If you want us delver drivers to use them ditch the codes to open them. Leave them unlocked put a scale at the bottom and have them automatically lock when it detects weight or a package. We really don't have time to mess with trying to open them we are on tight time schedules and I at least have 200 stops a day. Seconds turn into minutes, minutes turn into hours really fast.
I worked for USPS for 2 years. I fully understand time sensitivity buildup. With multiple delivery services, locking the box at first package would be counter productive with the later deliveries, making the box useless.
I predict 99% of your packages will either be placed on your porch or on top of this box. Good thing Eufy sent it to you at no cost. $400 is ridiculous.
In my testing, most of them dropped it off..there is only 1 person that didn't bother and another one because the package was too big. I think most of them stop and use it because it is something they haven't seen before.
@@LifeHackster just as you say because they haven't seem it before, i worked for amazon delivery in the past and i would be honest i wouldn't take 10sec extra to open it and put it inside unless it a city i know people steal a lot i hide packages or use this.
I think the real solution is to get these things partnered with the shipping companies, so they can easily open them by scanning the tracking code, and also are obligated to use them when available.
@@common_c3nts If it is partnered, delivery companies can keep track if there is a drop box at the delivery address, and if yes if it has been used, and if no dock it from their pay, like they do with everything else...
That's a US problem though. In other (civilized) parts of the world, delivery people actually have to ring the doorbell and wait for you to answer. They can't just leave packages without your permission (although most do leave them if a safe, hidden location is available), and they most definitely can't just toss the package somewhere near your front door. Opening a box will always be quicker than waiting for somebody to open the door, so yeah, this works fine. Once again, it's the US mentality that's the issue.
@@foodhatesme Lol, you base that on what, the fact that people actually want to receive their stuff instead of having it stolen? If you seriously think it's better to just toss packages near the front door because it's "more time efficient" for the delivery people than to have your packages actually arrive safely, in a country that is PLAGUED by porch thieves, you're insane. But hey, anything to keep up the insane hallucinations of "USA #1", right?
I really like it . Telling the delivery guys to close the top is very important, and should be said within 3 seconds after pin is enter. Also a “thank you” should be said when delivery guys close the top. It will make them feel better lol
And a slot for a treat after they dropped it off..like give them some chocolates and once they take the treat, it should say “good boy” that’s a good boy! 🐩🐕🦺🦮🐕
@@LifeHackster and once you change the code, all the codes printed on shipping labels already sent out will be invalid. It should have a barcode scanner to scan tracking numbers and unlock that way.
I think a better idea would be for the packages to slide/move into a locked compartment once the lid is closed. No pin required... and all the delivery drivers can stop complaining that taking 3 seconds to type in a code adds up.
I guarantee once these become more common, couriers will end up having to train employees to use them and as long as the package fits, they’ll have to use them lol.
More than half my deliveries are tossed onto the porch. I'm lucky if they even ring the doorbell. They're in such a rush. Hard to see drivers taking time to use the box.
Deal beakers for me are: No auto closing of the lid, no option for using memory card to be used without homebase, no hardwired power option, and the reminder to close the box should be immediately after the box opens. Most delivery drivers when they press my eufy video doorbell are already walking away after they press the button. Keeping that in mind, a minute after the box has been opened the driver is already back in their vehicle and driving away (assuming they used the box in the first place).
lol... true. But at least (as far as I could tell from this video) it uses a dimple lock which would be harder for amateur lock pickers to open. And the built in video camera would quickly indicate that something is up and you could trigger the alarm on it.
Can confirm, A good friend of mine who works in tech / with expensive computer parts and things, bought one of these big enough to fit ultrawide monitors and stuff, its gotten used maybe 3x and was a huge waste of money because the delivery people never use it
Since there is a camera, there is an opportunity for a QR added to the shipping label and used to unlock the lid removing the need for a pin plus it can be unique to each transaction. It likely require to work with companies such as Amazon to introduce such a feature, yet it's doable and can benefit all parties.
You're lucky if the delivery person even makes it up to the porch. Amazon is the worst! They toss it from 10+ feet away. No knock, no doorbell ring (Too much trouble). So 95% of delivery people will most likely not use it. Nevertheless, great review as always.
Greetings from Torrance! What a very cool box. There are some improvements that can be made, but the general idea is very sound. The next generation will be self closing, have more verbal instructions, and a 10 key pad, but if you receive multiple packages a week, this would be a good investment. Anything that could block the view of porch pirates is definitely a deterrent. Thanks again for your great work!
They used to make homes with mail drops on a side of a house, but most were through the door. If you could implement this to be part of the home and you can have a second door open from inside you could automate a robot to take the boxes out of the bin
Thank you for the excellent and early review! Having to enter a pin and close the lid is pretty annoying and time consuming for delivery drivers, who already have a tough job. It would be great if Eufy could find an alternate solution to the pin entry and auto close the lid after few seconds to make it less annoying to deliver.
$400 is totally reasonable given all the work that goes into it. I actually tried making one myself about 2 years ago, made out of wood and some hardware from home depot lol but I got quickly overwhelmed with the electronics and safety precautions to prevent, let say kids trying to hide inside and then become trapped in it. There is videos here in youtube of people building their own delivery boxes. Plus it wasn't going to look as neat as Uefy's. I just hope more companies come up with their own delivery boxes. I mean Amazon already did this with their lockers they have at certain locations. I might buy this
Thanks for your review LifeHackster! Great solution! Unfortunately, delivery people are lazy. They just care about dropping it off. They don't even ring the bell anymore. I agree need some mechanism to integrate with carriers. Amazon' key (garage delivery model) works great. Maybe incentivize the carriers to build the integration? Similar to a signature confirmation service, the delivery person will scan the Eufy Smart Delivery box and use a secure code (I imagine via Bluetooth) to open the smart box using their handheld mobile device and make the drop off. Once it closes, the transaction is concluded and notifications/confirmations are sent.
