I took my A7r4 to Italy this summer and didn't have any trouble. I think the key is not making yourself a target by bringing lots of gear. I traveled light, just bringing my 35mm lens and using my camera strap and no bag. I'm so glad I brought a real camera with a fast lens. It helped me capture things I would have otherwise missed.
I came close to being robbed in Florence back in 2019 and I think the one single gear that made me stand out was my tripod. I carry around a RRS TV-24 which is a great tripod but at the same time it's rather large and bulky and it does indeed stand out. I'm not sure why Italy has such a problem with this but it is a real issue and in the future my plan is to bring my Z bodies instead. Both my Z6 and Z7 are small enough to gather too much attention whereas my D810 and D850 with their respective lenses really really does stand out.
Most cities in Europe are safe and you will see a lot of ppl with expensive cameras ! Just take your camera and enjoy it at full potential , this is what was built for , it will be obsolete in 5-10 years anyway ! I had the same problem before going to Italty this summer and after a full week in Rome walking and taking the public transportation everywhere I can tell you " TAKE YOUR CAMERA" , put the camera bag in front of you in crowded places and you will be more than fine ! This is the main purpose of a CAMERA shooting, do not keep it locked in closet !
I agree (I'm from Germany). Europe is generally safe with a few risky spots. But good luck trying this strategy in Brazil. I was robbed countless times over the past 10 years. I stopped taking any equipment on the streets (no watch, no fancy clothes either). My camera only comes out on day trips and in group settings etc.
@@bretthickman I agree with you on physics but …. I would not take on a trip my Sony A100 or 5d Mk 1 nowadays … they are collecting dust for at least 10 years in my “hall of fame” closet ! They still work but the card used in them, the focus system , the MP count … you get my point …there are just so much better alternatives to use right now !
On a recent trip I took an inexpensive Canon RP and an old EF 28-200. I generally shoot with a Canon R5, which I find too heavy and big to lug while traveling,and too expensive to risk. In the past my travel camera was an APSC, but the RP is lighter, smaller and it is full frame. Theft or damage of the RP is more tolerable compared to the R5. The RP with a single lens was also less of an annoyance for my travel companions. So far this seems a reasonable choice. The RP was bigger and heavier than my iPhone 14 Pro Max, but it got much better results. Thanks for a very practical discussion.
Ok, good. I’ve been waiting for someone to bring this up. I have a canon rp, bought it because of the compact full frame potential it has for street. And would constantly use it if it wasn’t for the…..very annoying loud shutter sound it makes ! Not conducive to candid street photography at all. Have you had this problem? I mean, I’ve contacted canon about this and there is almost nothing to do to make it silent. Except put it on automatic, thereby limiting its function. Or bracketing, which takes several photos. Not practical !
When I went to Italy and met up with my Italian friend, he didn't even want me opening the trunk of the rental car to search for something in my suitcase because of theft. I was shocked honestly at how stern and paranoid he was about me showing even a whiff that I was there on vacation. I had to use my phone which sucks because we went to Rome, Pompeii and others places in Sicily. I own the R5 so better to be safe and paranoid than sorry I suppose. When the locals say beware, you listen or go in a big group.
@@TomasRamoska He never said anything about illegal immigrants. He said it was because of the mafia actually. Also, not trying to tell you how to live, but I really hope you are not stereotyping immigrants and throwing all the problems of a country on them. Maybe I am misunderstanding your intent with your comment.
I've been robbed before... in a nice neighborhood in Los Angeles. And it was out of my car, that I neglected to lock. Theft sucks, but this is why it pays to have insurance. ESPECIALLY if you're a professional. But even after that miserable experience, I would absolutely bring my R5 to Italy for vacation photos. Actually, it'd probably be WORSE if my phone was stolen while I was traveling...
@@ColinRobertson_LLAP Yeah I need to look into insurance for my camera for sure. I mainly use it at my job so I never think about that till I have to travel outside of my bubble. My friend was just so adamant about hiding my suitcase, and anything that could be seen as valuable. He actually gave me a look as if he was yelling "Are you insane?!" because I wanted to open my suitcase in public. He was the one that told me to just to use my cellphone to take pictures. At that point we were in Naples which he said is horrible when it comes to theft. He reminded me once again in Sicily. I just had no idea it was that bad.
There's a format called Micro 4/3 which is extremely portable and unobtrusive if you choose carefully. I can cover almost anything with a tiny Laowa 7.5mm ultrawide, a Lumix 20/1.7 pancake lens, and a tiny Olympus 45/1.8 prime which I use on a tiny camera. If I want to shoot longer there are very small 35-100 and 45-150 zooms. The dilemma is reduced in size along with the equipment.
Olympus is basically dead in the water, the Olympus corporation sold off the camera division to japanese corporation JIP after a massive scandal uncovered decades of covered up losses. There will never be another camera made with the Olympus name, and along with it, Micro 4/3 will likely follow the same fate. Which is a shame, because I started shooting with an Olympus e-520(?) from 2008 and it definitely has it's own style. My 300-600mm compact 4/3 lens is also now pretty much junk.
@@mike969696 Whether you find it canny that quality cameras continue to work as advertised, that's up to you. The point is that replacement OEM parts and new cameras and lenses will not be made. Are you willing to continue buying existing products from a company that is discontinuing support and exiting the market?
Your experience is exactly why the OMDS OM-5 with 12-45mm F4 (24-80mm FF) is a seller for travel. Simply look past opinions that MFT is "dead": the IBM Mainframe has been "dying" for the past 30 years, and today in 2023 the IBM Mainframe is still strong. MFT is still here in 2023 with new products solving the issues outlined in your video at the size and weight one desires for travel.
It seems like for a lot of the issues mentioned a good compromise would be to use an apsc or a m43 set up. You wouldn't have all the benefits of full frame but the gear would be easier to carry and its less expensive if something does happen to it
You are so right with the GPS tagging. I found the best combo for me on vacation. I now have a Sony RX10 IV and my S22. I have a small leather sling bag with the camera water bottle and anything else I need with my phone in my pocket. I use a USB hub to copy the days photos to another SD card for backup using the S22. As an additional benefit I can use the hub with HDMI to look at photos or watch movies on the hotel TV. No laptop needed.
As someone who lives in London U.K. and regularly travels around Europe, I have had no issues at all. European cities mostly only have low-level crime (such as pickpockets) but if your sensible it’s not an issue. This year I’ve travelled to Italy, Hungary and Czechia and have always felt safe and comfortable carrying a camera - I would never leave home without one! I love my iPhone, but it doesn’t hold a candle to my Canon R7! 🙂
I was in Venice in 2021 with my friend (I'm Italian), and I have to say pickpockets can be a real pain in the ass, but especially in bigger train and metro stations. Not too many people in that November period. I took with me my old Canon 450D camera, but not the whole package of lenses (too many things to carry). I have to say I took much more photos with my cameraphone eventually.
Especially I was wondering from an American perspective. If you have ever been in San Francisco downtown recently, almost every place in Western Europe seems to be a safe area. But of course Europe has many no-go areas as well.
I agree that you wouldn’t want to take loads of lenses just for the inconvenience of having to carry them around. I generally only take two - a wide angle 10-18mm for inside shots of cathedrals etc. and an 18-150mm for external shots (and of course I have my iPhone Pro-Max too!). You can get amazing shots on the iPhone, but where the camera excels are for those late evening sunset, twilight and nighttime landscapes/architecture shots (long exposure low light and I love a sun-star!). I do take a reference shot with the phone for GPS purposes, and I do wish cameras had GPS! Safety wise I think Europe / USA / world are no different - there are rough places and safe places. I felt safe with a camera in NYC, and in Dubai. Just research the location. I’m going to Egypt in a few weeks, and South America next year so researching what’s/where’s safe or not!
I took my camera gear to Brazil and ended up shooting all the beautiful scenery with my phone in fear that my gear would get stolen. Sucks to travel so far and be stuck with a phone for image capture so I understand your pain.
Perhaps this is where a good travel camera might be a good happy medium , plenty of the decent less expensive travel cameras have lenses that actually telescope and have most of the usual settings a proper serious camera has way better than a crappy smart phone.
I am really disappointed with this campaign against iphone by the Northrups!!! It has started with the iphone 15 launch, and they keep depreciating iphones’ cameras since then. They should focus on the equipment limitation and work around it with what is available and works.
