Not gonna lie, kinda hurts seeing P16 be borderline obsolete. Twas the first heavy truck I found that FELT like a proper heavy truck that could just eat up mud (and fuel) and keep on going with a heavy trailer. Sure it can ONLY take trailers and has no real addons to speak of, but the fact that it could still tow other trucks through mud like that one special trailer mission in Alaska on the first map with the long stretch of super mud, just keeps a special place in my heart.
Indeed. When you get to unlocking it early on it really makes an introduction. A beast that can really turn the tides of your fleet. Nowadays it doesn't have the same impact, even for new players that buy all the DLC from the start as there's heavy trucks like the Mastodon that you can have access to immediately. However, playing it sequentially and you get an early game introduction into what a heavy truck is capable of.
It will always remain in my fleet, the really high saddle and its off road capabilities make it almost unmatched for towing oversized super heavy trailers. Plus, being from the Pacific Northwest myself, it will forever have a place in my heart.
There's a really cool mod for a twin steer p16 with the regular frame length and it's extremely small file size like 0.3 or something like that.. the only problem is there's this bug with it where the back is kinda messed up. Like an invisible extra 2 feet of frame on the back that won't allow you to use hardly any of the trailers. They won't really turn it gets stuck in the invisible frame extension... Shame because it's a real monster of a truck and looks phenomenal but it's only really usable as a scout or recovery. If you wanna pull a winched truck like for some of the missions it will pull anything..
That's why it just a mention, not part of list..I just want that foldable log cart or atleast some unique element that make me use it more cause I love the truck.
Two things, first with the mention, P16, its quite understandable that something like the Boar outclasses the P16, but when it comes to like the "Kenny", I disagree, as its not a reasonable comparison, the P16 has a massive advantage over the kenny when it comes to pulling big long trailers. And that is the length of the truck, the longer the truck the harder it is to manouver the longer trailers around corners, trees etc. 2nd, the fleetstar, calling that obselete hurts :,( Sure its one of the very first trucks you get, but even later on, as long as you give it some tires and other upgrades. Its straight up an amazing medium truck! Sure i wont use it to pull heavy trailers, but I feel thats just the wrong job for the right truck. Instead I use it with crane and bed, for the smaller things going back and forth, sure there are similar sized trucks that beat mud better, but not at that fuel efficiency! Also I dont understand calling it unstable? Its not top heavy, no issue as long as obstacles are taken at reasonable speed. Oh and dont forget the Fleetstars approchangle! With the front wheels that far forward it takes a lot for the bumper to get stuck on something. Sorry for rant.
I still use the Fleetstar a lot for those missions where you need to go along the river picking up cargo with a crane. I don't know why, but the Fleetstar always seems to get the job done for me better than other trucks.
@@SD1ONE A massive improvement for the P16 would be a winch point in the V cutout of the cabin protector, from where you could attach a winch to the log cart and pull it on top. I don't care if that's the only thing that winch point could attach to, it'd still be a game changer.
The fact that I still routinely use all of these trucks except the Fleetstar (I also don't have the Renegade) shows that these evaluations largely depend on how people approach SnowRunner and what kind of playstyle they have. At this point in the game one can basically do everything with the two big ZikZs, the Kenworth 963, and use only the Tatarin and Yar 87 as scouts. And die of boredom in the process. ;-) But I always appreciate your videos and point of view, because they're always thought-provoking. Keep up the good work! //Rick
I never played Russian regions, cos, like, I'm already living in Russia, nothing interesting for me there, and I always use free trucks. I use FleetStar as my main routine hauler, I WISH I hated it, but no matter how hard I push the 'Star it just refuses to disappoint me. It's one of the practically most fuel efficient American trucks in the game (means tested over real mild offeoad course, not just by revving the engine) because it's so lightweight, it has fast steering, which makes it a spicy little driver's truck. I also appreciate manual AWD and differential locks, adds to the driving pleasure. The real obsolete truck is, unfortynately, the prettiest in the game - the Paystar 5070. There's simply no point in buying one when FleetStar can do everything it can, and the Mk38 VASTLY outclasses it. And those add-on choices are irrelevant, cos you always can use whatever free option available for that one task that can't be done using the Mk38 or FleetStar.
@@romteb That's part of what makes the Fleetstar fun to drive. I enjoy working within its envelope, and manouvering it on terrain. The Kodiak has other worse challenges, but also has its place staging fuel and repairs and trailers along better roads.
It’s a decent trailer hauler(not the semi type though) if u keep 1 pallet of wood/or a scout in the back(tow truck style) to keep rear traction it keeps all the wheels on the ground and it pulls very well.
P12's obselesence is why I have no qualms using the P12 ORCA II mod. Sure, if you max it out it is basically OP but if you configure it well, it's just a vanilla P12 with some realistic upgrades to bring it even with other trucks in game. In my opinion, this is the best part of modding - experimenting to find mods that fit well in the game without being OP
That mod is my regularly used truck now when I have to drag repetitive loads of cargo over long distances/poor terrain. Definitely OP, but so much fun to load up to the max.
The Fleetstar kind of sucks until you put good offroad tires on it- then it's actually kind of good. I mean it's not going to plow through mud and never get stuck, but as long as you drive sensibly, it can tackle most situations. It's meant to be your most capable truck at the start of the game, and it does that job very well.
The freightliner at #6 is actually quite good, youre just using it wrong. Put chained tires on it, and use it as a high saddle truck. It has some of the highest torque in the game, and it's short wheelbase is good for maneuverability with the longer trailers. I see people use long wheel base trucks with long trailers, and they get stuck on turns all the time. Everyone gets that wrong, it's hilarious to watch.
Sometimes it is about the voyage and not the destination. With the released map DLCs of the Year 3-Pass I've found myself using all of the western-type trucks and scouts and having fun with them. These maps contain large areas where you can still use vehicles without superior abilities. So I can't agree with you on the "obsolete" part. Just hours ago I've used the ANK 38 with trailer to transport some supplies and metal beams to an oil pump building and the small amount of fuel carried in its tank made the trip even more interesting to me.
It could use better tires, but really with that wide raft of wheels in back it still does OK. I use the P12 almost exclusively as my large crane vehicle because its stability with the crane is pretty good.
