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Original Fodera Richard Bona Bass vs. AliExpress Fake Fodera Yin Yang Bass
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- Опубліковано 2 лис 2019
- This video is about Fodera Vs Fodera
Richard Bona Fodera Elite 2019
No name AliExpress Fodera
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video - iPhone X
Y’all are sleeping. Foderas have never sounded super special it’s all about the playability and that a real one has
That's true. And personally I find the solidity of the Foderas also makes them a little stiff. Even if they had a reasonable cost I wouldn't be interested.
Agree! Never waste my money on a Foderas. I find the Fodera here uglybut it sounds good for a fake
I always thought that Fodera was overpriced and a couple of months ago I tried one for the first time. It was a monarch P Bass style in a kinda lake placid blue finish. I’d say it’s more about the feeling, as soon as I put my hand on it I immediately felt the premium building, comfort and playability. Sound wise it was good but nothing crazy compared to a normal pbass. So for me it’s more a feeling and a premium comfort.
100% agree. The Fodera I had sounded nice - but lord, how it played. How it played...
what a bunch of idiots!!!!!
everyone here will play fodera if you have funds to buy fodera!
cccccc get a life idiots
Great video Duodos thank you for your time.
Honestly they both sound good. Practically the Chinese bass would be a better buy in terms of
1) Cost (will take you years 7+ of constant gigging to break even)
2) Traveling (if it breaks due airline mishandling wont hurt your soul or pocket).
3) Great back-up
4) Sounds as good
Things you must know:
1) Know how to do basic bass setup (string action and intonation): remember the weather in china is different from other parts of the world so the wood will expand or contract thus needing a setup.
2) Maybe you'll have to change the pickups (maybe)
3) Change the strings
At the end of the day you (the player) make the instrument sound good. Buy a fedora if that was always your dream but don't fall into the notion that it will make you sound good.
if i paid over 5k for a bass im taking it with me lol
@@Deved89 well of course I would too totally agree. No point of buying something your not going to use lol. But I was speaking in terms of choosing a bass before you buy.
I agree the Bass does sound pretty good for real not mad at all.
U're right! If u wanna sound good put a Mike Pope pre in your Chinese copy. That's what I did and as it's a 17mm bass it's nearly as playable as my former true Emperor 2, and sound nearly as good. But I still will be buying an other "real" Imperial in my life that's nearly sure. Or maybe an Alpher? 😂
I've had two 5 string jazz basses from Aliexpress for 6 years, the wood has done nothing. I can leave them in a cupboard for months and they're still in tune.
I think this fake sounds pretty good!!! The sound is great to me! Fodera does take the cake but Fodero is just showing it flames!!! Like this!!!
I closed my eyes for a moment and thought I was listening to Victor Wooten.. Great job bro...
Immediately the fake sounded better, from the very 1st notes.
You can read the comments of the guys who got the real one - they're pissed, the fake sounded better. 12k later!
???
ive seen u on another chinese fodera test 🤣, i hope u are kidding 🥲
@@FritzMania Not a chance, I even sold all my Ibanez and Cort basses , as my replicas sound better. ☺
That's exactly what I thought too, they got ripped! 😂
Now,....both basses do sound good. The problem I have with this comparison is:
1- both are not equally strung.
2- both do not have the exact,..."FRETBOARD" material.
3- Both don't have the same pickups or preamp.
4- If the real fodera is chambered and the fake isn't,...that's not fair either.
But they both do sound "DARN GOOD!"
"IT'S JUST NOT A FAIR COMPARISON". Thank you. 👌😉
11coopbass Cooper ..... also, they’re comparing a Fodera Custom with a copy of a Standard
@@rumpledxkn yeah,...you're right. 👌😉
Thx for comment, I just compared the foderas I happened to have at home. I didn´t buy the instruments because of youtube video, but for my using. But I understand your point of view. Thx for your appreciation.
@@duoduodosbasssongs3114 It's still a good video to showcase the quality of both!
This is true, it's not an Apples for Apples comparison.
You know. The fake one sound decently. But, man. The real Fodera is a dream. All theses basses are the most beautiful sounds ressonance.
There may be a few tone issues but, I still plan to buy the fake Fodera this summer, only a 5-string version. I'll get it worked on here and save about 6 grand!