I'm an American living in Europe since 1998, and I've done travel photography in many countries, both in cities and out in the wildlands. While in cities, I usually hide my Canon R6 in a Peak Design 6L sling, as the bag does not look like my Lowa or other camera bags, and it is not big enough to peg me as a tourist carrying potentially valuable stuff. Also, no selfie stick, no trucker cap, no Hawaiian shirt, no t-shirt with a huge logo on it, no backpack with a big water bottle, and no big fancy tripod with garishly anodized parts that scream "steal me!" The whole idea is to blend in with the locals rather than sticking out. The PD 6L sling bag is large enough to carry the camera body with the RF 70-200 f/2.8L mounted, but that lens will attract more attention than I want in some cities, so I usually make do with the RF 24-105L or RF 100-400 (non-L). For additional security when shooting with my iPhone, I have it in a Peak Design Everyday Case with an Anchor Link that keeps my phone attached to one of their Cuff straps around my wrist. I'll be taking those items to the heart of Mafia-land (Naples and Sorrento) in a few weeks and again to Porto soon after that. Hoping that it goes well, as it has on every other trip over the past several years. PS: I did some bird photography last week in Stockholm with a borrowed, uninsured Canon R3 with their RF 1200 f/8 L lens. $25000 worth of perhaps the least discreet rig I have ever used while on a public walking path at a city park. About 10 of us were trying out ALL of the big whites and switching between all of their current mirrorless camera bodies. No need for security guards. We were honestly much more worried about dropping the big heavy equipment than we were about theft.
Honestly, this is why I have travel cameras, and they aren't expensive ones either. Just get something that is maybe 1 or 2 gens back from any brand really, for me it's the Fuji X-E3. Just use that to fill that space.
Exactly. This is where cropped sensor APSC or Micro 4/3s cameras shine. And a used camera is the way to go. I take my Fuji XT20 and the kit 18-55 level with me when I travel.
@@catlike1 always loved the XTs they probably make amazing travel kit! I used to use a M4/3 as my travel kit it’s actually my recording kit now, the stabilization in body is amazing on M4/3
I think you make some really good points and confirm my view that the smartphones are still way off the quality that a photographer can achieve with a camera. I do have to leap to the defence of Italy however. I have been there many times on vacation over the years and I have never even contemplated leaving my cameras at home. I have never been robbed either.
I can't believe you would not take your camera such a significant location, as a photographer I also see the world through my camera in a very different way than through my phone or my eyes. I live in Tenerife - Spain with relatively little crime and travel to Barcelona a few months ago where I was told things were drastically worse; but I never left my camera out of my hands always kept a close to my buddy and since I was taking pictures most of the time it wasn't uncomfortable at all, also out of common sense I avoided going to the worst neighborhoods in the city us advice by people all over I. I have some of the best memories not just from the photos with the little extra time I took this covering the details in the architecture just because I paused to focus and compose my photos. I believe photography made me enjoy my visit a lot more, and I only use my photos in restaurants where I cared more for the delicious Catalan food anything else. And when I got back home editing brought all this wonderful moments in Barcelona.
So glad I stumbled upon this video! I'm literally leaving for Italy in a week and was debating whether or not I should just use my phone for taking pictures or if I should take my Canon R6 Mark II (which I just bought), an EF 24-70 F2.8 II, and an RF 35mm 1.8. I was more worried about the size and weight and having to carry it all around while walking miles everyday. I think it ultimately came to asking myself, "Do I want my pictures to look different and have a sense of depth/feel to it, or will I be satisfied with the all too conmon "smartphone" look?" Grateful for T&C's insight and all of your comments! 🤓
I loe how practical and candidly you speak about camera tech, as a photographer! (And not as just another tech channel.) You speak so personally and openly about dilemmas and ideas, reasons for doing XYZ etc.. This is why I trust your opinions over others.
Whenever I travel with my wife I leave the big-rig camera at home because I already know she's not going to be happy with me fiddling with it and getting the perfect shot. Samsung S22 Ultra to the rescue. The zoom is great and its good enough for memories.
Thanks, both of you, for this video, and special thanks to Chelsea for your appreciation of the viewfinder. I feel that the lack of a viewfinder is a deal-breaker when I'm shopping for a new camera. I too like that feeling of blocking everything else out. I also like the added stability of being able to brace the camera against my body.
These experiences make the Sony APSC cameras so appealing. Take one of them with a sigma 18-50mm lens and you’re covered in most situations. So easy to carry it around and get photos that won’t disappoint you.
you mean a gx9 + pana-leica 12-60mm 2.8-4 right? fingers crossed a mark II follows the new g9 II release. would be the ultimate travel shooter w/ hybrid PDAF/CD.
I completely agree with your disdain of phone cameras. My most frequent and practical use for my phone camera is when I do the shopping and I need more info than just a list, so I shoot a label of anything in the pantry when I need that info. Thanks for the great video.
When I'm traveling, particularly out of country, I take my phone (Samsung S22 Ultra right now) and a Sony RX100-VA which are both pretty easily hidden or disguised to make them less tempting to thieves as well as being extremely easy to take with me. I'm very fond of the VA due to its size, the 24-70 lens (1.8-2.8f), and 1" sensor, tile screen and tiny popup viewfinder. Photos are quite good with both. Of the two, I strongly suggest the RX100 series with the accessory leather case that comes with a neck strap. Putting the strap around my neck makes it very easy to slide the camera under a jacket flap to hide it until I'm ready to take a photo. I would love to send you a couple of sample photos from each so you could see how well they both do their jobs. My other cameras are Sony apsc 6000 and 6500 with several different lenses both of which I've had for several years and also enjoy. Even though they both serve me well and are fairly small, they are still quite obvious to everyone around me.
I have the Sony RX100Vii 24mm-200mm zoom f2.8-4.5 and the leather case like you have. Yours is certainly better in low light than mine but I love the reach the Vii has and using Clear Image Zoom (only in JPEG), I can reach a 400mm equivalent for both photos and videos while still maintaining good image quality. I've considered selling it many times but it's just great to have a feature-rich, pocketable camera that I can take with me anywhere.
@dalejones146 I picked the VA for the low light as a used camera. It has clear image zoom also, so gets to abour a 135mm equiv. We visit a lot of interiors ( cathedrals, etc.,) so the lens works out well. I've also considered getting the longer lens model just for the extra flexibility you mentioned. I must say, though, that this RX100 series is an excellent travel and under the radar camera. I'm happy with it.
I should note: in pixel 7 pro: the computational photography and "raw" gets baked into the raw file....no matter what mode you choose: even portrait mode.
I have to agree with most of our comments. I'm a retired commercial photographer after 35 years running my own studio. I have the same feeling Chelsea mentioned about not feeling as connected if my eye is not up to the viewfinder. Even when I shot with my Sinar 8 x 10 my eyes were only a few inches from the focus screen with a dark cloth over my head. I also need glasses for close up vision and have my Canon diopters adjusted for that. Also related to the tilt screen for those high or really low angle shots. I also find I can make spilt second adjustments while my eye is to my Canon viewfinders whereas I find it much slower with my phone to go into the settings to make adjustments. Usually with the phone I miss a quick shot due to this. I'm headed to Provence for a 2 week break and while I will have my LG phone and might use it I will mainly use my 2 Canon M5 bodies and 3 or 4 lenses I will carry in a small shoulder bag.
I've been using my Pixel 6 to take raw images and editing them in post, and have actually been pleasantly surprised. They merge a lot of the stacked image data into the raw, so you have great dynamic range there. I'm curious if iphone does the same thing. Hell, I'd love to see a phone raw file comparison video to see which phone's raw files edit best in post.
There are a number of test on UA-cam showing that iPhone 14 in raw is indistinguishable from good DSLRs in many situations. The pixel 6 is probably at least equal.
I had similar experience but all I had is a Samsung S22 ultra, as a professional photographer myself, I was amazed by the fact that I don't need my camera anymore for a lot of personal situations because the 4 different cameras on the S22 ultra and its rendering is incredible. I was iphone user for like 5 years, and it cost me half the price of an iphone 14 pro max, with 12gb ram and 256 gb.
As for me (as opposed to wifey, in previous post), I've come to make this compromise: either take a Tamron 17-28 and 28-200 - or - some combo of Samyang 18mm, Samyang 24mm, Samyang 45mm, and Samyang 75mm. Next major trip I may take just the 18mm and the Tammy 28-200 - I zoom more than I care to admit. I tried the ZV-1 that I got for my grandaughter and wow. Almost swayed me but I didn't pushed it hard. May have to find an RX VII and see how much I can push in LR/Topaz. Then again, this is getting into computaional looking pix. Physics sux.
Because a big full frame camera isn’t ideal, as a Smartphone isn’t good enough, I take a RX100VII with me. I also have the the GX5 MKII with it’s 24-120mm F1.8-2.8 and these both little cameras getting the job done in most situations. Especially the RX has such a nice, sharp lens. The 1“ is good enough and combined with LRs AI denoise, these little cameras are just perfect. I don’t have any fear to get a theft victim, as no one cares for these little cameras. So next time, maybe you should give them a try.
@@E6MND Of course, you can do it if you want to. I personally don't want to carry heavy gear , when I'm on vacations. Thats why I have gone for the 1" cameras for my private stuff. The RX100VII is very comparable with mFT in terms of max quality, as mFT has no ISO100.
