Bob Dylan is 82. Paul McCartney is 81. Neil Young is 78. Paul Simon is 82. I'm so glad they've lived and written and recorded. But soon, "I think I'm gonna be sad, I think it's today, yeah".
Dude, I don't wanna think about it - Bob's been the soundtrack to my life since I first heard 'A Hard Rain's A-Gonna Fall' back in Grade 8. The 20th century's greatest poet, we're lucky as hell to have shared our time on the planet with him.
The greatest put down song of all time…….. “I wish for just one time you could stand inside my shoes, you’d know what a drag it is to see you”…..Jesus!!! What a great put down line…it’s the second best of all time!!!!!!
I forgot to add…the best put down line ever was by Winston Churchill. At a quite prestigious function, a lady came up to him , looked at him in a disgusted fashion and pointed the finger saying “Mr. Churchill, you are drunk!!!!” Churchill just looked at her smirking and replied “…and,… Madame,… you are ugly……. but in the morning I shall be sober!!!!” 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@@davidthrower1553 The lady in question was Nancy lady Astor, Britain's first female MP. Another of her classics was "Winston if you were my husband I'd put poison in your coffee" to which he replied "Nancy if I was your husband I'd drink it gladly" 😂.
4th Street is in the middle of NYC’s Greenwich Village neighborhood which was the location of many of the folk music clubs in the 50’s and 60’s. So, I think this song is written more about that scene and the people involved in it and their reaction to Dylan’s music going “electric” more than it is about one particular person. But, that’s just me.
Dylan lived on 161 West 4th Street for a while. Very close to Jones Street, where the famous cover photograph of The Freewheelin' Bob Dylan (Bob with Suze Rotolo) was taken.
It seems more to me like it is about a particular person, but could apply to many gladhanding fair weather 'friends', just as Barracuda by Heart is about a particular person but could be about quite a few in the music industry,
The 1960's Folk Music Critics and Clubs were located around 4th Street, Greenwich Village NY. Dylan frequently wrote songs in the form of "Love Songs", (in this case as a "Break-Up Song"), and Dylan's "4th Street" seems to be about an unfaithful Lover or Friend. It's also exploring ALL human betrayal. But Dylan is specifically targeting the Folk Music Fans and Critics that turned against him for going electric. These people called Dylan a Hero/Savior while he was writing and performing acoustic Folk Music. But going electric, they called him "Judas". Dylan had every right to be angry, and the song's last line is STONE COLD.
You definitely need to react to "Like A Rolling Stone", as this was not only his foray into the electric sphere, but altered the course of popular music, even leading the Beatles to compose songs of deeper themes than their earlier hits. However, his acoustic "It's Alright Ma, I'm Only Bleeding" highlights his lyrical and thought-provoking genius as well.
@@L33Reacts I agree with Carlos Herrera below. Positively 4th St. is actually very similar to Like a Rolling Stone, but is crueler, funnier and catchier
Oh, I sure hope he does IT'S ALRIGHT MA (I'M ONLY BLEEDING)!!! One of my very favorite of his songs, along with CHIMES OF FREEDOM and MR. TAMBOURINE MAN.
The original US single has the session players printed on the label: Bobby Greg-Drums, Michael Bloomfield-Guitar, Harvy Brooks-Bass, Paul Griffin-Piano, and Al Kooper- Organ. Released in the US on September 7, 1965.
I’ve met Bob several times and although I love his music he’s incredibly cold and distant. His friends will admit that it’s impossible to really know him because he just won’t let anybody get close to him. In 1986, Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers toured with Bob as his backing band. I got to know Tom a little bit and when I asked him about Bob’s attitude he laughed and said “that’s just how he is and he barely even talks to me” I guess non of that really matters because Bob is an absolute genius and he doesn’t owe anybody anything. 🕊❤️🎼
Bob himself has said he’s basically a shy person. Having such a spotlight on yourself from a young age can’t be easy, especially if you’d rather just be alone or live a quiet life. Then there is the fact that when you’re famous someone always wants to be your “friend”, and not everyone has good intentions. Bob just might find that it’s easier to not talk to people sometimes. One of the reasons that Bob has been able to write such incredible songs (mostly about life and people) is because he’s an observer. You have to pay attention to what’s going on in the world and to the actions of people. I wish I could remember the famous person who said it, but the quote was: “I’ve never learned anything when I was talking”.
Bob has had the same best friend since childhood. Bob and his brother are very close. You should watch the YT interviews of people who have worked with Dylan over the years.
When you go from a teen obscurity to the greatest musician in the world in a few short years and basically all your professional dreams are fulfilled, everyone's either telling you that you're a genius and a prophet and the greatest thing era or a sellout and a phony and a passing fad, when people you thought were your friends turn their backs on you, when others use you and flatter you but don't mean it, and you're a basically introverted and shy person caught up in the craziest decade in modern music history, yeah, that's going to do a number on you no matter what. Band members had each other to turn to. Dylan had only himself. Sure, he had backup bandmates, but none knew what it was like to be him. Only the Beatles, Elvis, Rolling Stones, Sinatra and a handful of other greats knew what it was like to be them, and all became kind of messed up one way or another.
Visions of Johanna is great, from the Blonde on Blonde album. You have so much Dylan to hear for the first time, I am envious. It might be good to sample a few songs from his albums in more or less chronological order to see how his music evolves. There are a number of bends in the road.
I never knew who he was writing this about, some say Joan Baez, but talk about poetically taking someone down viciously. I have not heard the song in a while but you can never forget the line -" I wish that for just one time, you could stand inside my shoes, you would know what a drag it is to see you". Damn
Agreed… You think Dylan is setting the listener up for the old line, "Walk a mile in my shoes to see how it feels to be me" but he switches it up with cutting humor by saying "you'd know what a drag it is to see you." 😀
Dylan at 82 is currently tour for his latest LP "Rough and Rowdy Ways" Timothee Chalamet is playing Dylan in the up coming film "A Complete Unknown" based on the period of time when Dylan went electric and the folk music community lost it, actually booing him at concerts when he came on stage with his band and electric guitar. Chalamet is nailing it as a young Dylan, you can see clips of the film on UA-cam. Dylan is named as one of the co-producers. He is also a brilliant painter and creating metal/iron sculpture. A true artist. Check out "Like A Rolling Stone"
Song about Izzy Young the guy who ran The Folklore Center where Dylan hung out when he first got to New York. Everybody wanted to claim that they discovered Dylan.
