yeah, Cranesbill's lore joke was actually pretty funny for once, along with the other major victories the plants bring: - actually decent designs and animations - decent, unique and novel plant effects that aren't too useless or too powerful (barring Batter's plant food and meteors hitting both extremes at once WHYYYYY) - interesting synergies that promote making unique builds (I especially like Capaci-Cone being unable to charge up while facing a horde being somewhat circumvented by placing it around electric plants, and said plants getting charged up in return when Capaci-cone is at a certain level) - a Jester W this episode was actually a pretty decent showcase all around.
@pillowmint4622 I think the damage of Pike Hoya's basic attack is too high but that's tame compared to other plants we've seen (and the gimmick is really neat too)
Wow, I think this might just be a coolest batch of plants yet. Capaci-cone and Gorgon Pitcher looks super fun to play around with, and Burdock batter too.
Let's be real though. Even Pike Hoya and Cranesbill Fencer are good (assuming bugs get fixed). Pike can be good for stalling ambush zombies like All Star and Surfer. Cranesbill as a plant could be fun to have as a concept. The overall list is top-notch.
Okay, Gorgon Pitcher is amazing. First, top tier design, they hit it out of the park. Secondly, a unique and fun gimmick. Yes, Medusa Zombies do the same thing, but this is more interesting because it’s a plant that can be both a help and detriment, along with giving Grave Buster an actual purpose besides Dark Ages and Ancient Egypt. Overall, Talkweb may have fumbled the bag with plants, but man, they made a straight up banger with Gorgon Pitcher.
All we need now to see a Medusa's zombie get petrified by her and since she petrifies friendly zombies, it's gonna be funny to see her getting petrified for once.
I can see what they tried to do with burdock batter. A defensive/support plant that sort of gives piercing and stun, and can stop the more annoying zombies. Shame it’s not used, it’s a really good plant on paper.
Burdock Batter is actually a super cool plant, like Torchwood but a bit cooler. Gorgon Pitcher is really cool too, especially how she gives Grave Buster another use
Gargon Pitcher is such a badass plant. It's really useful and unique. Also it has some cool features like getting poison effect from poisonous plants. As well as giving more usage to plants that really need it like grave buster. Good job Talkweb, this is how you need to design plants.
I really appreciate the songs being listed throughout the video and the composers who made them being listed in the credits. It’s little details like that which make these videos stand out even more.
Man, those plants are so much more quality then international slop we got nowadays. Their art style is coherent, and their gimmicks are far more interesting, like the salad that baits attacks and cabbage turning zombie into statues, which combos with grave buster. Shame on you, international.
10:20 they reflect towards the ground because the code just reverses the pea speed values and changes the plant damage variable to true, while jester makes a clone of the object and deletes the original one on touch
4:07 I think I already understand why this bug happens, when this plant dies while the zombie is in the air the game gets confused, it can't erase the data correctly and that's why the game crashes
Seems the pike also has its spear discolored yellow when charged. I suppose it makes sense why it can't reflect those peas specifically, shadow peas are intangible, and maybe the electric ones too, and the goo would probably get stuck to them.
Burdock is actually such a cool idea, I could imagine having this thing up front behind the defensive walls, with primal peashooters to stall and laser beans to deal with crowds.
Honestly, with how good literally _all_ of the plants shown are for once, I'd actually go as far as to say that they're all (or at least some of them are) worth being ported into one of the mods! an event for Reflourished, perhaps?
I feel like Capacicone would fit really well, but it would probably need a nerf. Plus I don't want that absolutely adorable 10/10 design to go to waste.
A small thing i have to appreciate with Pike Hoya is that the upgrades don't overcomplicate it with new abilities, they just make it better at what it already does
I really love the choice of music, it feels refreshing and it reminds me of Village themes from Monster Hunter that btw i highly recommend, especially Pokke Village theme.