I used to be a phone nerd, I thought I like using phone, but turn out, I only like using the camera of the phone because that's all I have. Last year I bought a Canon 550D, and since then, I barely use the phone ( and it's camera )
The phone is convenient for snapshots or informal video for a channel. I do love cameras but as I age, past injuries make my camera painful to carry these days. I agree, the camera is superior, but I agree that the phone has its place.
My main issue with phones is still that they don't have a shutter speed limit like the real cameras have, to always use the right shutter speed for action. As for GPS I sometimes track my walk with the watch and later sync positions in Lightroom.
I think a relatively cheap, used cropped sensor camera is good for travel when you’re a bit worried about theft. They are also quite compact and light.
Under perfect conditions, my iPhone13 takes stunning photos. It's "good enough" for the majority of smartphone users. That being said, my "old" Canon 5DM3 humiliates what my iPhone does. It's nowhere near the league of my Canon R5. I commend the great marketing of smartphone companies which imply that their camera systems are on the same level as a proper full-frame camera.
I think a big problem for people in living in north america is that you have such a small selection of phones available, as you completely miss the chinese phones. The only real alternatives you have to the iPhone are the Samsung phones and Sony. But as Samsung photos look way to artificial and the sensors are to small as well they are not really an option and the Sony is great because they give you way more control than the other phones, but hardware and software are also lacking behind. I mean obviously if you bring your professionell camera with different lenses and a tripod, no phone will be able to be as good, but I use a Vivo X90 Pro+ which is in general also not available here in Europe but it's pretty easy to get it. And the hardware is so much superior to the iPhone hardware, the lenses and the coating are also so much better. The Zeiss T* coating really helps, there is nearly no lens flair, compared to an iPhone it's day and night in that regard. But also the 1 inch main sensor helps a lot in situations with difficult lighting. Also the other sensors are bigger than on an iPhone or Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra and with 4 lenses with no big gaps between you get more variety than on an iPhone without the need to crop in that often. The bigger sensors give you a way better more natural bokeh which makes the seperation of a subject from the background way nicer. Also because off the partnership with Zeiss they have the expertise on how a photo should look like to be as close to an DSLR photo as possible. In this regard the bigger sensors also help as they don't need to that much computational photography. I really think the photos of that phone are way closer to a DSLR than of any other phone and especially compared to an iPhone. Also you get way more control than on an iPhone and the camera app saves the mode you were in last time you had the camera app open, so if you want to shoot RAW more or less all the time it will always be in that mode when you open the camera app and apply the last used settings. The color accurracy in Zeiss natural color mode is also outstanding and you have 2 others options for different look of the photos which are not a simple filter on top but really change the way the camera algorithm works. Also phones like a Xiaomi 13 Ultra are very impressive and on nearly on par with the Vivo X90 Pro+. I think you as professional photographers would have way more fun with these two phones and wouldn't have regretted not having a big camera with you as nearly as much as with the iPhone
Chelsea, I am shocked you dont carry a Sony RX100 VII in your purse to avoid ALL the reasons you guys poo-pooed on the smartphone. I have felt the same way about the shortcomings of smartphone cameras since 2017. I only use my smartphone camera for simple 'necessity' shots but almost never for photos I care to appreciate later.
Yes! I use an RX10 IV for my all-purpose photography. It is a lot bigger and would make me standout more but I can appreciate the IQ you get from these Sony 1” sensor cameras with Zeiss lenses. Although there may be benefits, you don’t really need a larger sensor for most circumstances.
I can fully understand the struggle for shooting photos with a phone, when you are used to a camera. I just went to Sweden and took wonderful pictures with my D780 and when I went to Stockholm I only had my IPhone 12 and I actually got a picture that really comes close to a perfect picture. But it only works with a phone when it’s already an overcast sky and not too much direct sunlight
You don't have to "reselect RAW every time" you use iphone - the setting sticks. Nobody's shooting live photos for anything serious, iPhone RAW edits pretty well in Lightroom, so yeah, just shoot raw and you'll be fine (so long as you remember is a tiny garbage sensor which pulls off decent shots due to multiple exposure stacking)
I have used smartphones, in an addition to pro gear, for several jobs, and nobody ever noticed, not even the designers who in fact often preferred the smartphone files. Of course, there are things smartphones can't do well (sport, wildlife) and their ergonomics is terrible, you are 100% correct about that, which is why when I travel, I pack a RX100VII (I took some of my best pictures with that camera) but there is NO WAY I would lug a DSLR + lenses!
Quick travel tip to Europe. Never use your phone openly in the big cities like London. It will get stolen by a guy on a bike.😢 when checking google maps just turn around and face a building. A camera is a lot less likely to get stolen, especially if you have a neck strap.
Tony&Chelsea thank you so much for this video, I am an old school photographer and it is important for me to experience the tactile sensations of the lens rings, the viewfinder and the shutter release, it is important for me to use a real camera and not the software contained in the iPhone, for me the camera in the iPhone is just a way to capture what needs to be written down on paper and nothing more, but when I want to be creative in photography, I take the camera and enjoy the pleasure of creating a photo and the iPhone pictures it really has nothing to do with that.
You guys really should try that phone that has the 1" sensor and variable aperture. I think it's a Huawei phone, not positive. But I'd be interested in your thoughts on it in raw and otherwise. It goes from f1.4? To f4 (relative ofc) with 10 STOPS BETWEEN THEM ALL! I'd LOVE to see that video!!! I think it's the Mate 50 Pro but don't quote me!
I recommend using the extension lenses with the x100v. They both are easy to carry around. They turn my x100f from a street photography camera in to a travel camera.
Like you've said many times before, it's time cameras get the same security features as smartphones. PIN, fingerprint and facial recognition to unlock the camera and the ability to brick the camera if it's stolen.
I took my Canon 5Dmk4 to Paris and It got very heavy to carry so I picked whether to take it depending on where we were going that day. I did use my cell phone quite a lot, especially on a very wet day when we went to the Louvre. No way anyone is getting a great picture with all the crowds! I have since bought an R7 specifically to be my travel camera. It takes great pictures and is much lighter. I hope it will be a good compromise. One reason to use a cell phone is if you want to be in the picture; everyone knows how to take a picture with a cell phone but you can't hand a DSLR to a waiter and ask them to take a picture.
It's funny...I just got back from Italy too, we could have run into each other in Florence or Venice! I wanted to pack light, so I just took a GX9 + 12-60 & 20mm f/1.7. All fit in a cross-body pack that I had slung around the front, so I wasn't too worried about theft. I used my iPhone 14 Pro Max for dinner pics and ultra-wide (in RAW). This combination worked as good as I could have hoped and I didn't feel too encumbered on the go.
Yes, The iPhone is not meant to be "the prime" camera, it is great backup and for video it is just great, for most cases.. And for social media use and most of other use cases it is enough good. It just works better than some other phones. No one is doing pixel peeping in social media to be honest and no one is not carrying real camera all the time but iPhone sticks there all the time and you can have great results with it, if you just focus on what you are doing.
At 13:40. Is chelsea saying the fuji x100v screen doesnt have a tilt screen? Which is not true. Not sure how an owner of that camera would say that. Did they even vacation in Italy?
If I am going somewhere where I have been before I'll take my film camera (to get any new photos) and have my phone as a backup, if I am going somewhere new, I'll set times to go shooting with the digital camera and be extra careful during those times and use the film/phone during the day for any random photos that might crop up. At the end of the day a modern phone camera is still better than the early digital cameras
I thought that’s what proraw was for. You shoot raw but also get the computational editing applied. Also, there is a setting for the camera app to remember what you previously used. So if you shot raw, it will still be set to raw the next time you use the app.
I think the fear of theft and pickpocketing is mythical and over stated, I am extremely absent minded and inclined to leave stuff behind all the time, I left my wallet on counter in Thailand, phone in Italy in tourist hot spots and have exclusively had them returned to me or retained by locals, I live in the UK and often have the same experience often, at home, I think some of this is driven by dishonest tourists jutifying habitual insurance scams more than actual thieves and opportunists, I have also had heard credible anecdotal evidence of backpacker, cheapskate tourists being way worse than locals who have an interest in the reputation of an attraction/resort for thier economics
Glad I found you guys. Now I kno to only use the 3 camera focal lengths and to not zoom into anything; to just move closer or further. Also to save my money and put the settings back to 12mp instead of the default 24mp they set so that I'll have to buy more icloud space. Thievery 🙄.
It's nice to know that professionals still make mistakes. On my trip to Italy I did take my DSLR, however, on our first day in ROME, I chose not to bring it... That was a dumb idea as I tried my very best to get a good shot of the Trevi Fountain with my iPhone. Needless to say, those were the worst pictures from our trip, but like Chelsea was saying, fine for the share, but disappointingly so. I hope to go back someday, but I'd probably opt out of taking the R5 and take the easier to travel with R50 and leave those white whales at home... unless I'm going to be making some extra quid on the photos that is! Thank you guys for keeping it real.
