Why European Cities are Insanely Well Designed

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  • @ArkiveYT
    @ArkiveYT  2 роки тому +79

    I understand there were a lot of mistakes with this video, and I apologize for that. The sources I used for this video had very inaccurate information and I am sorry for that. In the future, I will do a better job verifying the information various sources post online before using it in my videos.

    • @abadyr_
      @abadyr_ 2 роки тому +6

      Despite errors and the fact that you presented possible factors to better walkability as the ultimate/most important reason for it, your video is still worthwhile. And this comment is a great sign for the future of your channel, and of its quality.
      I'd say simply listing your sources in the description might encourage you to "investigate" them, and thus enrich and nuance your analysis.
      In any case, it would definitely make it easier for your viewers to dig deeper in the subjects you present.

    • @ArkiveYT
      @ArkiveYT  2 роки тому +6

      @@abadyr_ Thanks I appreciate it. I will work on developing a way to organize the sources I use to research for my videos and allow my viewers to access them.

    • @thedamntrain
      @thedamntrain 2 роки тому +8

      Then maybe your should reupload this video and fix the mistakes? You know, most people will not see this comment of yours

    • @jerbs5346
      @jerbs5346 2 роки тому +1

      @@ArkiveYT I have a question, do city blocks count as bad design?

    • @itzz.joellfz
      @itzz.joellfz 2 роки тому

      No offense, but if you see, at the minute 3:26, that City Cente are like an square/octagon, similar like american cities, but it's true that some parts is like u said.

  • @vcostaval
    @vcostaval 2 роки тому +703

    The grid vs. radial planning comparison makes no sense. I mean, NY is used as an example in the video and it was designed as a grid way before cars were even invented. Barcelona on the other hand is also a grid throughout almost the whole city and is one of the most walkable cities in the world. The grid city in Europe actually goes back to the Roman Empire, way before US cities were a thing, as they built cities in a grid pattern similar to their military camps, but it was kinda lost during the middle ages and beyond.
    In fact, usually the most walkable, vibrant and economically active neighborhoods in US cities are exactly where the grids are, as they commonly are the oldest parts of the cities, while the rest is suburbs (which is what should be pointed as why US cities are worst planned than european, not the grid steets).
    Another thing to note is the US cities do not use the grid pattern anymore for over half a century, which means most of US urban areas came after when grid pattern was the norm.
    I think if you want to understand where the urban planning in the US differs from Europe and how it impacts things like walkability etc, you should look at zoning and suburbia, as they are what forbids anything other than a single family homes in a cul de sac to be built in most of US cities, and this complete separation between residential and everything else, with the maze-like street patterns of cul de sacs, stroads and highways, is what kills US cities. In comparison, Europe sees mixed used and multi family homes, be it duplexes, triplexes or 4-6 story buildings, as something desirable, not to be avoided.
    In the end, the older grid neighborhoods are actually where the US cities comes closer to what European cities are like, as they were built before all this zoning and suburbia nonsense

    • @liamlandehag3144
      @liamlandehag3144 2 роки тому +54

      One of the best comments on a video haha

    • @garryferrington811
      @garryferrington811 2 роки тому +16

      I see you've watched Amsterdam videos.

    • @somebonehead
      @somebonehead 2 роки тому +61

      Okay so it wasn't just me then. I felt that this video said a lot of nothing.

    • @aliquewilliams3080
      @aliquewilliams3080 2 роки тому +13

      You beat me to this comment. I found it laughable when he said the grid was designed for cars.

    • @zacoste4831
      @zacoste4831 2 роки тому

      I guess its more correlation and not causation

  • @GuidenYT
    @GuidenYT 2 роки тому +504

    The more I see how pedestrian friendly I see European cities are the more jealous I become.

    • @VeeTHis
      @VeeTHis 2 роки тому +23

      The Netherlands is #1 on my list of countries to visit (and possibly move to) because of that. It has to be one of the most pedestrian and bike friendly countries in Europe.

    • @hellothere3693
      @hellothere3693 2 роки тому +2

      @@VeeTHis yeah

    • @alecvip7562
      @alecvip7562 2 роки тому +2

      @@VeeTHis it's the place I want to move to when I can.

    • @Insightmovieflix
      @Insightmovieflix 2 роки тому +6

      I can walk to work. Big flex i know.

    • @augth
      @augth 2 роки тому +5

      @@VeeTHis honestly it’s so bike friendly that it decreases pedestrian friendliness in my experience

  • @hubertwierzynski
    @hubertwierzynski 2 роки тому +118

    1:52 "In cities such as Paris and Denmark" - Wow! Impressive research.

    • @ArkiveYT
      @ArkiveYT  2 роки тому +23

      There was a mistake here and I apologize. I meant to say "In cities such as Paris and 𝗶𝗻 Denmark"

    • @arolemaprarath6615
      @arolemaprarath6615 2 роки тому +7

      @@ArkiveYT by the way, New York was designed by Europeans 🇪🇺
      Did you forgot that US was a British colony? It means, US is copy of Europe

    • @sylviarohge4204
      @sylviarohge4204 2 роки тому +2

      @@ArkiveYT
      Many European cities have grown like trees.
      In many cities, the constructions, road courses and road widths as well as the dimensions of the houses/parcels correspond to "the conditions and needs prevailing at the start of construction".
      Many cities in Europe still show this growth pattern, at the beginning of the city often more winding and oriented towards central points (e.g. market squares and churches), in later construction and planning phases (over centuries) with newer and adapted to the needs of the time and construction planning.
      Also, many cities after the Second World War did not start a complete reconstruction of their infrastructure but tried to rebuild what was destroyed.
      After World War II, many cities in Europe had a chance to become what many US cities are today.
      However, the residents did not want this.
      Also, many US cities looked different up until the 1940s than they do today.
      From around the 1950s, entire city districts were leveled and redesigned in the USA, in the sense of modern use (cars).

