidence. It’s only a matter of time before those two are in jail.
The mom also keeps saying he walked out the front door… now how does she know that unless she seen him do it? I find that strange 🤔
I find it strange her saying stuff about flashlights 😮
agreed, And why would she let him wander outside at night?
@@pirategirl58 She didn’t let him necessarily. Somehow he either did get out by himself or was taken out by someone else.
@@lisarasmussen5760 ..oh. I see. Somehow I thought she said she saw him go out of the door. I'm glad that wasn't the case. Thanks.
It's a figure of speech....
This would be hell for a parent to go thru.
Somebody knows something. He must of recognized them or they enticed him. Sad 😔
@traybern Maybe the Detectives need to question your dumb ass!
@traybern yes Mam
@traybernStfu grammar police 🙄 Go elsewhere with your hateful ass!!
@@hi-techredneck7069ignore the grammar police 😊
@traybernyour manners are worse!
Oh man. The parents know...
see if the neighbor has video feed for 3 or 4 days before and up until the day he was missing
They do, Sebastian was seen returning home with him mom at 9:00 pm that night. After being seen out at a restaurant and Costco before that.
Stick on it. You’re closing in on them. And they are scared!
But it just showed at the end that one light moved back into the common area after leaving off the other side….so if someone else took him or lured him away then both lights would have stayed off screen….but since one went back in screen they went back toward the house…almost like someone took him and gave him to someone else off screen and then turned back and went back.
It's beyond sad...and I don't think he'd took off with no shoes! He's not where they think! 🙏4 you Sebastian!
Obviously, or he wouldn’t be missing
Where do they think he is?
Why not
I'm not buying the no shoes idea this child had a incident where he stepped in a fire ant pile if you dk what that feels like you're lucky it's painful itchy and gives a lot of anxiety
This case needs Court TV and Law & Crime Network attention
It’s all over that channel
@@maymaypooch There's not one video on either channel about it so Idk what you're mistaking it with. I live in Hendersonville so I'm following this very closely and have been hoping one of those channels would cover it.
Its all over Nancy Grace as of recently. She's interviewed all the parents..... and there are a lot of suspicious things. Plus, she reverence this and says it turns out these weren't flashlights, but doesn't elaborate (I wish she had!) @intothemystic5223
I've seen videos about it from Court TV.
@@sonjasmith740 This post was made before it was
I still think the Step dad and his mother are involved but definitely one of them. They say he left his phone behind. Tell me what teenager would leave their phone behind? Kids usually leave clues when they meet up with someone where it’s their phone or on the computer. This story is not jiving.
Yea.. about like Madeline Soto leaving her phone behind. It was bc she was already dead.
Or the kid left his phone on purpose because he knew his parents used a phone tracking service...
@@DistrustHumanz yeah I don’t buy that. Because you can shut the phone off or take the SIM card out. So if he didn’t wanna be tracked those are ways to do so.
A kid who doesn't want to be found would leave their phone behind, Sherlock.
He apparently per the step dad barely used the phone because "its not an entertainment device" and he was only allowed the calculator app and texting and calling contacts that they had pre-programmed. (Family im assuming) Imagine only letting your 15 year old use the calculator app? I know phones are bad but he should be allowed to use more than the calculator app with supervision...step dad sounds like a fat little controlling POS.
Something really stinks about this case. It might be that I'm a cynic, but it doesn't add up.
Agreed
@@lisalamb3926 he left the house and some car picked him up case closed
I saw part of this video last night but the video that I saw they were not showing the one light coming back by itself. That's really bad.
Can you please explain? I’m lost following what everyone seems to comprehend.
Father waits outside with torch, tells son he's found something. Son comes out with his torch, they both walk to a secluded area, Father comes home alone, hence the ine flashlight
Well two flashlights go, only one comes back. They're thinking something was done to one of them that's why only one light comes back. ie: Sebastian was hurt/killed@@sonofhibbs4425
@@Mr-Mr66that's not his dad it's his stepdad imo
@@Mr-Mr66torch???? wtf
Here in Australia we just had a young lad who had Down Syndrome, was non-verbal and autistic go missing. You hear that combination and think there is no way they are going to find him alive, but they did. That was only only a couple of days though.
I hope this story has a happy ending too, but sadly that seems to be unlikely after such a long time and it certainly seems to be a far more sinister scenario.