Seems like a couple of the delivery guys were surpised to see the box there as they were obviously not familiar but Im sure we sill start to see these boxes more and more. I like the fact that you explained were its best to type in the code. Over all great video as always.
I would encourage the delivery person with some free water or snacks along with instructions and my thanks for doing it, so at least they don't feel like they're doing extra work for nothing. Otherwise I think they'd use it the first time because of the novelty but then they would view it as a nuisance and don't bother.
Amazing review as always! I would absolutely love one of these except it seems that it really should have a motor to automatically close the box after. Maybe I’ll wait for that version in the future. Also Eufy in general is pretty awful about sticking to their promises about future updates so I wouldn’t hold my breath on homebase support. The homebase 2 for example still has no option to utilize the USB port and their cameras still have that devastating “sync” security flaw that they keep kicking the can on. That’s being picky though, this is a pretty cool device compared to what else is out there.
If anyone is planning on purchasing this for USPS delivers, hold off. UPS, possibly FedEx, and Dhl might use it but the Post Office flat out refuses because they have to put in a code, and that's too time-consuming. I specifically bought this for USPS because they won't put my packages over the fence but after it's all set up, it's a no go.
I fill the can use at lease the cheap actuators to open and close by self, the app shout by work with gps so you can share the tracking number with the box and the box will know where os the packet, the way when the delivery truck gets close will be open by self and close after 1 minute
I think its a great first start. I'm with a lot of people though, if I got it for review from Eufy I would gladly use it, but at the current price for a first-gen item that clearly needs some improvements, I would pass. I'm very concerned about when you build it, you have access to the screws from the outside. (If I'm remembering from the video correctly regarding putting all the side panels on). They need to build the entire unit so you are only accessing screws from the inside of the box. And not being able to close it remotely or where you can set it to close by itself when someone walks away is a big deal to me.Again, I get it. Its the first Generation and that would add even more cost. Its still a good product without those features and I hope other companies will take note and build their own versions with those things included.
Yes, there are screws on the outside but also on the inside and on the bottom which it will not easily take apart even when the exposed screws are unscrewed.
I have had a wall mounted box for many years. Inside dimensions 16" deep, 18" wide and 20" high. It has a door with a pull handle and is plainly marked "parcel delivery". I don't use the lock which is designed to lock after the door is opened. The USPS is most likely to put parcels inside (Texas and we have rural mailboxes, so they understand boxes) but UPS, Fedex and Amazon only put 1 of 10 packages that would fit, inside. More often they place them on top to take a picture with their phones. I like the Eufy box but it's huge and I don't have room for it.... and I doubt it would be used much.
Great Video … I put up a tablet outside letting carriers know that we have a pickup of packages to display on the tablet and also to let drivers know to take a water So you could add a message on the tablet to inform drivers to look on the label to put the code for the box
Go get a private mailbox at a mailbox store. You can get more 1-2 years for the price of this thing and you never have to deal with delivery people throwing your stuff out on the deck, your security will be better than this, and you never have to deal with being home to sign for things.
you guys in the US dont need this box but a whole rehaul of the delivery system . In germany the delivery person just rings the bell and gives you the packege directly to the person (most times you need to sign something to reassure it was delivered ) otherwise they take the package back and leave a note with information where YOU can pick your package up if you werent home. the only time where the delivery person leaves a packege at the location is when they can contact your neighbour .
I think the one delivery guy in the red shirt thought the box was automatically going to close lol. They should add a motor to the lid so it can close and open automatically. That way if the lid is left open the box will close on its own!
Best bet is to get a heavy concrete slab or even make your own and attach the box to the slab. The slab should be heavy enough (mix in heavy weights or stone?) that a opportunistic thief will give up. However if won't prevent a determined thief that has planned to take the unit. Obviously attaching it to a wall or floor will be more secure if that options is available to you.
@@LifeHackster except the orders already placed would not be able to be updated. There are times when one has several items being shipped simultaneously.
I feel like there is a need for these boxes especially for the areas I deliver in because a lot of people have dogs loose or gated driveways so it would be nice to have a safe place to put a package. And for those who had or are still having bad experiences with drivers, report them. You might think nothing happens but they will be reprimanded. Trust me I know, I've lost 4 co workers in the last 2 weeks due to bad costumer compliance. If enough complain we can actually get people who cares about doing there job right. no matter how much it sucks. And I'm saying this knowing if one is fired my job gets harder. but if i cant get good people in then everyone can have a nice day.
I'm interested in something like this, since my carriers can't seem to put my deliveries off the side so they aren't seen from the street. I even have a sign out showing them where to put the boxes, yet many ignore it. But, at $400 this product is a pass.
Pretty nice concept and the product looks good for the first version, anyway the most important thing is how delivery people will need to adapt and invest the extra 10 seconds to use it, and thats the most difficult part about it, but as time goes on I'm pretty sure this will be something more common, also it would be nice to add a "thank you" or some catchy "success" sound when the delivery people close the lid.
So an issue i see with the PIN code been on the package label is if the delivery service doesn’t put the package in the Smart Drop anyone can pick up that package and use the code to open the smart drop and take out other package that’s in it. The code should be on the device the delivery service is carrying .
I seriously doubt UPS drivers will bother will bother with this. They always leave packages at the very edge of the porch and run away as fast as possible.
Great review and the only thing I see that doesn’t look right is at 3:57 on the video it looks like you put the right hydraulic on upside down because it shows not to do that on the bottom right of the cardboard assembly directions. Thanks for the thorough review. Subscribed.
Cool idea but the first delivery person that leaves your package outside the box also leaves the pin number for the box and view of whoever is there trying to get into it. Not to mention all the delivery people who are in a hurry and don't want to screw around with your box.