    • @rochitgurung9090
      @rochitgurung9090 9 місяців тому

      @@arolemaprarath6615 lol they looked better before the second world war

    • @fiof
      @fiof 3 місяці тому

      🤣

  • @miguesilva_o_tolo
    @miguesilva_o_tolo 2 роки тому +193

    You basically stereotyped the Europeans with the French example. I'm from Portugal and our policies don't help farmers keeping their lands instead of selling it to huge developers. What happens here is just the opposite. This is just an example but shows how you have to be careful by stereotyping.

    • @aliquewilliams3080
      @aliquewilliams3080 2 роки тому +13

      It was an overall terrible video. He does have good video editing skills though.

    • @gamermapper
      @gamermapper 2 роки тому +6

      For most people unfortunately, Europe is just Western Europe, and America is just the USA (excluding Latin and South America which are literally a part of America)

    • @Duck-wc9de
      @Duck-wc9de 2 роки тому +3

      As politicas urbanisticas portuguesas foram um desastre nos anos 80-90. Lisboa foi a cidade mais afetada.
      Também não podemos esquecer outras politicas desastrosas como o encerramento massivo de ferrovia, o fim dos elétricos de Braga e coimbra e a decadencia dos trasportes públicos no porto em nome do automóvel, a criação de grandes áreas suburbanas no conselho da Amadora e Odivelas que não passam de dormitórios.
      Para não falar das politicas centenárias, que levaram à criação de pequenas vilas separadas a curtas distâncias, com um uso de terra terrivelmente ineficiente, mas sem gerar nenhuma área urbana mensurável para criar atividade económica substancial. (por essa razão, passear no distrito de viseu pode ser bonito, mas ao mesmo tempo, entristecedor)

  • @niclasd.
    @niclasd. 2 роки тому +283

    The reason that European cities are better designed is not that they don't use the gridsystem. Reasons why Europe is better are:
    -better infrastructure for bikes and pedestrians
    -good public transit
    -mixed Zoning
    -Cities are much denser (less detached houses), unlike suburbs in America
    It is also not true that European streets are often build with radial design. I'm European and I have rarely ever seen something like this.

    • @liamlandehag3144
      @liamlandehag3144 2 роки тому +25

      True and european cities have also grid system such as, Barcelona And Stockholm

    • @baldee2397
      @baldee2397 2 роки тому +27

      And we don't have parking lot taking up space everywhere

    • @chrispopovich700
      @chrispopovich700 2 роки тому +3

      Most of this stems from the fact that European countries are much smaller than America

    • @mardiffv.8775
      @mardiffv.8775 2 роки тому +4

      I agree with everything your said, Niclas. I live in the Netherlands. 80 % of the people live in row houses with gardens. That is amazing since the Netherlands it the most densely population country of Europe. We kept our houses and gardens small, no big front yards. New houses are 3 to 4 stories high, to save space.
      American houses are double if not triple the space.

    • @SamsungS23Ultr
      @SamsungS23Ultr 2 роки тому +5

      @@chrispopovich700 Compare Chicago to Paris. New York to London. Moscow to LA. The European cities listed are all bigger than their American counterparts except New York, AND function better.

  • @ElsenyoPol
    @ElsenyoPol 2 роки тому +122

    Narrator: European cities did not use the grid plan
    Me, a catalan: **laughs in Barcelona’s Ildefons Cerdà plan** (Literally the creator of the term “urbanism”)
    (Also, WTF? The grid plan is an invention of the Roman Empire, any city founded by the romans two milena ago used the grid plan, and you can still see that in old city centers all across Southern Europe)

    • @onlyinbritishcolumbia5262
      @onlyinbritishcolumbia5262 2 роки тому

      Gotta see Amsterdams plans to transform it into the next Dubai.

    • @patrickwuthrich8240
      @patrickwuthrich8240 Рік тому

      I would like to add a few things. If I remeber correctly the romans built the walls first, then they constructed the roads (always two main roads that cross each other in the middle and thus forming a cross shape) and then they designed the insulae (the term island comes from this word), basically squares that would be filled with buildings (rich people would own a whole insula and the just build one big building while in many insulas there were many buildings with multiple floors in which the poor people lived). Correct me if I'm wrong tho.

  • @TrustInTheShepherd
    @TrustInTheShepherd 2 роки тому +30

    US cities were bulldozed for the car, not designed for the car. Even with the grid system you can easily make it work.
    Just block of some roads, centre to suburbs make these pedestrian and cycle roads. Side streets closed for cars to, think like 5 to 10 side streets closed before hitting an intersection. Easy, you only need to want it.

    • @TalesOfWar
      @TalesOfWar 2 роки тому +1

      The Spanish super blocks are a good example of this.