The reason the Batter is able to hit parasol zombies but not excavator zombies it's because the game probably still counts the projectile as a pea attack, which usually is a straight lane attack. Also, they only deflect/get damage respectively from attacks that start as lobbed
I think that the answer to many of the differences between Jester and the two other dudes reflecting projectiles can be explained with my theory In the code, the two dudes’ reflect work by actually reflecting projectiles back to the plant that shot them, independent of lane, but still following the same or similar trajectory the projectiles had (in simple words, the two dudes change the direction of the trajectory of the projectile, you can prove it with threepeater) While Jester does not deflect projectiles, but instead absorbs the projectiles, erasing their damage, and then sending them back their lane Evidence of my theory is that you might have noticed that the two dudes reflect projectiles INSTANTLY, while Jester takes a while to send them back
0:37 Flag zombie is wrong, you can also tell by how the spear has a slight yellow aura around it. That will also tell you if it's angry (if you missed the animation).
Capaci-cone is such a cool plant, and I think it would be even better to play around them, like a full loadout with supports and occasional dps, while everything else comes from Capaci-cone.
You should do a tierlist for all plants in the Chinese version, including plants from international version that have good new level up effects, that would be awesome
WE ARE BACK !!!!! I actually really like the concept of Gorgon Pitcher, however I feel like she could do without the snake attack, the petrifying is useful enough on its own
3:41 Okay, a 150 sun card that can not have their projectile redirected by zombies as well as 2-shot basic zombies, that costume is too broken for its plant food ability to be like that. A 5x5??? Dude learn how to be as effective as a Doomshroom.
Everyone talking about how useless is jester for not being able to reflect almost any Chinese exclusive projectile while parasol can’t protect from almost any lobbed attack from the Chinese version.
HELL YES 🎉 WE BACK Gotta say, even if the 2C plants are functionally kinda goofy, I really like their designs, probably more than international's current offerings tbh
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Dude, the Burdock Batter is genuinely such a clever idea. Like an alternative Torchwood to modify attacks. Would love to see this thing in a mod.
Alternative that can be used alongside it
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YEAHHHH
Peakkkk🔥🔥
Holy macaroni, Scribble, didn't expect to see You here! It's a surprise to be sure, but a welcome one.
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Burdock Batter is so cool, didn’t realize it had so much functionality from its smallest abilities!
Do you still want to redesign Burdock Batter?
Huh, character development?/hj
Why do you not like burdock batter then
Yo it's Alex!
the ability is defiantly cooler than it sounded when i first watched your video, but the design isn't the best
Gorgon pitcher is the type of plant pvz2 international needs.
Fun and creative
She is basically the Plant counterpart of Zombie Medusa ya know. She will prioritize Zombie Medusa if she was ported to Vanilla.
@@otienat9974 i wonder if she do well with that other plant that requires tombstones (tomb wrangler i think is the name?)
You know I didn’t expect being an alcoholic to be part of the Cranesbill Fencer lore.
yeah, Cranesbill's lore joke was actually pretty funny for once, along with the other major victories the plants bring:
- actually decent designs and animations
- decent, unique and novel plant effects that aren't too useless or too powerful (barring Batter's plant food and meteors hitting both extremes at once WHYYYYY)
- interesting synergies that promote making unique builds (I especially like Capaci-Cone being unable to charge up while facing a horde being somewhat circumvented by placing it around electric plants, and said plants getting charged up in return when Capaci-cone is at a certain level)
- a Jester W
this episode was actually a pretty decent showcase all around.
@pillowmint4622 I think the damage of Pike Hoya's basic attack is too high but that's tame compared to other plants we've seen (and the gimmick is really neat too)
I love almanac lore
Not as crazy as Gorgon flat out stating she turns the zombies to stone because she's checking them out.
@@maglev0789 oh yeah, that too, but I can sort of excuse that because it isn't a guaranteed instakill like a fling.
3:13 Glider zombie: I must go, my family needs me.
"pay attention to the glider" famous words
Note glider zombie died on the way back to his family
@@rylanbrewer3320 Atleast he left a quarter for fighting.
Wow, I think this might just be a coolest batch of plants yet. Capaci-cone and Gorgon Pitcher looks super fun to play around with, and Burdock batter too.