What about the the HEIF RAW file format exported from the iPhone 14 and 15 pro? Does that preserve all the computational information from the smaller size? I know the DNG Raw file is like you said, garbage at times, but would the HEIF RAW at 48MB be that middle ground where it retains the Apple computations? Or that middle ground of 48MB vs the 12MB found in the smaller formats?
I just got back from 6 days in Italy, brought my FujiX100f on a wrist strap and never once felt unsafe. And we walked 10 miles, 20K steps a day, I always had the camera in my hand unless it was in my small bag.
What the heck is Chelsea talking about? The Fujifilm X100V absolutely 100% has a *tilt screen!* Does she not actually know that? Wow Plus, you can do that old-time trick of tilting the screen and holding it over your head upside-down to operate the shutter release with your thumb.
Other reviewers are really praising the 48 megapixels raw, saying the resolution capture is truly 48 megapixels. Gerald Undone also tested the LOG recording to have 14 stops of dynamic range (better than FX3!) - any comment on that?
I recently took my g9, 2 lens (14-140) & 35mm f1.4 in a sling bag to Portugal. Worked great, and I was able to get photos faster then the guys using phones. culling & editing the 4000 raw photos took a while though.
Couldn't agree more with you. I have the full pro set up with the R5. On a Baltic cruise I used the G9 with three lenses - light, portable and produced great results.
Really? lol it’s simple, lack of incentives. What happens if your camera gets stolen? You buy a new one! 💰 💰 Implementing new hardware/software features COST money 💸💸 Hence no incentive.
As someone who has just ordered an iPhone 15 Pro (not Max) to improve the phone's photographic capabilities - but also as the owner of a Nikon D750, Fuji X-Pro3 and a Leica Q - this was the right discussion! I'm not really afraid of thieves, but once I was at a flea market in Bosnia with my Nikon and realised that if someone took it from me, they could live off it for a year.
Next time consider taking a Pany Fz 2500, 24~480mm built in zoom, f/ 2.8~4.5. It has a hand held night setting where it combines 4 or 5 shots of different ISO & shutter speeds in order to gather enough light. If it gets stolen its not like loosing an expensive camera & lenses. Adorama might have a used one for a good price.
We went to Venice this weekend and I brought an R8 and an R5 with 24-70mm F2.8, 70-200mm F2.8, a 50mm F1.2 and a 24-105mm F4. I carried either the small kit (R8 + 24-105mm) or the large kit with the R5, 24-70, 70-200 and 50 in a small backpack. It was worth breaking my back seeing the pictures that came out of the iPhone 14Pro Max compared to even the R8. The pictures even taken in the same place and at the same angles tell completely different stories just because of the way they are processed. I am never leaving house without at least a Canon M6 Mark II on me. I am now investing into more sling style bags so that I can always carry a camera with me.
Think Tank Rotation 22 pack with camera in the belt compartment and both the waist belt and chest strap buckled. Your gear is safe. The belt pack can be rotated forward for immediate accessibility while walking. What's in mine? A Sony a7Rv (or my Riv) w/ either the Tamron 28-200 or the Sony 4/70-200 Macro. If it's the 70-200, then on a neck strap I'll have either my Fuji x100v or my other 61mp Sony w/ the 4/16-35 PZ G.
Real variable aperture is there on Huawei P60 pro, Mate 50 and 60 Pro, goes from f4-f1.4, it's like 5 stops if I'm correct and it's very impressive, it's a shame you're in the US and you can only judge smartphone photography by iPhone, pixel or Samsung, which I believe they're not the best smartphones for photography.
FWIW before my last 3 trips to Italy, I put several strips of blue painter's tape on my camera and lenses, to give the impression that they were beaten up and old. I also obscured the branding. Over time, the tape builds up dirt and grime, which provides some protection to the gear and further adds to the impression that it's old, grimy, etc. (N.B. painter's tape comes off easily and won't leave a residue, even after a handful of years) I also avoided taking my camera out when other people were nearby. Of course, this isn't always possible, and would not prevent a thief from seeing my camera from a distance and coming over to try and steal my camera bag (a black, nondescript courie-style bag slug across the body). But some precautions are better than no precautions. There were also some itineraries where I wouldn't bring my camera, e.g. going out at night, going out for food, going to certain places, etc. Of course, much depends on luck too. There's no telling how much benefit my precautions provided. But in the states, I've had more than a few people give my camera sour looks, comment on its (apparent) poor condition, or ask if I was due for a new camera, etc. So at least some people were fooled. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Here's where smartphones have an advantage over traditional ILCs which is the ability to automatically store images into a central cloud computing server. This takes away the hassle of loading your RAM images into a photo editing library and going thru the process of actually doing image processing. That being said, these are features most photographers will accept as part of taking photos with an actual high end camera. Smartphones will always be limited by the small of their sensors. No amount of image processing software can change that one single aspect of the camera in an IPhone.
Why choose between the minimal (phone) and the best ( camera , tripod, lenses, filters) when there is still the possibility to carry a good point and shoot compact camera with you which is not too heavy to carry around and still gives you the opportunity to control the camera settings and flipscreens. Canon and Sony have got some interesting models.
I recently came back from a Vegas vacation and was a little disappointed by my phone photos but I just didn't want the hassle and anxiety of being responsible for taking my full frame mirrorless camera. It hangs around your neck like a noose, so easy to become distracted forget it, have it stolen or drop damage it. Instead of documenting my vacation spent enjoying it.
I am glad people are waking up to the disadvantages of smartphone photography. The only advantage is that you always have your phone with you. That’s it. I hope you enjoyed your vacation and thanks for sharing your thoughts.
That’s it mate , smartphones are good for happy snaps and the unexpected shots because they are the camera you have with you , but there is no substitute for a real camera.
As an enthusiast I like to travel with a real camera. Unfortunately my last trip I lost my camera by not grabbing it fast enough when I exited the cab. It was then 100% iPhone 😞. Nice memories, even some great composition but it was still an iPhone image. I applauded you for tolerating the weight I prefer smaller and lighter. I ham shopping for another camera while using a Sony RX100VII. I know the menu and how to manipulate the settings for my preferences. However I use a viewfinder ALL the time, and with compromised eyesight it’s a problem. With cataract surgeries this may greatly improve. I have used the Fujifilm XS10 with a prime and medium zoom and liked the camera….I will consider another but Sony, Cannon and Nikon all have smaller offerings too, including full frame options. I’ll rent my top choices and decide which is the best for me..ergonomics, camera/ glass resolution and the ease of use in the field.
I bought a Fujifilm X100V specifically for travel as I really don't like taking my main gear with me (Nikon D810, etc.). Used it last year in Europe and other trips and it works great! I couple that with my iPhone 13 Max and I am usually very well covered. I don't usually have a ton of issues with photos when I travel.
I carry my R6 with several lenses when I’m going somewhere that either the place, wildlife or people are subjects I’ll probably never see again but I’ve used my iPhone’s going back to an iPhone 5 for photos and none have failed to provide good to very good results. Not as good as a $3000 full frame body paired with a $1200 f1.2 lens but much more convenient. I just temper my expectations.
I have to put in a plug for smartphones. I took my LUMIX LXII to the (jaw dropping) Canadian Rockies and took wonderful photos. But photo after photo I had to expose for the sky, making everything else way underexposed, the only way not to blow out the sky. I knew I’d have to post process them all. Well, guess what. That was a year ago and I simply don’t have the hours it will take to go through the dozens of photos I took. The task feels daunting. In the meantime I noticed someone going through the photos she took on her iPhone 13 (don’t remember the exact model) and because of the computational HDR they were stunning. Additionally, they were a click away from sharing on social media (really the only thing I do with my photos). Do I love my LUMIX and Fuji cameras and lenses? Yeah. But I’m looking forward to upgrading my iPhone XR for the convenience, computational HDR, and instant internet sharing capabilities. Now I just need to figure out which model to get. 🤔
A few years ago you, Tony, did a video where you took the same photo with different cameras and a cell phone and then printed the photos in ascending sizes from 3x5 up to 11x17. I wonder how todays cell phone cameras would stack up to current DSLRs in the same type test? I do feel that if all you are doing with your photos in sharing on social media a cell phone photo is fine BUT when making even 8x12 prints cell phone photos are lacking.
I just came back yesterday from 2 weeks in London and Ireland. I had my camera and lenses but I didn't even got my lenses out of my suitcase. There where only 2 days without rain in the whole trip and on those days I was so afraid of rain that I didn't use the different lenses. I used my camera only on 2 days, the rest of the pictures where just the phone.