0:36 fun fact the letters "ЖУК" on the license plate stands for "Beetle" or "Bug" and letter Ж with other Russian letters that do not have similar outlines in the Latin alphabet are not used in Russian license plates (except for diplomatic ones)
2:46 I find that the frieghtliner is best used as vehicle transport. It has excellent pulling power, and having the tapered heavy transport trailer hitch helps with maneuverability. 4:48 I still use the P12 as a medium log hauler simply because I have no dlcs. It still works pretty well as long as you aren't climbing a mountain, and its still awesome to drive lol 7:04 The P16 may have been outted by the boar and kenworth, but it still holds a place in my and many others hearts as the truck with the best horn
My biggest issue with the P12 was that it felt very underpowered. I ran non-dual construction tires on it and even in low the truck would just freeze up in amything above moderate mud. It didn't offer enough power to keep going, and I often found myself winching it out of relatively easy conditions. The P16, on the other hand, was a great truck. Sure it was only RWD, but it had full time Diff Lock and pulled like a locomotive. The problem with that, however, is the lack of options (if I remember correctly, there are no chained or studded tires for winter regions, and it can only be used as a tractor), and the horrendous turning radius. Because Diff lock is always on (meaning both the left and right wheels turn at the same speed) and not having power to the front wheels to help redirect the nose of the truck, even road bends were like 11-point turns. Eventually, it just got to the point where I gave up and mained the Kodiak for cargo, the GMC MH9500 for low-saddle trailers or large (and somewhat accessible) orders (as I paired it with a 5-slot sideboard trailer and minicrane), and the 745C for logs. I still have the P16 and use it for longer logs, I just have to perform winch-assisted turns and try my best to stay near winch points. All of this because I'm too stubborn to use anything else 😅
Lots of these vehicles are starting trucks, they doesn't have to be the best ones. And I think some variety is really good, not all vehicles have to be super offroaders.
Yeah "obsolete" isn't really the right term because they're incredibly useful when they're all you have at the start, like any starting equipment in any game with RPG/upgrade mechanics.
Thanks for your videos, they are really fun to watch, keep it up! I wish the text went through some automatic grammar / spelling-checking software like grammarly or even deepl. A couple of unfortunate typos do not match the otherwise superbly executed video (footage, editing and the rest)! Cheers!
In defense of the P12, it's a good Truck with a still decent addon selection for a heavy class, it comes with the base game, and is unlocked at a reasonably low level. I bought mine when I was starting out and still use it regularly
After driving it for a bit, I've actually found the Sprinter works quite well as a sort of 'Mega Scout'. It might not have an autonomous winch or a bunch of supplies, but set up properly it'll go quite a ways on its regular tank, and it's stable enough that you really have to do sonething stupid to roll it. The Fleetstar is easily my "Jack of all trades, Master of none" truck. If I'm ever uncertain about what I'm going to need, its the truck I'll jump to. There are better trucks, yes, but the Fleetstar is a truck that will always get me there, if a tad slowly. I recently gave the Freightliner another try, and honestly, it really surprised me. Excellent power, and thanks to its short length, its excellent for backing up trailers. Its a one trick pony, but as long as you keep its tanks filled, its a great heavy hauler that can do almost everything the bigger trucks can do. The Tatra could very much use an autonomous winch, but using the base engine actually really improves its driveability. Its just too fast with its top engine imo.
I use the Sprinter in the same way. I also use it for those tasks where you have to visit several locations in a row. The Sprinter is fast and responsive, and very decent on all kind of terrain, so these tasks can be dealt with in a more enjoyable way.
Man You using the Navistar as reference for gameplay after this long really shows how awesome of a truck it is, its probably in my top 10 if im honest.
I don't agree that Fleetstar is obsolete. It's a legend, I still use it for car transportation from time to time. And used before for short logging. The devs remembered about it and gave the Fleetstar a mammoth skin paint. The legend lives!
Sure....I like using it occationally for challenge's sake but If It won't be my choice for somethings serous....It's balance is little off when upgraded....Also It has this tag of starter truck (same with chevy ck)...little buff in any catagory like addons, balance, tires or some unique feature would give it a new life IMO....Some vehicles in list are kind of nit-picking I feel.
Agree on these! Turning to mods makes some of these better, thought....the modded Hulkster Fleetstar is pretty solid, if not a bit "tippy", and the Pacific Orca mod is probably my go-to truck now.
2:05 totally agree! The Tatra 805 is so much fun due to its high power an light weight, but it's instable. It needs a auto-winch so it can mess with Actaeon and F750 as heavy scout/light supporter In my eyes the utility addons for newer trucks make them superior over older, basically good trucks. I e.g. P512, ANK or AZOV 5519 would have fuel addon on their roof, they would be waay better in comparism to the new ones!
I am so glad that the twinsteer isn't in this list. I love that truck it is the flagship of my fleet it has been with me for my entire snowrunner career and it will stay with me for the rest of my career.
I realy love my P12 and P16. I wish they had a little more Powerful Engine (especially the P12) I think when P16 get able to install AWD he would be close to OP.
I agree about the Jeep, Freightliner M916A1 and Pacific. But WS 49X? I like it a lot. Bigger wheels than Wolf Pack trucks have, difflock, the only vehicle in the game with double wheels on the lift axle. Plus it's rather pretty (I just wish they add a newer 49X after a facelift).
Recently I have started tweaking a lot of truck for my own pleasure and focusing on matching specs with the real thing. I found sales brochures for Pacific trucks saying that they do offer 6x6 configurations for their line up not to mention *very* prominently state that they will customize the trucks to order so long as their Engineering department approved it. So when you add AWD and a low saddle to the P16 it's completely legit. I do feel that some trucks like the Freightliner are actually bugged in terms of trailer fitment and that they are in need of patching. Funny thing about a lot of obsolete trucks is that by the time I unlock the newer better trucks I still tend to keep driving the old ones because I can't be bothered to stop long enough to make the switch and refit the new truck at great cost as well.
Id like to add 1 huge pet peeve about the CK1500....how come even years later Saber Interactive has not noticed or changed the interior of the truck? No matter what paint you pick the interior is always deep blue... feels like such an oversight
Honestly, never tought of the 805 as obsolete. I use it quite commonly, and the small size of the truck makes it a good scout especially if you want to naivgate straight through a heavily forested area. And if you like a truck just beacause, mods are good solution , wether you want a more realistic depiction of your favourite truck stats-wise or just to make it blatantly OP. Long story short - Tatra 805 -> a good lil trucc. Still needs a scout winch though…
The only good thing about the P12 (during the Michigan and Alaska maps) is having the maintenance add on. With that, it carries more stuff. As opposed to having a heavy duty crane on it, it's VERY unstable.
Can second that I use the P12 for support and generally works great in that role Even if a truck is stuck it does have enough leftover power to pull it out of a mud pit
I 100% disagree with the 49X being on this list, from my experience both variants of it are excellent trucks and aren‘t in need of any changes. They have a nice fuel tank and are really decent at offroading, i even used both 49Xs in Amur extensively and they did an excellent job, as of now it‘s one of the few trucks that i took to every map
One truck in and I've already been personally wronged. I am still using the Fleetstar to this day, because it's great, and it can do anything I ask of it. I agree with the Chevy, but I still use 2 of them because I don't use RU vehicles in NA, so the Chevy is the best NA at what it does. Agree on the ANK. It's fun to drive, but I use other trucks way more. Don is one of the few scouts I've simply never used or owned (mainly because there's no mission giving you a free one). I use other scouts and don't feel the need to get a Don. Never used the Freightliner, but yes. Yeah, I get why the Tatra 805 is on here. I like the unique service addon, and I use it as a mobile repair truck, but it's not my favorite. No fun to drive. Haven't been to Tennessee yet, but I've heard the Sprinter is straight up useless. I have no problem with the P12, and I use it all the time, usually as a heavy crane rig. However, I haven't gotten the new Kenworth yet, so that may very well be the successor. Don't be hatin' on my Renegade. Among NA scouts, it's absolutely the best at worming its way ANYWHERE. You ACTUALLY put the 49X on here? It has power out the ass, can take almost any addon, AND it has stellar fuel economy regardless. That thing is better than most other NA 6x6s. I can kinda agree with the P16, but it's a special case. It's only designed to do one thing, and it does that in the game very well, better than a lot of trucks. It just sucks at literally everything else.