I can make a stout and attractive wooden box much bigger than that with a simple padlock on it. Cost of $60 in materials. Delivery person drops the package in and snaps the padlock shut. If you won't be home, time your deliveries so that you don't get more than one per day. I'd also post a sign asking the delivery people to PLEASE use the security dropbox. You'd be surprised how cooperative people are if you just ask nicely. I don't agree delivery people wouldn't use it, because I made a box like that for my elderly mother and so far, only one package hasn't made it into the porch box (but the FedEx guy hid the package BEHIND the box, so it still kinda worked!). And yes, there's a sign on the front of the box that asks delivery people to please secure packages in the box.
Why would eufy charge a cloud as your only option if you want to record video that dosnt make sense it dose make sense if it had internal storage like someof their the other outdoor or home base or an sd card
I'm ignoring the fact that most US delivery people won't use this thing. Thankfully, there's other countries out there where packages can't just be tossed somewhere near the front door, and the delivery people actually have to wait for you to open the door, or come back on a different day. For them, this would be a big time saver. More on the box though: It's too complicated. It's actually worse than just having one of those one-way lids. I'm not sure if they exist in the US, I'm pretty sure there's something like that out there, but in the Netherlands these lids are on so many containers. Underground garbage containers, clothing donation containers, you name it. Basically you open the lid, which provides a relatively small area for you to place your stuff. If you close the lid, it'll open on the other side, and allow the object you placed to drop into the box. Open the lid again, the other side closes and the front opens, ready for new objects. No power required, no option for the 3rd delivery guy to leave the box open and still have all your packages stolen or get rained on, it's just better. Just add a camera and some kind of sensor to it and you have a much better solution that doesn't have any of the glaring issues that this box has. For the record, the glaring issues: - Reliant on delivery drivers closing the lid - If you receive multiple packages on a day, everybody except the first guy has access to whatever's already inside the box - Relies on battery power for main functionality There's probably more, but these are the ones I have at the top of my head.
yes, the shipping company should take partner responsibility to prevent the porch pirates, i saw lots condos have courier boxes, its quite pricey to buy this safe box.
This is a solution for US only. In other Countries like here in Germany delivery guys have to ring the bell to give the packages to you personally. If not they try to get a neighbor to take it or if nobody is at home they take it with them and drop it at the nearest post office, so you can get it from there a day after. It's not allowed to drop the package infront of your house if you weren't giving them permission to do so. So we don't have porch pirates here.
Wait…once it’s opened up, does it automatically close too or is it up to the delivery guys to close it afterwards too. If it is they might as well leave behind or on the side of the box than go through all the hassle
1. Put a box code when you order 2. Delivery person decides to just leave the package next to the eufy 3. Porch pirate looks at the package, sees the box code, and then opens your eufy too
hey LF , after watching your review of the wyze cam floodlight i was left astonished ! cheap floodlight with a wyze cam v3 for $100, local storage , additional usb port to add another v3 for more coverage , etc etc . i went ahead and bought the wyze cam floodlight after weeks of research and i honestly am regretting it . theirs two known bugs that users are experiencing and that wyze knows about and is currently working on an update for it . the two bugs are when you open up the live view the floodlights turn on and when you’re viewing the live feed and motion is detected the floodlights will turn on it . this is really annoying . my floodlights are turning on and off all night . i manually turned off the floodlights bc it’ll be on and off all night . wyze is working on an update but the question i have is will the update fix it and is wyze good at fixing these issues … i have until the 23rd of january to return the floodlight . should i return it or wait for the update ….
I got one the other day, and the box is set up for permanent wiring using a hole on the back and a socket near the battery so it’s not dependent on the battery.
It would be good to have a mode that has the first time you open it you just have to press the button the button then next time you need the pin so that drivers don’t need to have a code to put something in but you need a code to take it back out.
What I don't get is - why are packages being left on door steps? I'm in the UK and every packaged is signed for or left in a safe place, i.e not outside...
Great review! I wonder if eufy can make the door open from the front instead of on top. I think people would more likely to close it after delivery since it's more intuitive.
I think having a physical code is better than something wireless. As we seen home security systems has been broken in with key fobs. Let's hope these have no weak points for forced break ins but idk if people are even gonna try that just to steal a package.
Are there any statistics you can provide us with in terms of the number of deliveries you got compared to the number that actually placed it in the box?
In my testing, there is only 1 that didn't even bother and another just because the box is too big. My USPS guy which you saw on the video places it in the box and has learned it and is the one that delivers to the house 90% of the time.
@@johnbod I have had a smaller simple box for years. USPS uses it. UPS, FedEx and Amazon 1 out of ten. Mine is plainly marker "Parcel Delivery" and has a simple door to open. I just wanted parcels out of sight. I have seen many doorbell cam videos of them putting the parcel on top of the box to take a picture. I wish I had just put a big flower pot that would block the view of porch pirates.
I am half way on the video and I wished this product had mail box feature. The ability to receive letters/documents to substitute a conventional mail box. Might as well since this is such a big unit on your property. You have to agree with me on this one. Why have a mail box and this big unit in front of your door or property?
Here the delivery guys are required to ring the door bell. For me, it's easier and cheaper to put an empty trash bin and attach a note over my bell, "put packages in the green trash bin near the door". No one (unless people who read this) will know that green trash bin is full of packages or even food lol
Can you make a video on how to connect the Smart Delivery Dropbox to the Homebase 3? So much mixed information about the Smart Delivery Box working with the Homebase 3.
Why dont we put these next to the mailbox? Saves the driver time and if it was made to automatically close it prevents accidentally leaving the lid open.
