@@ZeroTailpipe, Yes, 2 man job - or 2 long arms job :D. And by the way, you don't need to take out the plastic tray, you can just pull that cable through the hole. (pull slightly away from the charge port, not straight up). Also, was wondering what happens if you select N, while driving. You didn't show that option :D
I have just bought my first EV, a 2016 ioniq 28kwh,with 85000 miles on the clock. It's fabulous, I'm getting 5.8mpkwh from it, range this morning after charging on the granny cable shows 138 miles. No sign of battery degradation. But the granny cable is proving reluctant to release, so I wanted to say how helpful this video was, showing how to use the emergency release. Many thanks!
My Ioniq on ship from Sth Korea. I would suspect the Plug lock release is only valid if the lock has electrical failure. If the lock is powered, it is locked. if the lock is not powered, the unlocked, normal state, but the mechanism is stuck, the cable will release mechanical part. In other words, you are fighting the active solenoid.
@@ZeroTailpipe I have been told sometime in April. I ordered it at the end of January. EVs are not common in Australia. For example, I believe there is only 40 Teslas in my state, Western Australia. I do find your videos interesting particularly the winter ones as it rarely gets below 10C here in WA. Mind you we have the occasional 40C day here! This was one of the factors of choosing the Ioniq over the Leaf, battery temperature management. Thanks once again for your great videos.
Thank you, Mr Zero Tailpipe, for another great video! In the beginning of my Ioniq ownership, I "had" to release the cable by pulling the emergency tag (I didn't know that the charging cable re-locks itself to the port a few seconds after unlocking the car... SMH), I managed to release the cable by pulling the release tag as strong as I could (not advisable)... I think the idea from Richard Servello here is probably the right one (to pull it for 5 seconds - thank you, Mr Richard)... Otherwise, thanks especially for the last test... Several times, I had to charge on the public chargers in the pouring rain, and was always scared that there'd be a short circuit because of all the water... still, I have a microfibre cloth for wiping the water out after each "rainy" charging... Greetings from Slovenia!
Thanks! P.S. Looking closely at the charge port I think there’s another drain hole by the bottom two DC pins, for extra safety too, in wet conditions... I’ll check again... :)
@@ZeroTailpipe Yes you do need to pull the plug out while pulling the cable. It can just about be done by your self but is a lot easier with two people. I found out the hard way as our car was one of the early ones that had a faulty charge port release. It is very stiff and it feels like it is going to break.
I think you were pulling it twice, with two clicks. So maybe the first click unlocked it and the second click locked it. Ps I’ve had my ioniq in Australia (the first in queensland) for 8 days now 💙🚙. Your videos have told me so much more that the car can do than I could have found out by myself. Thanks you!
Test number 1 should be a Desert Heat Test in the Chandler-Phoenix area of Arizona. I have a KIA SOUL EV sister companu to Hyundai. My battery failed after 2 years with a big 50% drop in capacity. The Controller also shut down in hot weather during rush hour traffic. Very scary and unsafe.
Thanks Duncan. Another excellent video and timely as I was wondering the other day what would happen if one of the gear selector buttons were pressed accidentally.
When I got my Ioniq initially there was a problem with the charge port actuator which meant it would often not release the cable using the key and as a result I had to use the mechanical release quite often. The cable release has a weird feel to it where you're not too sure how much force is too much to pull with. I found a technique after a while where I would do a series of short pulls at moderate force after a couple of times I would hear and feel a large pop noise and the cable would then be released. I never found it to re-engage when I used the manual release, but then I think my charge port actuator was all but packed up until I got it replaced.
Gosh. I was lucky in not having that issue. Must have been stressful to use that procedure often. Seriously felt like I was about to break/snap something ;)
@@ZeroTailpipe Yes it was stressful, and that was only half of the problem. The other issue that stemmed from the same problem was that when I plugged in the charging cable the port did not lock it and it would not charge. It caused a problem especially in the early days when I didn't know the car so well and I was trying to do scheduled charging overnight. After a couple of times I learned to listen for the little whirring sound after plugging in the cable. If I didn't hear it I knew it was not going to charge. In those cases, I had to remove the cable, then pop the manual release (with no cable in the port) and then plug the cable again. After I did this I would hear the whirr and knew it would be ok (at least until I had to unplug it !) I got the actuator replaced by my dealer under warranty and haven't had any problems since.
Remember seeing the Ioniq ploughing through the polystyrene myself which was an amusing watch. Was because AEB doesn't activate below a certain speed, think around 20 mph, so it doesn't activate when parking etc.
