Any defensive-minded coach that comes in needs to have a clear indicator of who their OC will be and what the plan for Caleb is, Carroll is no different. At Seattle he was doing it all so seeing him just coach again would work well for him. Carroll is a known and proven winner and one of only a very few available coaches you could bring in and know your culture will change, it will be immediate, and is strong enough to withstand any meddling from above. Anyone who immediately points to Pete's age or compares him to John Fox is guilty of lazy thinking and knows nothing about him.
Age must be considered. He isn't coming into the league with the Seahawks as a 60 year old coach. He'll be 73. Does he have another 10 years in the tank? Doubt it. Nothing against Pete, but we need the Pete when he took over the Seahawks. Not the Pete that's 1 year removed from being fired by the Seahawks.
the packers were smart enough to hire a bill walsh, west coach guy 40 years ago named mike holmgren because they realized that walsh had changed the nfl and have never looked back. meanwhile, the bears went from ditka to wanstadd to juron because they think “defense wins championships” and half their fans still think you can win with justin fields and want to hire mike vrabel. lol the packers would hire a high quality offensive coach, whether that johnson or coen or kubiak. they wouldn’t hire vrabel or an 80 year old carrol. they wouldn’t even discuss these things cuz they are so obviously stupid.
Caleb did perform in clutch time in the first games against the Commanders, Lions, Vikings, and Packers, but the last few games just haven’t even been close enough to matter at all.. seems like the floor has fallen out of the Defense, too.
The most Bears things to do is hire someone we didn’t even know was tryna get a job. This team in particular sucks huuuuuuuuge ****. Goddamn they blow.
If you fired the GM, you might as well tear down the roster and tank again next season. GMs are not players. You don't hire and fire these guys every 3 years.
@@sevinbamuels6560So you would rather keep Poles a guy with obvious blind spots for coaching (Flus, Waldron, First year DC/RB) and building trenches (Had 3 years and they're awful)?? Culure there sucks and ignores blatant red flags and/or staff advice on Free Agents (Claypool, Davis, Bates). If Poles stays and misses on coach, trenches next year protecting Caleb, stopping the run/pass rush he's fired. Align GM with HC the way he didn't break our insane cycle of lame duck HC with Rookie QB. That fireable enough without his other issues. There are some players that will be cut/traded with a new GM. So what??? A few are making business decisions and/or getting paid too much for their lack of effort anyway. Any quality GM would trim the fat anyway. We have a much better foundation now so it won't be a fire sale like previous years.
@@johns.9214 You forgot to add drafting Caleb and messing up a successful rebuild. That was his biggest mistake. Still, you don't fire managers every 3 years. And if you did, you might as well redo the entire thing Get a new GM, reset the QB position, trade away contracts like sweat, and Moore. Or, the front off to get this thing back on track is more appealing to me. Because as soon as the next GM comes in and not a top 5 team in the league for 3 years, you all will be crying to be starting again. And weren't Bears fans calling him King Poles 9 weeks ago? Remember: "'In Poles we Trust" last off season. Bears fans are wishy washy as hell.
@@sevinbamuels6560 Eberflus was interviewed before Poles was GM. And then hired 48 hours later. Do you in your heart of hearts believe he actually wanted him? Or was he pressured into it? I think that was a board meeting decision, along with Waldron. I'd bet that hire was a contingency for Poles to be hired. They wanted people who were cheap and inexperienced and someone to put the blame on. The evidence of that is what it looked like before Poles became GM. Same exact decisions, going in a circle. IMO that hire was a board meeting thing, related to money/marketing. From their perspective, when things go bad and then things go good, that's great for business. Because the excitement reignites when they win and it keeps fans coming to the game/hopeful. That's why many bears fans stick around through all the bullshit, and they know that. They didn't want to talk to Harbaugh because the team's president doesn't like him. There were rumors that Poles wanted eberflus gone with the Caleb pick, but they didn't let him. It wouldn't surprise me if the #9 pick was a board meeting plan too. Anybody with football sense knows we needed a center/LT. Poles is an offensive line guy, but he went for a WR????? How does that work? I never bought that. That's how dumb fans think who only watch the exciting positions. It confirmed it when he said they internally polled who they should take lol. They went for the hype pick. I like Rome but it wasn't the best thing for the team. It was a money move. After the draft of caleb/rome, they started talking about a stadium and went on hard knocks. These are all moves to build hype. But not necessarily to win. If we did better this season, Eberflus would've still gotten fired but probably have a chance at being picked up by another team. That's what this org is, a team for entry level coaches to begin their careers. Look at every single coach we have currently, and try to find success in their careers. It's been like that for the last 3 hires. So why do we keep going for them? They are cheap.