Let's be real though. Even Pike Hoya and Cranesbill Fencer are good (assuming bugs get fixed). Pike can be good for stalling ambush zombies like All Star and Surfer. Cranesbill as a plant could be fun to have as a concept. The overall list is top-notch.
Batter once he has plant food: "think fast chucklenuts"
I love tf2 humor
BONK
Say goodbye to your freakin' kneecaps, chucklehead!
Guys guys hear me out the mad milk is sem-
@yinghannong we know. We all know.
Okay, Gorgon Pitcher is amazing.
First, top tier design, they hit it out of the park.
Secondly, a unique and fun gimmick. Yes, Medusa Zombies do the same thing, but this is more interesting because it’s a plant that can be both a help and detriment, along with giving Grave Buster an actual purpose besides Dark Ages and Ancient Egypt.
Overall, Talkweb may have fumbled the bag with plants, but man, they made a straight up banger with Gorgon Pitcher.
All we need now to see a Medusa's zombie get petrified by her and since she petrifies friendly zombies, it's gonna be funny to see her getting petrified for once.
Actually, burdock batter hit it out of the park (ba dun tish)
But Talkweb need to fix her glitch NOT damaging Excavator Zombie
Gorgon Pitcher may have a ton of mechanics tied to it, but is still better and more cohesive than most modern PVZ2 plants.
@@naturescorruptedinfactorie8062what? the mechanics make the plants good
I can see what they tried to do with burdock batter. A defensive/support plant that sort of gives piercing and stun, and can stop the more annoying zombies. Shame it’s not used, it’s a really good plant on paper.
Absolutely Loved how the music for the Burdock Batter was all from baseball games! You're the best
And sword fighting music for... I forgot the name but the sword one!
@@professorpotato572Cranesbill Fencer?
24:17 REALLY like the way the music really begins when she petrifies to show the gimmick of the plant
Burdock Batter is actually a super cool plant, like Torchwood but a bit cooler. Gorgon Pitcher is really cool too, especially how she gives Grave Buster another use
Gargon Pitcher is such a badass plant.
It's really useful and unique.
Also it has some cool features like getting poison effect from poisonous plants. As well as giving more usage to plants that really need it like grave buster.
Good job Talkweb, this is how you need to design plants.
2:02 that “you really thought?” felt personal
I really appreciate the songs being listed throughout the video and the composers who made them being listed in the credits. It’s little details like that which make these videos stand out even more.
Man, those plants are so much more quality then international slop we got nowadays. Their art style is coherent, and their gimmicks are far more interesting, like the salad that baits attacks and cabbage turning zombie into statues, which combos with grave buster. Shame on you, international.
10:20 they reflect towards the ground because the code just reverses the pea speed values and changes the plant damage variable to true, while jester makes a clone of the object and deletes the original one on touch
I quite like Gorgon pitcher, Capacicone has a cool design, and Burdock batter is an interesting concept.
2:33
“I know something is here, but I can’t see it. Maybe if i continue stabbing the air I’ll get it”
-Pike Hoya….probably
4:07 I think I already understand why this bug happens, when this plant dies while the zombie is in the air the game gets confused, it can't erase the data correctly and that's why the game crashes
the selection for this one was really neat!
burdock batter seems fun for insane pea stacking setups
I love when plants have direct sinergies with others like Burdock Batter and peas
Also props to Gorgon Pitcher for giving Gravebusters a new purpose
I like when capaci-cone pulls up tech-X to kill zombies.
cant wait for the new d6 plant that rerolls every plant on screen
I THOUGHT I WAS THE ONLY ONE THAT THOUGHT OF THAT
@@jeremypanjaitan4039 didnt we have a d7 relic and a downgraded plant d6 relic
We making it into the basement with this one
Wow, Burdock Batter seems like a fun synergistic plant while still being able to have some niche uses outside it's own synergy.
Ive always wanted you to analyze burdock batter so thanks for listening to your fans and doing it!
