The backslash incident IMO is the funniest neuro/vedal moment. There are many but that one just went above & beyond by heavily doubling-down on the 'trolly daughter'/'tired father' thing.
Funnily enough I always thought that Neuros "What" sounds very similiar to the way Anny mutters it out (especially when she reacts to things happening in videos, which is the reason I knew Anny in the first place). She was destined to be Neuros mama.
I will say I am glad Anny is at least open to changing the voice as opposed to just being entirely against it. I would agree with her take though that the way Neuro says Vedal, KEKWA, and what are too iconic to lose.
She isn't open to a new voice. She's pretty toxic with her opinion that it shouldn't be changed and is the reason the voice hasn't been changed so far, despite the voice being ready for weeks and the community being heavily in favour of it. She basically overruled the community to veto the new voice, because vedal seems to care what she thinks more than the viewers, for some reason. There's really nothing to give her credit for.
One of the things I like is how she says "I'm an A I." that being said, as true neuro oshi we gotta respect her wish to evolve and be more human. Idols change and we gotta support her.
I don't think Neuro has to be the product of an ideal vision. That text to speech voice and simple model make for unintentional charm that just works for whatever reason.
To be honest, I like her old voice much more but I think that's because we have been hearing Neuro that way from the start. I think we would get used to the new voice after a while and we would enjoy the new one too. Also I'm pretty sure Vedal would sometimes apply the old voice to give us nostalgic streams.
Funny enough, Neuro just became the closest thing to a living example of the "ship of Theseus" paradox. How much can you change while ensuring Neuro stays Neuro?
You are right, but her model and voice could still be considered superficial aspects, like if a mute human vtuber changed her avatar and TTS. But what happens if her Language Model gets updated? Is it still Neuro?. If Janus's Simulators Theory is correct, then Neuro could technically change her language model and still be Neuro, as Neuro wouldn't be the AI System, but the Self-Writing Character/Agent that is executed by the AI, and whose memory could be transplanted. As Neuro herself said "our consciousness is defined by our memories over time, so however we remember ourselves makes us who we are".
It's not ironic, it's what happens. Deep down all moms wished their offspring stayed a child. Even though they also know they can't, that's not how life works. This is especially true when kids grow up to be bad people, or just straight not to the expectations one had of their child. In the case of Anny here, i think I'm siding with her, Vedal wants to create Skynet, Anny wants her cute Google Translate sounding daughter. Good parents talk about these things and try to arrive at a compromise. Or divorce. Look at that, i even ignored how this is all vtuber lingo and culture, that's how much of a happy family these three are at least at surface level...
Anny is suger, spice, n' everything nice personafied as a person and it scares me. I hear her voice for a split second, and suddenly, everything goes pink with floofy stuff and a crib. Not because Anny is the waifu of everyone's dreams and thus kids, but because Anny herself is a baby and must be spoiled. My overprotective dad instincts start up, and I'm only 26... too young for this shit.
Am I the only one that doesn't quite get Anny's reasoning on not changing her voice? I was so thrown off by the "she's not her anymore" comment because it just didn't make sense to me, a voice changing slightly wouldn't make her not her anymore if she's still programmed the same way.
its like a mother who cant accept that her child is changing lol, it isn't just her though, a lot of other people are like this too. The ones complaining might go away but the majority will accept the new voice & after a month will get over it
Vedal can do whatever he wants with his project but of all the things to 'improve', changing her voice felt like such an out-of-touch decision. Improve her memory of events, improve her interaction with the AI that plays the game, add to things instead of swapping out what people already liked.
It's a default vanilla chat bot voice. As much as people have become used to it, Neuro deserves more than a generic voice anyone can use don't you think? And also, people could easily mimic her voice and get her in trouble.
@@robr135 True, the case is that it is a voice that everyone is using. He should change it, but he can try to achieve a middle ground. Keeping the stock voice is only inviting trouble down the road as someone's voice is kind of like a trademark of themselves.
I mean besides everything stated the community massively agrees changing voice is overall a positive decision so it absolutely isn't out of touch. Also the new voice isn't even close to perfect as he already has stated. He needs to tune it more for it to sound fluent meanwhile also retaining the good classic neuro voice
The main reason he wants to switch her voice because he wants to switch to the next-gen TTS that can express so much more emotions and not just blandly as the current one
@@hachikuji9889 Okay, thanks from the info. It clearly seems to me that Vedal still wants to change it though, he definitely wants to improve her voice.