My biggest qualm with this game recently has been that it seems like most the American or Canadian trucks are weaker than a glass of water while all the Russia trucks are 8x8’s with two 24 valve engines, just something ridiculous. That paired with the fact that every map since the first three original maps and the kola map have all been 3 foot deep mud swamps that every vanilla truck struggles with, hell I’ve even had some mod trucks struggles in areas, it just seems like they add those areas to make it take more time convincing you that there is way more DLC than there actually is.
The Dan isnt really outclassed by anything though. It has the strongest engine option while simultaneously being one of the only trucks that can haul stuff besides a heavy trailer
Ngl i love the p16 too even if there are better trucks to use, its just like a feeling of "it good but not unstopable" and its make the gameplay more fun to play
Fleetstar is a great all around truck through the entirety or the game except Amur. I use it consistently. Totally agree on Silverado, you can sell it and buy the IH Pickup and its a straight upgrade in every single way. Ank is easily one of my favorite trucks, put a fuel trailer on it, amd its tires, and you have an unstoppable truck that can haul anything. Don71 I totally agree, bought it once at launch and have never used it again. The Freightliner is another truck I use all the time, it's an awesome truck for big trailers and if I don't need the P16, it's my go to for mission trailers. Tatra 805, I agree, looks cool, outclassed by literally all the other small medium trucks. Sprinter, I agree, it's pretty useless, but I don't think it should be included simply because it's not ever meant to be used for work. P12, I agree to a point, the Kenny is a straight upgrade bit the P12 is am excellent truck for hauling 2 sets of medium logs anywhere. CJ7 Agreed, looks great, falls below almost everything in utility. 49X Hard disagree, might br my most used truck, will haul anything, and only annoyance is tag axle, but it's fast, tough, strong and looks great. P16 How dare you slander the greatest piece of machinery in the game. Bonus: No folding log carts is a sin.
I mostly agree, but I quite like the military ANK. Yes it’s thirsty but sometimes a mudtire-equipped compact bed truck is what you need. And I only play region-correct trucks so little other options in North America.
Don loses its stability altogether on max suspension upgrade, personally I loved using it, the little man carried me through scouting so many maps by squeezing through trees and carving its own trails, it may not be the best, but it certainly desserves a spot in everyones hearts. Edit: I just noticed, Dude why is the 805 on this list?! That shit is my go-to scout truck ever since it dropped! Being the size of the loaf and having medium-heavy truck offroad/mud tires makes it so objectively good! I have the croc and the new small zikz, and I still stand firmly by the tatra in comparisson to them both.
P16's tires keeps the truck playable. Those things can literally help you crawl in deep mud even if its a slow crawl 😂. Also, I still use Fleetstar as my recovery truck. That thing has been helped us since the start, so it will stay with me till the end. Not the highway GMC though, that thing is absurdly unstable 🤣
From all mentioned I personaly would not agree on Tatra. I use it extensively as refueling truck and time to time as scout alongside Crocodile and Bandit. Other than that - I can agree with your list.
I hope they give the 916a1 a do over. I drove that for years. It doesn’t have that wench system in the back. It only has a tool storage in the back and it’s not really big. The fuel tank can hold 100 gallons.
I’m still early game ( working on last 3 maps of Michigan simulataneously ) Here’s my kit Kolob - go anywhere do anything mobile Azov - really good on solo missions 2 x fleetstars - cheap AF , use it as a mobile fuel and service depot for Kolob / other trucks that pass by + as scout support Chevy with the big engine - best scout so far ( if it can get some consistent fuel supply ) Tried Ank , paystar , etc - found em to be to tippy
man, most of these vehicles were hyped when snowrunner was announced. its a shame they get put out by better vehicles, but I still prefer to use base game vehicles because its more of a challenge.
i would have used the CK1500 a lot more if the engine sfx didn’t sound so bad. i hate hearing it recycling the power, like the Western Star 47x NF 1424. It’s not as bad. But they both have that looping effect that i hate.
@TheRealKensai86 ok yeah the fuel tank is wack for its size, but otherwise I prefer the p512, faster and same tires, no full-time diff lock is not as good
UOD wheels are inferior to mud tires but they have way better rims options so i prefere these for more estetic reason. they could give uod wheels + size option to give them some sort of adventage over mud wheels or at least give mud wheels similar rim options.
Trucks are never ever obsolete so long as they can carry a crane, fuel or repairs in the forms of bed attachments or trailers. I always set up mobile repair stations along the paved roads with vehicles like these especially for maps with no garages or maps that have garages very far from the tunnels
I've played over 1400 hrs and every available DLC you can buy. I will say there are a bunch of obsolete trucks. But for this I'll stick my neck. The fleetstar is a beast when setup right that little starter truck still surprises me. Once you learn high and low gear this truck equiped with highway transmission. Not bad. The Tayga trucks are some my top trucks far from obsolete The rest I can agree are obsolete now
Thing about the p12 compared to the kenworth is that the p12 could still be used as a heavy support truck with either a fuel tanker or the maintenance addon
I think ken also has an extended fuel tank and extended maintenance addon...only addon that P12 has and ken hasn't is the one I showed in thumbnail which is not even released yet
@@SD1ONE aye it’s got the small and extended tanker addon, if you’re using the Kenny for transporting cargo and don’t want to get rid of the p12 I reckon it still has a chance rather than being liquidated for a bit of cash
I still love the old P16. But mostly because I#m a hardcore player and thusly extremly frugil, wich means that I generally don't take trucks that aren't free.So I'm dragging it along for the good old logging hauls.
I use "Real Life mod" which adds a bunch of stuff to the game and the vehicles, especially many different types of tires and upgrades, so old vehicles would still be useful now
I have mods that improve the P16 and the Freightliner and they're some of the best trucks I have. The Freightliner is ultra powerful and I use it for 5th Wheel attachments exclusively. The P16 is given double tires on the whole thing and can use AWD on it. These are only mods though. I imagine these aren't very good trucks for their respective classes.
