Wow, finally finished watching. Jeff, tonight's panelists and your question style were out of this world. At some point I stopped watching your show for some reason, but tonight, owing to the competence, maturity and level of intellect from your 3 awesome panelists, I decided to stay and watch the program to the end. Non-partisan, objective and candid conversation guys. I applaud and affirm all of you. Jeff, its time you change tact from the usual Atwoli and Boss and be bringing these kind of leaders to the show-non-tribalists and all from same community but spitting wisdom across board. Ngaru is such a great woman with exceptional leadership skills I may say while Kagwanja speaks with independent mind irrespective of his wife's status. Prof. Munene, any day, anywhere, he reasons and articulates issues from high intellectual and moral compass. Guys, you have demystified the tribal myth 100%.👏 My take home: 1. Ambition by young Agikuyus like Ndindi is ok but done with order and decorum. 2. RigG is a technocrat not a politician but he if he agrees to go slow and learn the ropes, he is redeemable. 3. The problems RigG is experiencing are self-made. "Kingpins" merit not self-proclaim. He is far from being one but he can start by redeeming his image first. Apologise to kenyatta family then humble himself to losten more that bullying to oblivion. 4. A leader already in a position of power should be respected despite his retholic and domineering nature like RigG. 5. The one man, one shilling is ok to an extent that first, it be canvassed across the board and incorporated with other outfits given the unique nature of our country. It shouldn't be seen from a tribal lense. 6. Limuru 3 was acceptable under free association platform in preparation to a more orderly and an all-inclusive one in future to chat the mountain agenda, as their democratic right. Lastly, just as there was Gema them days and the truth that the mountain is synonymous with our economy, agriculture, export and sizeable population, their view on forming a party to help them bargain and or protect their resources is a noble thing just like other communities do. I wish you the GEMA people well in your clamour for unity of purpose👍
who eve said that discrimination policy of ruto will get him nowhere mount kenya billionares who he is after walijipanga kitambo he cant touch them, discrimination of this kind is a good reason to divide the country like south sudan and he can go to be president of sugoi we dont have to have contact with each other
@@everlynondego8113 we are not in competition with you or contradicting you in fact the luos are the ones who blocked gema from having their own coutry the wazungu were going to give us our own country so if you have problems with been in the same country blame your people they were very powerful in the 50s in legco and opposed it
which lessons when all kenyans are suffering epz wote walifutwa if thers no epz theres no buying of t hose things somali sells ati nguo, handbag socks you will go down fast
Before Ruto chose Gachagua as his running mate who knew him? At the time the DP had zero clout in Mt. Kenya politics. He should realise the position given to him was a favor and the real kingpin of Mt.Kenya is Dr. Ruto himself .
Instead of waiting a crisis, let these central guys, whether a CS or MPs go get us the one man one vote whatever...That will make them the Kingpin. Let me wait (maybe until 2080)
we actually need our own country actually like south sudan if we have to be discriminated every time we dont have our own in power we need to really consider that because even the governors in nairobi have shown us what they would do if they were in powerful positions its always discrimination its exhausting to keep fighting to be free we should get our own country simple no way out even in the counties like coast gema people dont get anything at all they only pay taxes but any busary, jobs nothing even equity foundation funds they refuse kabisa thats a good indicator that wazee should call us back home and form our own country our presidents have not discriminated other communities so we dont need them same way they feel we are not needed
@ evelyln your people are the ones who put you in the same country with the mountain we were to get our own country in the 50s so ask your people why not us
@@janendegwa5462 the attitude of ‘your people,’ ‘your people’ ‘your people’ blah blah blah is what has destroyed this country. If only we could look at it in a different perspective! Aisuru, wacha tukule mbaya sisi site until we change the attitude of ‘your people and WE, ‘ lol.
Gema was desperate for life, we had more hope after we got uhuru to be the president but things did not turn on well His deputy saw our desperation and he came in to our rescue by masquerading to be part of our struggle (hustle) we bought his urguement and voted him in now 6 month later he changed again we are in square 1 but our God is coming soon.
Former president believed his deputy too much he created the problem then came to help us our,,,it's called artificial crisis..then you came to offer solutions..
Hon Mumbi am with you ,,"'poison'" unlike what Munene says central Kenya hated former president ,they were poisoned cheated out of egocentrism and naivety...let's eat our disrespect and ignorance
You guys are cutting off the most important parts Seriously guys, if you are to cut off some parts at least don't make me know that you did. Feels like I missed everything I was looking for
Yaani Ndindi Nyoro amepeleka a whole deputy president mbio hivi! President William Ruto should as a matter of urgency call Ndindi and order him down. Ruto must protect his deputy. He promised that!! At the same time Riggy G. should sit down. Calm down. And act as The Deputy President Of Kenya. Kenyans are capable of discerning and knowing who's at fault. For now i faulty Ndindi Nyoro.