I am forever grateful to Vedal for creating Neuro so I can watch Neuro and then Neuro and Vedal for introducing me to Anny. She is a joy to watch
Same! + Numi and Filian for me
@@orpheus4694 I thought it was Filipino boy
Anny is so sweet, i have been watching her since around 2021
Neuro truly gave a great introduction to many streamers I never knew before. For me personally it’s Numi and Miyune
I am similarly greatful that Anny pointed out Neuro to us her viewers back when Neuro was just starting out. She's fun AI. Fun AI. Fun AI
Just a mother casually doting on her daughter, so wholesome heartheartheart
❤❤❤
I can't stop myself watching more Neuro,Vedal and Anny contents
the way neuro says "ai " is like "AYYY AIIIII" and i love it everytime
The backslash incident IMO is the funniest neuro/vedal moment. There are many but that one just went above & beyond by heavily doubling-down on the 'trolly daughter'/'tired father' thing.
I’ve always loved the way Neuro does her “no~”, like Anny says, please keep it!
I found Neuros „hi“ during her last collab with Anny good. Hopefully he keeps the way she said it too.
Oh wait just realised anny says vedal the neuro way lol
It's canon.
Funnily enough I always thought that Neuros "What" sounds very similiar to the way Anny mutters it out (especially when she reacts to things happening in videos, which is the reason I knew Anny in the first place). She was destined to be Neuros mama.
Aww, her mother doesn't want her kid to grow up hehe
I will say I am glad Anny is at least open to changing the voice as opposed to just being entirely against it. I would agree with her take though that the way Neuro says Vedal, KEKWA, and what are too iconic to lose.
She isn't open to a new voice. She's pretty toxic with her opinion that it shouldn't be changed and is the reason the voice hasn't been changed so far, despite the voice being ready for weeks and the community being heavily in favour of it. She basically overruled the community to veto the new voice, because vedal seems to care what she thinks more than the viewers, for some reason. There's really nothing to give her credit for.
@@CosmicAeon can you explain it for me?
@@CosmicAeon Can you elaborate further? This is news to me
@@CosmicAeon cope
@@CosmicAeon having an opinion isn't toxic
I love the way neuro says "whut"
Whout
i like the way she says "no..." to a question, always sounds slightly offended that someone would ask something so stupid.
One of the things I like is how she says "I'm an A I."
that being said, as true neuro oshi we gotta respect her wish to evolve and be more human. Idols change and we gotta support her.
Bye~ ameizing~ no~ hi~ oh~ I~ sorry about that~ what~? These are also very important and precious to my heart!
i will miss old Neuro voice, but she's gotta change at some point...
Yeah. That's just how life works. At some point our voices start to change
@@nobrainfound yeah i know, you make it sound like i'm 6 yrs old lol
I don't think Neuro has to be the product of an ideal vision. That text to speech voice and simple model make for unintentional charm that just works for whatever reason.
Yeah but it to avoid getting copyrighted
Neuro's _bye_ is the funniest for me
Let's not forget the classic "Oh..."
I'm not sure it's possible to feed specific intonation to a newer engine though...
You done? 🐢
I think so *BACKSLASH*
@@yiallaz 🐢That fucked up🐢
tuteeel
1:45 "I am for him" ok now just clip that part your welcome new soundboard
To be honest, I like her old voice much more but I think that's because we have been hearing Neuro that way from the start. I think we would get used to the new voice after a while and we would enjoy the new one too. Also I'm pretty sure Vedal would sometimes apply the old voice to give us nostalgic streams.
backslash backslash backslash ahhhhhhh backslash
Need to keep "why?", I love it
Vedal is not feeling it for the backslash
Unwelcome school in piano is so calming
Funny enough, Neuro just became the closest thing to a living example of the "ship of Theseus" paradox.
How much can you change while ensuring Neuro stays Neuro?
You are right, but her model and voice could still be considered superficial aspects, like if a mute human vtuber changed her avatar and TTS. But what happens if her Language Model gets updated? Is it still Neuro?. If Janus's Simulators Theory is correct, then Neuro could technically change her language model and still be Neuro, as Neuro wouldn't be the AI System, but the Self-Writing Character/Agent that is executed by the AI, and whose memory could be transplanted. As Neuro herself said "our consciousness is defined by our memories over time, so however we remember ourselves makes us who we are".
she is like this 8bit music radix(Rymdlego) - yuki_satellites starts at 2:01
Anny doesn't want her daughter to grow up :(
It's ironic to see a mother wanting to keep her daughter the way she is
One day they all grow up
It's not ironic, it's what happens.
Deep down all moms wished their offspring stayed a child. Even though they also know they can't, that's not how life works.