Theres already been too many sound engineers proving that the vast majority of the basses tone is its pickups. Most companys use machines on their high end basses to make their necks perfect so the playability argument is gone now. I have an Ibanez sr2605 and a Lakland skyline and the neck is amazing on both and they are both around $1500. Charging $3000+ for a bass is getting pretty hard to justify.
3k for a fodera? Try more like 8-11k. Do I think its worth it? Maybe if I was a world touring musician and needed something I know I can depend on. I just bought a fake Ken Smith 6 string from China-bay so Il have to see. Cost about 400
Facts sounds wise any bass with balance construction and comfortable neck depending on the player with great matching combo of electronics will produce any tone shapes your looking for. You pay for the name and aesthetics. Resell market will start to reflect with all the great newer bass makers. So many options now.
@@businessofrhythm2315 anything can break, that extra expense does not guarantee anything. There are too many touring professional bassists that use the common brands like, Yamaha, ibanez, fender, spector, warwick etc etc etc to justify Fodera. It's unnecessary lavishness. If a neck is already stable and perfect on a $1600 bass then what is left? Hardware and electronics? That stuff isn't exactly rocket science so your paying for the name and beauty of the bass. Fodera uses pickup companies like EMG and seymour duncan which is even more insulting as you can get that tone by buying these pickups and put them on another bass. They are indeed great basses but no bass is that good.
@@businessofrhythm2315how is it doing
they both sound good to me
Nice 👍 . I'll buy the fake . There's no reason why original foderas are so expensive . They both sound good
Well sound isn't the only thing that you're doing. Build quality, components, and just over all longevity are significantly better on the fodera. Plus you support cool people by buying an original. But, yeah, the fake is still better value in the short term
those cool people would incentivize more people to support them if they lowered their prices and not have them in many countries people's average yearly salary range
there IS a reason for the price man
from the Work of making them, the quality control, pickups an tech stuff, tuners, and the effort that is put to make them
And a lot more reasons, The aliexpress instruments are super cool and they seem to work great, But you cant Say that someones hard work, doesnt worth it =, /
I actually like the fake one better.
It sounds less processed and would probably sound better in the mix.
The real one seems more suited for solos and features.
What's the price difference?
Cca 230€ vs 12000€
@@duoduodosbasssongs3114 lol 12 000 euros ... and I hesitate to buy a 2600 euros Strat custom shop thinking it's crazy :) . I hope you enjoy it it's great instrument !
are you serious?, you ear the lows in the fake? (almost nothing), you here the sustain ( almost 0) you ear the difference in volume bettween the strings? (so much). I am producer, and one thing is to listen the instrument alone, and other thing is mixing the bass with other instruments, thats the moment when this things are very important, and the fake is horrible in that aspect, but the FOdera sounds incredible, perfect lows with very sustain, good mids and treble, and the strings sound equally. i never pay more than 250 bucks for the fake
30 years playing before I got my first Fodera. It is the most playable instrument I have ever owned.
Me hubiera gustado más una comparación donde los dos bajos fueran el mismo modelo
Chidera sounds nice, but there real one has a sick sound!
Maybe if you change the pickups and preamp and stuff things might get different, and the Chidera would sound comparable THEN and for a lower cost... But that sound man, very nice Fodera!
There are so many differences between these two basses that any comparison is just moot, however the copy sounds pretty good considering.
I think you can order these knock off basses without the logo and for many people this will be as close as they will ever get to a Fondera. So many basses are almost an exact copy of the Fender and somehow this never seems to bother anyone? This behavior baffles the sh*t out of me. Nice playing, it was fun...
i bought richard bona's fingers on the darkweb and waiting for delivery so a surgeon (also found on the darkweb) to do the change i'll keep you updated
A lot of those companies doing Fender knocks are actually improving on the design/playability/sound in some way. Because frankly, it isn't hard to do. Fender make the most simplistic guitars by a mile.
@@WilDBeestMF Yet Fender is vastly more desired than any "Fender" knock off...
@@Bass.Player *Greco has entered the chat and FGN would like to know your location*
I firmly disagree. Even Ibanez does Fender better.
@@WilDBeestMF No Ibanez that I have seen is a Fender knockoff. What do you see on stage most often?
I'm done here, I starting to feel like I need a tetanus shot.
Bro. Tocas muy bien. El mejor ejemplo de que no todo es el instrumento, el que es perico dónde sea es verde.