Why are Americans always obsessed with theft in Europe? Europe (including Italy) is very safe. Yes, if you're in a tourist trap there will be thieves - just like in the US. Just be aware and enjoy your holiday - don't overthink it. One questions: those friends that got robbed, was that in Italy or even Europe?
I’m not specifically concerned about Europe or Italy. There are certain areas where tourists/photographers are targeted in all countries. And yes, one of the people who got their gear stolen was in Italy.
The x100v does have a tilt screen, perhaps you were shooting in portrait? Also on iPhone under the settings app, go to camera, then preserve settings, and you can toggle on Apple ProRAW and it will no longer keep turning back off every time you close the camera app.
I travel with a low cost mirrorless DX camera and a cell phone. I use the cell phone for selfies or photos of my spouse in the shot, great for screens and the mirrorless camera for my creative photos to be edited and printed. The $1000 DX mirrorless cots the same as the cell phone so no more costly to have stolen. As a Nikon user the Z50 works for me for travel. Other brands also have $1000 mirrorless cameras.
Regarding shutter speed, there are 3rd party Camera apps that do more than the standard Apple camera app. Good call on the viewfinder, that is a BIG help for us with glasses. Fun closing: I love the phone camera more than my old Nikon D3100. 😊
One thing doesn’t make sense in this video. Others are saying computational photography applies to raw too and it captures even more dynamic range than normal mode. Can you comment on that please?
I sadly agree. I took only my iPhone 14 Pro Max on a vacation to southern Mexico. I was really disappointed in many ways. Part of our trip included a beautiful wedding, I shot in RAW. Big mistake with any action shots (like shooting the entrance of the wedding party). In RAW, the iPhone way to slow. And the results were not very satisfying. I had such high hopes for iPhone photography. I purchased multiple lens and other accessories. Haven't used any of them in months. Oh, and don't get me started on the zoom (or lack of decent zoom).
Why not bring small pocket cameras such as the canon g7x, rx100, ricoh gr or lumix lx100? It may not be as ideal as the larger cameras but way better than a phone camera
Hope you had a lovely trip to Venice! I'm currently in Palma, Mallorca and the iphone stay's in my pocket. However the Canon G7x ii is capturing some great shot's and is playful enough for me to think about what kind of shot i want. Maybe a relatively inexpensive, small, light weight portable camera is the answer for long days abroad and pixel peepers alike? 😆
With you 100%, I have the same pocketable Canon , not quite the Swiss Army knife my R5 is but hellish good for its price point and creams my phone every time and of course is actually has a built in flash that makes those phone ones look like toys. 😀
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I took my A7r4 to Italy this summer and didn't have any trouble. I think the key is not making yourself a target by bringing lots of gear. I traveled light, just bringing my 35mm lens and using my camera strap and no bag. I'm so glad I brought a real camera with a fast lens. It helped me capture things I would have otherwise missed.
Yes. I brought my Nikon Z7II with 24-120mm lens and had no problems in Italy.
I came close to being robbed in Florence back in 2019 and I think the one single gear that made me stand out was my tripod. I carry around a RRS TV-24 which is a great tripod but at the same time it's rather large and bulky and it does indeed stand out. I'm not sure why Italy has such a problem with this but it is a real issue and in the future my plan is to bring my Z bodies instead. Both my Z6 and Z7 are small enough to gather too much attention whereas my D810 and D850 with their respective lenses really really does stand out.
I have sony a7iv should I just bring the 24-70mm Kitless with me when I travel internationally?
@@michaellee3903 what do you mean can you described the situation. Like run and snatch or something violent?
Italy is more and more becoming like Haiti.
Most cities in Europe are safe and you will see a lot of ppl with expensive cameras ! Just take your camera and enjoy it at full potential , this is what was built for , it will be obsolete in 5-10 years anyway ! I had the same problem before going to Italty this summer and after a full week in Rome walking and taking the public transportation everywhere I can tell you " TAKE YOUR CAMERA" , put the camera bag in front of you in crowded places and you will be more than fine ! This is the main purpose of a CAMERA shooting, do not keep it locked in closet !
I agree (I'm from Germany). Europe is generally safe with a few risky spots. But good luck trying this strategy in Brazil.
I was robbed countless times over the past 10 years. I stopped taking any equipment on the streets (no watch, no fancy clothes either). My camera only comes out on day trips and in group settings etc.
@@Abakaschi never been to Brasil so i dont know but i take your word on that 👍
Physics won't ever be obsolete, and neither will large sensors and big glass.
@@bretthickman I agree with you on physics but …. I would not take on a trip my Sony A100 or 5d Mk 1 nowadays … they are collecting dust for at least 10 years in my “hall of fame” closet ! They still work but the card used in them, the focus system , the MP count … you get my point …there are just so much better alternatives to use right now !
On a recent trip I took an inexpensive Canon RP and an old EF 28-200. I generally shoot with a Canon R5, which I find too heavy and big to lug while traveling,and too expensive to risk. In the past my travel camera was an APSC, but the RP is lighter, smaller and it is full frame. Theft or damage of the RP is more tolerable compared to the R5. The RP with a single lens was also less of an annoyance for my travel companions. So far this seems a reasonable choice. The RP was bigger and heavier than my iPhone 14 Pro Max, but it got much better results. Thanks for a very practical discussion.
Ok, good. I’ve been waiting for someone to bring this up. I have a canon rp, bought it because of the compact full frame potential it has for street. And would constantly use it if it wasn’t for the…..very annoying loud shutter sound it makes ! Not conducive to candid street photography at all. Have you had this problem? I mean, I’ve contacted canon about this and there is almost nothing to do to make it silent. Except put it on automatic, thereby limiting its function. Or bracketing, which takes several photos. Not practical !
When I went to Italy and met up with my Italian friend, he didn't even want me opening the trunk of the rental car to search for something in my suitcase because of theft. I was shocked honestly at how stern and paranoid he was about me showing even a whiff that I was there on vacation. I had to use my phone which sucks because we went to Rome, Pompeii and others places in Sicily. I own the R5 so better to be safe and paranoid than sorry I suppose. When the locals say beware, you listen or go in a big group.
That is ridiculous. If you go to Eastern Europe like Poland, or Lithuania you have no such problems.
To many illegal immigrants in Italy.
@@TomasRamoska He never said anything about illegal immigrants. He said it was because of the mafia actually. Also, not trying to tell you how to live, but I really hope you are not stereotyping immigrants and throwing all the problems of a country on them. Maybe I am misunderstanding your intent with your comment.
I've been robbed before... in a nice neighborhood in Los Angeles. And it was out of my car, that I neglected to lock. Theft sucks, but this is why it pays to have insurance. ESPECIALLY if you're a professional. But even after that miserable experience, I would absolutely bring my R5 to Italy for vacation photos. Actually, it'd probably be WORSE if my phone was stolen while I was traveling...
@@ColinRobertson_LLAP Yeah I need to look into insurance for my camera for sure. I mainly use it at my job so I never think about that till I have to travel outside of my bubble. My friend was just so adamant about hiding my suitcase, and anything that could be seen as valuable. He actually gave me a look as if he was yelling "Are you insane?!" because I wanted to open my suitcase in public. He was the one that told me to just to use my cellphone to take pictures. At that point we were in Naples which he said is horrible when it comes to theft. He reminded me once again in Sicily. I just had no idea it was that bad.
Pickpockets are everywhere in Italy, and some of them are VERY good at their craft.
There's a format called Micro 4/3 which is extremely portable and unobtrusive if you choose carefully. I can cover almost anything with a tiny Laowa 7.5mm ultrawide, a Lumix 20/1.7 pancake lens, and a tiny Olympus 45/1.8 prime which I use on a tiny camera. If I want to shoot longer there are very small 35-100 and 45-150 zooms. The dilemma is reduced in size along with the equipment.
Tony said M43 was dead.
Olympus is basically dead in the water, the Olympus corporation sold off the camera division to japanese corporation JIP after a massive scandal uncovered decades of covered up losses. There will never be another camera made with the Olympus name, and along with it, Micro 4/3 will likely follow the same fate.
Which is a shame, because I started shooting with an Olympus e-520(?) from 2008 and it definitely has it's own style. My 300-600mm compact 4/3 lens is also now pretty much junk.
@@DestinyTerraria Yes! And yet, weirdly, my Olympus cameras continue to work perfectly! Isn't it uncanny?!
@@mike969696 Whether you find it canny that quality cameras continue to work as advertised, that's up to you. The point is that replacement OEM parts and new cameras and lenses will not be made. Are you willing to continue buying existing products from a company that is discontinuing support and exiting the market?
This is the best technical and philosophical discussion on this subject I have ever seen! Thank you.