That is great news ! And these parents definitely could use some news like that. Thank you for sharing.
The light moving back the way it came is super suspect. How can the mom say for certain he was barefoot? Even if shoes aren't missing, how does she know he wasn't wearing socks?
Because she delivered him deceased to someone outside then retreated back to the house.
When they say he was 'barefoot' that means all of his shoes were at home. If someone was outside in socks, that would still be considered 'barefoot.' Your foot is bare of what it should have: shoes.
An online article says that one of the LE scent dogs tracked the child's scent to a nearby construction area , and then apparently, the dog lost the scent. The video appears to show a set of vehicle lights in the left side. It would be interesting to know if those apparent headlights were also near the same construction area where the child's scent disappeared.
What a useless security camera. Even my Ring cam from 5+ years ago has night vision.
They probably sat it up so it couldn’t record good that’s the mom and step dad in the video
For real and the neighborhood doesnt have any street lights?
That is frightening
It's fishy either the boy was planning on leaving cause the mother said sebastin was playing with a flashlight before he went to bed..... or she said that because of the videos she knew would surface later on.....
This is 2024. It took them 18 days to find this video? Strange. IMHO the step dad did something to Sebastian.
It’s a joke
And to everyone wondering why she just didn't release custody of him back to the dad? Simple. She and stepdad didn't want to have to suddenly start paying upwards of a thousand plus dollars a month for child support/medical aid funds to the bio dad.
Let's think logically here...
1- There's no way Sebastian ran out of the house AT 3 AM! In the middle of the night when he had school in the morning and thought about "ohh let me grab a flashlight and go barefoot outside and run away" there would be more chance of him doing that at like 11pm cause he doesn't want to go to bed but then a kid his age wouldn't want his feet dirty and they would get creeped out hard as fck in the dark especially in his neighborhood where there is ZERO light, that would even creep out an adult!!
2- How does the mom know or noticed he even brought a flashlight? Unless he kept one on his nightstand every night, most adults don't even know where their flashlights are... who would notice that when their kid is missing?
3- Let's say he got abducted inside his house... how? The mom would have heard something, him screaming or talking. There's no online internet "friends" who would abduct him from inside his house at 3 am on a school day, never.
4- He is not seen anywhere, not found anywhere, unless there is a river near and he drowned... he is buried somewhere or inside someone's house.
5- Seb was going to move with his real dad at the end of the school year ~3 months from now so why would the step dad want to get rid of him when that's probably what he been dreaming of... however the mom probably feels upset about it.
6- It's really hard not to point fingers at the parents or 1 of them... I feel like it's possible that 1 is unaware the other did something to them
if he was going to move with his dad at the end of the school year, why would the mom and step dad, even if they wanted to be rid of him, do anything to him when the end of school is just a few months away. Doesn't make sense.
@@blitzmom2674bc they were worried he would tell him real dad of some type of abuse going on? Idk
3. they had dogs as well.. no abduction!
@@blitzmom2674 Sebastion was going to be a witness in court about an upcoming child abuse charge of the stepfathers, concerning his own daughter. That is according to Chris' ex-wife & mother of the girl.
why does it look like car headlights in the back ground
One time my husband and I were taking a walk looking for a cat and we noticed a helicopter very low with a light but we weren’t home so we didn’t know a 15 year old autistic boy who was non verbal was missing. We ended up finding him shivering butt naked in a pool at a neighbors so my husband had me get towels and stuff for him, it was very cold out I have no idea how he jumped in there. But it shows u he coulda froze in there had we not been out walking and it was crazy cause it was all over the tv and fb once we got home after getting him out of this pool and grabbing the cops and all. But you can’t jump straight to parents, rule them out first absolutely but keep looking incase it’s like my neighbors son who just liked to swim but couldn’t talk much.
$20 it’s his Mom or Dad taking him somewhere😒
Or he could have teamed up with a friend from school and got into difficulties.
yeah unfortunately that was my thought
Step-dad you mean.
@@pickledellies But one "subject" heads back to his house and the other leaves. Someone from inside the house handed him off to the other and turned and ran back.
@@boycee1I caught that part too... Now I'm convinced that it's the mother involved 💯
I’m still trying to put my brain together on how this is a garbage truck? I know cameras and lights play tricks on us and we don’t have the full video but If it’s fr not related to the case I hope TBI shows the full video at the press conference to help us know exactly what’s going on here so we can completely let go of these light sources and stop speculation.