Im tired of all this and I dont know how you guys can do your jobs with and enthusiasm. We all know how to fix this crap, but we always get a gm that does some good things but then does some bad things. The bad things are the ones that we cannot overcome unfortunately, like ignoring an offensive line by putting has been players or back ups in starting rolls. Sad.
There are no qualty coaches available. Too young or too old.Thats the options. Last years opportunity to get Harbagh was given away to keep Uberloss. Those same minds are making the decisions again....what makes anyone think quality decisions will be made. Nothing changes until the entire management staff is fired from top to bottom.
This is why I’d pass on Carroll. Look at that top rated defensive and offensive teams. Offense drives success in modern football. CW’s development is the #1 priority. More than defense and “culture.” Johnson is the top pick, and if you have to shake some more money out of Virginia to get him you do it
Interview him and learn what you can but no he is too old at 73. We need someone who can develop Caleb and will be here for 10 years or more like in other top organizations. They really should be pursuing Ben Johnson with all their ability.
NO!!!! Lack of attention to details is what wore out his welcome in Seattle. The McIdiots will like this because he's desperate (= cheap and controllable)
So he says meaningful minutes and it’s out of Caleb‘s control so does that not include the Washington game when he brought us back? Does that not include the Green Bay game? Does that not include the Detroit game the Minnesota game they don’t count only the last few games that they’ve got blown out
I think Poles knows exactly who he is bringing in here his job depends on it and I think he already knows that. Johnson should be the next HC but I hope that Johnson contacts Robert Salem if that’s how you spell his name. I hope for this young teams chances them two will be our next coaches. Robert knows how to run a defense and Johnson definitely knows how to draw up a top notch offense. Make it happen Poles talk to Johnson and make sure you talk to him about Robert Salem he would have these guys playing with their hair on fire and that’s what the defense needs. The offense needs that rah rah OC also take no prisoners..
As a 50 year long Bears fan (Since I was 7) I am weary and wary about unknown quantities Wannestat Jauron Trestman Nagy Eberflus I know Fox was a bust but I’m leaning “experience” this time Anyone else?
Is Biggs high? Talk to anyone over the age of 40 about Caleb, log on to any social media platform and click on any post about Caleb, the haters are everywhere
Pete Carrol took a "mediocre team" to 2 Superbowl games and had reached the playoff season 10 times. Has a winning chemistry in both College Football and professional football. What more do you expect from him?
Pete Carroll is a better schematic fit for this defense than either Vrabel or Flores, and his free-spirited style is better for misfits like Tyrique Stevenson and obviously for Caleb's off the field personality.
@ Sorry, but I have to correct you. The Seahawks under Carroll always ran a 4-3. Now, personnel wise, they were more hybrid (three big run-stuffers up front and a traditional edge rusher) and used 2 gap concepts, but Carroll's defense has always been heavily influenced by Monte Kiffin's Tampa 2 defense.
The one mistake Pete made forever hunts his legacy…if he can come into the Bears organization and win with them , that mistake in Seattle will be all forgotten
BJ is clearly the most intelligent HC material, exactly what the Bears need in this evolution of pro football where the smartest leadership only will succeed!
How do the Green Bay Packers, from Ownership, to Executives, to GM, to Coaches be so consistent over the years? From Favre, to Rodgers, to Love - they just keep winning - they are the 'Kansas City' of the NFC.
Should Da Bears look for a new GM? It is an easy decision, just listen to Pole’s promises when he accepted the job and compare the results. Remember, the best predictor of future behavior is past behavior. 😱‼️
Bears could have had Harbaugh but they stuck with a cheap proven incompetent option. Plus they didn’t upgrade the O Line like they should have. Caleb has been put through the wringer. Ben Johnson has no experience as a head coach. Does he have that alpha presence to command the locker room? Not so sure. And Vrabel won’t come cheap either. Frankly this ownership really set up their QB and team for failure this season. I don’t think there’s some magic antidote to solve this mess they’ve created.