Fleetstar is still a good truck for easier regions. You didn't show it perform in mud with offroad tires and of course it's going to tip over on huge cliffs and in tight river beds. Almost all scouts are obsolete, anyway. Besides, the Sentinel is a lot easier to tip over than the CK1500. Anks are fine, although they are only for short trips. UOD II and OHD I have the same stats. Check Maprunner. P12 is also good enough and it fits logging nicely. Nerf Kenworth?! Are you serious? 49X is just like the Fleetstar. Use it in less difficult maps and it'll do just fine.
Same stats for terrain, OHDs weigh more so they have far better traction. The Boar released with UOD only, and got stuck on dry grass, they updated it to OHD and it was 100 times better. That chart with stats is an ok guide to start.
@@frumsmcnoodles323, I don't know about the weight, but what you say could be true. Even so, saying that OHD I are far and 100 times better than UOD II is a big stretch. The difference between them is minimal. For example, the Paystar is equipped with OHD I, but it performs roughly the same as the White Western Star, which is equipped with UOD II. No offence regarding the Boar, but it is still bad for such a big truck. OHD tires don't make it 100 better. Be serious. A far better tire than the UOD II for mud would be the MHS II or the TMHS. Even if the weight aspect is true, the OHD I is marginally any better than the UOD II and the difference in performance most likely comes from the truck itself and the terrain they are driven on. By the way, in the Western Star section of the video, did you notice the trucks weren't tested on the same mud? The 49X was ran on a mud that was already driven in at least once before. That made the difference in that test, not the tires.
In my opinion, Don, 805, Sprinter, P12 and Renegade were obsolete on arrival. The only reason to use any of them, for me, is just because. Because I'm stubborn in every truck getting a turn.
Same here but after giving multiple chances to DON, 805 and sprinter...I still don't enjoy using them, so I stop using them...Renegade & P12 are still enjoyable but yeah those new vehicles are making it difficult for me to keep using them.
@@SchazmenRassir whole racing DLC was pointless, At first I thought they're trying something new but NO...it was sort of a passive add for their Dakar rally game.
I totally disagree with all of this. None of those trucks become obsolete. I use all of them a lot. I would even say that most of these vehicles are more fun to drive than many others in the game. Like the Kolobs. I almost never use the Kolobs as they just are not that fun to me. The Fleetstar and the P16 are among my favourite trucks in the game and are very useful through all stages of the game.
@@SD1ONE You are probably right. And I think that is sad. I feel like people are ruining the game experience for themselves without realizing it. However, that said, what is most popular on the mod charts is not necessarily indicative of what most players like. Depends how many players play with mods in the first place and how many mods people use. In my 1800hrs of play time I have only tried a couple custom maps out and that is it.
Honeslty respect to your opinions, but in this case, idk if they're "obsolete" trucks, just not op meta trucks like the mastodon or any other easy mode trucks
Not gonna lie, kinda hurts seeing P16 be borderline obsolete. Twas the first heavy truck I found that FELT like a proper heavy truck that could just eat up mud (and fuel) and keep on going with a heavy trailer. Sure it can ONLY take trailers and has no real addons to speak of, but the fact that it could still tow other trucks through mud like that one special trailer mission in Alaska on the first map with the long stretch of super mud, just keeps a special place in my heart.
Still use it as a logging truck in my fleet
Indeed. When you get to unlocking it early on it really makes an introduction. A beast that can really turn the tides of your fleet. Nowadays it doesn't have the same impact, even for new players that buy all the DLC from the start as there's heavy trucks like the Mastodon that you can have access to immediately. However, playing it sequentially and you get an early game introduction into what a heavy truck is capable of.
Still my go-to for heavy trailers
It will always remain in my fleet, the really high saddle and its off road capabilities make it almost unmatched for towing oversized super heavy trailers. Plus, being from the Pacific Northwest myself, it will forever have a place in my heart.
There's a really cool mod for a twin steer p16 with the regular frame length and it's extremely small file size like 0.3 or something like that.. the only problem is there's this bug with it where the back is kinda messed up. Like an invisible extra 2 feet of frame on the back that won't allow you to use hardly any of the trailers. They won't really turn it gets stuck in the invisible frame extension... Shame because it's a real monster of a truck and looks phenomenal but it's only really usable as a scout or recovery. If you wanna pull a winched truck like for some of the missions it will pull anything..
You can say the P16 is obsolete but sometimes a really big truck is all you need to have fun. Love how it looks and its "I can pull it" aura
That's why it just a mention, not part of list..I just want that foldable log cart or atleast some unique element that make me use it more cause I love the truck.
Two things, first with the mention, P16, its quite understandable that something like the Boar outclasses the P16, but when it comes to like the "Kenny", I disagree, as its not a reasonable comparison, the P16 has a massive advantage over the kenny when it comes to pulling big long trailers.
And that is the length of the truck, the longer the truck the harder it is to manouver the longer trailers around corners, trees etc.
2nd, the fleetstar, calling that obselete hurts :,(
Sure its one of the very first trucks you get, but even later on, as long as you give it some tires and other upgrades.
Its straight up an amazing medium truck! Sure i wont use it to pull heavy trailers, but I feel thats just the wrong job for the right truck.
Instead I use it with crane and bed, for the smaller things going back and forth, sure there are similar sized trucks that beat mud better, but not at that fuel efficiency! Also I dont understand calling it unstable? Its not top heavy, no issue as long as obstacles are taken at reasonable speed.
Oh and dont forget the Fleetstars approchangle! With the front wheels that far forward it takes a lot for the bumper to get stuck on something.
Sorry for rant.
I still use the Fleetstar a lot for those missions where you need to go along the river picking up cargo with a crane. I don't know why, but the Fleetstar always seems to get the job done for me better than other trucks.
@@SD1ONE A massive improvement for the P16 would be a winch point in the V cutout of the cabin protector, from where you could attach a winch to the log cart and pull it on top. I don't care if that's the only thing that winch point could attach to, it'd still be a game changer.
@ You mean that modded log cart for P16 by TWM...It's basically that.
The fact that I still routinely use all of these trucks except the Fleetstar (I also don't have the Renegade) shows that these evaluations largely depend on how people approach SnowRunner and what kind of playstyle they have. At this point in the game one can basically do everything with the two big ZikZs, the Kenworth 963, and use only the Tatarin and Yar 87 as scouts. And die of boredom in the process. ;-) But I always appreciate your videos and point of view, because they're always thought-provoking. Keep up the good work! //Rick
agreed. take the gmc 9500, take off the awd, leave diff lock on it, put those off road tires on, and just have a fun challenge.
I use the fleet star a lot. The heavy duty trucks are by far my favorite it’s good once you get a lot of the upgrades
Agree. For example I refrain from using trucks in their "wrong" area. So no russian trucks in north america for example.