😅😅😅😅, I think you live in Kenya in day time and sleep out of Kenya at night🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣.....whose said jubilee belongs to Mt. Kenya Jubilee was just a bus to take president to state house for 2nd term,because Jubilee was fabricated by two Party's TNA+URP= jubilee
This interview is so mutilated to the point of not understanding what the full interview is all about. I wonder why it's so . Please whoever is in charge of production of it should learn to edit videos better
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Unwatchable, Very poor editing !!
some parts are removed, mbona?
You are 100% right in that.... Why do that or do they want to present a distorted narrative
@@nationalistonenation9667sometimes guests request some of the statements they said to be removed
With JKL l believe the editing should be good if not better. It's not nice.
These edits are incoherent... Why has the producer of the show allowed this to be shared online?
so annoying one cannot follow through
Not edits. Issue with coverage because even watching live the streamlining is hanging
It’s annoying
Typical lack of integrity in everything kenyan
Very Genius Mother i love how you articulate issues ❤❤❤❤❤
Wow, finally finished watching. Jeff, tonight's panelists and your question style were out of this world. At some point I stopped watching your show for some reason, but tonight, owing to the competence, maturity and level of intellect from your 3 awesome panelists, I decided to stay and watch the program to the end. Non-partisan, objective and candid conversation guys. I applaud and affirm all of you. Jeff, its time you change tact from the usual Atwoli and Boss and be bringing these kind of leaders to the show-non-tribalists and all from same community but spitting wisdom across board. Ngaru is such a great woman with exceptional leadership skills I may say while Kagwanja speaks with independent mind irrespective of his wife's status. Prof. Munene, any day, anywhere, he reasons and articulates issues from high intellectual and moral compass. Guys, you have demystified the tribal myth 100%.👏
My take home:
1. Ambition by young Agikuyus like Ndindi is ok but done with order and decorum.
2. RigG is a technocrat not a politician but he if he agrees to go slow and learn the ropes, he is redeemable.
3. The problems RigG is experiencing are self-made. "Kingpins" merit not self-proclaim. He is far from being one but he can start by redeeming his image first. Apologise to kenyatta family then humble himself to losten more that bullying to oblivion.
4. A leader already in a position of power should be respected despite his retholic and domineering nature like RigG.
5. The one man, one shilling is ok to an extent that first, it be canvassed across the board and incorporated with other outfits given the unique nature of our country. It shouldn't be seen from a tribal lense.
6. Limuru 3 was acceptable under free association platform in preparation to a more orderly and an all-inclusive one in future to chat the mountain agenda, as their democratic right.
Lastly, just as there was Gema them days and the truth that the mountain is synonymous with our economy, agriculture, export and sizeable population, their view on forming a party to help them bargain and or protect their resources is a noble thing just like other communities do.
I wish you the GEMA people well in your clamour for unity of purpose👍
I applaud you for the analysis
Riggy G is irredeemable...😹 He's a beneficiary of Prebendalism ...
Lo standars KENYA rated 149..
I totally agree with you 100 %
Your analysis is top notch senior
A whole citizen tv can do such a messed up editing in 2024?
This Kikuyus think they own Kenya but William Ruto is teaching them new lessons 😂
who eve said that discrimination policy of ruto will get him nowhere mount kenya billionares who he is after walijipanga kitambo he cant touch them, discrimination of this kind is a good reason to divide the country like south sudan and he can go to be president of sugoi we dont have to have contact with each other
True, it’s all about MtKenya and scheming. This time round Kenya’s are awake.
@@janendegwa5462t hihihihiiii, too late. Sadly this comes from a ndegwa.
@@everlynondego8113 we are not in competition with you or contradicting you in fact the luos are the ones who blocked gema from having their own coutry the wazungu were going to give us our own country so if you have problems with been in the same country blame your people they were very powerful in the 50s in legco and opposed it
which lessons when all kenyans are suffering epz wote walifutwa if thers no epz theres no buying of t hose things somali sells ati nguo, handbag socks you will go down fast
That lady nailed it the mountain elected people whose qualification was only how vehemently u insulted Raila
Why cut the person talking mid way? It had many times in this video
Before Ruto chose Gachagua as his running mate who knew him? At the time the DP had zero clout in Mt. Kenya politics. He should realise the position given to him was a favor and the real kingpin of Mt.Kenya is Dr. Ruto himself .
What's with the editing
They mute words that may be deemed inflationary 💀
Instead of waiting a crisis, let these central guys, whether a CS or MPs go get us the one man one vote whatever...That will make them the Kingpin. Let me wait (maybe until 2080)
we actually need our own country actually like south sudan if we have to be discriminated every time we dont have our own in power we need to really consider that because even the governors in nairobi have shown us what they would do if they were in powerful positions its always discrimination its exhausting to keep fighting to be free we should get our own country simple no way out even in the counties like coast gema people dont get anything at all they only pay taxes but any busary, jobs nothing even equity foundation funds they refuse kabisa thats a good indicator that wazee should call us back home and form our own country our presidents have not discriminated other communities so we dont need them same way they feel we are not needed
Too late, won’t happen. You all voted BBI out.