When is the next interview of McCaskey? Can somebody prepare some real questions the fans want answers to? Not the softball talking points he’s comfortable with? Let Potash loose on George.
The Bears are good at picking running backs, tight ends and defensive linemen. They are not good at picking quarterbacks, wide receivers, coaches and offensive linemen. This has been a problem for many years and we are still working at getting better.
John Fox part deux??? This is not happening. They need a guy who can be here for the next ten years a Reid, Harbaugh. If it’s Ben Johnson then fine but that’s not Pete Carroll
Pete Carrol took a "mediocre team" to 2 Superbowl games and had reached the playoff season 10 times. By the time you find the right head coach, Caleb's career is already half over.
No thanks to Pete Carroll. He was probably going to get fired had he not retired. He signed off on the failed OC in Waldron. The whole “leader of men” thing is so overrated. You develop a good culture through winning. Period. You could be John Wooden but if you’re not winning games you won’t have a winning culture. Do the obvious thing. Fire Poles. Hire Ben Johnson and hire Agnew.
"Pete Carroll" is a superior HC. 2x AP College National Champion! A Superbowl Champion! 181-131 record with 15 out of 19 winning season! He's exactly who Chicago needs! Warren and Poles should be begging him to come be HC with a blank check!
Why on earth is Carroll a hard no? Is his CV not impressive enough vs an untested OC? Talk about a coach that would change the culture for the better in a heartbeat and get the most out of his players. Good lord take the win. Ben Johnson’s riding on a lot of hype but Carroll has proven himself more than enough and can bring in the right assistants.
Any defensive-minded coach that comes in needs to have a clear indicator of who their OC will be and what the plan for Caleb is, Carroll is no different. At Seattle he was doing it all so seeing him just coach again would work well for him. Carroll is a known and proven winner and one of only a very few available coaches you could bring in and know your culture will change, it will be immediate, and is strong enough to withstand any meddling from above. Anyone who immediately points to Pete's age or compares him to John Fox is guilty of lazy thinking and knows nothing about him.
Age must be considered. He isn't coming into the league with the Seahawks as a 60 year old coach. He'll be 73. Does he have another 10 years in the tank? Doubt it.
Nothing against Pete, but we need the Pete when he took over the Seahawks. Not the Pete that's 1 year removed from being fired by the Seahawks.
"What'd you get for Christmas?"
"Well, there's lots of things in contention. Back to the grind again, right boys?"
This reminds me of when we brought John fox in
😂 Casual
We just fired an OC from Seattle and a defensive HC. Carroll is both. No thanks.
the packers were smart enough to hire a bill walsh, west coach guy 40 years ago named mike holmgren because they realized that walsh had changed the nfl and have never looked back. meanwhile, the bears went from ditka to wanstadd to juron because they think “defense wins championships” and half their fans still think you can win with justin fields and want to hire mike vrabel. lol
the packers would hire a high quality offensive coach, whether that johnson or coen or kubiak. they wouldn’t hire vrabel or an 80 year old carrol. they wouldn’t even discuss these things cuz they are so obviously stupid.
Caleb did perform in clutch time in the first games against the Commanders, Lions, Vikings, and Packers, but the last few games just haven’t even been close enough to matter at all.. seems like the floor has fallen out of the Defense, too.
The most Bears things to do is hire someone we didn’t even know was tryna get a job. This team in particular sucks huuuuuuuuge ****. Goddamn they blow.
Need a clean reset at HC and GM. Pete for DC.
If you fired the GM, you might as well tear down the roster and tank again next season. GMs are not players. You don't hire and fire these guys every 3 years.
@@sevinbamuels6560So you would rather keep Poles a guy with obvious blind spots for coaching (Flus, Waldron, First year DC/RB) and building trenches (Had 3 years and they're awful)?? Culure there sucks and ignores blatant red flags and/or staff advice on Free Agents (Claypool, Davis, Bates). If Poles stays and misses on coach, trenches next year protecting Caleb, stopping the run/pass rush he's fired. Align GM with HC the way he didn't break our insane cycle of lame duck HC with Rookie QB. That fireable enough without his other issues. There are some players that will be cut/traded with a new GM. So what??? A few are making business decisions and/or getting paid too much for their lack of effort anyway. Any quality GM would trim the fat anyway. We have a much better foundation now so it won't be a fire sale like previous years.
@@johns.9214 You forgot to add drafting Caleb and messing up a successful rebuild. That was his biggest mistake.