  • @jan-lukas
    @jan-lukas 2 роки тому +73

    "European cities had a different look at city planning" you missed one of the most important differences: most European cities old, and the older something gets, the less planned it is. When it's first built every city is kinda planned, but over the years so much has changed in European cities that I wouldn't call much of it planned anymore

    • @sylviarohge4204
      @sylviarohge4204 2 роки тому +7

      A lot was planned.
      However, over the decades and centuries use, population and means of transport have changed.
      The cities have adapted comparatively little (viewed from the center outwards).
      The growth stages appear more like "tree rings".
      The oldest and often most crooked parts in the center, becoming "more modern" or more spacious towards the outside.
      Many cities have not, so to speak, erased their history of growth through large-scale demolition and complete new construction/new planning.

    • @magicabulla9687
      @magicabulla9687 11 місяців тому

      as if we in Europe don't know what the demolition of buildings is. if a place becomes cumbersome or useless because there are old buildings" which doesn't happen because every building inside can be modified by creating shopping centers on different buildings *Venice*"then come demolished we don't need every old building

    • @redburningice
      @redburningice 5 місяців тому

      @@sylviarohge4204 I really like your tree trings analogy, thanks for that!

  • @Ulysses_S_Grant_18
    @Ulysses_S_Grant_18 2 роки тому +45

    -London wasn't planned (it's a mess of roads built by different people)
    -Lots of European cities are grids , they're just designed well with grids
    - that is no wear close to how you pronounce champs Elysées

    • @gigiatlas2364
      @gigiatlas2364 9 місяців тому +1

      And that is nowhere close to how it's spelled! Have a look in the mirror before criticizing

    • @harmabeimhungry
      @harmabeimhungry 27 днів тому

      @@gigiatlas2364 lmao

  • @pimpnamedslickback7780
    @pimpnamedslickback7780 2 роки тому +28

    NYCs grid was designed in 1811. Well over a century before cars

    • @UlliStein
      @UlliStein Рік тому

      Coming from Germany and having visited Manhattan this year, I loved the way every address can be found easily because of the coordinates.
      Great idea!

  • @CK-wv7gf
    @CK-wv7gf 2 роки тому +43

    Dude you limited your whole research to Paris. Paris is very different than most European cities and is far from organic in its design. Do proper research and don’t stereotype European cities as Paris. And NYC is among the most walkable cities in the US, so you’re actually weakening your argument quite a bit.

    • @casbrowne9055
      @casbrowne9055 Рік тому

      He could have used Houston or Los Angeles

  • @SotonyaAcckaya
    @SotonyaAcckaya 2 роки тому +68

    You should check your biases and consider that grid method is at least 4000 years older than cars . It was the way at least some ancient cities was built. Also there lots of European cities that are build by grid method at least in some part (like Vasilievsky island in St. Petersburg, that was like Russian Manhattan in 18 century (while other parts of the city was build radially). Even American grids was in place prior to cars adoption.
    I mean why do you even want grids if you design with cars in mind? Too much intersections will slow down traffic compared with longer stretches of radial main streets. if anything, grid design was perfect for street cars and optimizing density.

  • @gerdpfitzenmayer7021
    @gerdpfitzenmayer7021 2 роки тому +13

    Denmark is NOT a City, it's a COUNTRY!!

    • @adamb8317
      @adamb8317 19 днів тому

      it has the population of a city 😂

  • @es3359
    @es3359 2 роки тому +12

    Gridded cities were not designed for cars - they were designed initially for horse and buggies but primarily for streetcars and efficient public transit networks. Cars didn’t exist when most gridded cities were planned in the 1800s, but you are correct that they were used to maximize space. Gridded cities are not bad, nor are they a death knell for sustainability or walkability. While they do lack a certain human scaled aspect, making these spaces livable comes down to encouraging granularity in the planning/construction of new buildings and ensuring that public transit and active transportation are given the lion’s share of street space.

  • @cardenasr.2898
    @cardenasr.2898 2 роки тому +23

    I think you have a US-centered view as well as an anti-car bias, grids have been used in many regions of the world (Asia, Europe, Latin America) for centuries before cars even existed, and they aren't necessarily hostile to pedestrians. Most Mexican cities have a historic center based on a grid, and they are dense, bustling and very walkable parts of town, because when they were built everything had to be reachable by walking distance.
    I think it has to do more with patterns of property and government intervention, as cities in the New World were built from scratch, with the convenience of simple plot structure in mind, because they needed to distribute land among settlers without complication. In cities founded by the Spaniards, it was a tradition to place a square in the center, surrounded by government and church buildings, in case they needed to defend the town they would summon all troops to the square (which was named plaza de armas, or square of arms). Another advantage is that the grid allowed for easy growth to every direction if the terrain allowed it.
    In contrast, European cities were built in the middle ages, where central government authority was weaker or non-existent, so there was no predefined way to build a city, and towns then grew along the roads that led out of the city or near centers of resources "organically", hence the irregular layout.

    • @TalesOfWar
      @TalesOfWar 2 роки тому +1

      The Romans are especially known for their love of grids.

  • @pastrana21
    @pastrana21 3 місяці тому +2

    being an expat that has lived in europe/uk for a decade now, I have long seen a problem with the way american cities have been designed. Designing cities for vehicles is not only bad for the environment, but bad for peoples' health when you in america have to literally drive everywhere for anything. In Europe/UK public transit is so good compared to terrible public transit in the UK, you are able to easily get about and walk to many destinations. Also because of the way cities are deisigned in Europe/UK, you are able to see a lot more parks than in the states which easily gives you a feel of less congenstion etc.