Man you got my respect playing that Sir Duke!!!
Most ppl buy these expensive basses for looks and the myth of playability. Even the legends didn't start out playing them. They have an endorsement. A Fodera won't Transform you into Victor Wooten. If you can afford it, go for it. If you can't, save for your house or vehicle.
Yes i can hear a Difference between the two. But not a 12000 difference. The right strings a good set up and the right Pups on the Fedora😊 and it will sound wonderful. A few of my friends have done this with the Chinese federa s ( Project Basses) and end up having killer Basses) But i t can be Hit or miss with the Chinese basses depending what store they come from in China. Interesting Video. And also. Its the Player not the Bass!!!!
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Calvin Curry It’s way more than a $1200 difference! I think those Richard Bona’s retail around 11k I think!
The Yin-Yang sounds faking awesome for the money.... Gonna have to get me one!
No comparison... the Yin Yang is the clear winner ;-)
Si the Best
your right but i find this quite worrying ...so many questions come from this realisation,
Nice compare!!!! I love both
I have a Fodera YY stand 4. I paid $5790 for it including taxes. I wanted it because It's an awesome bass. It's that expensive because the market allows it. I had a much cheaper bass at one time that was awesome.
The Fedora seems to sustain harmonics a little longer and a little more snappy.
Lol fodera vs fedora
Maple always sounds more nasal.
You are excellent bass player. In my opinion both basses sound many different. Also I like to spent money for real products more than copy 😁
those 2 foderas are GOOD!!! this player is great!!!
It would help if you compared the build quality since they are vastly different designs that are going to sound different regardless. I know alot of those Chibson Ying Yangs have alot of problems with fretwork. I saw one where none of the electronics worked at all.
Right - aside from the obvious moral/ethical issue, the big difference is that the fake one will start falling apart within a year or two. the neck will warp, the frets will pop out, etc. I know someone who made the mistake of buying one of those. It was great at first. He can't play it any more because the frets keep popping out.
@@JohnFoxBass yeah I would suggest spending a few hundred on an Ibanez or even a Squire and you will have a much better base to
modify if you wish and an instrument that will last despite being inexpensive, rather than just being cheap like the knockoffs.
😂
@@JohnFoxBassI've had two beautiful 5 string jazz bass copies from Aliexpress for 6 years and not a single problem. Not only that but they stay in tune for months even when they haven't been played,and they cost about 1/29th of the price of a Fender. 😊
@@pfg_pedalsAfter owning two 5 string Aliexpress jazz basses for 6 years with not a single issue, I sold all my Corts and Ibbys coz they sounded junk and had tons of dead spots on the necks.
Are the frets sharp in the Chinese model? I wonder how it would sound with EMG pickups.
I have a chinese one and have owned a Fodera USA. Sold the Fodera years ago
@@deamonpt Really?
@@BARTFUNKBASS well, yes. The Chinese is not a top quality bass in terms of building quality. But it is straight and the fretjob is decent. Upgraded it with hipshot, sad preamp and some fab handmade pickups and it sounded better than the Fodera. As easy to play? No... As a piece of art? No. Sounded better? Yes for a fraction of the price. Having owned several top quality basses, my favourites are Sadowsky and GF custom Guitars (Portuguese handmade basses) . I can show my Chinese Fauxdera pics
I own a Chinese fodera copy, bought it out of curiosity, it plays well. Never played a real one, so I can't compare.
Obviously, the tone range is nothing like my (real) Alembics, or MK1 Wal custom, but the sound it does produce is nice.
And I won't shit myself if the cat knocks it over!
they both sond good.
Nice compare.
are you serious, the fake has vey poor lows, very little sustain and the string doesnt sound equally, i am producer and bassist, and for me that bass is very cheap in sound and price
You really love Victor Wooten don't you!! It's ok, so do I.
Soon as I heard it I commented about that, and started reading comments and saw this...
Definitely Vic
1000 times more harmonics in the Fodera!!! Man these basses kill!!!
the Fodera sounds "too new",to me.It will get better after some years from now.The fake one has been played for while.
Federal Basses are alive in many ways. I regret selling mine.
Here I am wanting to wrap my jackson js2 to look like a yin yang...lol (beginner just starting out 2 weeks in) I really want a yinyang !!
Hmmm..maybe i should visit AliExpress
The fake one actually sounds decent aside from the obvious pick up noise. Bad grounding/shielding.