@@ZeroTailpipe No worries. Note manual says 6 mph, but seems to be faster than this from my experience. As for air bag, there are 2 collision sensors in the bumper, not sure I'd run the risk personally but should be a fair old impact to trigger 😉
I know the emergency brake system brakes for cars but don't know if it brakes for people. Regarding the side mirrors in the "trend" version they do not tilt down when switching to reverse. Think it's a feature only for the Premium version.
I have the premium in Australia (only 8 days though) but I think the mirrors change. I thought it was my imagination at first, now I think you are right, it did it when I put the car in reverse. Another good idea I didn’t know my car would do. 💙🚙
Did you apply the brake pedal while switching gears? Think this would change the results. Hit the reverse once accidentally while braking. Car went into reverse quite harshly. Thanks for your videos!
@@ZeroTailpipe by the way, how's your winter mileage? I'm near Portland, Oregon in the US, so our winter temps usually average in the 40°-50° range (Fahrenheit, of course) with maybe two or three weeks tops in the thirties or below freezing. I try to drive conservatively (I rarely click on the Sport mode), and I use the regenerative braking paddles a great deal. Even so, fully charged, my Ioniq EV reports ranges of about 110 miles. My tires (sorry, tyres 😁) are properly inflated, and...beyond that, I'm at a loss. Any thoughts?
About 120 miles here between -5C to 5C range (23F to 41F) - but this is at a low average speed as I’m not on highways much lately... Charging the car just before setting off helps. Preheating the car off charging power helps too. No other tips really, sorry ;)
This car is built across the 3 platforms so the petrol one would need the pull to open the fuel flap and the drain is good for getting rid of water but also spilt petrol hence why it comes out of a slit in the wheel well, so it does not go all over the rear tyre and cause lost of traction and an accident!!
Scary? Naw - maybe a 2-3 out of 10! LOL . I really thought you were going to pour water on the charging port pins! That would have made it a 5 out of 10 :)
For the e-brake, are you holding it "pulled up"? Or do you pull it up once (like when parking) and then have to push it down (like when releasing it while parked)?
Good question... The first one at 5 mph I pulled up briefly but the force was enough to stop the car quickly. I then pressed the accelerator and it released. The second two were short pulls and releasing. It feels very similar to pulling up a physical handbrake momentarily at speed. It doesn’t latch on...
I once used the charge cable release cable, you have to use two hands, but is doable alone. The trick is that it is manual, so you have to keep pulling the release cable while trying to pull the charge cable.
What happens if you hit the power button? The volt has the power button right below the drive mode button. Normal, sport, mountain, hold. A couple times I have actually turned nu car off while driving
I tried in our IONIQ at the weekend - thankfully at low speed (3 mph off any roads). IT SHUT THE CAR DOWN! I was genuinely surprised. It’s not safe and I struggle to think of a scenario where it’s a useful ‘feature’ ... ?
@@ZeroTailpipe In a volt. You can switch back and forth between motor and electric. But the miles continue to get registered gas after switching to electricity for up to 3 miles. I have no idea why. This one guy drove over a mountain range fairly often . When he got over the top and while beginning the trip down. He would turn off the car at speed. Let it reset and restart it. The brake must be held down to start. And maybe in neutral . I have not accomplished the restart without a full stop. He wanted an accurate gas/electric stats. Rolling down the hill will add miles to electric range. I assume you can turn off all gas cars while driving I read about a g
The charge cable lock release would be a momentary action and will re-engage the lock once the pull tab is released. Two man job for this.
Thanks :)
@@ZeroTailpipe, Yes, 2 man job - or 2 long arms job :D. And by the way, you don't need to take out the plastic tray, you can just pull that cable through the hole. (pull slightly away from the charge port, not straight up).
Also, was wondering what happens if you select N, while driving. You didn't show that option :D
I have just bought my first EV, a 2016 ioniq 28kwh,with 85000 miles on the clock. It's fabulous, I'm getting 5.8mpkwh from it, range this morning after charging on the granny cable shows 138 miles. No sign of battery degradation. But the granny cable is proving reluctant to release, so I wanted to say how helpful this video was, showing how to use the emergency release. Many thanks!
My Ioniq on ship from Sth Korea. I would suspect the Plug lock release is only valid if the lock has electrical failure. If the lock is powered, it is locked. if the lock is not powered, the unlocked, normal state, but the mechanism is stuck, the cable will release mechanical part. In other words, you are fighting the active solenoid.