Still, you don't fire managers every 3 years. And if you did, you might as well redo the entire thing
Get a new GM, reset the QB position, trade away contracts like sweat, and Moore. Or, the front off to get this thing back on track is more appealing to me.
Because as soon as the next GM comes in and not a top 5 team in the league for 3 years, you all will be crying to be starting again. And weren't Bears fans calling him King Poles 9 weeks ago? Remember: "'In Poles we Trust" last off season. Bears fans are wishy washy as hell.
@@sevinbamuels6560 Eberflus was interviewed before Poles was GM. And then hired 48 hours later. Do you in your heart of hearts believe he actually wanted him? Or was he pressured into it? I think that was a board meeting decision, along with Waldron. I'd bet that hire was a contingency for Poles to be hired. They wanted people who were cheap and inexperienced and someone to put the blame on. The evidence of that is what it looked like before Poles became GM. Same exact decisions, going in a circle.
IMO that hire was a board meeting thing, related to money/marketing. From their perspective, when things go bad and then things go good, that's great for business. Because the excitement reignites when they win and it keeps fans coming to the game/hopeful. That's why many bears fans stick around through all the bullshit, and they know that. They didn't want to talk to Harbaugh because the team's president doesn't like him. There were rumors that Poles wanted eberflus gone with the Caleb pick, but they didn't let him.
It wouldn't surprise me if the #9 pick was a board meeting plan too. Anybody with football sense knows we needed a center/LT. Poles is an offensive line guy, but he went for a WR????? How does that work? I never bought that. That's how dumb fans think who only watch the exciting positions. It confirmed it when he said they internally polled who they should take lol. They went for the hype pick. I like Rome but it wasn't the best thing for the team. It was a money move. After the draft of caleb/rome, they started talking about a stadium and went on hard knocks. These are all moves to build hype. But not necessarily to win. If we did better this season, Eberflus would've still gotten fired but probably have a chance at being picked up by another team. That's what this org is, a team for entry level coaches to begin their careers. Look at every single coach we have currently, and try to find success in their careers. It's been like that for the last 3 hires. So why do we keep going for them? They are cheap.
"Uhhhh yeah well I think they need to hire a good head coach." Hard hitting analysis.
Im tired of all this and I dont know how you guys can do your jobs with and enthusiasm. We all know how to fix this crap, but we always get a gm that does some good things but then does some bad things. The bad things are the ones that we cannot overcome unfortunately, like ignoring an offensive line by putting has been players or back ups in starting rolls. Sad.
Ben Johnson please.
There are no qualty coaches available. Too young or too old.Thats the options. Last years opportunity to get Harbagh was given away to keep Uberloss. Those same minds are making the decisions again....what makes anyone think quality decisions will be made. Nothing changes until the entire management staff is fired from top to bottom.
Harbaugh will be back coaching in college within 3 years without even a Super Bowl appearance
This guy employed Shane Waldron for 3 years. Hardest of hard passes.
You casuals are hilarious
Havent heard Zach's voice in awhile, it is heavenly. Thank you
This is why I’d pass on Carroll. Look at that top rated defensive and offensive teams. Offense drives success in modern football. CW’s development is the #1 priority. More than defense and “culture.” Johnson is the top pick, and if you have to shake some more money out of Virginia to get him you do it
So you develop a franchise quarterback in an undisciplined culture?
The team has to be the priority not one person sir
@@TaureanAmmons
Yes
The goobers have spoken
how about the fact that he hired shane waldron as his offensive coordinator. lol.
Nonsense. Defense still wins championships. Notice the only SB Mahomes lost was when he was held to 9 points by TB.
If Johnson has a GM in mind that he can work with hire him and dump Poles. Offer Robert Saleh DC/ asst HC and get on with making the roster right.
Wow I had no idea Zach was a ginger, all these years and I never knew what he looked like lol
Haven’t seen him before either but terry boers used to call him the “ginger haired-genius”by-cracky !
@ haha yeah now that you say that I think Pat Hughes has referenced it before too
hes a gingerhead man
Interview him and learn what you can but no he is too old at 73. We need someone who can develop Caleb and will be here for 10 years or more like in other top organizations. They really should be pursuing Ben Johnson with all their ability.
We want to interview you but we won’t hire you. Lol.