It would have been nice to hear THE SAME models (they are available) against each other.
And maybe a comment on playability, etc.
yea it really shines through in playability, the knock-off really slowed him down. the real one was alot easier to play fast.
aliexpress very good
The woodwork on the Chinese copy is okay, the biggest difference to my ears is the Richard Bona model has the Mike Pope preamp and I can hear the difference.
The woodwork on the clone makes it sound dull and flat without the rich and creamy overtones that the real deal have...also the ''woodsustain'' is clearly more present on the RD..furthermore..just burn the fake please, don't sponsor those guys who make money with fakes....
If the Chinese can make an upright replica that is good enough for Stanley Clark to take on the road, it's just a matter of time before they can do it for the bass playing market.
Fretboard material, construction pup location make a huge difference here, as well as the bridge.
The fretboard of faux dera is rosewood. It’s going to have a darker sound out the gate than the maple board. High mass bridge plus back through construction add to the long sustain of the Imperial. And the location of the pickups changes the tone of the faux dera. These variables don’t allow this to be an apples to apples comparison. But if you have any skill at all it’s clear that the faux dera with a proper set up job is a useful instrument…
Where did you get these foderas immitations from ???
CZK 5,565.79 23％ Off | maple with rosewood black & white color active 4 string bass guitar
a.aliexpress.com/_dZZrAoV
I ACTUALLY LIKE THE FAKE BETTER
JUST THINK IT HAS A DEEPER RICHER SOUND AND MORE GROWL
Aliexpress bass has more low end and Fodera has more treble.
Fake fodera sounds better to me. Foderas have one big problem. They do not sound better than Fenders or some other much more affordable bass guitars.
Aliexpress bass has more low end and Fodera has more treble.
Could you tell me what pickups an preamp you have in the China fedora?
Sound awesome.
How much is it the Jing jang one.
I must have it after watching this video.
Thanks in advance for your answer.
Greetings from Serbia.
Hi thx, Jing jang from aliexpress was cca 200€
I wish that the price stays the same.
She sound awesome and it's a good platform for an upgrade.
as long as the neck is straight , has a good truss rod , and the body is a good solid wood , why would you spend thousands on a Fodera , just get a copy , change out all the hardware if you must and the pickups to name brand better pickups. Then be very happy for like maybe 600 dollars , done.
Aliexpress bass has more low end and Fodera has more treble.
Top .Victor tem som mais limpo .e outro mais agressivo
Y'all are tripping, I'm really about to order this ali baba bass, for real for real.
Aliexpress bass has more low end and Fodera has more treble.
I will grab the fake! Warmer tone.
Are the strings for the fake "tighter" or like harder to pluck than the fodera? And I'm also wondering if the strings are higher than normal.
Both strings are 40. The strings on a fake fodder are a bit higher than on the original
He has good fingers
Nice and illustrative video, but if it is up to me, much less nice Fodera.
Instruments with nice handcraft, but nothing special that was not seen at basses with much lower prices.
The sound is nice and silky, but where are the bass frequencies? (I will not make listing of my listening equipment here). D2 fat string sometimes go below 35 Hz, but with miserably low dBs.
It is really inappropriate creating bass guitars that do not sound bassy or at last warm. But as long as there are the people that love giving a ton of money for something modestly wrong but shout out as a high-end, I support Fodera.
Did you have to upgrade the pre-amp in the chinese copy and or pickups? Just curious.
Put a Mike Pope preamp in nearly all piece of wood and u'll get something. I do have a Chinese Bona copy ahah, pretty decent with a Flexcore in ;)
The fake fodera sounds better than the real fodera IMHO.🤷🏻♂️
The price diference is much bigger than the sound diference
Double thumb on Fedora was better. Maybe the copy would benefit from better strings.
I disagree with both comments I think that excellent bass players and playing often allow poor equipment to sound better and occasionally the more expensive equipment creates some player prejudice in the attack style and passion of play.
I think the comparison was fair showing the tone and clarity for any style of playing.
The Original Cleary has superior note clarity but that may not be the desired tone in the mix.
I tried to show both basses only in the basic settings without any corrections and with all the potentiometers in the middle settings so that everyone can picture the instruments themselves
Also to note that the fake one doesn't have EMGs which provide the extra clarity the original bass is known for.