Oh gosh- this doesn’t seem good
Another theory. Step dad comes home that night. Parks down the street due to neighbors cameras. Mom and dad carry him through the dried patch to step dad’s truck, hence the two flashlights. Step dad heads back to work and drops the kids body somewhere along the way. Likely, he’s no where near their hometown.
God I hope he is found 😞 this is just an absolute nightmare 💔
IMO, he knew who was out there with flashlights. Incredibly sad.
Or he thinks he knows them. These kids get to talking to a person online and they think they are my friend. It’s a sad but very real occurrence.
💚SebastianRogers💚
@DonnellOkafor-pd7ynAnd how do you even know that 🙄
what an odd neighborhood where it's pitch black at night? wouldn't the residents complain and demand street lights? or wouldn't there be some kind of city requirements? it's not like it's a country dirt road..it looks like a real neighborhood.
There are "real neighborhoods" on dirt roads too.
Many people appreciate living in the country. Street lights obscure the stars. 🤷♀️
Weird that they have this video and she said the flashlight is missing
Someone needs to take a closer look at mom just saying I have my personal reasons I feel this way,based off of Sebastian's story..
She didn’t do anything by herself
Stepdad was out of town. Whatever happened, happened on moms watch. I feel Mom called stepdad in a panic and he came back and helped cover evidence.
I agree.
So he maybe was bagged up ,taken outside to stepdad waiting and then she went back in and waited til morning. He would have had no shoes on and they would have taken the flashlight and no scent of him would be outside because he wouldnt have touched the ground if he was wrapped in something.
I have never in my life heard of a trash pickup at 3 am. Let's be real, guys.
So what are the lights in the top right hand corner it looks like a car looks like you can see black wheels and it looks like there’s something on the top of the car maybe a police car or taxi.possibly the person and light source came from the car if it’s a car please look.
Good reporting Nick
worst reporting ive ever seen
So help me, God, if this ends up being another Summer Wells case, I will lose my mind!!!! Kids just don't disappear from their home in the middle of the night. Keep your eyes on these parents.... mom and step dad. Their behavior is sus.
it happens every day in america and there is no evidence that the parents were involved
I wonder if any of the homes crawl spaces have been searched.
🤷♀️
Law enforcement searched and asked people to continue to search crawlspaces, sheds, barns, etc, from the onset and over the next several day's.
all of them were
I was thinking that with another case.
Family is involved
who says?
I hope they find him safe
Was that before the stepdad went to work or after? One of them could be Sebastian and one The stepdad, Maybe the boy was running away from the stepdad.
I looked at this video a couple times. I thought I saw a person turn on a light and come out from the back of the house that had the security camera and walk up towards someone from the road? Maybe they were going up to meet somebody that dropped something off for them, they could have checked their mail, they could have left to go to work, etc. I don't see anybody come from Sebastion's home.
I live in Hendersonville and I'm very frustrated this story isnt bigger. *If* he was kidnapped, it needs to be national news!!
Well I’m watching in California . People all over the world can see the videos -
@@mikeylikesit6622 That's good but I feel like it's just now getting out there. He's been missing for almost 3 weeks. And not everyone is on UA-cam. I just wish it had been national news immediately like the poor guy in Nashville was.
I'm know about it and I'm in England! It's all over the news, even The Behavior Panel did an episode on the parents.
I’m in Seattle and I’m following this story. This has made nationwide coverage.
Good, I'm so glad to hear that!! Everyone I've asked outside of Tennessee hasn't heard but maybe they just weren't paying attention. I'm really relieved it's made news outside of here.
Okay. Based on this video and contradicting things the mom said, and stepdad"s early morning commute, I believe the mom killed him, went back to the house and that the kid is dead somewhere not far at all from the house. Remember Quinton Simons mom? The lies and show she put on t.v. while everyone was searching for her son?
Sad to say, but I don't trust the mom and step dad.
Maybe these were cell phone lights…and instead of the light disappearing, it was the cell phone shutting off for a moment!
Is there a way to see if stepfather truck has any type of manufacture tracker /GPS to verify his actions that night? Cameras at his so called work site ? There has to be a way to track the stepfather even if he is not talking..