I wonder if it would be easier to just have a barcode scanner for the delivery person to just scan the shipping label. A quick lookup on the carrier's site to make sure the parcel is currently out for delivery to my address and, if so, pop the lid. If it's a carrier that we don't support then just ring the smart doorbell and the property owner pops the lid on their smart phone. Using a linear actuator alongside a strut would mean the box would open automatically and could also close automatically if the delivery person doesn't push the open/close button after placing the parcel inside (a simple ir beam sensor across the top should pickup something going in) and then start an ~60 second timer. Additional BOM costs wouldn't be much for way more convenience.
the plate that you put in (45 kgs), wasn't it too much weight for the floor of the unit? In your opinion, can it still handle a bit more? If so, how much more you recon?
This feels kinda weird. It’s not like doorbells cameras now I’m not sure if people are going to treat this the same because they are so used to leaving things at the door and there is this new thing. While it’s going to slow down theifs couldn’t rhe theif do the same thing from the Eufy as the mailman? It would be better if there was something like a one way box like one that lets packages go in but you must unlock it to get it like some of those mailboxes
That's what I was thinking. You can install a one way door in a wall or anywhere and it would be cheaper and much more useful since the delivery guys don't need to bother with pin numbers or anything, they just toss the package in there and that's it. And porch pirates can't get to it, save for completely destroying the door and causing property damage, which they won't do.
Good idea but poor execution. It's too time consuming and complicated for Delivery people that are making 100-200 stops per day. All that is needed is a box where the top, when opened, blocks access to the bottom of the box...kinda like how vending machine doors close off access to the inner snacks when you're getting what has dropped down after a purchase. No electronics needed and delivery guys are more likely to use it cuz it doesn't take up their time.
$400 for this? Costco had another brand last year (this same size) for $40. It doesn't have IoT functionality, but it gets the job done. I have mine paired with a $40 Ring camera. The key to these is that you need to be able to leave them closed but unlocked, so the delivery driver doesn't have to key in if it doesn't have anything in it .. way easier for them. Unless you're away or getting multiple deliveries a day, it won't slow them down any.
I could see the potential if they added a plug and a sd card so and a bigger backup battery so it could continuously record to an a sd card contuineusly and add a battery so if it’s unplugged there’s backup and they could change it to motion recording only and maybe an inside camera with an led and maybe a power open and maybe they can work with companies how their devices THATS used for delivery so if it’s near them it can unlock if it’s assigned for them like amazon key
If you want us delver drivers to use them ditch the codes to open them. Leave them unlocked put a scale at the bottom and have them automatically lock when it detects weight or a package. We really don't have time to mess with trying to open them we are on tight time schedules and I at least have 200 stops a day. Seconds turn into minutes, minutes turn into hours really fast.
That weight sensor is a good idea.
My box just has a handle, no tricks generally ignored
I worked for USPS for 2 years. I fully understand time sensitivity buildup. With multiple delivery services, locking the box at first package would be counter productive with the later deliveries, making the box useless.
How do you expect the box to provide security without it locking?!?
@@RichardsScott Simple porch pirates won't see a package from the street. Out of sight is useful.
I predict 99% of your packages will either be placed on your porch or on top of this box. Good thing Eufy sent it to you at no cost. $400 is ridiculous.
In my testing, most of them dropped it off..there is only 1 person that didn't bother and another one because the package was too big. I think most of them stop and use it because it is something they haven't seen before.
Yep, over priced piece of junk.
@@LifeHackster just as you say because they haven't seem it before, i worked for amazon delivery in the past and i would be honest i wouldn't take 10sec extra to open it and put it inside unless it a city i know people steal a lot i hide packages or use this.
99.97%
@@shanew7361, you shouldn't buy one. No need to complain and yell names.
Peace
I think the real solution is to get these things partnered with the shipping companies, so they can easily open them by scanning the tracking code, and also are obligated to use them when available.
Like "PopBox" in Malaysia
This is pointless as no Amazon driver will waste their time.
@@common_c3nts If it is partnered, delivery companies can keep track if there is a drop box at the delivery address, and if yes if it has been used, and if no dock it from their pay, like they do with everything else...
Nooooo bad idea cause then you’ll have to use their own containers for each Courier
I'm with everyones view of delivery people. They would not bother using it if they can save 10 seconds and just toss it
They would walk right pass it
Yes but then that would give us the right to sue the delivery company. As they did not follow the correct rules to stop theft on packages
That's a US problem though. In other (civilized) parts of the world, delivery people actually have to ring the doorbell and wait for you to answer. They can't just leave packages without your permission (although most do leave them if a safe, hidden location is available), and they most definitely can't just toss the package somewhere near your front door. Opening a box will always be quicker than waiting for somebody to open the door, so yeah, this works fine. Once again, it's the US mentality that's the issue.
@@timderks5960 hey we get it you don't value other people's time.
@@foodhatesme Lol, you base that on what, the fact that people actually want to receive their stuff instead of having it stolen? If you seriously think it's better to just toss packages near the front door because it's "more time efficient" for the delivery people than to have your packages actually arrive safely, in a country that is PLAGUED by porch thieves, you're insane. But hey, anything to keep up the insane hallucinations of "USA #1", right?
I really like it . Telling the delivery guys to close the top is very important, and should be said within 3 seconds after pin is enter.
Also a “thank you” should be said when delivery guys close the top. It will make them feel better lol
Maybe a quick fix for this version, would be to tape a note to the inside of the lid to tell them to close the lid manually.
And a slot for a treat after they dropped it off..like give them some chocolates and once they take the treat, it should say “good boy” that’s a good boy! 🐩🐕🦺🦮🐕
All it takes is one package with the PIN sitting outside the box to make this box merely a minor inconvenience to a porch pirate.
True, but you can always change or delete the codes remotely.