I used a engine mod for the fleet star just to keep it relavent
I never played Russian regions, cos, like, I'm already living in Russia, nothing interesting for me there, and I always use free trucks. I use FleetStar as my main routine hauler, I WISH I hated it, but no matter how hard I push the 'Star it just refuses to disappoint me. It's one of the practically most fuel efficient American trucks in the game (means tested over real mild offeoad course, not just by revving the engine) because it's so lightweight, it has fast steering, which makes it a spicy little driver's truck. I also appreciate manual AWD and differential locks, adds to the driving pleasure.
The real obsolete truck is, unfortynately, the prettiest in the game - the Paystar 5070. There's simply no point in buying one when FleetStar can do everything it can, and the Mk38 VASTLY outclasses it. And those add-on choices are irrelevant, cos you always can use whatever free option available for that one task that can't be done using the Mk38 or FleetStar.
I still use the fleetstar and have throughout the base game and all 10 phases. Imo the truck is still decent
Like the kodiac the front is too light, loss of steering happens a lot when the back is heavy loaded
@@romteb That's part of what makes the Fleetstar fun to drive. I enjoy working within its envelope, and manouvering it on terrain. The Kodiak has other worse challenges, but also has its place staging fuel and repairs and trailers along better roads.
It’s a decent trailer hauler(not the semi type though) if u keep 1 pallet of wood/or a scout in the back(tow truck style) to keep rear traction it keeps all the wheels on the ground and it pulls very well.
It's light
P12's obselesence is why I have no qualms using the P12 ORCA II mod. Sure, if you max it out it is basically OP but if you configure it well, it's just a vanilla P12 with some realistic upgrades to bring it even with other trucks in game. In my opinion, this is the best part of modding - experimenting to find mods that fit well in the game without being OP
That mod is my regularly used truck now when I have to drag repetitive loads of cargo over long distances/poor terrain. Definitely OP, but so much fun to load up to the max.
I use the M916 all the time. Because of it's short wheelbase, it is a great truck to tow behind. So I use it like a self-propelled trailer.
Way to go you adapted that's how you play the game not whine about fixing everything
I would use something else lol
Haha that’s what I do! But with a heavily loaded scout vehicle with lots of fuel 😂
Smart 😂
freightliner is a great truck,VERY high amounts of power and a part speed freak.its one of my personal favourite trucks in game,excluding mod trucks
The Fleetstar kind of sucks until you put good offroad tires on it- then it's actually kind of good. I mean it's not going to plow through mud and never get stuck, but as long as you drive sensibly, it can tackle most situations. It's meant to be your most capable truck at the start of the game, and it does that job very well.
The freightliner at #6 is actually quite good, youre just using it wrong.
Put chained tires on it, and use it as a high saddle truck.
It has some of the highest torque in the game, and it's short wheelbase is good for maneuverability with the longer trailers. I see people use long wheel base trucks with long trailers, and they get stuck on turns all the time. Everyone gets that wrong, it's hilarious to watch.
Sometimes it is about the voyage and not the destination. With the released map DLCs of the Year 3-Pass I've found myself using all of the western-type trucks and scouts and having fun with them. These maps contain large areas where you can still use vehicles without superior abilities. So I can't agree with you on the "obsolete" part. Just hours ago I've used the ANK 38 with trailer to transport some supplies and metal beams to an oil pump building and the small amount of fuel carried in its tank made the trip even more interesting to me.
The Pacific P 12 was my favorite truck. I think it just needs bigger mud tires and a three slot flatbed
It could use better tires, but really with that wide raft of wheels in back it still does OK. I use the P12 almost exclusively as my large crane vehicle because its stability with the crane is pretty good.
Needs a stronger engine too
@@mathieuedde1465 you’re not wrong
It wouldn't hurt to give it some more oomph as well
OHD I tires are the best. What it needs is a Kenworth's engine
0:36 fun fact the letters "ЖУК" on the license plate stands for "Beetle" or "Bug" and letter Ж with other Russian letters that do not have similar outlines in the Latin alphabet are not used in Russian license plates (except for diplomatic ones)
I still like the P16, i use it for almost all tasks where you need a high saddle, or transport long logs.
Always take it over a Kolob. It's just much more fun in RWD
The horn alone makes it better than the competition
2:46 I find that the frieghtliner is best used as vehicle transport. It has excellent pulling power, and having the tapered heavy transport trailer hitch helps with maneuverability.
4:48 I still use the P12 as a medium log hauler simply because I have no dlcs. It still works pretty well as long as you aren't climbing a mountain, and its still awesome to drive lol
7:04 The P16 may have been outted by the boar and kenworth, but it still holds a place in my and many others hearts as the truck with the best horn
We don't use Fleetstar to perform better, we use Fleetstar because it's a tradition
Amen
My biggest issue with the P12 was that it felt very underpowered. I ran non-dual construction tires on it and even in low the truck would just freeze up in amything above moderate mud. It didn't offer enough power to keep going, and I often found myself winching it out of relatively easy conditions.
The P16, on the other hand, was a great truck. Sure it was only RWD, but it had full time Diff Lock and pulled like a locomotive. The problem with that, however, is the lack of options (if I remember correctly, there are no chained or studded tires for winter regions, and it can only be used as a tractor), and the horrendous turning radius. Because Diff lock is always on (meaning both the left and right wheels turn at the same speed) and not having power to the front wheels to help redirect the nose of the truck, even road bends were like 11-point turns.
Eventually, it just got to the point where I gave up and mained the Kodiak for cargo, the GMC MH9500 for low-saddle trailers or large (and somewhat accessible) orders (as I paired it with a 5-slot sideboard trailer and minicrane), and the 745C for logs. I still have the P16 and use it for longer logs, I just have to perform winch-assisted turns and try my best to stay near winch points.
All of this because I'm too stubborn to use anything else 😅
Lots of these vehicles are starting trucks, they doesn't have to be the best ones. And I think some variety is really good, not all vehicles have to be super offroaders.
But in end game, you only use offroaders trucks, especially in Seasons.
@@Yuribrgamer11 It depends on the map and player, I like to use Fleetstar in the North América maps, to make the experience a little bit harder.
@@pilot_xoan ok, but if you use "Op" vannila trucks, It is a little bit easier.
@@Yuribrgamer11 yeah, that's why we should have some vehicles with more capabilities than others.
Yeah "obsolete" isn't really the right term because they're incredibly useful when they're all you have at the start, like any starting equipment in any game with RPG/upgrade mechanics.
I enjoy using the CK 1500 because it feels nostalgic now to scout around in.
Thanks for your videos, they are really fun to watch, keep it up!
I wish the text went through some automatic grammar / spelling-checking software like grammarly or even deepl. A couple of unfortunate typos do not match the otherwise superbly executed video (footage, editing and the rest)!
Cheers!
In defense of the P12, it's a good Truck with a still decent addon selection for a heavy class, it comes with the base game, and is unlocked at a reasonably low level. I bought mine when I was starting out and still use it regularly
I m 0:04 in video and i give u instant like just because no BS straight to the point!Tnx nice video.