Good point! Hadn’t thought of that. When does your IONIQ arrive? Enjoy! :)
@@ZeroTailpipe I have been told sometime in April. I ordered it at the end of January. EVs are not common in Australia. For example, I believe there is only 40 Teslas in my state, Western Australia. I do find your videos interesting particularly the winter ones as it rarely gets below 10C here in WA. Mind you we have the occasional 40C day here! This was one of the factors of choosing the Ioniq over the Leaf, battery temperature management.
Thanks once again for your great videos.
I must say all your reviews are very informative and interesting well done
Thank you, Mr Zero Tailpipe, for another great video! In the beginning of my Ioniq ownership, I "had" to release the cable by pulling the emergency tag (I didn't know that the charging cable re-locks itself to the port a few seconds after unlocking the car... SMH), I managed to release the cable by pulling the release tag as strong as I could (not advisable)... I think the idea from Richard Servello here is probably the right one (to pull it for 5 seconds - thank you, Mr Richard)... Otherwise, thanks especially for the last test... Several times, I had to charge on the public chargers in the pouring rain, and was always scared that there'd be a short circuit because of all the water... still, I have a microfibre cloth for wiping the water out after each "rainy" charging... Greetings from Slovenia!
Thanks! P.S. Looking closely at the charge port I think there’s another drain hole by the bottom two DC pins, for extra safety too, in wet conditions... I’ll check again... :)
I go with the idea that it's a 2 person job. Nice video.
Thanks. I just wonder... what if there’s not 2 people around! ;)
@@ZeroTailpipe Yes you do need to pull the plug out while pulling the cable. It can just about be done by your self but is a lot easier with two people. I found out the hard way as our car was one of the early ones that had a faulty charge port release. It is very stiff and it feels like it is going to break.
Ah! Sorry it happened to you... but thanks for sharing :)
High anxiety when you hit the reverse button.
Yes :) Nice to know by design it won’t do anything unsafe though ...
I think you were pulling it twice, with two clicks. So maybe the first click unlocked it and the second click locked it. Ps I’ve had my ioniq in Australia (the first in queensland) for 8 days now 💙🚙. Your videos have told me so much more that the car can do than I could have found out by myself. Thanks you!
Thanks :) Yes, I think I need a re-test of the cable lock...
Test number 1 should be a Desert Heat Test in the Chandler-Phoenix area of Arizona. I have a KIA SOUL EV sister companu to Hyundai. My battery failed after 2 years with a big 50% drop in capacity. The Controller also shut down in hot weather during rush hour traffic. Very scary and unsafe.
Thanks Duncan. Another excellent video and timely as I was wondering the other day what would happen if one of the gear selector buttons were pressed accidentally.
Thanks :)
When I got my Ioniq initially there was a problem with the charge port actuator which meant it would often not release the cable using the key and as a result I had to use the mechanical release quite often.
The cable release has a weird feel to it where you're not too sure how much force is too much to pull with. I found a technique after a while where I would do a series of short pulls at moderate force after a couple of times I would hear and feel a large pop noise and the cable would then be released.
I never found it to re-engage when I used the manual release, but then I think my charge port actuator was all but packed up until I got it replaced.
Gosh. I was lucky in not having that issue. Must have been stressful to use that procedure often. Seriously felt like I was about to break/snap something ;)
@@ZeroTailpipe Yes it was stressful, and that was only half of the problem.
The other issue that stemmed from the same problem was that when I plugged in the charging cable the port did not lock it and it would not charge. It caused a problem especially in the early days when I didn't know the car so well and I was trying to do scheduled charging overnight.
After a couple of times I learned to listen for the little whirring sound after plugging in the cable. If I didn't hear it I knew it was not going to charge. In those cases, I had to remove the cable, then pop the manual release (with no cable in the port) and then plug the cable again. After I did this I would hear the whirr and knew it would be ok (at least until I had to unplug it !)
I got the actuator replaced by my dealer under warranty and haven't had any problems since.
Remember seeing the Ioniq ploughing through the polystyrene myself which was an amusing watch. Was because AEB doesn't activate below a certain speed, think around 20 mph, so it doesn't activate when parking etc.
Useful info, thanks :)
@@ZeroTailpipe No worries. Note manual says 6 mph, but seems to be faster than this from my experience. As for air bag, there are 2 collision sensors in the bumper, not sure I'd run the risk personally but should be a fair old impact to trigger 😉
'Duncan does it so we don't have to.' 🙂 Thanks.
:)
Another very interesting and informative video, thanks very much 👏🏻👏🏻
Thanks :)
Very informative video. Thank you. I see we are closer to types of charging cables for ionic👍
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Zero Tailpipe is there any tow bar for ionic electric did you research this topic? Not for towing but taking bikes by using townbar
I know the emergency brake system brakes for cars but don't know if it brakes for people. Regarding the side mirrors in the "trend" version they do not tilt down when switching to reverse. Think it's a feature only for the Premium version.