NO!!!! Lack of attention to details is what wore out his welcome in Seattle. The McIdiots will like this because he's desperate (= cheap and controllable)
So he says meaningful minutes and it’s out of Caleb‘s control so does that not include the Washington game when he brought us back? Does that not include the Green Bay game? Does that not include the Detroit game the Minnesota game they don’t count only the last few games that they’ve got blown out
I think Poles knows exactly who he is bringing in here his job depends on it and I think he already knows that. Johnson should be the next HC but I hope that Johnson contacts Robert Salem if that’s how you spell his name. I hope for this young teams chances them two will be our next coaches. Robert knows how to run a defense and Johnson definitely knows how to draw up a top notch offense. Make it happen Poles talk to Johnson and make sure you talk to him about Robert Salem he would have these guys playing with their hair on fire and that’s what the defense needs. The offense needs that rah rah OC also take no prisoners..
I haven't been this excited since when John Fox's name was bandied about before his hire.
As a 50 year long Bears fan
(Since I was 7)
I am weary and wary about unknown quantities
Wannestat
Jauron Trestman
Nagy
Eberflus
I know Fox was a bust but I’m leaning “experience” this time
Anyone else?
Is Biggs high? Talk to anyone over the age of 40 about Caleb, log on to any social media platform and click on any post about Caleb, the haters are everywhere
Biggs is talking about REAL NFL EXPERTS. He isn't talking about the typical clowns on social media .
Ummm the first Vikings game? The redskins game. Sometimes your takes are a bit dumb Brad Biggs
Pete Caroll hire screams John Fox part2
Ok Bot
Good gravy…do not hire Pete!
Pete Carrol took a "mediocre team" to 2 Superbowl games and had reached the playoff season 10 times. Has a winning chemistry in both College Football and professional football. What more do you expect from him?
@invincibleEAST1 the legion of boom and Marshawn were mediocre? Lolol. Ok.
Pete Carroll is a better schematic fit for this defense than either Vrabel or Flores, and his free-spirited style is better for misfits like Tyrique Stevenson and obviously for Caleb's off the field personality.
Not really. Carroll always runs a 3-4 . Sweat is your highest paid defender but he can't play in a 3-4 defense. Dexter can and should though.
@ Sorry, but I have to correct you. The Seahawks under Carroll always ran a 4-3. Now, personnel wise, they were more hybrid (three big run-stuffers up front and a traditional edge rusher) and used 2 gap concepts, but Carroll's defense has always been heavily influenced by Monte Kiffin's Tampa 2 defense.
Carroll means the draft board doesn't change. He would probably get something out of Jalen Johnson.
@@spaceghost8995 Both Superbowl teams were 43 base.
@@Ebonysails They still played 2-gap style though. Not that I care what defense Bears run.
No! We need to see the QB put drives together when the game is in contention! In the first half. Not the 4th Q
Stickers on hats ain't it Gabriel
Mike Vrabel is the only choice in terms of a guy with head coaching experience.
Rodgers’ numbers are only marginally better . More TDs but also more INts. Better comparison is CJ stroud
Hard Pass on PC…
The one mistake Pete made forever hunts his legacy…if he can come into the Bears organization and win with them , that mistake in Seattle will be all forgotten
Are the Bears interviewing possible coaches at the nursing home, come on man, WTH
Exactly.
I hope they get Johnny Hotcoordinator.
Doesn’t matter if the season was saved
Not the point
Eberflus didn’t need to be rewarded for face planting
Our run game has not been reliable. Need a new back aside from the OLine
Y’all talking about coaching when the GM created this
Shore up the OL and DL. Ya, we know that. Why doesn’t the GM?
BJ is clearly the most intelligent HC material, exactly what the Bears need in this evolution of pro football where the smartest leadership only will succeed!
Who asked for Pete Carroll? At least Ben Johnson can run an offense.
How do the Green Bay Packers, from Ownership, to Executives, to GM, to Coaches be so consistent over the years? From Favre, to Rodgers, to Love - they just keep winning - they are the 'Kansas City' of the NFC.
They don't have McCaskey's failure touching it, 4 auto wins from the Bears, and until recently the Lions.
The Kansas City of the NFC? 😂😂 KC actually wins playoff games.
@@Sigismund7yea packers haven’t done that in like 11 months.
@@tdv17 Which NFC Championship did they win since 2010? Oh that's right ....