  • @OldieBugger
    @OldieBugger 2 роки тому +8

    My hometown (Turku, Finland) is based on a grid. That's because the whole city burned down (except for the cathedral) in 1827. Then it was rebuilt on a grid for fire safety in mind. Not a north-south-east-west grid, of course. The grid is aligned on the river that flows through the town.

  • @adam2956
    @adam2956 2 роки тому +4

    This is a huge generalisation. Also you called the country Denmark a city..

  • @nickfielding5685
    @nickfielding5685 Рік тому +7

    American city where demolitions for cars. Not build for cars

  • @TS-ib9ll
    @TS-ib9ll 2 роки тому +4

    00:07
    That is incorrect. Even cities like New York were not built car-centric. They were later rebuilt for cars. (60s - apparently today because highways continue to get wider)

  • @Kevbot6000
    @Kevbot6000 7 місяців тому +2

    I stopped taking the video seriously when it said New York, a city designed in the 17th and 18th centuries and where over half of the residents take public transit, was designed for the automobile.
    You can make the argument that the grid system was a lot easier to adapt to the automobile, but in no way was New York designed for it.

  • @JJ-si4qh
    @JJ-si4qh 2 роки тому +11

    Grid plan was to make things easy to navigate. Boston is an example of a European style city and it is near impossible to navigate for non-residents

    • @antoinemozart243
      @antoinemozart243 2 роки тому +2

      Boston , with Washington DC or Savannah are exceptions. I think Boston is the most european city of the US !

  • @Physicalchemistry15151
    @Physicalchemistry15151 2 роки тому +4

    This makes no sense. Cities like Melbourne and Vancouver follow the grid layout and are consistently ranked as the worlds most live able cities. Often land use tends to be what makes a city well designed ie, space for roads vs shopping streets. Not the layout

  • @indisciipline
    @indisciipline 2 роки тому +6

    But… American grids existed before cars were even a concept?

  • @lunaris7235
    @lunaris7235 2 роки тому +3

    American Cities weren't designed for the car, they were destroyed for the car. The US used the grid plan way more than 100 years before the invention of the car, and there were more than 50 cities larger than 100k inhabitants even before the car was a thing. And where did you get the weird claim that they were designed for "profitability"?

  • @Mr.Loewenzahn
    @Mr.Loewenzahn 2 роки тому +2

    Great Video. Please keep on going :D

  • @liamlandehag3144
    @liamlandehag3144 2 роки тому +12

    Controvercy though but i think the grid system and straight roads are a good way to plan a city

    • @liamlandehag3144
      @liamlandehag3144 2 роки тому

      Ps New Yorks grid system is an older city plan than for the mayorety of Paris city plan

    • @LouisChang-le7xo
      @LouisChang-le7xo 6 місяців тому +1

      with high frequency intersections to slow down cars like philly not salt lake city

  • @hyojinchoii
    @hyojinchoii 2 роки тому +9

    D.C. is an example of a radial city in the US . It was designed by Pierre Charles L'Efant, after the gardens of Versailles

    • @gamermapper
      @gamermapper 2 роки тому +2

      Why do Americans use the official name and not just say Washington City? Technically it is a federal District but in Mexico no one calls Mexico City "District federal"

    • @hyojinchoii
      @hyojinchoii 2 роки тому

      @@gamermapper The city is named Washington, D.C. or the District of Columbia (The official name). I believe they're interchangeable. At least it is for me as a DMV native. As for why, I suppose Washington, the District of Columbia is a bit wordy. I hope that helps :)

    • @davisdavis468
      @davisdavis468 2 роки тому +2

      @@gamermapper Theres like 100 places called Washington in the US, including a whole state on the other side of the country, so people try to be as clear as possible, or not say it at all. Which is one of the reasons most people just say (D.C.), also because its quicker to say.

    • @davisdavis468
      @davisdavis468 2 роки тому +2

      @@hyojinchoii Aye another DMV native. For added clarity I also wanna add that originally there was a Washington City within the federal district, as well as a couple other cities/towns like Georgetown. Washington City borders only included what is today downtown DC. The Organic Act of 1871 combined all the existing municipal governments within the federal district under one, which made all of the land "Washington, DC" and allowed the city to grow, making Washington and DC geographically interchangeable. Technically yeah theres no purpose to both parts of the name but its a historical quirk.

    • @hyojinchoii
      @hyojinchoii 2 роки тому +1

      @@davisdavis468 Also I think so addresses makes sense. That way there's a City (Washington)and what would normally be a state (District of Columbia)

  • @fatalvampire
    @fatalvampire 2 роки тому +5

    Grids have existed since ancient times. Ancient Egyptians used their own grid system when planning cities, for example. Americans did not create the grid.

  • @NileshPatel-cu7tq
    @NileshPatel-cu7tq 2 роки тому +5

    You've butchered the pronunciation of Champs-Élysées 2:38. You also didn't mention the outlier of Washington DC, one of the only cities in the U.S. that was radially designed.

    • @TalesOfWar
      @TalesOfWar 2 роки тому +1

      Somewhat fittingly, by the French lol.

  • @ImRezaF
    @ImRezaF 11 місяців тому +1

    "Grid cities are designed for cars"
    [Citation needed]

  • @slurpii4669
    @slurpii4669 2 роки тому +13

    I see nothing wrong with new york's design, its actually better designed than london (both cities have a huge traffic problem)because both cities have almost the same population but new york is smaller than London, since Europe doesn't build a lot of skyscrapers the cities keep expanding over time damaging the environment.
    In my opinion the best designed country is japan with a population of of 125 million and 68.5 % of forest area, if that's not a well designed country then i dont know what that is

  • @fpschannel2616
    @fpschannel2616 2 роки тому +3

    3:22 Bangkok my mothercity, I really appreciate all the detail you‘ve put into, despite the fact that Bangkok is the only asian city has been shown in this video.