So get the China bass and change the preamp and pickups. Ok 👌🏾
thanks for sharing
Me gusta mas el sonido del Chinera
Foderas are expensive because rent is high in Brooklyn
Awesome thanks for sharing
This is just beyond redic. Anyone who h1as been playing for a while knows most of the tone you get is from your fingers. If I play Victor Wooten's bass, I will not sound like Victor because I don't have Victor's hands. The reason you buy a Fodera is not to sound like Victor Wooten, it is you appreciate the craftsmanship, the type of electronics and the exotic woods they use, not to sound radically different from what you are playing now. I walk into stores all the time and pick up a $1000 Warwick and then play a fender mustang and they sound pratically the same unless one has round wounds and the other has flat wounds because I get the tone from my hands, not the bass.
Great video!
What is a fodera jam without a Victor jam!!
Strings, same model?
I’ll take the fake, save money and take a vacation. To me the price if the real one is not worth the difference
So is the yin yang bass worth?
Yes
My son got one and the back part that looks like a batteries wires are messed up. Can you show those?
lol..i had them the wrong way round.
Man you could of done each bass more justice...any way it's about what you can afford getting all silly about it makes no sense fodera is fodera Aston Martin is Aston Martin if your skint you say Aston Martin are shit and drive about in a skoda...lol🤣🤣🤣🤣
I’ll take the Cheaper one
230 - 12000= 11770 aliexpress jejeje
Play what you have and save your pennys.If it's your desire to own a Fodera bass, get a Fodera. Don't settle. The thing is: when you buy these Chinese basses it's a crap shoot(roll of the dice). You may get a decent one or you may get a really bad one. If you buy a real Fodera the quality will be impeccable and if there is anything that's off , Fodera will make it right. See Johnny Lee Long's video.
Si es rentable comprar la.copia
Name of the song @ 4:02 ?
"Don't get around much any more"
both sounds fake in your hands
I'm not sure that's a compliment...
@@lingonberriesofwrath1836 if you look at his channel he's got zero room to say shit and shit...
He doesn’t play “Power” very well!
I was looking forward to this video, but you managed to make both basses sound horrible!
I am surprised, that i prefer the Sound from the China Bass. 🙈😂
What woud Mr. Wooden say to this? 😀
Name of song @1:52
@German Escobar
That Song Is "Sir Duke" By Stevie Wonder. It Features The PHENOMENAL Bassist Nate Watts! The Exact Line On This Clip Is The Breakdown/Turnaround!!! 👍🎸🔥
@@keithmcduffie7182 thanks bro!!
What's the name of the song in the first 40 seconds, please?
Man in the mirror - Michael Jackson
Cade o swing?
Aliexpress bass has more low end and Fodera has more treble.
Spend 1/4 of a million on a sports car to go to work and everyone will be impressed. spend 10K on a bass guitar and everyone wants you to justify it. Buy what you want, its only you that really needs to justify it. As for the Chinese copy, Will likely to need some work to get it to play well. But for some people that is half the fun.
Both bass sounds cheap, the real Fodera seem be very normal, the fake one is worst but 10 times cheaper make you wonder buying the real one is just for show....Fodera just has better preamp and PUs !
A good demo
Fake Fodera good sound!😂
there is no justificable way in that one of them cost 40 times more than the other
Suena mejor el de Aliexpress :) , solo se creen el cuento de que es la maxima en bajos y dejan bastante que desear esos fodera, mucho show y poco sonido.
Fake sounds better
Aliexpress bass has more low end and Fodera has more treble.
I feels like the player didn’t show how they sounds! Especially the slapping ! And I also “know” that Fodera is not worst it! Over price and looks ugly! I played few before, don’t like them!
China sounds much better to me
The copied Fodera sounds really bad.
Both sound equally mediocre.
What kind of corny comparison is this? They don't even have the same pick up configuration. Come on bro you got to be smarter than that. And the electronics on each bass is totally different. I am always amazed at what people call a comparison on you tube.😂
Thank you for your opinion, most pickups on both basses are singles. So the best comparison is on amazing grace where I play bridge pickups. I did the video on the bass that I have at home (unfortunately I don't have the chance to buy 2 exactly the same bass) and I use it. So let's play bro
Fodera has an awful tone.
Aliexpress bass has more low end and Fodera has more treble.
Pretentious much?
both sound bad... or... you cant play very well