Your experience is exactly why the OMDS OM-5 with 12-45mm F4 (24-80mm FF) is a seller for travel. Simply look past opinions that MFT is "dead": the IBM Mainframe has been "dying" for the past 30 years, and today in 2023 the IBM Mainframe is still strong. MFT is still here in 2023 with new products solving the issues outlined in your video at the size and weight one desires for travel.
It seems like for a lot of the issues mentioned a good compromise would be to use an apsc or a m43 set up. You wouldn't have all the benefits of full frame but the gear would be easier to carry and its less expensive if something does happen to it
Tony started the M43 is dead movement 4 years ago.
@@realmadera and I think a lot of the issues in this video shows why a lot of people still like them
You are so right with the GPS tagging. I found the best combo for me on vacation. I now have a Sony RX10 IV and my S22. I have a small leather sling bag with the camera water bottle and anything else I need with my phone in my pocket. I use a USB hub to copy the days photos to another SD card for backup using the S22. As an additional benefit I can use the hub with HDMI to look at photos or watch movies on the hotel TV. No laptop needed.
As someone who lives in London U.K. and regularly travels around Europe, I have had no issues at all. European cities mostly only have low-level crime (such as pickpockets) but if your sensible it’s not an issue.
This year I’ve travelled to Italy, Hungary and Czechia and have always felt safe and comfortable carrying a camera - I would never leave home without one! I love my iPhone, but it doesn’t hold a candle to my Canon R7! 🙂
I was in Venice in 2021 with my friend (I'm Italian), and I have to say pickpockets can be a real pain in the ass, but especially in bigger train and metro stations. Not too many people in that November period. I took with me my old Canon 450D camera, but not the whole package of lenses (too many things to carry). I have to say I took much more photos with my cameraphone eventually.
Especially I was wondering from an American perspective. If you have ever been in San Francisco downtown recently, almost every place in Western Europe seems to be a safe area. But of course Europe has many no-go areas as well.
I agree that you wouldn’t want to take loads of lenses just for the inconvenience of having to carry them around. I generally only take two - a wide angle 10-18mm for inside shots of cathedrals etc. and an 18-150mm for external shots (and of course I have my iPhone Pro-Max too!). You can get amazing shots on the iPhone, but where the camera excels are for those late evening sunset, twilight and nighttime landscapes/architecture shots (long exposure low light and I love a sun-star!). I do take a reference shot with the phone for GPS purposes, and I do wish cameras had GPS!
Safety wise I think Europe / USA / world are no different - there are rough places and safe places. I felt safe with a camera in NYC, and in Dubai. Just research the location. I’m going to Egypt in a few weeks, and South America next year so researching what’s/where’s safe or not!
There's safe and unsafe places everywhere, but Europe on average is definitely much safer compared to the US.
I took my camera gear to Brazil and ended up shooting all the beautiful scenery with my phone in fear that my gear would get stolen. Sucks to travel so far and be stuck with a phone for image capture so I understand your pain.
not a really good country to take like example. You're had just lucky
Perhaps this is where a good travel camera might be a good happy medium , plenty of the decent less expensive travel cameras have lenses that actually telescope and have most of the usual settings a proper serious camera has way better than a crappy smart phone.
I am really disappointed with this campaign against iphone by the Northrups!!! It has started with the iphone 15 launch, and they keep depreciating iphones’ cameras since then. They should focus on the equipment limitation and work around it with what is available and works.
I'm an American living in Europe since 1998, and I've done travel photography in many countries, both in cities and out in the wildlands. While in cities, I usually hide my Canon R6 in a Peak Design 6L sling, as the bag does not look like my Lowa or other camera bags, and it is not big enough to peg me as a tourist carrying potentially valuable stuff. Also, no selfie stick, no trucker cap, no Hawaiian shirt, no t-shirt with a huge logo on it, no backpack with a big water bottle, and no big fancy tripod with garishly anodized parts that scream "steal me!" The whole idea is to blend in with the locals rather than sticking out.
The PD 6L sling bag is large enough to carry the camera body with the RF 70-200 f/2.8L mounted, but that lens will attract more attention than I want in some cities, so I usually make do with the RF 24-105L or RF 100-400 (non-L). For additional security when shooting with my iPhone, I have it in a Peak Design Everyday Case with an Anchor Link that keeps my phone attached to one of their Cuff straps around my wrist.
I'll be taking those items to the heart of Mafia-land (Naples and Sorrento) in a few weeks and again to Porto soon after that. Hoping that it goes well, as it has on every other trip over the past several years.
PS: I did some bird photography last week in Stockholm with a borrowed, uninsured Canon R3 with their RF 1200 f/8 L lens. $25000 worth of perhaps the least discreet rig I have ever used while on a public walking path at a city park. About 10 of us were trying out ALL of the big whites and switching between all of their current mirrorless camera bodies. No need for security guards. We were honestly much more worried about dropping the big heavy equipment than we were about theft.
Honestly, this is why I have travel cameras, and they aren't expensive ones either. Just get something that is maybe 1 or 2 gens back from any brand really, for me it's the Fuji X-E3. Just use that to fill that space.
Exactly. This is where cropped sensor APSC or Micro 4/3s cameras shine. And a used camera is the way to go. I take my Fuji XT20 and the kit 18-55 level with me when I travel.
@@catlike1 always loved the XTs they probably make amazing travel kit! I used to use a M4/3 as my travel kit it’s actually my recording kit now, the stabilization in body is amazing on M4/3
I think you make some really good points and confirm my view that the smartphones are still way off the quality that a photographer can achieve with a camera. I do have to leap to the defence of Italy however. I have been there many times on vacation over the years and I have never even contemplated leaving my cameras at home. I have never been robbed either.
I can't believe you would not take your camera such a significant location, as a photographer I also see the world through my camera in a very different way than through my phone or my eyes. I live in Tenerife - Spain with relatively little crime and travel to Barcelona a few months ago where I was told things were drastically worse; but I never left my camera out of my hands always kept a close to my buddy and since I was taking pictures most of the time it wasn't uncomfortable at all, also out of common sense I avoided going to the worst neighborhoods in the city us advice by people all over I. I have some of the best memories not just from the photos with the little extra time I took this covering the details in the architecture just because I paused to focus and compose my photos. I believe photography made me enjoy my visit a lot more, and I only use my photos in restaurants where I cared more for the delicious Catalan food anything else. And when I got back home editing brought all this wonderful moments in Barcelona.
So glad I stumbled upon this video! I'm literally leaving for Italy in a week and was debating whether or not I should just use my phone for taking pictures or if I should take my Canon R6 Mark II (which I just bought), an EF 24-70 F2.8 II, and an RF 35mm 1.8. I was more worried about the size and weight and having to carry it all around while walking miles everyday.
I think it ultimately came to asking myself, "Do I want my pictures to look different and have a sense of depth/feel to it, or will I be satisfied with the all too conmon "smartphone" look?"
Grateful for T&C's insight and all of your comments! 🤓
Bring back the photo review show. I miss that era of Chelsea and Tony
I loe how practical and candidly you speak about camera tech, as a photographer! (And not as just another tech channel.) You speak so personally and openly about dilemmas and ideas, reasons for doing XYZ etc.. This is why I trust your opinions over others.
Whenever I travel with my wife I leave the big-rig camera at home because I already know she's not going to be happy with me fiddling with it and getting the perfect shot. Samsung S22 Ultra to the rescue. The zoom is great and its good enough for memories.
Thanks, both of you, for this video, and special thanks to Chelsea for your appreciation of the viewfinder. I feel that the lack of a viewfinder is a deal-breaker when I'm shopping for a new camera. I too like that feeling of blocking everything else out. I also like the added stability of being able to brace the camera against my body.
These experiences make the Sony APSC cameras so appealing. Take one of them with a sigma 18-50mm lens and you’re covered in most situations. So easy to carry it around and get photos that won’t disappoint you.
you mean a gx9 + pana-leica 12-60mm 2.8-4 right? fingers crossed a mark II follows the new g9 II release. would be the ultimate travel shooter w/ hybrid PDAF/CD.
I completely agree with your disdain of phone cameras. My most frequent and practical use for my phone camera is when I do the shopping and I need more info than just a list, so I shoot a label of anything in the pantry when I need that info. Thanks for the great video.
When I'm traveling, particularly out of country, I take my phone (Samsung S22 Ultra right now) and a Sony RX100-VA which are both pretty easily hidden or disguised to make them less tempting to thieves as well as being extremely easy to take with me. I'm very fond of the VA due to its size, the 24-70 lens (1.8-2.8f), and 1" sensor, tile screen and tiny popup viewfinder. Photos are quite good with both. Of the two, I strongly suggest the RX100 series with the accessory leather case that comes with a neck strap. Putting the strap around my neck makes it very easy to slide the camera under a jacket flap to hide it until I'm ready to take a photo. I would love to send you a couple of sample photos from each so you could see how well they both do their jobs. My other cameras are Sony apsc 6000 and 6500 with several different lenses both of which I've had for several years and also enjoy. Even though they both serve me well and are fairly small, they are still quite obvious to everyone around me.