    • @myra8158
      @myra8158 2 роки тому

      I literally thought that was in magallanes Avenue in Manila.

    • @marcfize6638
      @marcfize6638 2 роки тому

      I saw also Hong Kong

  • @manferni
    @manferni 2 роки тому +1

    Actually, grid cities weren't build for cars, in my country for example, Colombia, and in general in the Spanish America, Spanish conquistadors build grid cities 300 plus years before cars existed, it was a city design completely oposed to Spanish or European medieval city design. But those were the first grid modern cities. If I'm not mistaken, Mayans and Aztecs also built grid cities. As much as you people like all that "American exceptionalism" bs, Americans didn't invent the grid city.
    The problem with U.S cities is not that they are gridded, the problem is that the U.S manage to become a car centric society in the XX century, and is understandable, the car was an American invention, but that doesn't have to do with the grid, Europe was incredible car centric too after WWII, because it was the U.S the one who helped rebuild western Europe, and it was the American way the one that imposed itself after the war, but Europeans restarted changing their car centrism from around the 70s or 80s.

  • @fiof
    @fiof 3 місяці тому

    I'm glad the comments are paving the way by pointing out all the potholes in this urban planning video!

  • @francescogiovannizollo
    @francescogiovannizollo 2 роки тому +3

    Actually, also the grid method comes from Europe. It was invented by Ancient Romans to build their military camps, called “castra”, and there are a bunch of cities in Europe which still follow this ancient plan like Turin, Italy

  • @charlesgallagher1376
    @charlesgallagher1376 2 роки тому +3

    My hometown, Buffalo,NY was designed with the radial spoke design. It makes for some interesting building designs.

  • @ErdTirdMans
    @ErdTirdMans 2 роки тому +2

    This video is so bad for so many reasons, I've drafted 3 different comments to try and begin to address them and ultimately just decided I don't have the time. I love urban design and city planning channels. Please do better

  • @ijulesy
    @ijulesy 2 роки тому +3

    Another awesome video! I love the utilisation of the satellite imagery from Google maps/Earth!

  • @Adrenaline_chaser
    @Adrenaline_chaser 2 роки тому +3

    1:55 "in cities like Paris and *DeNmArk* "?! Denmark is a nation in Europe, with its capital being Copenhagen

    • @ArkiveYT
      @ArkiveYT  2 роки тому +1

      There was a mistake here and I apologize. I meant to say "In cities such as Paris and 𝗶𝗻 Denmark"

    • @jehib8533
      @jehib8533 2 роки тому

      @@ArkiveYT There were actually quite a lot of mistakes. This one is actually the least important when the whole premise of your video is wrong and the examples that you use are not supporting your point.

  • @user-ts6pr5tb2j
    @user-ts6pr5tb2j 2 роки тому +2

    Do you write scripts yourself or you have writer? They are really amazing in all the videos.

    • @ArkiveYT
      @ArkiveYT  2 роки тому +2

      Thanks :)
      I write the scripts, edit the videos, and do the voice-over.

    • @user-ts6pr5tb2j
      @user-ts6pr5tb2j 2 роки тому +1

      @@ArkiveYT that seems to be a lot of work. How much time does script take? I assume it must be hardest and most time consuming.

    • @ArkiveYT
      @ArkiveYT  2 роки тому +1

      @@user-ts6pr5tb2j It really depends on the topic. I would like to publish one video every week but the script writing by far takes the longest.

    • @user-ts6pr5tb2j
      @user-ts6pr5tb2j 2 роки тому

      @@ArkiveYT still how long does it take to get a script done on an average? And are you to investment or partnership on your channel?

  • @lef1009
    @lef1009 2 роки тому +2

    "Europe are well designed"
    Balkans and Eastern slavs:

  • @mygetaway4950
    @mygetaway4950 2 роки тому +2

    It's not true that Europe doesn't use grid city planning. The grid actually harkens back to a Roman military building method in which two main roads would intersect and many paralallel lines would follow each. Today you can see many Roman cities which were initially born as military encampments which have the grid. Similarly, cities built in the neoclassical age, also have a grid inspired by roman designs. Many example are in southeastern Sicily, where at the end of the 17th century a massive earthquake destroyed many old settlements and cities were rebuilt with an almost perfect grid.

  • @DengueBurger
    @DengueBurger 2 роки тому +3

    Actually, European cities aren’t just like that because they’re older. Plenty of European cities were going to try the post-WWII American way of urban sprawl, but grassroots protests stopped a lot of them. Some cities did get partially torn down for highways, though.
    It was also a choice on the part of American people. American cities used to be more pedestrian friendly when we relied primarily on rail to travel and build this country.

    • @TalesOfWar
      @TalesOfWar 2 роки тому

      Places like Coventry and Glasgow in the UK are good examples of cities partially demolished for the car. Then there's Milton Keynes which is a brand new city planned and built after the war with a huge emphasis on the car.

  • @peterbound2119
    @peterbound2119 2 роки тому +1

    'For example cities like Paris or Denmark' LOOOOOOL

  • @userminer2280
    @userminer2280 Рік тому +1

    Bikes also drive next to cars. in eu btw

  • @sierranexi
    @sierranexi 2 роки тому +1

    Misleading video title. You didn't describe why Paris is designed insanely well.