@@janendegwa5462how tables turn 😂😂😂
@ evelyln your people are the ones who put you in the same country with the mountain we were to get our own country in the 50s so ask your people why not us
@@janendegwa5462 the attitude of ‘your people,’ ‘your people’ ‘your people’ blah blah blah is what has destroyed this country. If only we could look at it in a different perspective!
Aisuru, wacha tukule mbaya sisi site until we change the attitude of ‘your people and WE, ‘ lol.
EDITING WAS VERY TARGETING NOT TO GIVE CREDIT TO THE OPPOSITION IN ANY STATEMENT VERY DISAPPOINTING INDEED
Very tribal bench. Jeff won’t allow it.
who edited this and why? not possible to watch and follow
The way Jeff and Citizen Tv edited the whole views of this guys wueh
To remove any credit to opposition.
Gema was desperate for life, we had more hope after we got uhuru to be the president but things did not turn on well
His deputy saw our desperation and he came in to our rescue by masquerading to be part of our struggle (hustle) we bought his urguement and voted him in now 6 month later he changed again we are in square 1 but our God is coming soon.
we need our own country, discrimination is getting exhausting
Former president believed his deputy too much he created the problem then came to help us our,,,it's called artificial crisis..then you came to offer solutions..
Hon Mumbi am with you ,,"'poison'" unlike what Munene says central Kenya hated former president ,they were poisoned cheated out of egocentrism and naivety...let's eat our disrespect and ignorance
And we are loving it.
Uhuru said kagwanja is a hypocrite
The guy would oppose Uhuru while the wife was in Uhuru's cabinet 😂. Now the wife is in Ruto's government
why edit the shoe that was live on air ,Citizen you can do better than this
Truth must be censored lest it rattle the powers that be.
Munene be careful not to go Ngunyi mutahi way..we are all Kenyans..
Poor video editing JKF
This was a great conversation. However, the editing 🥹🥹🥹
Hehehehe Chesaaa 😂😂😂😂😂
Why edit Mr. Jeff
Editors, i need the 30 seconds lost between 11:06.20 to 11.06.50, you dont have to...
Was the editing necessary?
Who edited this thing🤔
Stop censoring....
You guys are cutting off the most important parts
Seriously guys, if you are to cut off some parts at least don't make me know that you did. Feels like I missed everything I was looking for
Yaani Ndindi Nyoro amepeleka a whole deputy president mbio hivi! President William Ruto should as a matter of urgency call Ndindi and order him down. Ruto must protect his deputy. He promised that!! At the same time Riggy G. should sit down. Calm down. And act as The Deputy President Of Kenya. Kenyans are capable of discerning and knowing who's at fault. For now i faulty Ndindi Nyoro.
Too much editing
Was unwatchable last night. Work on the transmission frequencies or whatever causes the disjoint.
Uhuru Kenyatta failed the mountain by destroying Jublee period
😅😅😅😅, I think you live in Kenya in day time and sleep out of Kenya at night🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣.....whose said jubilee belongs to Mt. Kenya
Jubilee was just a bus to take president to state house for 2nd term,because Jubilee was fabricated by two Party's TNA+URP= jubilee
Very poor editing
Why invite one sided opinionist why don't you balance the conversation by inviting the riggy g insiders or are you up to something
Who's sensored this
What's with the bad editing
Who are these you have brought here, they are so incoherent,let them go somewhere else
The EDITING/CENSORSHIP is a bit too much. Very DISSAPOINTING!
This interview is so mutilated to the point of not understanding what the full interview is all about. I wonder why it's so . Please whoever is in charge of production of it should learn to edit videos better
So much unnecessary editing, what happened to freedom of speech?
Useless Edit Mr Jeff.I thot am watching part 3 not 2 again
Too much stupid censoring. This is very disrespectful to us as audience. The more reason some of us don't listen to JFK Live. Please respect us.
If you gonna do all these cuts, just dont upload then. It is very unwatchable.
Why edit to draw a certain narrative poooor citizen tv you can do better
jeff, your team can do better than this! why this editing, someone loses ‘ the crux of the matter’!
Munene be careful not to go Ngunyi mutahi way..we are all Kenyans..
Why invite one sided opinionist why don't you balance the conversation by inviting the riggy g insiders or are you up to something
Why invite one sided opinionist why don't you balance the conversation by inviting the riggy g insiders or are you up to something
Why invite one sided opinionist why don't you balance the conversation by inviting the riggy g insiders or are you up to something