After driving it for a bit, I've actually found the Sprinter works quite well as a sort of 'Mega Scout'. It might not have an autonomous winch or a bunch of supplies, but set up properly it'll go quite a ways on its regular tank, and it's stable enough that you really have to do sonething stupid to roll it.
The Fleetstar is easily my "Jack of all trades, Master of none" truck. If I'm ever uncertain about what I'm going to need, its the truck I'll jump to. There are better trucks, yes, but the Fleetstar is a truck that will always get me there, if a tad slowly.
I recently gave the Freightliner another try, and honestly, it really surprised me. Excellent power, and thanks to its short length, its excellent for backing up trailers. Its a one trick pony, but as long as you keep its tanks filled, its a great heavy hauler that can do almost everything the bigger trucks can do.
The Tatra could very much use an autonomous winch, but using the base engine actually really improves its driveability. Its just too fast with its top engine imo.
I use the Sprinter in the same way. I also use it for those tasks where you have to visit several locations in a row. The Sprinter is fast and responsive, and very decent on all kind of terrain, so these tasks can be dealt with in a more enjoyable way.
I wanted to write my opinion too, but I just think so much as the way you did, that i rather give a like to you :D
Man You using the Navistar as reference for gameplay after this long really shows how awesome of a truck it is, its probably in my top 10 if im honest.
Buffed the P12 myself, added the Kenny's Wanderer engine and log lift to it, now it's basically the perfect fusion of both.
I don't agree that Fleetstar is obsolete. It's a legend, I still use it for car transportation from time to time. And used before for short logging. The devs remembered about it and gave the Fleetstar a mammoth skin paint. The legend lives!
Sure....I like using it occationally for challenge's sake but If It won't be my choice for somethings serous....It's balance is little off when upgraded....Also It has this tag of starter truck (same with chevy ck)...little buff in any catagory like addons, balance, tires or some unique feature would give it a new life IMO....Some vehicles in list are kind of nit-picking I feel.
@@SD1ONE I use almost all trucks in the game. Easier regions allow usage of obsolete trucks because you are fed up with OP ones.
The fleetstar is one of the few trucks that can run a flatdeck, crane, and still attach to trailers. that alone still makes it a stud in my eyes!
Agree on these! Turning to mods makes some of these better, thought....the modded Hulkster Fleetstar is pretty solid, if not a bit "tippy", and the Pacific Orca mod is probably my go-to truck now.
5:22 sorry, what? Nerf Kenny? 😂 Why should the devs nerf the Kenworth? It is well balanced. He's not OP and so a nerf would be a big mistake IMO 👎🏼
2:05 totally agree!
The Tatra 805 is so much fun due to its high power an light weight, but it's instable. It needs a auto-winch so it can mess with Actaeon and F750 as heavy scout/light supporter
In my eyes the utility addons for newer trucks make them superior over older, basically good trucks. I e.g. P512, ANK or AZOV 5519 would have fuel addon on their roof, they would be waay better in comparism to the new ones!
I am so glad that the twinsteer isn't in this list. I love that truck it is the flagship of my fleet it has been with me for my entire snowrunner career and it will stay with me for the rest of my career.
I realy love my P12 and P16. I wish they had a little more Powerful Engine (especially the P12) I think when P16 get able to install AWD he would be close to OP.
I agree about the Jeep, Freightliner M916A1 and Pacific. But WS 49X? I like it a lot. Bigger wheels than Wolf Pack trucks have, difflock, the only vehicle in the game with double wheels on the lift axle. Plus it's rather pretty (I just wish they add a newer 49X after a facelift).
I like the Fleetstar the way it is. Interesting video.
I love how you test the trucks, that have no specific mudtires with offroad tires, instead of chained tires, which have mud capabilities XD
Recently I have started tweaking a lot of truck for my own pleasure and focusing on matching specs with the real thing. I found sales brochures for Pacific trucks saying that they do offer 6x6 configurations for their line up not to mention *very* prominently state that they will customize the trucks to order so long as their Engineering department approved it. So when you add AWD and a low saddle to the P16 it's completely legit.
I do feel that some trucks like the Freightliner are actually bugged in terms of trailer fitment and that they are in need of patching.
Funny thing about a lot of obsolete trucks is that by the time I unlock the newer better trucks I still tend to keep driving the old ones because I can't be bothered to stop long enough to make the switch and refit the new truck at great cost as well.
Id like to add 1 huge pet peeve about the CK1500....how come even years later Saber Interactive has not noticed or changed the interior of the truck? No matter what paint you pick the interior is always deep blue... feels like such an oversight
fleetstar is still the goat, who doesnt use it
Most people, actually
I agree with all except the fleetstar, that truck will always hold a place in my fleet.
Honestly, never tought of the 805 as obsolete. I use it quite commonly, and the small size of the truck makes it a good scout especially if you want to naivgate straight through a heavily forested area. And if you like a truck just beacause, mods are good solution , wether you want a more realistic depiction of your favourite truck stats-wise or just to make it blatantly OP. Long story short - Tatra 805 -> a good lil trucc. Still needs a scout winch though…
I use it to ferry fuel. Its steering is terrible so it isn't particularly fun to drive, but otherwise it gets a refuel/repair job done fine.
The only good thing about the P12 (during the Michigan and Alaska maps) is having the maintenance add on. With that, it carries more stuff. As opposed to having a heavy duty crane on it, it's VERY unstable.
Can second that
I use the P12 for support and generally works great in that role
Even if a truck is stuck it does have enough leftover power to pull it out of a mud pit
Enjoyed this.
Never noticed the freightliner having problems with the sideboard trailer. Azov sprinter race truck 🚚 waste of time.
I 100% disagree with the 49X being on this list, from my experience both variants of it are excellent trucks and aren‘t in need of any changes. They have a nice fuel tank and are really decent at offroading, i even used both 49Xs in Amur extensively and they did an excellent job, as of now it‘s one of the few trucks that i took to every map
I agree, I enjoy the Western trucks, the 57x is probably the least useful
The P12 and P16 are from from obsolete when XML balanced in the way that DLC trucks are. It's a shame the developers hate them.
One truck in and I've already been personally wronged. I am still using the Fleetstar to this day, because it's great, and it can do anything I ask of it.
I agree with the Chevy, but I still use 2 of them because I don't use RU vehicles in NA, so the Chevy is the best NA at what it does.
Agree on the ANK. It's fun to drive, but I use other trucks way more.
Don is one of the few scouts I've simply never used or owned (mainly because there's no mission giving you a free one). I use other scouts and don't feel the need to get a Don.
Never used the Freightliner, but yes.
Yeah, I get why the Tatra 805 is on here. I like the unique service addon, and I use it as a mobile repair truck, but it's not my favorite. No fun to drive.
Haven't been to Tennessee yet, but I've heard the Sprinter is straight up useless.
I have no problem with the P12, and I use it all the time, usually as a heavy crane rig. However, I haven't gotten the new Kenworth yet, so that may very well be the successor.