  • @HowtoBuildtheWorld
    @HowtoBuildtheWorld 2 роки тому +10

    This is a great video! Very nice touch in illustrating the difference between grid and radial. Though, I would like to point out a couple of things between American and European city layouts. Old cities from both continents were originally designed with walking (ex. new york and paris) But the biggest difference is that paris and other old European cities were expanded out organically over houndres or thousands. And for American cities, since America was young, common planning practice was designing everything in a grid (because of the access and commerciability like you stated), and this was common practice across cultures especial through colonial and new world expansions in every western culture :0 However, the largest impact in how cities were designed today was because of the 20th century. The US saw the car and was like, 'this is all we are going to design with', while Europeans tried the car-centric designs too during this time. But Europe realized sooner than the US that cars are not what cities needed and during the 70s, 80s, and 90s transformed their cities with walkability and transit 😎

    • @HowtoBuildtheWorld
      @HowtoBuildtheWorld 2 роки тому

      The US can be very walkable in their older cities but us Americans love our cars too much T_T

  • @jeomirit
    @jeomirit 2 роки тому +4

    It takes a lot time to drive in American cities. In European cities, for example London or Moscow, it's so easy to go almost anywhere, because there's more roads and and they're not exactly straight

    • @jesielcruz3412
      @jesielcruz3412 2 роки тому +4

      Bruh London is the most congested city in the world

  • @matthewboyd8689
    @matthewboyd8689 11 місяців тому +1

    Options
    The grid but low density
    Spaghetti inefficient layout, but mid-rise density to make up for inefficiency, and human scale (feels good to walk, grids feel slower and boring)

  • @samihamid6074
    @samihamid6074 2 роки тому +1

    There isnt a decline in people moving away from cities, theres an increase. Not sure where you got that fact from.

  • @veneneify
    @veneneify Рік тому +1

    Your video is extremely misleading. New York City has 1,350 miles of bike lanes while Paris has only 430 mil. I don't understand why you want to make it seem like NYC is not bike friendly.

  • @_benplayle
    @_benplayle 2 роки тому +4

    cities such as paris and denmark.

    • @ArkiveYT
      @ArkiveYT  2 роки тому

      There was a mistake here and I apologize. I meant to say "In cities such as Paris and 𝗶𝗻 Denmark"

  • @vladnickul
    @vladnickul 2 роки тому +2

    The euopean cities find growing, much. much harder...
    and the traffic in them is again much much worse.
    The grid sistem is superior if smaller grids are subdivided and have their own shopping/entertainment/education centers and yes, more, much more green space/parks.
    The future is probably a mix of them and belt road plus public transport. (... what americans fear the most :)) )

  • @jorgecuevas8843
    @jorgecuevas8843 2 роки тому +6

    Most european cities were founded before Cars, so streets don't have to be that straight forward, and there are not a lot of Grand highways.
    I love that about European cities, they are sooo aesthetic.
    Viena, Oporto and Hamburg are my favourites.

  • @therealscottadamsTM
    @therealscottadamsTM Місяць тому

    The argument that city layouts (concentric vs grid) explain the difference in car dependency between European and US cities oversimplifies history and ignores key factors. Many US cities were originally designed around rail systems, like trams and intercity trains, and it was only in the mid-20th century that car companies lobbied to replace these with highways.
    Additionally, Europe has plenty of grid cities, such as Barcelona and Mannheim, that function without being car-dependent. Amsterdam's 1970s transformation also proves that urban design is flexible, not fixed by its historical layout.

  • @jimbo1637
    @jimbo1637 2 роки тому +3

    My biggest issue with radial cities is the hierarchical feeling between the (generally) rich old central city and the not as rich outer newer parts of the city. Grid cites have a built environment that feels much more equal.

  • @carfreeneoliberalgeorgisty5102
    @carfreeneoliberalgeorgisty5102 2 роки тому +3

    NYC is famously walkable because of it's narrow street grids. So are cities like Barcelona and the countless other cities that use the grid system. WTF?
    Grid systems are good for commercial and residential uses. So are street patterns like the system that London and Paris use. It is more common to see high levels of pedestrian commercial activity in non North American cities like those in Asia, Latin America, Europe, Africa etc because the street patterns in those areas are more accomodating to commercial businesses. It is the US, Canada, and Australia that are known for strictly segregating residential and commercial land uses and building street patterns like cul de sacs, lollipops, and loops that are hostile to commercial development.
    You should have researched this topic further before making and posting this video. Sincerely a pissed off urban planning student.

  • @DerrickCartercosmostravels
    @DerrickCartercosmostravels 2 роки тому +1

    Love America but i look forward to moving to Paris for school. I personally prefer walking over driving. Its like a form of meditation

  • @WaterLemon147
    @WaterLemon147 2 роки тому +1

    “And you might not see many”
    Meanwhile Barcelona:

  • @mahoRhuarc
    @mahoRhuarc Місяць тому

    another very interesting issue is defence, if looking at infrastructures of conflict ridden lands one will notice that they tend to be shaped to ease the defending forces access to the city boarders faster. this has been the case even in USA if one looks at how the native population build and structured their cities.