The "going electric" negative response was less about the "electric" and more about the CONTENT of his new songs at the time. Dylan was embraced by the folk community in the early 60's because he was writing songs with a distinctly political and social edge - attacking racism, political hypocrisy, etc. - and yes, those songs were primarily acoustic, but it was the fact that he was doing what they were doing that made them embrace him. He was an absolute savior to the folk community, as it made folk go more mainstream and made the ISSUES they talked about go mainstream as well. What some in the folk movement hated about his NEW songs was that they were PERSONAL songs, often surreal, etc. and that he'd abandoned the kinds of songs he had been writing (like "The Lonesome Death of Hattie Carroll", etc.) for a more personal songwriting ("Like a Rolling Stone", etc.). The folk movement didn't like the new electric rock/pop music at the time, because most of it was doing nothing to further the "movement" - political/social, etc. - that was so important to so many people in the 60's - and Dylan joining that pop/rock world and no longer writing songs that helped that movement - THAT's what they were really pissed off about. In other words, it was less that he started using electric guitars and a band than the fact that the new songs were just no longer part of that folk movement, as many saw him as a political/social hero when he started with that - so they saw him as "SELLING OUT", basically - which he wasn't, of course, as his own style of personal pop/rock was a revolution in itself, as nobody in the pop/rock world was doing what he was doing *there*, either - and just like he did in the folk movement, influencing folk songwriters, what he then did in the pop/rock world influenced that genre, as well. But yeah, it wasn't the guitars - it was the change in content that caused the uproar. In many ways, the Beatles got the same reaction when they shifted from the early, innocent songs to more adult themes and more experimental stuff. If we're being honest, it's mainly because Dylan and the Beatles just started smoking a lot of weed - and that tends to lead to more personal writing.
There was a period when it seemed everything Dylan wrote was like another chapter in an increasingly complex and kaleidoscopic lesson about human nature. Things got slightly patchier after his motorbike accident but, despite the ups and downs, the level of his insight and his songwriting ability has had many resurgences right up to the present day.
One thing ive always found interesting with Dylan's lyrics and the way he delivers them is that sometimes you cannot really understand what he's saying...kind of like Mick Jagger"s singing... when you see the printed lyrics they are somewhat different than what you thought they were. It's like a former friend of mine that really liked Bob Dylan's song "Lady Elaine." I never had the heart to tell him that it was "Lay, Lady Lay."
It was a message to all his fans who hated him for going electric. He was even getting death threats. He just wanted to reach more people and to get away from the people who loved him for his protest song. Dylan also wrote some beautiful love songs which were hits, "If Not For You", "Lay, Lady, Lay" and "Love Minus Zero----No Limit" are three of them. "Sad Eyed Lady of the Lowlands" you already know.
'Glad you're exploring Dylan, Lee. For me: Don't Think Twice it's Alright. If You See Her. It's Not Dark Yet. But i'm a pretty melancholy cat. Thanks -
Idiot Wind is Dylan's real knock-out take down lyric (my opinion), Blood on the Tracks album, a favorite. He's honest enough to say it out loud then comes full circle at the end with a look at himself. Genius
Yes, "Idiot Wind" 1974 is Dylan's other most brutal put-down song. Mostly aimed at Writers who were speculating about Dylan's private life. But as you said, Idiot Wind has a touch of honesty/(maturity) at the end. He sings "Your an Idiot Babe, it's a wonder you still know how to breath.", but by the end, he sings "We're Idiots Babe, it's a wonder we can even feed ourselves." Since Dylan's marriage was failing, he was most likely venting his anger at his wife, and at all the gossip mongers, but Dylan was also honest enough acknowledging his own failures as a partner.
Hi Lee. Bob Dylan’s songs are revered. His lyrics are awesome and so many have covered his tunes. Jimi Hendrix loved Bob Dylan’s ‘All Along the Watchtower’ which you may have heard. Back to Dylan, please listen to ‘Subterranean Homesick Blues’. That one is my personal favorite. To me it’s like a folk singer/poet doing a rap song. It’s really cool. Great channel. Cheers!
Love Dylan, no wonder he won the special 2016 Pulitzer Prize for lifetime songwriting. You need to get the lyrics when reacting to Dylan. My favorite of all his songs is Don't Think Twice. IMO the definitive song about a romantic breakup and it applies to both the male or female POV. Do the studio official version if you listen to it. Damn migraines, I feel you.
It's not about Ochs. Phil Ochs was one of the few folk singers who supported Dylan when he went electric. He himself would experiment with other music genres in his later albums. Dylan and Ochs's friendship took a bad turn about 6 months after this song was written. Ochs had said that Can You Please Crawl Out Your Window was a bad song, so Dylan called him a journalist and threw him out of the limo they were in. A few years later, they reconciled and Dylan performed at the benefit for Allende, organised by Ochs. When Ochs took his life, Dylan locked himself in his room for a week. Anyway, Izzy Young thinks the song is about him, he's probably right imo.
"You got a lotta nerve to say you are my friend" is an opening line I have used & meant it. Great Dylan indeed. Lee please try "Like A Rolling Stone" or "Queen Jane approximately"
To really capture Dylan’s electric controversy you should go to his live performances with The Band (Hawks) from 1966. “Like A Rolling Stone" from Royal Albert Hall in London is a great place to start. Also the version from Free Trade Hall in Manchester England. Angry crowds and a defiant Dylan changing the course of music history.
He did and it is quite enjoyable listening to him push back in his Dylanesque way. No one in his right mind but, a true artist would completely push back on the very recent fame he achieved against the very audience who gave it to him.
Back in the 2000s, John Sebastian of The Lovin' Spoonful was interviewed for an excellent documentary called John Lennon's Jukebox (which included Positively 4th Street). His commentary was that Dylan wrote his early protest and social commentary songs as a self-appointed truth sayer, with the attitude that everything you say is wrong and his job was to tell you why. Sebastian then said that Dylan applied that same attitude towards writing love songs (I think Don't Think Twice It's All Right is a good example of that). Sebastian then speculated that Joan Baez might have been the target of Positively 4th Street.She and Dylan had been together for a couple of years, and then suddenly broke up in the middle of the Don't Look Back tour in 1965 - the speculation is that he wanted to get away from protest and social commentary, while she wanted him to continue. You can take that interpretation with as many grains of salt as you wish.