@@LifeHackster by the time you realize you need to change/delete codes, they've already stolen everything
@@LifeHackster and once you change the code, all the codes printed on shipping labels already sent out will be invalid.
It should have a barcode scanner to scan tracking numbers and unlock that way.
I think a better idea would be for the packages to slide/move into a locked compartment once the lid is closed. No pin required... and all the delivery drivers can stop complaining that taking 3 seconds to type in a code adds up.
I guarantee once these become more common, couriers will end up having to train employees to use them and as long as the package fits, they’ll have to use them lol.
That's true. Especially now that more package thefts are occurring.
I will take that bet. My box has been ignored from before Amazon made deliveries.... years 8 or 9.
Unless it’s branded by Amazon. There’s been a box out for a couple years already. Never got anywhere.
Yesterday, Amazon placed a small box on top of my parcel box. I tried to link a photo but apparently that's no allowed
In Germany were trials. Not enough adoption rate than any courier would care in practice.
More than half my deliveries are tossed onto the porch. I'm lucky if they even ring the doorbell. They're in such a rush. Hard to see drivers taking time to use the box.
yeah sometimes they just toss on the driveway not even near the door.
Good luck with that if the seller is using USPS. I’m just glad they dropped it at the right house. Or the right neighborhood at this point.
I thought of the idea several years ago in my head. I am glad someone made it a reality
Deal beakers for me are: No auto closing of the lid, no option for using memory card to be used without homebase, no hardwired power option, and the reminder to close the box should be immediately after the box opens. Most delivery drivers when they press my eufy video doorbell are already walking away after they press the button. Keeping that in mind, a minute after the box has been opened the driver is already back in their vehicle and driving away (assuming they used the box in the first place).
Great observations, important.
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lol... true. But at least (as far as I could tell from this video) it uses a dimple lock which would be harder for amateur lock pickers to open. And the built in video camera would quickly indicate that something is up and you could trigger the alarm on it.
Can confirm, A good friend of mine who works in tech / with expensive computer parts and things, bought one of these big enough to fit ultrawide monitors and stuff, its gotten used maybe 3x and was a huge waste of money because the delivery people never use it
Since there is a camera, there is an opportunity for a QR added to the shipping label and used to unlock the lid removing the need for a pin plus it can be unique to each transaction.
It likely require to work with companies such as Amazon to introduce such a feature, yet it's doable and can benefit all parties.
it works with Amazon key
You're lucky if the delivery person even makes it up to the porch. Amazon is the worst! They toss it from 10+ feet away. No knock, no doorbell ring (Too much trouble). So 95% of delivery people will most likely not use it. Nevertheless, great review as always.
:) It really depends on the delivery drivers in your area.
@@LifeHackster Agreed
I absolutely love your videos. You're always so thorough, and your lovely accent is a bonus. Thank you!👌🙋♀️
Thanks so much! 😊
Eufy should have installed a screen on the inside of the louvers to help keep bugs and spiders from nesting inside the container.
Lol...that was literally my first observation.
I agree.
Greetings from Torrance! What a very cool box. There are some improvements that can be made, but the general idea is very sound. The next generation will be self closing, have more verbal instructions, and a 10 key pad, but if you receive multiple packages a week, this would be a good investment. Anything that could block the view of porch pirates is definitely a deterrent. Thanks again for your great work!
True. This is something new and when this catches on, then more companies and more features will be added. Thanks.
They used to make homes with mail drops on a side of a house, but most were through the door. If you could implement this to be part of the home and you can have a second door open from inside you could automate a robot to take the boxes out of the bin
Thank you for the excellent and early review! Having to enter a pin and close the lid is pretty annoying and time consuming for delivery drivers, who already have a tough job.
It would be great if Eufy could find an alternate solution to the pin entry and auto close the lid after few seconds to make it less annoying to deliver.
I agree.
I have been waiting for this. Best UA-camr ever
Thank you.
$400 is totally reasonable given all the work that goes into it. I actually tried making one myself about 2 years ago, made out of wood and some hardware from home depot lol but I got quickly overwhelmed with the electronics and safety precautions to prevent, let say kids trying to hide inside and then become trapped in it. There is videos here in youtube of people building their own delivery boxes. Plus it wasn't going to look as neat as Uefy's. I just hope more companies come up with their own delivery boxes. I mean Amazon already did this with their lockers they have at certain locations. I might buy this
@jshowa o I thought about that too but I don't own it, I rent 🤷♂️
It’s on sale for 170 right now. I’m getting one.
Thanks for your review LifeHackster!
Great solution! Unfortunately, delivery people are lazy. They just care about dropping it off. They don't even ring the bell anymore. I agree need some mechanism to integrate with carriers. Amazon' key (garage delivery model) works great. Maybe incentivize the carriers to build the integration? Similar to a signature confirmation service, the delivery person will scan the Eufy Smart Delivery box and use a secure code (I imagine via Bluetooth) to open the smart box using their handheld mobile device and make the drop off. Once it closes, the transaction is concluded and notifications/confirmations are sent.
Seems like a couple of the delivery guys were surpised to see the box there as they were obviously not familiar but Im sure we sill start to see these boxes more and more. I like the fact that you explained were its best to type in the code. Over all great video as always.
I would encourage the delivery person with some free water or snacks along with instructions and my thanks for doing it, so at least they don't feel like they're doing extra work for nothing. Otherwise I think they'd use it the first time because of the novelty but then they would view it as a nuisance and don't bother.
That's a great idea!
Amazing review as always! I would absolutely love one of these except it seems that it really should have a motor to automatically close the box after. Maybe I’ll wait for that version in the future. Also Eufy in general is pretty awful about sticking to their promises about future updates so I wouldn’t hold my breath on homebase support. The homebase 2 for example still has no option to utilize the USB port and their cameras still have that devastating “sync” security flaw that they keep kicking the can on.