Whens the last time someone besides his mom or stepdad can verify that he was alive?
According to bio dad, school Friday.
Could some person approach Sebastian outside...both with flashlights.....until....the guy grabbed him and took him. Leaving the one light leaving to the common area ?
Can you see if this is a reoccurring event every sunday. It would be good to know if it is or isnt
We cant just assume the person moving quickly isnt two people moving quickly with one light. The picture didnt show us exactly where the cam is in relation to his house so we dont know if moving toward the common area even means moving toward Sebastians home or away from. I caution people who are blaming the parents without sufficient evidence.
No garbage pick up 3 am i called all departments. In the area . Im from Australia the pickup is 7 am to 5 pm 🎉😢😢
Mum says he was gone when she went to get him up ,,yet she said he was laughing and joking that morning 🤷♀️ how is that possible if he was not there when she went to his room? It also makes what she says about him just walking out something to think about,,, imo she isn’t telling the whole truth,,,
YES she did! I had to go back a few times to make sure that is what she said. I am sure a detective heard that.
Yes
I kept going back and forth as well some weeks ago. I think what she meant was the morning of the day before this all happened.
@@ctl6233 I’ve listened to it a few times and it doesn’t make sense ,,, besides that I still don’t think he walked out of the house ,, those lights are very strange especially one leaving and one going back in to the house …
I personally don’t believe that we are seeing two people, one person carrying bulky object. Trash buckets are rolled to the curb , follow the object shift to the right. What we see it’s heading to left toward the corner / garage. Individual exit from the garage door.
Poor baby 😢 hope they find him safe
I think the parents carry him out on their shoulders so the tracking dogs won't be able to track the teen scent
Yea then mom turns and runs back inside.
Nah, that guy is so morbidly obese, he couldn't walk 50 yards without stopping for a breather.
They can stil track it. Bloodhounds can track a scent from someone taken in a car. They can track it for miles. Being carried wouldn't make any difference.
@@kt1pl2 Yep. Also, if there were footprints left behind, they can determine who was heavier than they are now.
@@JoeR203I didn't understand your sentence and I would like to. Can you word it differently for me please.
Moving forward they need to get street lights on this block
LE claims this is a trash truck. I don't believe that for 1 minute. I think they don't want his mom and stepfather thinking they suspect its them. Theres just no way that is lights from a truck of any kind. JMO
Thank you
Wow!!! Its a good thing to find . It matches with the day he disappeared.
Oh Lord. Well who's home has the footage and what is the proximity to His house? I don't know what to think now with this update. His mom said he isn't on social media, soooo how would he meet a stranger? Or did he have contact with a KNOWN person and went out to meet him/her? Prayers for his safe return. Please follow THE VAULT XL FOR UPDATES TO THIS STORY...THANKS!
The parents did it
Shut up..people like you that make life miserable for Everyone
Step dad was out of town.
He was only 3 hrs away. He could've at the very least help cover up. Didn't they say previously that they talked on the phone until midnight? This video was taken at 3:10. Stepdad could've left his phone at his hotel and drove back home to help cover up.
@@boycee1 thata my theory
You guys said you checked all video the last 3 weeks so that's crazy how did this just show up and secondly that could very well be the stepdad with the boy going with him and coming back alone
INTERESTING!😳
Right? It seriously took them almost 3 weeks to find this flashlight video that could be something or not?
@@Allthewaylive1991 why is it popping up now?
@@jennasumner9989 No idea. It's super suspicious.
Same thing with the guy missing from the bar. It has taken them 6 days to think to start checking the river when they knew he was in a vulnerable state after being put out of the bar.
How convenient that the mom and stepdad said that a flashlight was missing. And then this. I don't believe their "story"
Wouldn't this corroborate the story they told? Leave your emotions out of it.
@@savagedabs8536 not emotional at all. 1🙄
Who runs off and doesn't put on their shoes? It's cold out. None of this makes any sense unless maybe he was being groomed at school? (his parents said he didn't have access to internet where he could have met a predator). But why not take your shoes? It looks from the clip he went willingly. I just hope he's found safe.
Who was running back towards the house then?
Yep but there not seeing the shadows of the other huge lights. Crazy you missed that.
Back of his home in a "common" area??? All I see are property lines laid out with rows of trees.
This makes me sick in the pit of my stomach... If he had wondered off, he would have been seen/found by now.