I don't know how much o' Blonde On Blonde you've listened to yet apart from Sad Eyed Lady O' The Lowlands but It's my go to Dylan album (except for the first track which I've tried for decades to enjoy but no such luck.) Me thinks you gonna like most o' dem songs then. A lot.
Supposedly this song is about Izzy Young, who ran the Folklore Center in Greenwich Village. He and many other folk artists were disappointed that Dylan had gone electric. As the tale goes, Pete Seeger once threatened to cut the cable with an axe.
Keep going!! As to his “troubled youth” lol, he had a fine youth. He lied about running away! 😅 It’s all part of the Dylan Show!! See Scorsese’s documentary about him. Also I’m Not There where they have many actors (male and female!) try to portray his many projections….they all are him while simultaneously NONE are him! And that’s the point! But at this point one of our greatest filmmakers had dedicated himself to at least 3 projects to Dylan or his orbit: No Direction Home, the Rolling Thunder Revue, the Last Waltz about the last show of his backing group The Band where he closes the show!! Try WHITE HEAT from Lou Reed!!! About heroin. Produced by Bowie
I kind of doubt that he's talking about a specific person - but rather a specific TYPE of person - i.e. all those who spoke against him when he was living in Greenwich Village - an amalgamation of a thousand naysayers. Please do CHIMES OF FREEDOM (The Byrds version is best) and IT'S ALRIGHT MA (I'M ONLY BLEEDING) and MASTERS OF WAR.
Some songs can not be absorbed on only one listen. You address the sound and the feel of the tune, but said *nothing* about the lyrics? Okay, on your second pass you'll get more of the harsh sentiments he expresses, so directly, for those who boosted him in one phase then put him down in the next. The "loss of faith," I guess, ran in *both* directions.
Another artist you should check out is Nick Gilder. You probably never heard of him. His big hits were “Hot Child in the City” & “Here Comes the Night” from the late 70s.
(SCROLL DOWN FOR RECOMMENDATIONS.) I'm surprised you didn't identify more with the lyrics given what you've been through, @L33Reacts, but you do have a headache! This is the best kiss-off song to fair-weather friends ever written. (Dylan's youth wasn't what he made it out to be. He made up his name and his life, which is actually cool. He was a frat boy at a local college!) While it's true that Dylan had a specific rock sound in '65-'66, he embraced a new sound and a new band set-up with every album, and that's true to this day. So there is no one "electric" sound. Here are some songs that show the variety: > 𝐆𝐨𝐭𝐭𝐚 𝐒𝐞𝐫𝐯𝐞 𝐒𝐨𝐦𝐞𝐛𝐨𝐝𝐲 (𝐛𝐚𝐜𝐤𝐞𝐝 𝐛𝐲 𝐁𝐨𝐨𝐤𝐞𝐫 𝐓 𝐚𝐧𝐝 𝐭𝐡𝐞 𝐌𝐆𝐬; 𝐃𝐨𝐧𝐚𝐥𝐝 "𝐃𝐮𝐜𝐤" 𝐃𝐮𝐧𝐧 𝐨𝐧 𝐝𝐫𝐮𝐦𝐬) > 𝐊𝐧𝐨𝐜𝐤𝐢𝐧' 𝐎𝐧 𝐇𝐞𝐚𝐯𝐞𝐧'𝐬 𝐃𝐨𝐨𝐫 (𝐛𝐚𝐜𝐤𝐞𝐝 𝐛𝐲 𝐑𝐨𝐠𝐞𝐫 𝐌𝐜𝐆𝐮𝐢𝐧𝐧, 𝐉𝐢𝐦 𝐊𝐞𝐥𝐭𝐧𝐞𝐫 𝐨𝐧 𝐝𝐫𝐮𝐦𝐬) > 𝐌𝐚𝐧 𝐢𝐧 𝐭𝐡𝐞 𝐋𝐨𝐧𝐠 𝐁𝐥𝐚𝐜𝐤 𝐂𝐨𝐚𝐭 (𝐃𝐚𝐧𝐢𝐞𝐥 𝐋𝐚𝐧𝐨𝐢𝐬 𝐨𝐧 𝐝𝐨𝐛𝐫𝐨, 𝐌𝐚𝐥𝐜𝐨𝐥𝐦 𝐁𝐮𝐫𝐧 𝐨𝐧 𝐤𝐞𝐲𝐛𝐨𝐚𝐫𝐝𝐬 -- 𝐢𝐧𝐜𝐥𝐮𝐝𝐢𝐧𝐠 𝐜𝐫𝐢𝐜𝐤𝐞𝐭𝐬 -- 𝐚𝐧𝐝 𝐧𝐨 𝐝𝐫𝐮𝐦𝐬 𝐨𝐫 𝐩𝐞𝐫𝐜𝐮𝐬𝐬𝐢𝐨𝐧) > 𝐇𝐮𝐫𝐫𝐢𝐜𝐚𝐧𝐞 (𝐕𝐢𝐧𝐧𝐢𝐞 𝐁𝐞𝐥𝐥 𝐨𝐧 𝟏𝟐-𝐬𝐭𝐫𝐢𝐧𝐠 𝐠𝐮𝐢𝐭𝐚𝐫, 𝐩𝐨𝐰𝐞𝐫𝐟𝐮𝐥 𝐝𝐫𝐮𝐦𝐬 𝐚𝐧𝐝 𝐩𝐞𝐫𝐜𝐮𝐬𝐬𝐢𝐨𝐧 𝐟𝐫𝐨𝐦 𝐇𝐨𝐰𝐢𝐞 𝐖𝐲𝐞𝐭𝐡 𝐚𝐧𝐝 𝐋𝐮𝐭𝐡𝐞𝐫 𝐑𝐢𝐱, 𝐚𝐧𝐝 𝐯𝐢𝐨𝐥𝐢𝐧 𝐨𝐟 𝐒𝐜𝐚𝐫𝐥𝐞𝐭 𝐑𝐢𝐯𝐞𝐫𝐚) > 𝗚𝗼𝘁𝘁𝗮 𝗦𝗲𝗿𝘃𝗲 𝗦𝗼𝗺𝗲𝗯𝗼𝗱𝘆 (𝗯𝗮𝗰𝗸𝗲𝗱 𝗯𝘆 𝗕𝗼𝗼𝗸𝗲𝗿 𝗧 𝗮𝗻𝗱 𝘁𝗵𝗲 𝗠𝗚𝘀; 𝗗𝗼𝗻𝗮𝗹𝗱 "𝗗𝘂𝗰𝗸" 𝗗𝘂𝗻𝗻 𝗼𝗻 𝗱𝗿𝘂𝗺𝘀) > 𝗞𝗻𝗼𝗰𝗸𝗶𝗻' 𝗢𝗻 𝗛𝗲𝗮𝘃𝗲𝗻'𝘀 𝗗𝗼𝗼𝗿 (𝗯𝗮𝗰𝗸𝗲𝗱 𝗯𝘆 𝗥𝗼𝗴𝗲𝗿 𝗠𝗰𝗚𝘂𝗶𝗻𝗻, 𝗝𝗶𝗺 𝗞𝗲𝗹𝘁𝗻𝗲𝗿 𝗼𝗻 𝗱𝗿𝘂𝗺𝘀) > 𝗠𝗮𝗻 𝗶𝗻 𝘁𝗵𝗲 𝗟𝗼𝗻𝗴 𝗕𝗹𝗮𝗰𝗸 𝗖𝗼𝗮𝘁 (𝗗𝗮𝗻𝗶𝗲𝗹 𝗟𝗮𝗻𝗼𝗶𝘀 𝗼𝗻 𝗱𝗼𝗯𝗿𝗼, 𝗠𝗮𝗹𝗰𝗼𝗹𝗺 𝗕𝘂𝗿𝗻 𝗼𝗻 𝗸𝗲𝘆𝗯𝗼𝗮𝗿𝗱𝘀 -- 𝗶𝗻𝗰𝗹𝘂𝗱𝗶𝗻𝗴 𝗰𝗿𝗶𝗰𝗸𝗲𝘁𝘀 -- 𝗮𝗻𝗱 𝗻𝗼 𝗱𝗿𝘂𝗺𝘀 𝗼𝗿 𝗽𝗲𝗿𝗰𝘂𝘀𝘀𝗶𝗼𝗻) > 𝗛𝘂𝗿𝗿𝗶𝗰𝗮𝗻𝗲 (𝗩𝗶𝗻𝗻𝗶𝗲 𝗕𝗲𝗹𝗹 𝗼𝗻 𝟭𝟮-𝘀𝘁𝗿𝗶𝗻𝗴 𝗴𝘂𝗶𝘁𝗮𝗿, 𝗽𝗼𝘄𝗲𝗿𝗳𝘂𝗹 𝗱𝗿𝘂𝗺𝘀 𝗮𝗻𝗱 𝗽𝗲𝗿𝗰𝘂𝘀𝘀𝗶𝗼𝗻 𝗳𝗿𝗼𝗺 𝗛𝗼𝘄𝗶𝗲 𝗪𝘆𝗲𝘁𝗵 𝗮𝗻𝗱 𝗟𝘂𝘁𝗵𝗲𝗿 𝗥𝗶𝘅, 𝗮𝗻𝗱 𝘃𝗶𝗼𝗹𝗶𝗻 𝗼𝗳 𝗦𝗰𝗮𝗿𝗹𝗲𝘁 𝗥𝗶𝘃𝗲𝗿𝗮) #L33reacts 𝖔 > Gotta Serve Somebody (backed by Booker T and the MGs; Donald "Duck" Dunn on drums) > Knockin' On Heaven's Door (backed by Roger McGuinn, Jim Keltner on drums) > Man in the Long Black Coat (Daniel Lanois on dobro, Malcolm Burn on keyboards -- including crickets -- and no drums or percussion) > Hurricane (Vinnie Bell on 12-string guitar, powerful drums and percussion from Howie Wyeth and Luther Rix, and violin of Scarlet Rivera)