That’s being picky though, this is a pretty cool device compared to what else is out there.
If anyone is planning on purchasing this for USPS delivers, hold off. UPS, possibly FedEx, and Dhl might use it but the Post Office flat out refuses because they have to put in a code, and that's too time-consuming. I specifically bought this for USPS because they won't put my packages over the fence but after it's all set up, it's a no go.
I fill the can use at lease the cheap actuators to open and close by self, the app shout by work with gps so you can share the tracking number with the box and the box will know where os the packet, the way when the delivery truck gets close will be open by self and close after 1 minute
That would be a good idea and feature to integrate on future versions of this.
@@LifeHackster i buy the eufy battery pack for the homebase 2 because of u review is good to see the pros and the cons
Why not just a heavy one-way trapdoor dropbox? No need for smart features.
That can be an option. Businesses here have those.
Those boxes are made of steel and run about $200-$250.
I got the Penn Elcom Large Parcel Box which is exactly this. It was expensive but it's a one way simple drop door. No pin or battery to worry about
Needs to be a QR type scanner to open by delivery guys.
I think its a great first start. I'm with a lot of people though, if I got it for review from Eufy I would gladly use it, but at the current price for a first-gen item that clearly needs some improvements, I would pass.
I'm very concerned about when you build it, you have access to the screws from the outside. (If I'm remembering from the video correctly regarding putting all the side panels on). They need to build the entire unit so you are only accessing screws from the inside of the box.
And not being able to close it remotely or where you can set it to close by itself when someone walks away is a big deal to me.Again, I get it. Its the first Generation and that would add even more cost. Its still a good product without those features and I hope other companies will take note and build their own versions with those things included.
Yes, there are screws on the outside but also on the inside and on the bottom which it will not easily take apart even when the exposed screws are unscrewed.
@@LifeHackster Ok thanks man. thats good to know.
I have had a wall mounted box for many years. Inside dimensions 16" deep, 18" wide and 20" high. It has a door with a pull handle and is plainly marked "parcel delivery". I don't use the lock which is designed to lock after the door is opened. The USPS is most likely to put parcels inside (Texas and we have rural mailboxes, so they understand boxes) but UPS, Fedex and Amazon only put 1 of 10 packages that would fit, inside. More often they place them on top to take a picture with their phones. I like the Eufy box but it's huge and I don't have room for it.... and I doubt it would be used much.
Great Video … I put up a tablet outside letting carriers know that we have a pickup of packages to display on the tablet and also to let drivers know to take a water
So you could add a message on the tablet to inform drivers to look on the label to put the code for the box
Go get a private mailbox at a mailbox store. You can get more 1-2 years for the price of this thing and you never have to deal with delivery people throwing your stuff out on the deck, your security will be better than this, and you never have to deal with being home to sign for things.
And you will have the inconvenience of driving to that store every time you receive something...
you guys in the US dont need this box but a whole rehaul of the delivery system . In germany the delivery person just rings the bell and gives you the packege directly to the person (most times you need to sign something to reassure it was delivered ) otherwise they take the package back and leave a note with information where YOU can pick your package up if you werent home. the only time where the delivery person leaves a packege at the location is when they can contact your neighbour .
Solar powered battery charging
Say "Thank You" after the lid is closed by delivery person
I agree. Or better if you can record and customize the recording.
Imagine if the smart drop got stolen when it was delivered😂
Another solid, thorough review. Thanks man.
My pleasure!
I think the one delivery guy in the red shirt thought the box was automatically going to close lol. They should add a motor to the lid so it can close and open automatically. That way if the lid is left open the box will close on its own!
I know. That would have been a great feature.
I've seen a DIY version that had motors that open and close the lid. It was painfully slow to open compared to the gas lift.
Best bet is to get a heavy concrete slab or even make your own and attach the box to the slab. The slab should be heavy enough (mix in heavy weights or stone?) that a opportunistic thief will give up. However if won't prevent a determined thief that has planned to take the unit. Obviously attaching it to a wall or floor will be more secure if that options is available to you.
Also, a box-sized mailbox slot on your garage door with a padded receptcle behind. Cost: $20.
One package left on your porch and seen by a porch pirate, your box is compromised. Codes need scanned with camera as QR codes by the driver.
True but because it should detect anything, you would know if it was compromised, you can easily change or delete the codes.
@@LifeHackster but then all the subsequent packages would be left outside the box (the code has changed) so the box is still not useful.
@@LifeHackster True, just seems like it could be a distraction over time. Keep us posted.
@@stargate25645 Not really, you just need to generate another code again and edit or add it to your next order.
@@LifeHackster except the orders already placed would not be able to be updated. There are times when one has several items being shipped simultaneously.
I bet most delivery drivers will not bother with it. Good idea otherwise.
not really....carriers can make it mandatory for drivers to place in drop boxes
I feel like there is a need for these boxes especially for the areas I deliver in because a lot of people have dogs loose or gated driveways so it would be nice to have a safe place to put a package. And for those who had or are still having bad experiences with drivers, report them. You might think nothing happens but they will be reprimanded. Trust me I know, I've lost 4 co workers in the last 2 weeks due to bad costumer compliance. If enough complain we can actually get people who cares about doing there job right. no matter how much it sucks. And I'm saying this knowing if one is fired my job gets harder. but if i cant get good people in then everyone can have a nice day.
I'm interested in something like this, since my carriers can't seem to put my deliveries off the side so they aren't seen from the street. I even have a sign out showing them where to put the boxes, yet many ignore it. But, at $400 this product is a pass.
Yes, it is on the steep side.
@@LifeHackster If they incorporated your improvement suggestions, then I might consider buying it.