The Medusa plant is genuinely awesome, I love her and hope she comes to the international version!
i dont think the chinese plants will go to the international version bc i heard that they signed and agreement to not use the other ones design
@@TheTrazo:(
Finally Overanalyzing plants is back after almost a 1 year!
Seems the pike also has its spear discolored yellow when charged.
I suppose it makes sense why it can't reflect those peas specifically, shadow peas are intangible, and maybe the electric ones too, and the goo would probably get stuck to them.
the fire ones would probably burn them then
Also, electric peas would be worse off from being launched
Burdock is actually such a cool idea, I could imagine having this thing up front behind the defensive walls, with primal peashooters to stall and laser beans to deal with crowds.
Amazing video,just as expected!
Pike Hoya and Gorgon Pitcher are really cool! Its always good to see your content Flag!
Honestly, with how good literally _all_ of the plants shown are for once, I'd actually go as far as to say that they're all (or at least some of them are) worth being ported into one of the mods! an event for Reflourished, perhaps?
I feel like Capacicone would fit really well, but it would probably need a nerf. Plus I don't want that absolutely adorable 10/10 design to go to waste.
@@D-S-G. Agreed! their mechanic is super creative, and the plant itself is super adorable!
6:06 My traumas... They're coming back...
10:10 one must imagine jester zombie crying of joy
YOOOOO, glad to see this series is back!
A small thing i have to appreciate with Pike Hoya is that the upgrades don't overcomplicate it with new abilities, they just make it better at what it already does
I really love the choice of music, it feels refreshing and it reminds me of Village themes from Monster Hunter that btw i highly recommend, especially Pokke Village theme.
14:34 gotta love the fact that you played egg engines for this one lol
Burdock Batter must be a really good baseball player if he can hit projectiles from BEHIND that are moving in the same direction as he hits them to.
That takes some serious skill
“A huge wave of overanalyzed plants, are coming”
Glad to see another video of this series dude!
Finally the series is back after 9 months
I guess you could say that Flag Zombie delivered a banger of a video
The reason the Batter is able to hit parasol zombies but not excavator zombies it's because the game probably still counts the projectile as a pea attack, which usually is a straight lane attack.
Also, they only deflect/get damage respectively from attacks that start as lobbed
I BEEN WAITING AND NOW YOU PUT THE BEST SERIES IN YOUR CHANNEL NOW
KEEP UP THE EXCELLENT WORK👍
10:21 That Jester threw a pea backwards here for some reason.
beats me how one man can find glitches in a game more efficiently than the actual devs of the game.
All of these plants here are so creative y'all 😆
I love it so much 😭
I think that the answer to many of the differences between Jester and the two other dudes reflecting projectiles can be explained with my theory
In the code, the two dudes’ reflect work by actually reflecting projectiles back to the plant that shot them, independent of lane, but still following the same or similar trajectory the projectiles had (in simple words, the two dudes change the direction of the trajectory of the projectile, you can prove it with threepeater)
While Jester does not deflect projectiles, but instead absorbs the projectiles, erasing their damage, and then sending them back their lane
Evidence of my theory is that you might have noticed that the two dudes reflect projectiles INSTANTLY, while Jester takes a while to send them back
0:37 Flag zombie is wrong, you can also tell by how the spear has a slight yellow aura around it. That will also tell you if it's angry (if you missed the animation).
Aint yellow enough for a colorblind but sure
Burdock Batter and Gorgon Pitcher are plants I’m just DYING for them to put in the international PvZ2, they’re just awesome!
I can feel bandit zombie getting jester syndrome.
finally a new plant analyz video , thank you for helping the english pvz community trought those nicely done videos ^^
“Burdock Batter seems like a cool, well-balanced, and creative plant. It would work well in the inter-“
*sees plant food*
“Okay maybe not.”
Burdock Batter is basically a good alternative for Torchwood instead of an outright replacement, at least thats what I'm getting from this
Gorgon Pitcher and Burdock Batter are geniunely inventive
Gorgon pitcher looks really cool id love to see it being used in your other videos!