  • @garryferrington811
    @garryferrington811 2 роки тому +2

    You need to get better-fitting dentures. Also, lots of American cities weren't designed specifically for the car. LA wasn't designed for the car: most of the San Fernando Valley was. Early 1900's films reveal people walking all over New York City streets. You might want to check out NotJustBikes to get a better overview.

  • @nrnexusrising
    @nrnexusrising 2 роки тому +4

    Not Just Bikes does a much better job of explaining the problems with US and Canadian street design and zoning then this video. Also a channel on Tokyo, whose name I can’t recall, does a good job of explaining why zoning is so critical to how well cities function or don’t. Good city design is not limited to Europe. Why do so many of these vloggers focus on US vs Europe comparisons as if the rest of the world doesn’t exist? Oh wait, I think I know the answer to that.

  • @lilwill06
    @lilwill06 2 роки тому +1

    Older American cities like Philadelphia, New York, Boston and Baltimore are still very walkable. Urban sprawl is the problem not the grid.

  • @Duck-wc9de
    @Duck-wc9de 2 роки тому +1

    Why European Cities are Insanely Well Designed, and like allways, exept portugal and eastern europe

  • @karlrobberts337
    @karlrobberts337 2 роки тому +1

    Cities such as Paris and Denmark?

  • @shubashuba9209
    @shubashuba9209 2 роки тому

    Imagine navigating a city using polar coordinates and needing to learn about radians.

  • @cbsteffen
    @cbsteffen 2 роки тому +2

    European cities are old and therefore were built when the population was much smaller, so back then, people really only needed to walk or ride quadrupeds for transport. American cities are typically modern and therefore grew when the population augmented, and that was also when it was time to invent something that could hold more people and maybe also move faster than a quadruped ever could.

    • @safe-keeper1042
      @safe-keeper1042 Рік тому

      Nope. American cities grew organically just like those in Europe, and the US at one point had the best public transport systems in the world.
      Then the oil and car lobbies had it all torn down for freeways, parking lots, and cars.

  • @AlbanianEmpire897
    @AlbanianEmpire897 2 місяці тому

    As a Southern European i say this actually our continent's cities are older than America's .I love y all❤

  • @AuXXKeyz
    @AuXXKeyz 2 роки тому +1

    Question… how much research do you put before making a video?

  • @inbrrr
    @inbrrr 2 роки тому +2

    Wow dude lots of points missed. Hope you make a revised/better one. Zoning/housing and/or city walkabilty/accessibility are huge factors.
    To anyone who is dissatisfied with the content of this video: Not Just Bikes covers Everything much better.

  • @hugosophy
    @hugosophy 2 роки тому +1

    The cities of Paris and Denmark?

  • @LouisChang-le7xo
    @LouisChang-le7xo 6 місяців тому

    The thing about the grid plan is that it existed wayyyyy before cars and was actually built for streetcars. The problem is not grids, its cars
    bro sounds like obf and cheddar combined

  • @andypandy00011
    @andypandy00011 2 роки тому +1

    Why do you call US cities American cities and why do you call the US america ? It is very confusing.

  • @leeprice2849
    @leeprice2849 2 роки тому +1

    The Grid plan isn't the problem

  • @tvojemanka
    @tvojemanka 2 роки тому +2

    Bruh Denmark isn't a city, but whatever

    • @ArkiveYT
      @ArkiveYT  2 роки тому

      There was a mistake here and I apologize. I meant to say "In cities such as Paris and 𝗶𝗻 Denmark"

    • @tvojemanka
      @tvojemanka 2 роки тому

      @@ArkiveYT It just triggered me a bit, as a european from a small country, but otherwise great video.

  • @devilpizza123
    @devilpizza123 2 роки тому +3

    This video is quite poorly researched. London wasn't even a planned city. It's layout sprung up organically over time as the city grew.
    Grids have a much greater benefit in the modern era due to how much easier way finding is for people who are not familiar with the area.

  • @dudoklasovity2093
    @dudoklasovity2093 Рік тому

    In most of America, pedestrians or cyclists are second class citizens. If one does not spend $$$ on gas, registration, insurance, maintenance of car, the government treats him as inferior human being. Hence they have no priorities to build infrastructure for these groups of population. In America, it’s about $$$, not about making life of people healthier or more convenient or less stressful.

  • @pugswillfly3211
    @pugswillfly3211 2 роки тому

    I think that its mainly that european cities are on average not just ‘built’. Theyve evolved over centuries and in some cases millennium’s. Whereas major US cities were built in an already highly industrialised world, and were built over 2 or one century, which meant that standardised layouts already existed and were implemented from the start.

  • @KochoStojank0v
    @KochoStojank0v Рік тому

    Us cities are based on math notebooks

  • @IIXRATEDIIHiTMAN
    @IIXRATEDIIHiTMAN 2 роки тому

    I live in Milan and haven't owned a car in years. I walk to work, walk to the shops, occasionally take the metro for a night out... American zoning laws are horrible

  • @mike09
    @mike09 2 роки тому

    1:52 "European cities such as Paris and Danemark" Denmark is not a city, tho

  • @Edwinbraun20
    @Edwinbraun20 2 роки тому

    I like to live in city close to others people but it’s expensive.
    Property price is the one that turns many people off when deciding where to live.
    Meaningless office jobs and high rental prices doesn’t help city growth much.

  • @mikeifyouplease
    @mikeifyouplease 2 роки тому

    But couldn't you say that in many ways (Paris excepted) that old cities had no planning and just grew haphazardly, while American cities (for better or worse) had a road plan
    pretty much from the beginning?