Pretty nice concept and the product looks good for the first version, anyway the most important thing is how delivery people will need to adapt and invest the extra 10 seconds to use it, and thats the most difficult part about it, but as time goes on I'm pretty sure this will be something more common, also it would be nice to add a "thank you" or some catchy "success" sound when the delivery people close the lid.
This product is great! OK, it does have some caveats but it is still very interesting. In a few years, this kind of product will be more smart 👍
That’s an awesome idea. Thanks for sharing.
You are welcome.
So an issue i see with the PIN code been on the package label is if the delivery service doesn’t put the package in the Smart Drop anyone can pick up that package and use the code to open the smart drop and take out other package that’s in it. The code should be on the device the delivery service is carrying .
Thief picks up the whole box.
Eufy: *Surprised Pikachu face* 😳
I seriously doubt UPS drivers will bother will bother with this. They always leave packages at the very edge of the porch and run away as fast as possible.
Great review and the only thing I see that doesn’t look right is at 3:57 on the video it looks like you put the right hydraulic on upside down because it shows not to do that on the bottom right of the cardboard assembly directions. Thanks for the thorough review. Subscribed.
Cool idea but the first delivery person that leaves your package outside the box also leaves the pin number for the box and view of whoever is there trying to get into it. Not to mention all the delivery people who are in a hurry and don't want to screw around with your box.
I can make a stout and attractive wooden box much bigger than that with a simple padlock on it. Cost of $60 in materials. Delivery person drops the package in and snaps the padlock shut. If you won't be home, time your deliveries so that you don't get more than one per day. I'd also post a sign asking the delivery people to PLEASE use the security dropbox. You'd be surprised how cooperative people are if you just ask nicely.
I don't agree delivery people wouldn't use it, because I made a box like that for my elderly mother and so far, only one package hasn't made it into the porch box (but the FedEx guy hid the package BEHIND the box, so it still kinda worked!). And yes, there's a sign on the front of the box that asks delivery people to please secure packages in the box.
Why would eufy charge a cloud as your only option if you want to record video that dosnt make sense it dose make sense if it had internal storage like someof their the other outdoor or home base or an sd card
It will have homebase integration and recording soon.
I'm ignoring the fact that most US delivery people won't use this thing. Thankfully, there's other countries out there where packages can't just be tossed somewhere near the front door, and the delivery people actually have to wait for you to open the door, or come back on a different day. For them, this would be a big time saver.
More on the box though: It's too complicated. It's actually worse than just having one of those one-way lids. I'm not sure if they exist in the US, I'm pretty sure there's something like that out there, but in the Netherlands these lids are on so many containers. Underground garbage containers, clothing donation containers, you name it. Basically you open the lid, which provides a relatively small area for you to place your stuff. If you close the lid, it'll open on the other side, and allow the object you placed to drop into the box. Open the lid again, the other side closes and the front opens, ready for new objects.
No power required, no option for the 3rd delivery guy to leave the box open and still have all your packages stolen or get rained on, it's just better. Just add a camera and some kind of sensor to it and you have a much better solution that doesn't have any of the glaring issues that this box has.
For the record, the glaring issues:
- Reliant on delivery drivers closing the lid
- If you receive multiple packages on a day, everybody except the first guy has access to whatever's already inside the box
- Relies on battery power for main functionality
There's probably more, but these are the ones I have at the top of my head.
yes, the shipping company should take partner responsibility to prevent the porch pirates,
i saw lots condos have courier boxes, its quite pricey to buy this safe box.
Great Coverage a needed Item for many folks
Can't wait for the eufy garage door cam
I wonder how fast LPL can bypass it 🧐
This is a solution for US only. In other Countries like here in Germany delivery guys have to ring the bell to give the packages to you personally. If not they try to get a neighbor to take it or if nobody is at home they take it with them and drop it at the nearest post office, so you can get it from there a day after. It's not allowed to drop the package infront of your house if you weren't giving them permission to do so. So we don't have porch pirates here.
Looks like someone left a dishwasher sitting outside🤣
Wait…once it’s opened up, does it automatically close too or is it up to the delivery guys to close it afterwards too. If it is they might as well leave behind or on the side of the box than go through all the hassle
They have to close it. It only opens.
1. Put a box code when you order
2. Delivery person decides to just leave the package next to the eufy
3. Porch pirate looks at the package, sees the box code, and then opens your eufy too
$400!?! Oh wow....... so glad Amazon garage thing works in my neighborhood. Much cheaper and all packages fit lol
Too high
@@gifts4everyseason yep. And it was $30 to buy the garage opener thing from Chamberlain then got a $30 off my first key Delivery order
@@WhoMikeO thanks for the recommendation
I would feel more comfortable at a $300 price point. Really like it and Eufy has some good products. Thanks for the video
Thanks for watching!
hey LF , after watching your review of the wyze cam floodlight i was left astonished ! cheap floodlight with a wyze cam v3 for $100, local storage , additional usb port to add another v3 for more coverage , etc etc . i went ahead and bought the wyze cam floodlight after weeks of research and i honestly am regretting it . theirs two known bugs that users are experiencing and that wyze knows about and is currently working on an update for it . the two bugs are when you open up the live view the floodlights turn on and when you’re viewing the live feed and motion is detected the floodlights will turn on it . this is really annoying . my floodlights are turning on and off all night . i manually turned off the floodlights bc it’ll be on and off all night . wyze is working on an update but the question i have is will the update fix it and is wyze good at fixing these issues … i have until the 23rd of january to return the floodlight . should i return it or wait for the update ….
What I know about Wyze is that they are continually releasing updates..but also when they fix one bug, it seems like another one takes it place..
I got one the other day, and the box is set up for permanent wiring using a hole on the back and a socket near the battery so it’s not dependent on the battery.