Don't be hatin' on my Renegade. Among NA scouts, it's absolutely the best at worming its way ANYWHERE.
You ACTUALLY put the 49X on here? It has power out the ass, can take almost any addon, AND it has stellar fuel economy regardless. That thing is better than most other NA 6x6s.
I can kinda agree with the P16, but it's a special case. It's only designed to do one thing, and it does that in the game very well, better than a lot of trucks. It just sucks at literally everything else.
In glades you get an don 71 fore free.
It seems you have to play more of the game.
@@janstahl9589 Haven't gotten there yet. I'm just now finishing Amur.
@@MultiPurposeReviewer i see, well play some more and you will understand this list more.
@@janstahl9589 I've used 7/10 vehicles on this list though. I'm not exactly new to the game.
@@MultiPurposeReviewer if you only are at Amur. So well yes you are.
My biggest qualm with this game recently has been that it seems like most the American or Canadian trucks are weaker than a glass of water while all the Russia trucks are 8x8’s with two 24 valve engines, just something ridiculous. That paired with the fact that every map since the first three original maps and the kola map have all been 3 foot deep mud swamps that every vanilla truck struggles with, hell I’ve even had some mod trucks struggles in areas, it just seems like they add those areas to make it take more time convincing you that there is way more DLC than there actually is.
Damn you that fleetstar is the only one that gets me to complete missions, I’m so used to the thing I get everything else stuck besides it
You might be a newbie... If not then how many regions you completed so far specially DLC regions.
I still use Fleetstar to operate a generator. Put a fuel tank on it, attach a generator and winch it to the cargo creation zone.
I think, there should be Tuz 108 'Warthog' and Dan 96320.
I thought about Warthog but then I saw tatra 805, Dan is fine imo although lack of addons does make it less usable than others
But why? The warthog is the only none scout class truck with the battery winch, and the Dan is a really good truck imo
Yeah the Dan kicks butt ngl
The Dan isnt really outclassed by anything though. It has the strongest engine option while simultaneously being one of the only trucks that can haul stuff besides a heavy trailer
@@chancebales1594 No, Actaeon has autonomous winch.
Ngl i love the p16 too even if there are better trucks to use, its just like a feeling of "it good but not unstopable" and its make the gameplay more fun to play
agreed man, that's why I said in video that it need no changes...objectively it makes no sense to use it but the feel of it is good and authentic.
the P16 foldable log trailer would be an epic addition
Fleetstar is a great all around truck through the entirety or the game except Amur. I use it consistently.
Totally agree on Silverado, you can sell it and buy the IH Pickup and its a straight upgrade in every single way.
Ank is easily one of my favorite trucks, put a fuel trailer on it, amd its tires, and you have an unstoppable truck that can haul anything.
Don71 I totally agree, bought it once at launch and have never used it again.
The Freightliner is another truck I use all the time, it's an awesome truck for big trailers and if I don't need the P16, it's my go to for mission trailers.
Tatra 805, I agree, looks cool, outclassed by literally all the other small medium trucks.
Sprinter, I agree, it's pretty useless, but I don't think it should be included simply because it's not ever meant to be used for work.
P12, I agree to a point, the Kenny is a straight upgrade bit the P12 is am excellent truck for hauling 2 sets of medium logs anywhere.
CJ7 Agreed, looks great, falls below almost everything in utility.
49X Hard disagree, might br my most used truck, will haul anything, and only annoyance is tag axle, but it's fast, tough, strong and looks great.
P16 How dare you slander the greatest piece of machinery in the game.
Bonus: No folding log carts is a sin.
It's more important to release new additions and new games than to improve what is already there. They will never fix it.
I love yours videos Bro, greetings from Chile! 🎉
These obsolete trucks are still good in the Belozersk Glades region, where it has the most tarmac roads in every region in SnowRunner.
I mostly agree, but I quite like the military ANK. Yes it’s thirsty but sometimes a mudtire-equipped compact bed truck is what you need. And I only play region-correct trucks so little other options in North America.
This addon is gonna be awesome, i liked it from the first time i saw it on the burlag!
Tayga is my main offroad, but I use ANK38 for challenge, speed and when fuel isn't an issue. I like its unique tires (not mudtires)
Don loses its stability altogether on max suspension upgrade, personally I loved using it, the little man carried me through scouting so many maps by squeezing through trees and carving its own trails, it may not be the best, but it certainly desserves a spot in everyones hearts.
Edit: I just noticed, Dude why is the 805 on this list?! That shit is my go-to scout truck ever since it dropped! Being the size of the loaf and having medium-heavy truck offroad/mud tires makes it so objectively good! I have the croc and the new small zikz, and I still stand firmly by the tatra in comparisson to them both.
P16's tires keeps the truck playable.
Those things can literally help you crawl in deep mud even if its a slow crawl 😂.
Also, I still use Fleetstar as my recovery truck. That thing has been helped us since the start, so it will stay with me till the end.
Not the highway GMC though, that thing is absurdly unstable 🤣
Trucks that didn't become obsolete with Kenny would be a shorter list. ;)
great video!
It's unfortunate that my favorite truck, the Fleetstar, becomes obsolete directly after the map it was introduced om
The Fleetstar has such a great look.
It does not. You can use it anywhere.
I heartily disagree on the Fleetstar. It's the little truck that still can and always will surprise you.
From all mentioned I personaly would not agree on Tatra. I use it extensively as refueling truck and time to time as scout alongside Crocodile and Bandit. Other than that - I can agree with your list.
I hope they give the 916a1 a do over. I drove that for years. It doesn’t have that wench system in the back. It only has a tool storage in the back and it’s not really big. The fuel tank can hold 100 gallons.
The P-16 is only bad because nobody uses it correctly, meant for hauling wood on dirt roads, no problem!
If you need chains and want to haul and tow med logs at the same time, the P12 works great.
I’m still early game ( working on last 3 maps of Michigan simulataneously )
Here’s my kit
Kolob - go anywhere do anything mobile
Azov - really good on solo missions
2 x fleetstars - cheap AF , use it as a mobile fuel and service depot for Kolob / other trucks that pass by + as scout support
Chevy with the big engine - best scout so far ( if it can get some consistent fuel supply )
Tried Ank , paystar , etc - found em to be to tippy
man, most of these vehicles were hyped when snowrunner was announced. its a shame they get put out by better vehicles, but I still prefer to use base game vehicles because its more of a challenge.
I just love both Pacifics, so old school
Tbh the Sprinter back addon should really have more utility, it even has cutouts for two soare tires but no spares??
I use P16 because im a die hard fan. It doesnt even matter if it sucks. I just like it so I use it.
I still use fleetstar as fuel/repair point supplier.
Van body + fuel trailer - to support working truck.
I use the white wester in almost every mission. To me it's one of the best trucks but that's my opinion.