@@Sigismund7 you said playoff game dude. Go back to pretending Caleb isn’t a bust.
God no 😲 this is football malpractice by the Bears 🙄 bordering on malfeasance 😦
Yeah it would be silly to hire a coach who's going into the HOF wouldn't it? 😂😂
Should Da Bears look for a new GM? It is an easy decision, just listen to Pole’s promises when he accepted the job and compare the results. Remember, the best predictor of future behavior is past behavior. 😱‼️
Bears could have had Harbaugh but they stuck with a cheap proven incompetent option. Plus they didn’t upgrade the O Line like they should have. Caleb has been put through the wringer. Ben Johnson has no experience as a head coach. Does he have that alpha presence to command the locker room? Not so sure. And Vrabel won’t come cheap either. Frankly this ownership really set up their QB and team for failure this season. I don’t think there’s some magic antidote to solve this mess they’ve created.
Good to see Zach. And he’s wearing Bears colors despite the turmoil! What a guy.
Agree calergio
Yit yit just got to uh ya know 4 5 6 ... Uhhhh uhhhh dajit can can he he uhh uhh foot on peddle but uhh uhh can can I mean ya know.... Brad Biggs.
ZZ sounds older
When is the next interview of McCaskey? Can somebody prepare some real questions the fans want answers to? Not the softball talking points he’s comfortable with? Let Potash loose on George.
The Bears are good at picking running backs, tight ends and defensive linemen. They are not good at picking quarterbacks, wide receivers, coaches and offensive linemen. This has been a problem for many years and we are still working at getting better.
Fire Warren now
Bears
Matt Nagy😮how come Colin Kaepernick can't get back into the league😊
John Fox part deux??? This is not happening. They need a guy who can be here for the next ten years a Reid, Harbaugh. If it’s Ben Johnson then fine but that’s not Pete Carroll
God you Harbaugh bootlickers are something else.
I can't think of a coach more different from John Fox.
Carroll as GM instead! Any day over Poles.
1049 yards in 17 games. Not impressive.
So Pete Carroll wants to completely destroy whatever legacy he has left?
Pete's not a coward like you.
That’s not how winners think. He wants the glory of turning a franchise around. Another multi million contract is also nice.
And if he shows up and gets the job done
Imagine that legacy.
It will replace Wilson pissing away a Super Bowl as what he’s remembered for
Pete Carrol took a "mediocre team" to 2 Superbowl games and had reached the playoff season 10 times. By the time you find the right head coach, Caleb's career is already half over.
Jon Gruden. Jon Gruden. Jon Gruden. Jon Gruden. Jon Gruden. Jon Gruden. Say his name six times and he will appear.
These guys are just making stuff up.
No thanks to Pete Carroll. He was probably going to get fired had he not retired. He signed off on the failed OC in Waldron. The whole “leader of men” thing is so overrated. You develop a good culture through winning. Period. You could be John Wooden but if you’re not winning games you won’t have a winning culture. Do the obvious thing. Fire Poles. Hire Ben Johnson and hire Agnew.
Pete Carroll??
HELL NO!!!!
Don’t pass on Carroll.
Pass
This will never happen
"Pete Carroll" is a superior HC. 2x AP College National Champion! A Superbowl Champion! 181-131 record with 15 out of 19 winning season!
He's exactly who Chicago needs! Warren and Poles should be begging him to come be HC with a blank check!
He's who the bears needed 20 years ago. Sorry grandpa. Move along.
Why on earth is Carroll a hard no? Is his CV not impressive enough vs an untested OC? Talk about a coach that would change the culture for the better in a heartbeat and get the most out of his players.
Good lord take the win. Ben Johnson’s riding on a lot of hype but Carroll has proven himself more than enough and can bring in the right assistants.
Caleb sucks we would be better with any other quarterback
My instincts tell me Pete Carrol is one of the right guys . Take him
Pete would be a great choice!
He knows how to win and players love to play hard for him.
They don't need a new coach. They need a new QB.
What a terrible take.
We have a QB. Stop being a simpleton hater. 🤣🤣
@spaceghost8995 Simple, the definition of a bears fan. You're probably not even from Chicago
@@JohnBarron-n Oh I am. Been watching Bears since Bobby Douglass was the QB.
Let's quit with this, we don't need Carroll...just like we don't need Belichek.
And do we really want to win...honestly???🤔🤔