  • @matthewluck9077
    @matthewluck9077 2 роки тому

    cities such as paris and denmark?

  • @geraldselvey7687
    @geraldselvey7687 2 роки тому

    America has neighbourhoods where people walk everywhere and live close together. They are called ghettos in Chicago or in NYC the Bronx!!

  • @StevDoesBigJumps
    @StevDoesBigJumps 2 роки тому

    Dude, we have heaps of microgrids in european cities, but they're broken up into neighbourhoods that are small compared to us neighbourhoods.

  • @slysnake5617
    @slysnake5617 Рік тому

    Grids have no bearing on walkabilty and your example of the few intersections on the champs élysées is an example of something that is bad for walkabilty because it speeds cars up.

  • @joe_lubinda
    @joe_lubinda 2 роки тому

    It's a privilege to live in Europe. This place was copied after heaven.

  • @nickyscriptzworld
    @nickyscriptzworld 2 роки тому

    what if we combined both methods??🤔🤔

  • @unrealisticfiction4182
    @unrealisticfiction4182 2 роки тому +1

    new yorks grid plan was made 200 years before car were invented, how tf was it designed for cars? you should use different examples because new york is one of the least car dependant cities in the us.

  • @werinter
    @werinter 2 роки тому

    The main difference between american and european cities is their age. Cities started to develop in europe in the middle ages or even further in the past. Back in the day city design followed the terrain patterns so that's why most european cities don't have the grid system. But! If you zoom into them, you can see the newly built parts of cities or even villages, almost all of them use the grid pattern. And the other thing is because of age, european cities went through a natural developing progress, and adapted to the actual needs of a certain era. So all in all, american settlements are the result of an artifical planning, while old european cities are mostly developed naturally.

    • @MrToradragon
      @MrToradragon 2 роки тому +1

      Even the old parts have some sort of grid pattern, but it is not straight, but crooked.

    • @davisdavis468
      @davisdavis468 2 роки тому

      There were ancient and old planned cities though, some of whom had grids. Also ironically the US had opposite trends in new development as newer developments dont tend to use grid patterns (see the suburbs), whereas the older (yet still planned) cities used grids. Obviously grids = planned settlement, but i don't think age is as significant as a factor.

    • @werinter
      @werinter 2 роки тому

      ​@@davisdavis468 "i don't think age is as significant as a factor" It is. From the shape of a settlement (especially smaller villages) you can determine it's age, stages of developement and even it's functions. In my country, villages with only one street (road) are very common thing. And there is a special form of these villages: only one road but with a widening in the middle of the street. Most of the villages shaped like this are actually the oldest villages, date back to more than 1000 years.

  • @catoflado4977
    @catoflado4977 2 роки тому

    Here where I live, in Paraná Brazil, some cities like mine (Cianorte) are radial cities inspired by the garden cities of Ebenezer Howard. You dont need to Go to Europe to see better city plans than USA..

  • @ranger13k
    @ranger13k 6 місяців тому

    Still waiting for the part - "why european cities are insanely well designed".
    Isn't it just a comparison b/w grid and less-grid (radial) planning?
    Elements that make a well-planned city imo:
    1. Accessibility - for people (cars, bikes, bicycles, wheelchairs, etc.) to the places they wanna be at (workplaces, shops, schools, hospitals, houses (duh)).
    2. Desiribility - for businesses (footfall), for communities (quality time and a good childhood for families, socialization for friends, training and support for sports...)
    3. Reliability - utility services, transportation, food sources (x-marts, grocers), climate (control/adaptability), crime (to not happen)
    At the end of the day its all about compromises. From this video I understood that people compromise on distance to their desired destination because they have cars, people compromise on not having a car because they can access their destination in other ways. What makes them wanna go there though AND accept that compromise is a list of pros and cons of not living in that city. The pros outweigh the cons. If only you gave the pros, I'd have understood "why european cities are insanely well designed".

  • @ttvrs1059
    @ttvrs1059 2 роки тому +2

    Why are European cities insanely well designed?
    Well to answer your question in a very short and somewhat simplistic fashion, it's because they grew organically and urban planning came at a later stage to optimize what was already working.
    Also, you should really do a bit more research because many affirmations you put forward are simply false - radial cities in Europe (by the way, Denmark is a country), number of intersections in great axes, land use laws, etc, etc...

  • @yoongishadow2201
    @yoongishadow2201 2 роки тому

    2:38 ah yes the ChamPS-uh-leeSAYS

  • @gamermapper
    @gamermapper 2 роки тому

    Europe included Western Europe, but most of those analysis always ignore them. Also, America includes South America and not only North America (USA and Canada). So it's better to say that you're comparing Western Europe to North America than just Europe to America.

  • @janhansen554
    @janhansen554 Рік тому

    U forget one vital difference. Cities like London, Paris and Berlin didnt start as mass populations at all in the beginning. They were maybe 100 people in these cities as start, and it took many hundreds of years before they reach 10 000. Then hundreds a years to reach 1 million. Comparason to american Cities like New York who gain this populations in matter of very few years. If New York had been develop as a city in europe it would never worked at all and u would got a very strange city.

  • @fortheloveofmusic860
    @fortheloveofmusic860 Рік тому

    Age hasn't anything to do with city design. It's all to do with willingness. America had cities before there were cars. European cities were at the same point as American cities, are we going "car" or "walkability". Europe in general went with walkability. At the same time they went against urban sprawl and weren't held back by zoning laws like the US has.