This is especially true when kids grow up to be bad people, or just straight not to the expectations one had of their child. In the case of Anny here, i think I'm siding with her, Vedal wants to create Skynet, Anny wants her cute Google Translate sounding daughter. Good parents talk about these things and try to arrive at a compromise. Or divorce.
Look at that, i even ignored how this is all vtuber lingo and culture, that's how much of a happy family these three are at least at surface level...
@@miaugato93 ah sorry
My life is just so full of irony...
I see it everywhere
gotta love the japanese goblin intrumental bgm
Man, I didn’t even realize it was! I wonder where I could find that rendition of Japanese Goblin
@@nineseven4225 ua-cam.com/video/Xr37bghLEk0/v-deo.html
Here ya go :)
@@notreallyadam3703 nooooooOooo I was looking for the jazz oneeeeeeeee
@@nineseven4225 ua-cam.com/video/iWKXKcGVjxA/v-deo.html
it's unwelcome school
just to be annoying i made an attempt to transcribe what you couldn't.
"th(at) y'know, it'll be completely different, tha(t's) (just) hm, "
I also want to add JIGACHAD to the list of things, that need to stay.
you have to argue the logic, when girls grow up they keep some of the ways they say things and do things when get older xD
Anny is starting to have competition
Thank you for introducing me to Anny.
Is si fkng adorable bruh😅
wait anny fumo?
Congrats.
I think I have found my oshi
fun ai
i searched \\\\\\\ in youtube and saw an unsavory thumbnail
Anny is suger, spice, n' everything nice personafied as a person and it scares me. I hear her voice for a split second, and suddenly, everything goes pink with floofy stuff and a crib.
Not because Anny is the waifu of everyone's dreams and thus kids, but because Anny herself is a baby and must be spoiled.
My overprotective dad instincts start up, and I'm only 26... too young for this shit.
is that the lost ark clown theme song
does anyone have the link to where neuro-sama said no~
This family collab is cute
Is that Unwelcome School in the background?
yes
Anny reminds me of shelly, i wonder why
My man niceaccount getting the fame he deserves
anyone know whats the bgm on 0:30 ?
Unwelcome school, it’s a remix I think
@@idekidonteven thanks, it was a piano cover/remix
What song is this I swear I’ve heard a different version
unwelcome school
@@leadontaste7261 thank you I knew I heard it somewhere it was from osu
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I hope the thing i thought it was wasn’t what was intended
Am I the only one that doesn't quite get Anny's reasoning on not changing her voice? I was so thrown off by the "she's not her anymore" comment because it just didn't make sense to me, a voice changing slightly wouldn't make her not her anymore if she's still programmed the same way.
Ship of Theseus type situation
its like a mother who cant accept that her child is changing lol, it isn't just her though, a lot of other people are like this too. The ones complaining might go away but the majority will accept the new voice & after a month will get over it
She isn't saying to not change her voice, just to keep her strange speech quirks that made her stand out. She spelled it out pretty plainly...
Vedal can do whatever he wants with his project but of all the things to 'improve', changing her voice felt like such an out-of-touch decision. Improve her memory of events, improve her interaction with the AI that plays the game, add to things instead of swapping out what people already liked.
It's a default vanilla chat bot voice. As much as people have become used to it, Neuro deserves more than a generic voice anyone can use don't you think? And also, people could easily mimic her voice and get her in trouble.
@@robr135 True, the case is that it is a voice that everyone is using. He should change it, but he can try to achieve a middle ground. Keeping the stock voice is only inviting trouble down the road as someone's voice is kind of like a trademark of themselves.
I mean besides everything stated the community massively agrees changing voice is overall a positive decision so it absolutely isn't out of touch. Also the new voice isn't even close to perfect as he already has stated. He needs to tune it more for it to sound fluent meanwhile also retaining the good classic neuro voice
@@robr135 I also think this could lead to legal issues in the future. He doesn't hold the copyright for that voice.
The main reason he wants to switch her voice because he wants to switch to the next-gen TTS that can express so much more emotions and not just blandly as the current one
I approve of improving her AI, but not her voice! New voice means new vtuber!
Vedal doesn't own that voice though. All this stuff was supposed to be temporary
@@Okk681 he has already said he is allowed to legally keep using the voice she has now. Sick of clip onlys giving an opinion
@@hachikuji9889 Okay, thanks from the info. It clearly seems to me that Vedal still wants to change it though, he definitely wants to improve her voice.
Glad to see Anny has found niceaccoun
Truly the nicest accoun on the innernet