I have the Sony RX100Vii 24mm-200mm zoom f2.8-4.5 and the leather case like you have. Yours is certainly better in low light than mine but I love the reach the Vii has and using Clear Image Zoom (only in JPEG), I can reach a 400mm equivalent for both photos and videos while still maintaining good image quality. I've considered selling it many times but it's just great to have a feature-rich, pocketable camera that I can take with me anywhere.
@dalejones146 I picked the VA for the low light as a used camera. It has clear image zoom also, so gets to abour a 135mm equiv. We visit a lot of interiors ( cathedrals, etc.,) so the lens works out well. I've also considered getting the longer lens model just for the extra flexibility you mentioned. I must say, though, that this RX100 series is an excellent travel and under the radar camera. I'm happy with it.
I should note: in pixel 7 pro: the computational photography and "raw" gets baked into the raw file....no matter what mode you choose: even portrait mode.
I have to agree with most of our comments. I'm a retired commercial photographer after 35 years running my own studio. I have the same feeling Chelsea mentioned about not feeling as connected if my eye is not up to the viewfinder. Even when I shot with my Sinar 8 x 10 my eyes were only a few inches from the focus screen with a dark cloth over my head. I also need glasses for close up vision and have my Canon diopters adjusted for that. Also related to the tilt screen for those high or really low angle shots. I also find I can make spilt second adjustments while my eye is to my Canon viewfinders whereas I find it much slower with my phone to go into the settings to make adjustments. Usually with the phone I miss a quick shot due to this.
I'm headed to Provence for a 2 week break and while I will have my LG phone and might use it I will mainly use my 2 Canon M5 bodies and 3 or 4 lenses I will carry in a small shoulder bag.
Thanks so much for bringing up the topic. But I think x100v does have a tilt screen and the focal length is 35 not 24
I've been using my Pixel 6 to take raw images and editing them in post, and have actually been pleasantly surprised. They merge a lot of the stacked image data into the raw, so you have great dynamic range there. I'm curious if iphone does the same thing. Hell, I'd love to see a phone raw file comparison video to see which phone's raw files edit best in post.
Remember T&C have daily access to the very best cameras available. So their reference point may be relative to that.
There are a number of test on UA-cam showing that iPhone 14 in raw is indistinguishable from good DSLRs in many situations. The pixel 6 is probably at least equal.
Two of their biggest complaints were lack of telephoto reach and aperture control.
I had similar experience but all I had is a Samsung S22 ultra, as a professional photographer myself, I was amazed by the fact that I don't need my camera anymore for a lot of personal situations because the 4 different cameras on the S22 ultra and its rendering is incredible. I was iphone user for like 5 years, and it cost me half the price of an iphone 14 pro max, with 12gb ram and 256 gb.
They don't compare to real cameras, imo. And the fact that so much of it is fake and not physics leaves a bad taste in my mouth.
I am not a fan of the iPhone rendering also. Prefer a puncher Samsung S23 Ultra. The iPhone is too flat for my taste
As for me (as opposed to wifey, in previous post), I've come to make this compromise: either take a Tamron 17-28 and 28-200 - or - some combo of Samyang 18mm, Samyang 24mm, Samyang 45mm, and Samyang 75mm. Next major trip I may take just the 18mm and the Tammy 28-200 - I zoom more than I care to admit.
I tried the ZV-1 that I got for my grandaughter and wow. Almost swayed me but I didn't pushed it hard. May have to find an RX VII and see how much I can push in LR/Topaz. Then again, this is getting into computaional looking pix. Physics sux.
Because a big full frame camera isn’t ideal, as a Smartphone isn’t good enough, I take a RX100VII with me. I also have the the GX5 MKII with it’s 24-120mm F1.8-2.8 and these both little cameras getting the job done in most situations.
Especially the RX has such a nice, sharp lens. The 1“ is good enough and combined with LRs AI denoise, these little cameras are just perfect.
I don’t have any fear to get a theft victim, as no one cares for these little cameras.
So next time, maybe you should give them a try.
RX100 is the GOAT. I even use it for sports when I’m too lazy to bring the full frame.
I would bet IPhone 14 pro in raw outperforms RX100 in most situations.
Why not take the real camera and use insurance/ be careful?
@@henriklantzhedstrom6709 The iPhone has backed in denoise with hard sharpenig etc. the files from the RX are mostly real, with some lens correction.
@@E6MND Of course, you can do it if you want to. I personally don't want to carry heavy gear , when I'm on vacations. Thats why I have gone for the 1" cameras for my private stuff. The RX100VII is very comparable with mFT in terms of max quality, as mFT has no ISO100.
Pretty sure the IPhone raw is still a stacked multi image file
It is. And you don’t have to select it every time. Theres a setting to remember the format. The premise of this entire video is incorrect.
@@ChrisClayton Maybe the 48MP HEIF that can now be used(which I assume are stacked multi image too) would have helped some of their complaints
I used to be a phone nerd, I thought I like using phone, but turn out, I only like using the camera of the phone because that's all I have. Last year I bought a Canon 550D, and since then, I barely use the phone ( and it's camera )
If you guys had to choose a phone camera which would it be? Sony Xperia 1 V, Xerpia Pro, S23 Ultra, Pixel 8 Pro or ip15 Pro/Max?
The phone is convenient for snapshots or informal video for a channel. I do love cameras but as I age, past injuries make my camera painful to carry these days. I agree, the camera is superior, but I agree that the phone has its place.
When I had to use my phone in RAW for a few weeks after my camera died from a fall into a lake, I realized moreso how limited phone cameras are.
My main issue with phones is still that they don't have a shutter speed limit like the real cameras have, to always use the right shutter speed for action. As for GPS I sometimes track my walk with the watch and later sync positions in Lightroom.
I think a relatively cheap, used cropped sensor camera is good for travel when you’re a bit worried about theft. They are also quite compact and light.
Under perfect conditions, my iPhone13 takes stunning photos. It's "good enough" for the majority of smartphone users. That being said, my "old" Canon 5DM3 humiliates what my iPhone does. It's nowhere near the league of my Canon R5. I commend the great marketing of smartphone companies which imply that their camera systems are on the same level as a proper full-frame camera.
I think a big problem for people in living in north america is that you have such a small selection of phones available, as you completely miss the chinese phones. The only real alternatives you have to the iPhone are the Samsung phones and Sony. But as Samsung photos look way to artificial and the sensors are to small as well they are not really an option and the Sony is great because they give you way more control than the other phones, but hardware and software are also lacking behind. I mean obviously if you bring your professionell camera with different lenses and a tripod, no phone will be able to be as good, but I use a Vivo X90 Pro+ which is in general also not available here in Europe but it's pretty easy to get it. And the hardware is so much superior to the iPhone hardware, the lenses and the coating are also so much better. The Zeiss T* coating really helps, there is nearly no lens flair, compared to an iPhone it's day and night in that regard. But also the 1 inch main sensor helps a lot in situations with difficult lighting. Also the other sensors are bigger than on an iPhone or Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra and with 4 lenses with no big gaps between you get more variety than on an iPhone without the need to crop in that often. The bigger sensors give you a way better more natural bokeh which makes the seperation of a subject from the background way nicer. Also because off the partnership with Zeiss they have the expertise on how a photo should look like to be as close to an DSLR photo as possible. In this regard the bigger sensors also help as they don't need to that much computational photography. I really think the photos of that phone are way closer to a DSLR than of any other phone and especially compared to an iPhone. Also you get way more control than on an iPhone and the camera app saves the mode you were in last time you had the camera app open, so if you want to shoot RAW more or less all the time it will always be in that mode when you open the camera app and apply the last used settings. The color accurracy in Zeiss natural color mode is also outstanding and you have 2 others options for different look of the photos which are not a simple filter on top but really change the way the camera algorithm works. Also phones like a Xiaomi 13 Ultra are very impressive and on nearly on par with the Vivo X90 Pro+. I think you as professional photographers would have way more fun with these two phones and wouldn't have regretted not having a big camera with you as nearly as much as with the iPhone
Chelsea, I am shocked you dont carry a Sony RX100 VII in your purse to avoid ALL the reasons you guys poo-pooed on the smartphone. I have felt the same way about the shortcomings of smartphone cameras since 2017. I only use my smartphone camera for simple 'necessity' shots but almost never for photos I care to appreciate later.
Yes! I use an RX10 IV for my all-purpose photography. It is a lot bigger and would make me standout more but I can appreciate the IQ you get from these Sony 1” sensor cameras with Zeiss lenses. Although there may be benefits, you don’t really need a larger sensor for most circumstances.
This. I own a Panasonic zs200 for travel..