"I wish just once you could stand in my shoes. Then you'd know what a drag it is to see you!"
God, what a great line.
top tier
Maybe the greatest
Bob Dylan is 82. Paul McCartney is 81. Neil Young is 78. Paul Simon is 82. I'm so glad they've lived and written and recorded. But soon, "I think I'm gonna be sad, I think it's today, yeah".
This album came out. And the world turned. Still inspiring listeners 60 years later. ✌️❤️🎶
Bob Dylan is 82. I will be gutted when he passes.
At the very least I'm glad to have discovered someone from this era, who is still here. But sadly I will be devastated also now. 😢
Dude, I don't wanna think about it - Bob's been the soundtrack to my life since I first heard 'A Hard Rain's A-Gonna Fall' back in Grade 8. The 20th century's greatest poet, we're lucky as hell to have shared our time on the planet with him.
4th Street is also in Minneapolis, running through Dinkytown at the University of MN where he used to gig in clubs before he headed to NYC.
Oops, I meant this as a reply to the comment below, about Greenwich Village.
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right in your face no hidden meanings ... Mr Noble Prize for Literature is a one off, unique, irreplaceable the likes of whom we will never see again.
The greatest put down song of all time…….. “I wish for just one time you could stand inside my shoes, you’d know what a drag it is to see you”…..Jesus!!! What a great put down line…it’s the second best of all time!!!!!!
I forgot to add…the best put down line ever was by Winston Churchill. At a quite prestigious function, a lady came up to him , looked at him in a disgusted fashion and pointed the finger saying “Mr. Churchill, you are drunk!!!!” Churchill just looked at her smirking and replied “…and,… Madame,… you are ugly……. but in the morning I shall be sober!!!!” 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@@davidthrower1553 The lady in question was Nancy lady Astor, Britain's first female MP. Another of her classics was "Winston if you were my husband I'd put poison in your coffee" to which he replied "Nancy if I was your husband I'd drink it gladly" 😂.
4th Street is in the middle of NYC’s Greenwich Village neighborhood which was the location of many of the folk music clubs in the 50’s and 60’s.
So, I think this song is written more about that scene and the people involved in it and their reaction to Dylan’s music going “electric” more than it is about one particular person.
But, that’s just me.
I agree with you
Dylan lived on 161 West 4th Street for a while. Very close to Jones Street, where the famous cover photograph of The Freewheelin' Bob Dylan (Bob with Suze Rotolo) was taken.
That's just me, too!
It seems more to me like it is about a particular person, but could apply to many gladhanding fair weather 'friends', just as Barracuda by Heart is about a particular person but could be about quite a few in the music industry,
I always thought it was 4th street in Dinkytown, Minneapolis' Greenwich Village just off the U's Campus. That is where he went to college.