The Kenworth is what the P12 should've been, 71" tires look great on it and it could really use all the addons and more power.
Should be titled "Obsolete if you have all the DLC."
i would have used the CK1500 a lot more if the engine sfx didn’t sound so bad. i hate hearing it recycling the power, like the Western Star 47x NF 1424. It’s not as bad. But they both have that looping effect that i hate.
Yes fair observation, But p16 is in it's own class and needs to be recognised as the best pacific truck in the game!
Imo the p512 is better
Its very good too. But the small fuel tank has bit be more than once. It's so fast though, especially with the highway gearbox!
@TheRealKensai86 ok yeah the fuel tank is wack for its size, but otherwise I prefer the p512, faster and same tires, no full-time diff lock is not as good
Ah yes i forgot about that!
I used the fleetstar in Imandra 💀
I'm a masochist what can I say 🤷♂️
UOD wheels are inferior to mud tires but they have way better rims options so i prefere these for more estetic reason. they could give uod wheels + size option to give them some sort of adventage over mud wheels or at least give mud wheels similar rim options.
M916 is by far my favorite truck. I use it as a scout cause all the scouts are usless and as a towtruck.
Trucks are never ever obsolete so long as they can carry a crane, fuel or repairs in the forms of bed attachments or trailers. I always set up mobile repair stations along the paved roads with vehicles like these especially for maps with no garages or maps that have garages very far from the tunnels
I've played over 1400 hrs and every available DLC you can buy. I will say there are a bunch of obsolete trucks.
But for this I'll stick my neck. The fleetstar is a beast when setup right that little starter truck still surprises me.
Once you learn high and low gear this truck equiped with highway transmission. Not bad.
The Tayga trucks are some my top trucks far from obsolete
The rest I can agree are obsolete now
Just load me in my Fleetstar and drive me off the nearest cliff. I’m probably obsolete too.
Thing about the p12 compared to the kenworth is that the p12 could still be used as a heavy support truck with either a fuel tanker or the maintenance addon
I think ken also has an extended fuel tank and extended maintenance addon...only addon that P12 has and ken hasn't is the one I showed in thumbnail which is not even released yet
@@SD1ONE aye it’s got the small and extended tanker addon, if you’re using the Kenny for transporting cargo and don’t want to get rid of the p12 I reckon it still has a chance rather than being liquidated for a bit of cash
I still love the old P16. But mostly because I#m a hardcore player and thusly extremly frugil, wich means that I generally don't take trucks that aren't free.So I'm dragging it along for the good old logging hauls.
I use "Real Life mod" which adds a bunch of stuff to the game and the vehicles, especially many different types of tires and upgrades, so old vehicles would still be useful now
I have mods that improve the P16 and the Freightliner and they're some of the best trucks I have. The Freightliner is ultra powerful and I use it for 5th Wheel attachments exclusively. The P16 is given double tires on the whole thing and can use AWD on it. These are only mods though. I imagine these aren't very good trucks for their respective classes.
The only trucks that can do it all are basically the 2 ZiSK’s. I wish we had licensed trucks that could do what they can. That's why we got mods
I still use the fleetsstar, it’s a good logging truck if you ask me
If just for pure how good its look like DON 71 for me is still one of my fav. Need buff for sure
Fleetstar is still a good truck for easier regions. You didn't show it perform in mud with offroad tires and of course it's going to tip over on huge cliffs and in tight river beds.
Almost all scouts are obsolete, anyway. Besides, the Sentinel is a lot easier to tip over than the CK1500.
Anks are fine, although they are only for short trips.
UOD II and OHD I have the same stats. Check Maprunner.
P12 is also good enough and it fits logging nicely. Nerf Kenworth?! Are you serious?
49X is just like the Fleetstar. Use it in less difficult maps and it'll do just fine.
Same stats for terrain, OHDs weigh more so they have far better traction. The Boar released with UOD only, and got stuck on dry grass, they updated it to OHD and it was 100 times better. That chart with stats is an ok guide to start.
@@frumsmcnoodles323, I don't know about the weight, but what you say could be true. Even so, saying that OHD I are far and 100 times better than UOD II is a big stretch. The difference between them is minimal. For example, the Paystar is equipped with OHD I, but it performs roughly the same as the White Western Star, which is equipped with UOD II. No offence regarding the Boar, but it is still bad for such a big truck. OHD tires don't make it 100 better. Be serious. A far better tire than the UOD II for mud would be the MHS II or the TMHS. Even if the weight aspect is true, the OHD I is marginally any better than the UOD II and the difference in performance most likely comes from the truck itself and the terrain they are driven on. By the way, in the Western Star section of the video, did you notice the trucks weren't tested on the same mud? The 49X was ran on a mud that was already driven in at least once before. That made the difference in that test, not the tires.
In my opinion, Don, 805, Sprinter, P12 and Renegade were obsolete on arrival. The only reason to use any of them, for me, is just because. Because I'm stubborn in every truck getting a turn.
Same here but after giving multiple chances to DON, 805 and sprinter...I still don't enjoy using them, so I stop using them...Renegade & P12 are still enjoyable but yeah those new vehicles are making it difficult for me to keep using them.
@@SD1ONE Yep, that's fair. And honestly, Sprinter is the most pointless vehicle in the entire game. XD
@@SchazmenRassir whole racing DLC was pointless, At first I thought they're trying something new but NO...it was sort of a passive add for their Dakar rally game.
The fact thay the P12 still doesn't have any beds is criminal
The P-16 cant have AWD because the irl truck didn't have it ;-; its still a good boi
P16 will never be obsolote with its HOOONK!
did you forgot TUZ 108 "Warthog", that thing can only haul stuff in gooseneck semi-trailer or you would face turning and wheelies.
Yeah, Warthog was on my radar but then I saw that tatra 4x4.
@@SD1ONE The Tatra is better
Appropriate throttle means a lot off road. My CK 1500 has been everywhere, just stay away from the thin ice
I totally disagree with all of this. None of those trucks become obsolete. I use all of them a lot. I would even say that most of these vehicles are more fun to drive than many others in the game. Like the Kolobs. I almost never use the Kolobs as they just are not that fun to me. The Fleetstar and the P16 are among my favourite trucks in the game and are very useful through all stages of the game.
very few people think that way man....you see the mod charts where OP mods are always on top...that tells you something about most players.
@@SD1ONE You are probably right. And I think that is sad. I feel like people are ruining the game experience for themselves without realizing it. However, that said, what is most popular on the mod charts is not necessarily indicative of what most players like. Depends how many players play with mods in the first place and how many mods people use. In my 1800hrs of play time I have only tried a couple custom maps out and that is it.
@@Vimpmeat I agree
Honeslty respect to your opinions, but in this case, idk if they're "obsolete" trucks, just not op meta trucks like the mastodon or any other easy mode trucks
I modded most trucks in this game simply to give them better feeling of weight, so they don't have any wheelspin on freaking asphalt...