I love the design of Gorgon pitcher plant, I think that she is very suitable for Enchant-mint family in the International version
woww the animation is finally getting better
Capaci-cone is such a cool plant, and I think it would be even better to play around them, like a full loadout with supports and occasional dps, while everything else comes from Capaci-cone.
You should do a tierlist for all plants in the Chinese version, including plants from international version that have good new level up effects, that would be awesome
7:19 love when you put memes in your videos
Finally, I can enjoy some good pvz content 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
21:14 This is... This is a dark souls reference?!?
Pog it's back.
Edit: I had no idea there was another plant that buffed peas that wasn't torch wood
So happy there’s some Mario music featured in here!! It genuinely gives these plants life
WE ARE BACK !!!!!
I actually really like the concept of Gorgon Pitcher, however I feel like she could do without the snake attack, the petrifying is useful enough on its own
if batter could reliablely hit all peas it would be so much better. its an pea syngy that does more than make fire peas and work with split pea
Overanalyzing every other PEAK is back 🗣️🔥🔥🔥
pike hoya is such a neat plant, both visual and gameplay wise
Jester Ws are always appreciated.
The burdock batter is actually such a cool concept
Gorgon pitcher is the coolest plant ive seen in ages
Would be a great gemium in PVZ 2
3:41 Okay, a 150 sun card that can not have their projectile redirected by zombies as well as 2-shot basic zombies, that costume is too broken for its plant food ability to be like that. A 5x5??? Dude learn how to be as effective as a Doomshroom.
Burdock Batter is one of my new favorites
Ngl They Put Alot of Effort for Gorgon Pitcher 🍞,well atleast for the most part
Basically (in this eps)
Talkweb need to fix bugs and crash. All of them are quite interesting to use exce cranesbill fencer
Burdock Batter's Plant Food may be the best sound design in PvZ2C
I'm so glad he put the OG Wii Sports baseball training team. I'm happy.
When we needed them the most, they returned
I MISS THIS SERIE SO MUCH, PLEASE NEVER STOP 💔
YAYYYY MORE OVERANALYZING 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏❤❤❤
31 minute of peak pvz2c content!!!!
Everyone talking about how useless is jester for not being able to reflect almost any Chinese exclusive projectile while parasol can’t protect from almost any lobbed attack from the Chinese version.
Finally founding this series again
Does Gorgon pitcher work with Tomb Tangler? Seems like a good synergy.
Tomb Tangler does not exist in this version.
The one time it'd be useful.
A fair batch of PvzC plants imo
It makes sense that Gorgon Pitcher works with Pokra, Stallia and Primal Rafflesia even though they’re not poison, they’re Ail-Mint plants.
Jester W, he finally got to deflect something, it gets no love in the chinese version.
HELL YES 🎉 WE BACK
Gotta say, even if the 2C plants are functionally kinda goofy, I really like their designs, probably more than international's current offerings tbh
Overanalyzing EVERY Other Plant - [12]
0:11 - Pike Hoya
6:01 - Burdock Batter
14:30 - Capaci-Cone
19:21 - Cranesbill Fencer
24:01 - Gorgon Pitcher
Pin it please
The plants this time around are actually pretty cool and unique. I still dont like the sheer amount of melee swordfighters though
Finally, an episode of series we are waiting for
23:08 MASSIVE?!?!
Capaci-cone is basically tech x in plant form
Is no one gonna talk about how cranesbill fencer looks like fishhook grass???
A cooler idea for Burdok Batter at level 5 is to have it where every pea that passes it rapidly spins to turn it into either fastballs or curveballs
Every plant in this one was a banger good job pvz china
BABE WAKE UP! THE MAN, THE MYTH, THE LEGEND COOKED UP SOME NEW OVERANALYZE OF PLANTS! 🗣️🗣️🔥🔥🔥🌱🌱🌱
I really feel like calvary got more screwed over than jester in this video.
3:53 very game breaking indeed
For some reason the faces of the Burdock Batter reminds me of the faces of Rick and Morty
Pike Hoya being kinda op and game breaking(litteraly)
23:07 you know what else is massive?