Yes, it will be a sadder world when this genius leaves us behind. There will be absolutely no one to replace him .....
The 1960's Folk Music Critics and Clubs were located around 4th Street, Greenwich Village NY. Dylan frequently wrote songs in the form of "Love Songs", (in this case as a "Break-Up Song"), and Dylan's "4th Street" seems to be about an unfaithful Lover or Friend. It's also exploring ALL human betrayal. But Dylan is specifically targeting the Folk Music Fans and Critics that turned against him for going electric. These people called Dylan a Hero/Savior while he was writing and performing acoustic Folk Music. But going electric, they called him "Judas". Dylan had every right to be angry, and the song's last line is STONE COLD.
Oh God who cares?
And though i know you're dissatisfied with your position and your face, don't you understand
It's not my problem?
'Always loved that line.
I am convinced Dylan pioneered the diss track. Like a Rolling Stone, Don't Think Twice It's Alright, this song...
This is a song about what we call around here, mostly ironically, "Minnesota Nice"
This song is a very thinly disguised kick back at the musicians, fans press etc who vilified him for going electric.
You definitely need to react to "Like A Rolling Stone", as this was not only his foray into the electric sphere, but altered the course of popular music, even leading the Beatles to compose songs of deeper themes than their earlier hits. However, his acoustic "It's Alright Ma, I'm Only Bleeding" highlights his lyrical and thought-provoking genius as well.
I am definitely doing that one next. I've heard SO much about it... it's about time lol
@@L33Reactsthis song is better
@@L33Reacts I agree with Carlos Herrera below. Positively 4th St. is actually very similar to Like a Rolling Stone, but is crueler, funnier and catchier
Oh, I sure hope he does IT'S ALRIGHT MA (I'M ONLY BLEEDING)!!! One of my very favorite of his songs, along with CHIMES OF FREEDOM and MR. TAMBOURINE MAN.
This is positively my favorite Dylan song!
That is the most knife twisting final lyric to a song ever. Caustic.
Angry Bob is my favorite Bob.
He sort of invented real emotions like anger in pop songs.
The original US single has the session players printed on the label: Bobby Greg-Drums, Michael Bloomfield-Guitar, Harvy Brooks-Bass, Paul Griffin-Piano, and Al Kooper- Organ. Released in the US on September 7, 1965.
Bloomfield and Kooper were great or super!
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Bloomfield was great with Paul Butterfield Blues Band. Check out
East West on
Butterfield's East West album
I’ve met Bob several times and although I love his music he’s incredibly cold and distant.
His friends will admit that it’s impossible to really know him because he just won’t let anybody get close to him.
In 1986, Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers toured with Bob as his backing band. I got to know Tom a little bit and when I asked him about Bob’s attitude he laughed and said “that’s just how he is and he barely even talks to me”
I guess non of that really matters because Bob is an absolute genius and he doesn’t owe anybody anything.
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No, he's given us so much, he can be anyway he wants to be.
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He was bros with Garcia
Bob himself has said he’s basically a shy person. Having such a spotlight on yourself from a young age can’t be easy, especially if you’d rather just be alone or live a quiet life. Then there is the fact that when you’re famous someone always wants to be your “friend”, and not everyone has good intentions. Bob just might find that it’s easier to not talk to people sometimes.
One of the reasons that Bob has been able to write such incredible songs (mostly about life and people) is because he’s an observer. You have to pay attention to what’s going on in the world and to the actions of people. I wish I could remember the famous person who said it, but the quote was: “I’ve never learned anything when I was talking”.
Bob has had the same best friend since childhood. Bob and his brother are very close. You should watch the YT interviews of people who have worked with Dylan over the years.
When you go from a teen obscurity to the greatest musician in the world in a few short years and basically all your professional dreams are fulfilled, everyone's either telling you that you're a genius and a prophet and the greatest thing era or a sellout and a phony and a passing fad, when people you thought were your friends turn their backs on you, when others use you and flatter you but don't mean it, and you're a basically introverted and shy person caught up in the craziest decade in modern music history, yeah, that's going to do a number on you no matter what. Band members had each other to turn to. Dylan had only himself. Sure, he had backup bandmates, but none knew what it was like to be him. Only the Beatles, Elvis, Rolling Stones, Sinatra and a handful of other greats knew what it was like to be them, and all became kind of messed up one way or another.
Dylan is more statement than music. appreciated his later stuff much more.
I’ve seen Dylan perform over 30 times since the early 70’s. Always great. My favorite was those 8 years Larry Campbell was playing guitar in his band.
Visions of Johanna is great, from the Blonde on Blonde album. You have so much Dylan to hear for the first time, I am envious. It might be good to sample a few songs from his albums in more or less chronological order to see how his music evolves. There are a number of bends in the road.
I never knew who he was writing this about, some say Joan Baez, but talk about poetically taking someone down viciously. I have not heard the song in a while but you can never forget the line -" I wish that for just one time, you could stand inside my shoes, you would know what a drag it is to see you". Damn
The only thing that rivals this for put-down is Meat Loaf saying he's "praying for the end of time".
Agreed… You think Dylan is setting the listener up for the old line, "Walk a mile in my shoes to see how it feels to be me" but he switches it up with cutting humor by saying "you'd know what a drag it is to see you." 😀
Dylan is the GOAT!
Love this song, definitely one of my favorites
Don't have much love for Dylan, but much respect.
This song, to me ? Hands down his best...
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Rolling Stone magazine voted Bob's song Like A Rolling Stone the greatest song of all.
Dylan at 82 is currently tour for his latest LP "Rough and Rowdy Ways" Timothee Chalamet is playing Dylan in the up coming film "A Complete Unknown" based on the period of time when Dylan went electric and the folk music community lost it, actually booing him at concerts when he came on stage with his band and electric guitar. Chalamet is nailing it as a young Dylan, you can see clips of the film on UA-cam. Dylan is named as one of the co-producers. He is also a brilliant painter and creating metal/iron sculpture. A true artist. Check out "Like A Rolling Stone"
Song about Izzy Young the guy who ran The Folklore Center where Dylan hung out when he first got to New York. Everybody wanted to claim that they discovered Dylan.