Parents are not just killing their babies in the womb, now they are killing them in the home...
May God have mercy on us all
Such hysteria.
@@KohalaLover
That says a lot about the darkness of your heart...
@@christiroseify Pray for me.
Right the trash people theory isn't working if this is the backyard because sebastian rogers took the trash at the end of the driveway before bedtime
Good grief, this is just the same as summer wells🤔
This tells me at 3:10 a.m. there's a vehicle to the far left with lights on. Subject 2 is coming from that vehicle, going toward subject 1. Subject 1 has something that Subject 2 wants. Gets that and hauls as$ with that something back to the vehicle with the lights on. Subject 1 heads back to house. COME ON L.E. ENOUGH IS ENOUGH. ARREST PEOPLE ALREADY!!!!!!
One of them seem to be returning to area where vehicle was parked.
Let’s say Sebastian went outside with his flashlight and stepdad went out to find him they got into a scuffle and stepdad accidentally kills him, and that is stepdad going back towards the house to figure out what to do
the step dad was reportedly hours away living in his camper at a construction site.
Looked like a brawny man chasing a smaller figure. Look in those woods by his home. Look again! He ran away from.
Omg it’s like looking at blurry UFO video. 🖖👽
He probably took off after a fight and mom went after him, did something to him and ran back to start the cover up…hope they check that area and call records for 2-5am
All those big houses and not a single camera?
And that was “a neighbor’s surveillance video”..?
Who’s the “neighbor” Google earth?
The mom and step dad could have done this to distract from what really happened.
Oh we hearing flash light of this child well something isn’t. Right. Now shows 2 flashlight some one. Knows something. I pray that they find out soon. An how did the so called parents what the child was Wearing An having only a flashlight 😢
@DonnellOkafor-pd7yndon’t say that
Why did they wait until now to release this 🤔
It took them time to get access and review all the hours of footage of these separate videos, I’m sure.
Look at The Parents and review cellphone data and local towers.
If you look close they look like they are struggling are they dragging or carrying something
Initially it looks like meet-up & then things may have changed when a person wasn't who he expected.
what kid would be sneaking out at 3 in the morning? Seems more likely the lady of the house had a boyfriend that had to sneak out before the boy woke up in the morning.
Glad you explained this, the chinese site that has this up says nothing but does give all views of Google Street view. This is interesting. Hope yhey weren't vehicle or garage surfing and the kid went out to see what it was.
All the parents and grandparents , gps vehicle devices need checked. A vehicle was hidden somewhere or ATV .Something not right about “the pack” that the stepdad speaks about , or the lie he stated Sebastian had told on him . He admits he hit him with a belt, took his pet snake away, takes candy away, doesn’t allow any interment at the age of 15 , made fun of his dancing moves . He sounds like a real loving stepfather , just the kind you want raising your child . Another Tim and Tracy Ferriter case . The phone call between the Mom and Stepdad 3 hours after Sebastian goes to bed 🚩. Stepdad could have left his phone on where his job site is while connected to Mom , left and taken Sebastian out of the home then back to work . Nighttime hospital workers oh yeah
Geo tracking warrant would help find out what happened.
Now how does the mom know he took a flashlight with him? She knows what happened to him.
Perhaps it is missing?
Some kids keep a flashlight in their bedroom because they're afraid of the dark, if he's one of those who has his flashlight always with him at night, she'd notice if it were gone.
Best be asking all the neighborhood kids what they were doing at 3am. If that was them, they met up in the back yard. 3am a popular time for kids. The fact that he had no shoes tells me he wasn't going far and just to meet up with another kid. There is a kid in that neighborhood that's a little disruptive and a little "off". I hope they find a conclusion for this family soon. 😞
Looks like someone lighting a cigarette
UPDATES needed
Does he have friends at school that might of tried to sneak him out to go somewhere?
Really, go back to bed. He was autistic genius.
The flashlight went back toward the house and you don't see it anymore. Does that mean the person went back to the house and didn't come out again? Wouldn't that mean they live there? It would be good to know the direction the person with the first flashlight went.
That mama knows! She went back to the house! Red flags!!!
Researching garbage is picked up does not start before 6am or continue after 8pm or dark. However, I also heard that the time-stamp stuck at 3:02. Perhaps it is during there pick-up time.