Hmm... Not sure on the AEB sensitivity either... Worth a test :)
I have the premium in Australia (only 8 days though) but I think the mirrors change. I thought it was my imagination at first, now I think you are right, it did it when I put the car in reverse. Another good idea I didn’t know my car would do. 💙🚙
Exactly. I learned this the hard way with my Ioniq. This is a design failure because it isn’t obvious. Not even a service guy was aware of it.
Eek :)
Did you apply the brake pedal while switching gears? Think this would change the results. Hit the reverse once accidentally while braking. Car went into reverse quite harshly. Thanks for your videos!
Hmm... I didn’t brake. I’ll have to check that out :)
I've wondered for months about the e-brake. Thanks for taking the risk on your own car. 🙂
Thanks. You’re welcome... I also had some trepidation... hence not holding it for very long at 30 mph :)
@@ZeroTailpipe by the way, how's your winter mileage? I'm near Portland, Oregon in the US, so our winter temps usually average in the 40°-50° range (Fahrenheit, of course) with maybe two or three weeks tops in the thirties or below freezing. I try to drive conservatively (I rarely click on the Sport mode), and I use the regenerative braking paddles a great deal. Even so, fully charged, my Ioniq EV reports ranges of about 110 miles. My tires (sorry, tyres 😁) are properly inflated, and...beyond that, I'm at a loss. Any thoughts?
About 120 miles here between -5C to 5C range (23F to 41F) - but this is at a low average speed as I’m not on highways much lately... Charging the car just before setting off helps. Preheating the car off charging power helps too. No other tips really, sorry ;)
This car is built across the 3 platforms so the petrol one would need the pull to open the fuel flap and the drain is good for getting rid of water but also spilt petrol hence why it comes out of a slit in the wheel well, so it does not go all over the rear tyre and cause lost of traction and an accident!!
It does seem to soak onto the tyre... Be interesting to know if anyone with the Hybrid or PHEV has seen petrol soak through?
I’ve used the cable when charging. The charger didn’t stop so then you can stop the charger. For example when you lost your RFID.
Useful to know, thanks :)
Scary? Naw - maybe a 2-3 out of 10! LOL . I really thought you were going to pour water on the charging port pins! That would have made it a 5 out of 10 :)
;) Low risk threshold here... I did notice a drain hole by the DC pins. May pour water on them next time...
Nice tests :) tricks we didnt know :)
Thanks :)
From what I've read you have to pull the release for 5 seconds to release.
Thanks. I’ll try :)
For the e-brake, are you holding it "pulled up"? Or do you pull it up once (like when parking) and then have to push it down (like when releasing it while parked)?
Good question... The first one at 5 mph I pulled up briefly but the force was enough to stop the car quickly. I then pressed the accelerator and it released. The second two were short pulls and releasing. It feels very similar to pulling up a physical handbrake momentarily at speed. It doesn’t latch on...
@@ZeroTailpipe Didn't realize we could do e-brake maneuvers with an electric car... 😁
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More importantly has anyone worked out how the charge caps fit onto the filler flap?
I haven’t managed to do this neatly or consistently. For the Type 2 cable I plug the cable cap onto the port flap. That works nicely :)
I once used the charge cable release cable, you have to use two hands, but is doable alone.
The trick is that it is manual, so you have to keep pulling the release cable while trying to pull the charge cable.
Thanks for sharing... I may retry it :)
What happens if you hit the power button?
The volt has the power button right below the drive mode button.
Normal, sport, mountain, hold.
A couple times I have actually turned nu car off while driving
Ooh! I don’t know... I will try it :)
I tried in our IONIQ at the weekend - thankfully at low speed (3 mph off any roads). IT SHUT THE CAR DOWN! I was genuinely surprised. It’s not safe and I struggle to think of a scenario where it’s a useful ‘feature’ ... ?
@@ZeroTailpipe
In a volt. You can switch back and forth between motor and electric.
But the miles continue to get registered gas after switching to electricity for up to 3 miles. I have no idea why. This one guy drove over a mountain range fairly often .
When he got over the top and while beginning the trip down. He would turn off the car at speed. Let it reset and restart it. The brake must be held down to start. And maybe in neutral . I have not accomplished the restart without a full stop. He wanted an accurate gas/electric stats. Rolling down the hill will add miles to electric range.
I assume you can turn off all gas cars while driving
I read about a g
is this even alloweD?
OMG, you are on the wrong side of the road... oh wait. 🤦♂️
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