The "going electric" negative response was less about the "electric" and more about the CONTENT of his new songs at the time. Dylan was embraced by the folk community in the early 60's because he was writing songs with a distinctly political and social edge - attacking racism, political hypocrisy, etc. - and yes, those songs were primarily acoustic, but it was the fact that he was doing what they were doing that made them embrace him. He was an absolute savior to the folk community, as it made folk go more mainstream and made the ISSUES they talked about go mainstream as well. What some in the folk movement hated about his NEW songs was that they were PERSONAL songs, often surreal, etc. and that he'd abandoned the kinds of songs he had been writing (like "The Lonesome Death of Hattie Carroll", etc.) for a more personal songwriting ("Like a Rolling Stone", etc.). The folk movement didn't like the new electric rock/pop music at the time, because most of it was doing nothing to further the "movement" - political/social, etc. - that was so important to so many people in the 60's - and Dylan joining that pop/rock world and no longer writing songs that helped that movement - THAT's what they were really pissed off about. In other words, it was less that he started using electric guitars and a band than the fact that the new songs were just no longer part of that folk movement, as many saw him as a political/social hero when he started with that - so they saw him as "SELLING OUT", basically - which he wasn't, of course, as his own style of personal pop/rock was a revolution in itself, as nobody in the pop/rock world was doing what he was doing *there*, either - and just like he did in the folk movement, influencing folk songwriters, what he then did in the pop/rock world influenced that genre, as well. But yeah, it wasn't the guitars - it was the change in content that caused the uproar. In many ways, the Beatles got the same reaction when they shifted from the early, innocent songs to more adult themes and more experimental stuff. If we're being honest, it's mainly because Dylan and the Beatles just started smoking a lot of weed - and that tends to lead to more personal writing.
Bob Dylan was homeless the first year he moved to Manhattan from Minnesota in 1961. He then rented an apartment at 161 4th street.
you got Bobbed
There was a period when it seemed everything Dylan wrote was like another chapter in an increasingly complex and kaleidoscopic lesson about human nature. Things got slightly patchier after his motorbike accident but, despite the ups and downs, the level of his insight and his songwriting ability has had many resurgences right up to the present day.
One thing ive always found interesting with Dylan's lyrics and the way he delivers them is that sometimes you cannot really understand what he's saying...kind of like Mick Jagger"s singing... when you see the printed lyrics they are somewhat different than what you thought they were.
It's like a former friend of mine that really liked Bob Dylan's song "Lady Elaine." I never had the heart to tell him that it was "Lay, Lady Lay."
Sir Bob! Nuff said!! Good stuff Lee :D
It was a message to all his fans who hated him for going electric. He was even getting death
threats. He just wanted to reach more people and to get away from the people who loved
him for his protest song. Dylan also wrote some beautiful love songs which were hits, "If
Not For You", "Lay, Lady, Lay" and "Love Minus Zero----No Limit" are three of them. "Sad
Eyed Lady of the Lowlands" you already know.
This song is my ringtone, love it when the phone rings b
Bloomfield & Kooper killed it for Bob. Try Tombstone Blues or Subterranean Homesick Blues for more electrified Bob. ✌️❤️🎶
'Glad you're exploring Dylan, Lee.
For me:
Don't Think Twice it's Alright.
If You See Her.
It's Not Dark Yet.
But i'm a pretty melancholy cat.
Thanks -
Loved your reaction.
A lot of great lines in this song.
F YEA!!! **Bob Dylan** One Of A Kind **Genius** YAY **HappyPixieTwirls**
Time for Like a Rolling Stone - Dylan
Tangled up in blue, Lay Lady lay, knocking on heavens door. All along the watchtower. After that, Jimi Hendrix version of all along the watchtower.
Idiot Wind is Dylan's real knock-out take down lyric (my opinion), Blood on the Tracks album, a favorite. He's honest enough to say it out loud then comes full circle at the end with a look at himself. Genius
Yes, "Idiot Wind" 1974 is Dylan's other most brutal put-down song. Mostly aimed at Writers who were speculating about Dylan's private life. But as you said, Idiot Wind has a touch of honesty/(maturity) at the end. He sings "Your an Idiot Babe, it's a wonder you still know how to breath.", but by the end, he sings "We're Idiots Babe, it's a wonder we can even feed ourselves." Since Dylan's marriage was failing, he was most likely venting his anger at his wife, and at all the gossip mongers, but Dylan was also honest enough acknowledging his own failures as a partner.
Bob on a severe headache? Your brave! Could be a cure💕
Tangled Up In Blue or It’s Not Dark Yet and Every Grain Of Sand and the list just goes on and on when it comes to Bob Dylan
'Like a Rolling Stone'
Hi Lee. Bob Dylan’s songs are revered. His lyrics are awesome and so many have covered his tunes. Jimi Hendrix loved Bob Dylan’s ‘All Along the Watchtower’ which you may have heard. Back to Dylan, please listen to ‘Subterranean Homesick Blues’. That one is my personal favorite. To me it’s like a folk singer/poet doing a rap song. It’s really cool. Great channel. Cheers!
used to have that vinyl...
Love Dylan, no wonder he won the special 2016 Pulitzer Prize for lifetime songwriting. You need to get the lyrics when reacting to Dylan. My favorite of all his songs is Don't Think Twice. IMO the definitive song about a romantic breakup and it applies to both the male or female POV. Do the studio official version if you listen to it. Damn migraines, I feel you.
Served cold and clinical
I remember reading in the midsixties that0 this song was written about Phil Ochs, a fellow folkie in the village..... peace and love
It's not about Ochs. Phil Ochs was one of the few folk singers who supported Dylan when he went electric. He himself would experiment with other music genres in his later albums. Dylan and Ochs's friendship took a bad turn about 6 months after this song was written. Ochs had said that Can You Please Crawl Out Your Window was a bad song, so Dylan called him a journalist and threw him out of the limo they were in. A few years later, they reconciled and Dylan performed at the benefit for Allende, organised by Ochs. When Ochs took his life, Dylan locked himself in his room for a week. Anyway, Izzy Young thinks the song is about him, he's probably right imo.
ITS ALRIGHT MA
"You got a lotta nerve to say you are my friend" is an opening line I have used & meant it. Great Dylan indeed. Lee please try
"Like A Rolling Stone" or "Queen Jane approximately"
To really capture Dylan’s electric controversy you should go to his live performances with The Band (Hawks) from 1966. “Like A Rolling Stone" from Royal Albert Hall in London is a great place to start. Also the version from Free Trade Hall in Manchester England. Angry crowds and a defiant Dylan changing the course of music history.