Mine just arrived from the Kickstarter! It looks huge 😂
Not bad but there should be an internal mechanism to open the box from inside in case of 'an emergency'
There may be one. Probably easily exploitable by the Lock Picking Lawyer.
It would be good to have a mode that has the first time you open it you just have to press the button the button then next time you need the pin so that drivers don’t need to have a code to put something in but you need a code to take it back out.
What I don't get is - why are packages being left on door steps? I'm in the UK and every packaged is signed for or left in a safe place, i.e not outside...
7:10 Ah ha... there goes the feature I was hoping it would have 🙌🏿
Send it to the lockpicking lawyer 😂
:)
Great review! I wonder if eufy can make the door open from the front instead of on top. I think people would more likely to close it after delivery since it's more intuitive.
I think having a physical code is better than something wireless. As we seen home security systems has been broken in with key fobs.
Let's hope these have no weak points for forced break ins but idk if people are even gonna try that just to steal a package.
Are there any statistics you can provide us with in terms of the number of deliveries you got compared to the number that actually placed it in the box?
In my testing, there is only 1 that didn't even bother and another just because the box is too big. My USPS guy which you saw on the video places it in the box and has learned it and is the one that delivers to the house 90% of the time.
@@LifeHackster That’s pretty great, thank you for the information!
@@johnbod I have had a smaller simple box for years. USPS uses it. UPS, FedEx and Amazon 1 out of ten. Mine is plainly marker "Parcel Delivery" and has a simple door to open. I just wanted parcels out of sight. I have seen many doorbell cam videos of them putting the parcel on top of the box to take a picture. I wish I had just put a big flower pot that would block the view of porch pirates.
Great review
Thanks.
But how do you get the security box delivered to your porch before you have the security box? 🤔
:)
Light weight, app is hard to set up wont pair with my internet and alarm keeps going off within a couple seconds.
Thanks for sharing.
if you let the user customize the code, it will be 1234 most of the time. not allowing the user to customize the code is a good thing.
Fed Ex will definitely set your packages on top of the box.
I am half way on the video and I wished this product had mail box feature. The ability to receive letters/documents to substitute a conventional mail box. Might as well since this is such a big unit on your property. You have to agree with me on this one. Why have a mail box and this big unit in front of your door or property?
Here the delivery guys are required to ring the door bell. For me, it's easier and cheaper to put an empty trash bin and attach a note over my bell, "put packages in the green trash bin near the door".
No one (unless people who read this) will know that green trash bin is full of packages or even food lol
Can you make a video on how to connect the Smart Delivery Dropbox to the Homebase 3? So much mixed information about the Smart Delivery Box working with the Homebase 3.
This is a great idea 💡 these people need to go to shark tank
If they can open it then drop it inside then it lock. That’s much better.. I wouldn’t even bother if I was a delivery guy who gave to look for a pin..
Looks promising but, they have a lot of room for improvement. 😀
Why dont we put these next to the mailbox? Saves the driver time and if it was made to automatically close it prevents accidentally leaving the lid open.
I wonder if it would be easier to just have a barcode scanner for the delivery person to just scan the shipping label.
A quick lookup on the carrier's site to make sure the parcel is currently out for delivery to my address and, if so, pop the lid.
If it's a carrier that we don't support then just ring the smart doorbell and the property owner pops the lid on their smart phone.
Using a linear actuator alongside a strut would mean the box would open automatically and could also close automatically if the delivery person doesn't push the open/close button after placing the parcel inside (a simple ir beam sensor across the top should pickup something going in) and then start an ~60 second timer.
Additional BOM costs wouldn't be much for way more convenience.
i like the idea, but there is no incentive for delivery people to use it.
Ok Ring needs to get on it cause I don't need another subscription or camera app lol
the plate that you put in (45 kgs), wasn't it too much weight for the floor of the unit? In your opinion, can it still handle a bit more? If so, how much more you recon?
This feels kinda weird. It’s not like doorbells cameras now I’m not sure if people are going to treat this the same because they are so used to leaving things at the door and there is this new thing. While it’s going to slow down theifs couldn’t rhe theif do the same thing from the Eufy as the mailman? It would be better if there was something like a one way box like one that lets packages go in but you must unlock it to get it like some of those mailboxes
That's what I was thinking. You can install a one way door in a wall or anywhere and it would be cheaper and much more useful since the delivery guys don't need to bother with pin numbers or anything, they just toss the package in there and that's it. And porch pirates can't get to it, save for completely destroying the door and causing property damage, which they won't do.
This thing is awesome!!
Good idea but poor execution. It's too time consuming and complicated for Delivery people that are making 100-200 stops per day. All that is needed is a box where the top, when opened, blocks access to the bottom of the box...kinda like how vending machine doors close off access to the inner snacks when you're getting what has dropped down after a purchase. No electronics needed and delivery guys are more likely to use it cuz it doesn't take up their time.
Hope to see eufy dual camera video doorbell soon 🙏
I'll be checking it when it comes out.
$400 for this? Costco had another brand last year (this same size) for $40. It doesn't have IoT functionality, but it gets the job done. I have mine paired with a $40 Ring camera.
The key to these is that you need to be able to leave them closed but unlocked, so the delivery driver doesn't have to key in if it doesn't have anything in it .. way easier for them. Unless you're away or getting multiple deliveries a day, it won't slow them down any.
I could see the potential if they added a plug and a sd card so and a bigger backup battery so it could continuously record to an a sd card contuineusly and add a battery so if it’s unplugged there’s backup and they could change it to motion recording only and maybe an inside camera with an led and maybe a power open and maybe they can work with companies how their devices THATS used for delivery so if it’s near them it can unlock if it’s assigned for them like amazon key
If this will catch on, there a lot of other features that they can add.
Quick question - what Drill bit size did you need for drilling into the group to secure the box? Thank you