I would love to see Bob stand in defiance against the folk mob ;) sorry, I had to take that one. Low hanging fruit but it made me chuckle.
He did and it is quite enjoyable listening to him push back in his Dylanesque way.
No one in his right mind but, a true artist would completely push back on the very recent fame he achieved against the very audience who gave it to him.
Somebody has obviously REALLY pissed him off!!😂😂🇬🇧🇬🇧
Love Bob !
another album I played and played....great!
That's gotta make the head feel better.....
Excellent Choice😅
You should listen to “Hurricane” to hear a very different side of Bob Dylan. It’s on “Blood on the Tracks”. Any track from that album is prime.
Hurricane is from the Desire album.
Back in the 2000s, John Sebastian of The Lovin' Spoonful was interviewed for an excellent documentary called John Lennon's Jukebox (which included Positively 4th Street). His commentary was that Dylan wrote his early protest and social commentary songs as a self-appointed truth sayer, with the attitude that everything you say is wrong and his job was to tell you why. Sebastian then said that Dylan applied that same attitude towards writing love songs (I think Don't Think Twice It's All Right is a good example of that). Sebastian then speculated that Joan Baez might have been the target of Positively 4th Street.She and Dylan had been together for a couple of years, and then suddenly broke up in the middle of the Don't Look Back tour in 1965 - the speculation is that he wanted to get away from protest and social commentary, while she wanted him to continue. You can take that interpretation with as many grains of salt as you wish.
I don't know how much o' Blonde On Blonde you've listened to yet apart from Sad Eyed Lady O' The Lowlands but It's my go to Dylan album (except for the first track which I've tried for decades to enjoy but no such luck.) Me thinks you gonna like most o' dem songs then. A lot.
Supposedly this song is about Izzy Young, who ran the Folklore Center in Greenwich Village. He and many other folk artists were disappointed that Dylan had gone electric. As the tale goes, Pete Seeger once threatened to cut the cable with an axe.
Lee check out Dylan's Like a Rolling Stone. Arguably the greatest song in classic rock.
Keep going!!
As to his “troubled youth” lol, he had a fine youth. He lied about running away! 😅
It’s all part of the Dylan Show!!
See Scorsese’s documentary about him.
Also I’m Not There where they have many actors (male and female!) try to portray his many projections….they all are him while simultaneously NONE are him! And that’s the point!
But at this point one of our greatest filmmakers had dedicated himself to at least 3 projects to Dylan or his orbit: No Direction Home, the Rolling Thunder Revue, the Last Waltz about the last show of his backing group The Band where he closes the show!!
Try WHITE HEAT from Lou Reed!!! About heroin. Produced by Bowie
Don't ever piss Bob off.
I learned more about human psychology from Dylan than any of the courses I took.
I kind of doubt that he's talking about a specific person - but rather a specific TYPE of person - i.e. all those who spoke against him when he was living in Greenwich Village - an amalgamation of a thousand naysayers.
Please do CHIMES OF FREEDOM (The Byrds version is best) and IT'S ALRIGHT MA (I'M ONLY BLEEDING) and MASTERS OF WAR.
The organ makes this song
please do "Visions of Johanna".
I understand he wrote this tune about Phil Oachs.
Izzy Young.
Do Dylan and Johnnie Cash,"Girl from the North Country!" A real Hoot when they F-up, the ending!
You don’t want to get on the wrong side of this guy
LOL True that!
The ultimate put down song…
Request "Desolation Row".
Listen to Subterranean Homesick Blues and then listen to Give It Away Now by the Red Hot Chili Peppers. You'll hear the similarities.
This is in lyrically in line with Like A Rolling Stone.. observation on hypocrisy.
The first diss!?
The original diss track.
Good diss song.
Larry Norman was a Christian artist. Had some good songs.
The name sounded familiar but I couldn't remember where I knew it. I grew up on Christian music so I might have heard of him
The ultimate put-down song.
A Murder Most Foul - about JFK assassination and much more.
get to feeling better
Some songs can not be absorbed on only one listen. You address the sound and the feel of the tune, but said *nothing* about the lyrics?
Okay, on your second pass you'll get more of the harsh sentiments he expresses, so directly, for those who boosted him in one phase then put him down in the next. The "loss of faith," I guess, ran in *both* directions.
Another artist you should check out is Nick Gilder. You probably never heard of him. His big hits were “Hot Child in the City” & “Here Comes the Night” from the late 70s.
(SCROLL DOWN FOR RECOMMENDATIONS.) I'm surprised you didn't identify more with the lyrics given what you've been through, @L33Reacts, but you do have a headache! This is the best kiss-off song to fair-weather friends ever written.
(Dylan's youth wasn't what he made it out to be. He made up his name and his life, which is actually cool. He was a frat boy at a local college!) While it's true that Dylan had a specific rock sound in '65-'66, he embraced a new sound and a new band set-up with every album, and that's true to this day. So there is no one "electric" sound. Here are some songs that show the variety:
> 𝐆𝐨𝐭𝐭𝐚 𝐒𝐞𝐫𝐯𝐞 𝐒𝐨𝐦𝐞𝐛𝐨𝐝𝐲 (𝐛𝐚𝐜𝐤𝐞𝐝 𝐛𝐲 𝐁𝐨𝐨𝐤𝐞𝐫 𝐓 𝐚𝐧𝐝 𝐭𝐡𝐞 𝐌𝐆𝐬; 𝐃𝐨𝐧𝐚𝐥𝐝 "𝐃𝐮𝐜𝐤" 𝐃𝐮𝐧𝐧 𝐨𝐧 𝐝𝐫𝐮𝐦𝐬)
> 𝐊𝐧𝐨𝐜𝐤𝐢𝐧' 𝐎𝐧 𝐇𝐞𝐚𝐯𝐞𝐧'𝐬 𝐃𝐨𝐨𝐫 (𝐛𝐚𝐜𝐤𝐞𝐝 𝐛𝐲 𝐑𝐨𝐠𝐞𝐫 𝐌𝐜𝐆𝐮𝐢𝐧𝐧, 𝐉𝐢𝐦 𝐊𝐞𝐥𝐭𝐧𝐞𝐫 𝐨𝐧 𝐝𝐫𝐮𝐦𝐬)
> 𝐌𝐚𝐧 𝐢𝐧 𝐭𝐡𝐞 𝐋𝐨𝐧𝐠 𝐁𝐥𝐚𝐜𝐤 𝐂𝐨𝐚𝐭 (𝐃𝐚𝐧𝐢𝐞𝐥 𝐋𝐚𝐧𝐨𝐢𝐬 𝐨𝐧 𝐝𝐨𝐛𝐫𝐨, 𝐌𝐚𝐥𝐜𝐨𝐥𝐦 𝐁𝐮𝐫𝐧 𝐨𝐧 𝐤𝐞𝐲𝐛𝐨𝐚𝐫𝐝𝐬 -- 𝐢𝐧𝐜𝐥𝐮𝐝𝐢𝐧𝐠 𝐜𝐫𝐢𝐜𝐤𝐞𝐭𝐬 -- 𝐚𝐧𝐝 𝐧𝐨 𝐝𝐫𝐮𝐦𝐬 𝐨𝐫 𝐩𝐞𝐫𝐜𝐮𝐬𝐬𝐢𝐨𝐧)
> 𝐇𝐮𝐫𝐫𝐢𝐜𝐚𝐧𝐞 (𝐕𝐢𝐧𝐧𝐢𝐞 𝐁𝐞𝐥𝐥 𝐨𝐧 𝟏𝟐-𝐬𝐭𝐫𝐢𝐧𝐠 𝐠𝐮𝐢𝐭𝐚𝐫, 𝐩𝐨𝐰𝐞𝐫𝐟𝐮𝐥 𝐝𝐫𝐮𝐦𝐬 𝐚𝐧𝐝 𝐩𝐞𝐫𝐜𝐮𝐬𝐬𝐢𝐨𝐧 𝐟𝐫𝐨𝐦 𝐇𝐨𝐰𝐢𝐞 𝐖𝐲𝐞𝐭𝐡 𝐚𝐧𝐝 𝐋𝐮𝐭𝐡𝐞𝐫 𝐑𝐢𝐱, 𝐚𝐧𝐝 𝐯𝐢𝐨𝐥𝐢𝐧 𝐨𝐟 𝐒𝐜𝐚𝐫𝐥𝐞𝐭 𝐑𝐢𝐯𝐞𝐫𝐚)
> 𝗚𝗼𝘁𝘁𝗮 𝗦𝗲𝗿𝘃𝗲 𝗦𝗼𝗺𝗲𝗯𝗼𝗱𝘆 (𝗯𝗮𝗰𝗸𝗲𝗱 𝗯𝘆 𝗕𝗼𝗼𝗸𝗲𝗿 𝗧 𝗮𝗻𝗱 𝘁𝗵𝗲 𝗠𝗚𝘀; 𝗗𝗼𝗻𝗮𝗹𝗱 "𝗗𝘂𝗰𝗸" 𝗗𝘂𝗻𝗻 𝗼𝗻 𝗱𝗿𝘂𝗺𝘀)
> 𝗞𝗻𝗼𝗰𝗸𝗶𝗻' 𝗢𝗻 𝗛𝗲𝗮𝘃𝗲𝗻'𝘀 𝗗𝗼𝗼𝗿 (𝗯𝗮𝗰𝗸𝗲𝗱 𝗯𝘆 𝗥𝗼𝗴𝗲𝗿 𝗠𝗰𝗚𝘂𝗶𝗻𝗻, 𝗝𝗶𝗺 𝗞𝗲𝗹𝘁𝗻𝗲𝗿 𝗼𝗻 𝗱𝗿𝘂𝗺𝘀)
> 𝗠𝗮𝗻 𝗶𝗻 𝘁𝗵𝗲 𝗟𝗼𝗻𝗴 𝗕𝗹𝗮𝗰𝗸 𝗖𝗼𝗮𝘁 (𝗗𝗮𝗻𝗶𝗲𝗹 𝗟𝗮𝗻𝗼𝗶𝘀 𝗼𝗻 𝗱𝗼𝗯𝗿𝗼, 𝗠𝗮𝗹𝗰𝗼𝗹𝗺 𝗕𝘂𝗿𝗻 𝗼𝗻 𝗸𝗲𝘆𝗯𝗼𝗮𝗿𝗱𝘀 -- 𝗶𝗻𝗰𝗹𝘂𝗱𝗶𝗻𝗴 𝗰𝗿𝗶𝗰𝗸𝗲𝘁𝘀 -- 𝗮𝗻𝗱 𝗻𝗼 𝗱𝗿𝘂𝗺𝘀 𝗼𝗿 𝗽𝗲𝗿𝗰𝘂𝘀𝘀𝗶𝗼𝗻)
> 𝗛𝘂𝗿𝗿𝗶𝗰𝗮𝗻𝗲 (𝗩𝗶𝗻𝗻𝗶𝗲 𝗕𝗲𝗹𝗹 𝗼𝗻 𝟭𝟮-𝘀𝘁𝗿𝗶𝗻𝗴 𝗴𝘂𝗶𝘁𝗮𝗿, 𝗽𝗼𝘄𝗲𝗿𝗳𝘂𝗹 𝗱𝗿𝘂𝗺𝘀 𝗮𝗻𝗱 𝗽𝗲𝗿𝗰𝘂𝘀𝘀𝗶𝗼𝗻 𝗳𝗿𝗼𝗺 𝗛𝗼𝘄𝗶𝗲 𝗪𝘆𝗲𝘁𝗵 𝗮𝗻𝗱 𝗟𝘂𝘁𝗵𝗲𝗿 𝗥𝗶𝘅, 𝗮𝗻𝗱 𝘃𝗶𝗼𝗹𝗶𝗻 𝗼𝗳 𝗦𝗰𝗮𝗿𝗹𝗲𝘁 𝗥𝗶𝘃𝗲𝗿𝗮)
#L33reacts
𝖔 > Gotta Serve Somebody (backed by Booker T and the MGs; Donald "Duck" Dunn on drums)
> Knockin' On Heaven's Door (backed by Roger McGuinn, Jim Keltner on drums)
> Man in the Long Black Coat (Daniel Lanois on dobro, Malcolm Burn on keyboards -- including crickets -- and no drums or percussion)
> Hurricane (Vinnie Bell on 12-string guitar, powerful drums and percussion from Howie Wyeth and Luther Rix, and violin of Scarlet Rivera)