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The RX10 is a much larger camera than the RX100 though and they use the same sensor.@@leemarkowitz4709
I can fully understand the struggle for shooting photos with a phone, when you are used to a camera. I just went to Sweden and took wonderful pictures with my D780 and when I went to Stockholm I only had my IPhone 12 and I actually got a picture that really comes close to a perfect picture. But it only works with a phone when it’s already an overcast sky and not too much direct sunlight
You don't have to "reselect RAW every time" you use iphone - the setting sticks. Nobody's shooting live photos for anything serious, iPhone RAW edits pretty well in Lightroom, so yeah, just shoot raw and you'll be fine (so long as you remember is a tiny garbage sensor which pulls off decent shots due to multiple exposure stacking)
I have used smartphones, in an addition to pro gear, for several jobs, and nobody ever noticed, not even the designers who in fact often preferred the smartphone files. Of course, there are things smartphones can't do well (sport, wildlife) and their ergonomics is terrible, you are 100% correct about that, which is why when I travel, I pack a RX100VII (I took some of my best pictures with that camera) but there is NO WAY I would lug a DSLR + lenses!
We need to train clients to stop preferring the smartphone images.
Why did they prefer the smartphone images?
@@definingslawek4731 They thought they were more interesting images, they didn't know I took them with a smartphone
Quick travel tip to Europe. Never use your phone openly in the big cities like London. It will get stolen by a guy on a bike.😢 when checking google maps just turn around and face a building. A camera is a lot less likely to get stolen, especially if you have a neck strap.
Tony&Chelsea thank you so much for this video, I am an old school photographer and it is important for me to experience the tactile sensations of the lens rings, the viewfinder and the shutter release, it is important for me to use a real camera and not the software contained in the iPhone, for me the camera in the iPhone is just a way to capture what needs to be written down on paper and nothing more, but when I want to be creative in photography, I take the camera and enjoy the pleasure of creating a photo and the iPhone pictures it really has nothing to do with that.
You guys really should try that phone that has the 1" sensor and variable aperture. I think it's a Huawei phone, not positive. But I'd be interested in your thoughts on it in raw and otherwise. It goes from f1.4? To f4 (relative ofc) with 10 STOPS BETWEEN THEM ALL! I'd LOVE to see that video!!! I think it's the Mate 50 Pro but don't quote me!
The X100V does have a tilt screen, it just tucks in so nicely to the body that you forget it tilts.
I recommend using the extension lenses with the x100v. They both are easy to carry around. They turn my x100f from a street photography camera in to a travel camera.
Like you've said many times before, it's time cameras get the same security features as smartphones. PIN, fingerprint and facial recognition to unlock the camera and the ability to brick the camera if it's stolen.
😂😂😂
And work worse after updates.
@Teluric2 you could always disable security settings if you don't want the inconvenience of fingerprint unlock
I took my Canon 5Dmk4 to Paris and It got very heavy to carry so I picked whether to take it depending on where we were going that day. I did use my cell phone quite a lot, especially on a very wet day when we went to the Louvre. No way anyone is getting a great picture with all the crowds! I have since bought an R7 specifically to be my travel camera. It takes great pictures and is much lighter. I hope it will be a good compromise. One reason to use a cell phone is if you want to be in the picture; everyone knows how to take a picture with a cell phone but you can't hand a DSLR to a waiter and ask them to take a picture.
It's funny...I just got back from Italy too, we could have run into each other in Florence or Venice! I wanted to pack light, so I just took a GX9 + 12-60 & 20mm f/1.7. All fit in a cross-body pack that I had slung around the front, so I wasn't too worried about theft. I used my iPhone 14 Pro Max for dinner pics and ultra-wide (in RAW). This combination worked as good as I could have hoped and I didn't feel too encumbered on the go.
Yes, The iPhone is not meant to be "the prime" camera, it is great backup and for video it is just great, for most cases.. And for social media use and most of other use cases it is enough good. It just works better than some other phones. No one is doing pixel peeping in social media to be honest and no one is not carrying real camera all the time but iPhone sticks there all the time and you can have great results with it, if you just focus on what you are doing.
Better? P60 ranks better than iphone in dxomar site.
Can you explain the tech procedure to make you think iphone has better camera?
At 13:40. Is chelsea saying the fuji x100v screen doesnt have a tilt screen? Which is not true. Not sure how an owner of that camera would say that. Did they even vacation in Italy?
If I am going somewhere where I have been before I'll take my film camera (to get any new photos) and have my phone as a backup, if I am going somewhere new, I'll set times to go shooting with the digital camera and be extra careful during those times and use the film/phone during the day for any random photos that might crop up. At the end of the day a modern phone camera is still better than the early digital cameras
I thought that’s what proraw was for. You shoot raw but also get the computational editing applied. Also, there is a setting for the camera app to remember what you previously used. So if you shot raw, it will still be set to raw the next time you use the app.
What he said. I’m afraid this is wrong in the podcast. Sorry.
I think the fear of theft and pickpocketing is mythical and over stated, I am extremely absent minded and inclined to leave stuff behind all the time, I left my wallet on counter in Thailand, phone in Italy in tourist hot spots and have exclusively had them returned to me or retained by locals, I live in the UK and often have the same experience often, at home, I think some of this is driven by dishonest tourists jutifying habitual insurance scams more than actual thieves and opportunists, I have also had heard credible anecdotal evidence of backpacker, cheapskate tourists being way worse than locals who have an interest in the reputation of an attraction/resort for thier economics
Glad I found you guys. Now I kno to only use the 3 camera focal lengths and to not zoom into anything; to just move closer or further. Also to save my money and put the settings back to 12mp instead of the default 24mp they set so that I'll have to buy more icloud space. Thievery 🙄.
The x100v screen *does* flip out - unlike a phone camera?
It's nice to know that professionals still make mistakes. On my trip to Italy I did take my DSLR, however, on our first day in ROME, I chose not to bring it... That was a dumb idea as I tried my very best to get a good shot of the Trevi Fountain with my iPhone. Needless to say, those were the worst pictures from our trip, but like Chelsea was saying, fine for the share, but disappointingly so. I hope to go back someday, but I'd probably opt out of taking the R5 and take the easier to travel with R50 and leave those white whales at home... unless I'm going to be making some extra quid on the photos that is! Thank you guys for keeping it real.
What about the the HEIF RAW file format exported from the iPhone 14 and 15 pro? Does that preserve all the computational information from the smaller size? I know the DNG Raw file is like you said, garbage at times, but would the HEIF RAW at 48MB be that middle ground where it retains the Apple computations? Or that middle ground of 48MB vs the 12MB found in the smaller formats?
Are you joking?
I just got back from 6 days in Italy, brought my FujiX100f on a wrist strap and never once felt unsafe. And we walked 10 miles, 20K steps a day, I always had the camera in my hand unless it was in my small bag.
For another perspective on utilizing mobile phones for travel photography check out the work of Jefferson Graham, Rick Sammon and Scott Kelby.
What the heck is Chelsea talking about?
The Fujifilm X100V absolutely 100% has a *tilt screen!*
Does she not actually know that? Wow
Plus, you can do that old-time trick of tilting the screen and holding it over your head upside-down to operate the shutter release with your thumb.
Other reviewers are really praising the 48 megapixels raw, saying the resolution capture is truly 48 megapixels. Gerald Undone also tested the LOG recording to have 14 stops of dynamic range (better than FX3!) - any comment on that?
I recently took my g9, 2 lens (14-140) & 35mm f1.4 in a sling bag to Portugal. Worked great, and I was able to get photos faster then the guys using phones. culling & editing the 4000 raw photos took a while though.
Couldn't agree more with you. I have the full pro set up with the R5. On a Baltic cruise I used the G9 with three lenses - light, portable and produced great results.
I still don’t understand why they don’t put Bluetooth trackers in cameras.
Right!?
Yeah, one of the major brands should colab with Apple to embed an airtag technology into the camera.
Really? lol it’s simple, lack of incentives. What happens if your camera gets stolen? You buy a new one! 💰 💰
Implementing new hardware/software features COST money 💸💸
Hence no incentive.
So we will have to buy more
Or at very least a lock so if someone steals it they can’t use it, like they do with phones
As someone who has just ordered an iPhone 15 Pro (not Max) to improve the phone's photographic capabilities - but also as the owner of a Nikon D750, Fuji X-Pro3 and a Leica Q - this was the right discussion! I'm not really afraid of thieves, but once I was at a flea market in Bosnia with my Nikon and realised that if someone took it from me, they could live off it for a year.
Next time consider taking a Pany Fz 2500, 24~480mm built in zoom, f/ 2.8~4.5. It has a hand held night setting where it combines 4 or 5 shots of different ISO & shutter speeds in order to gather enough light. If it gets stolen its not like loosing an expensive camera & lenses. Adorama might have a used one for a good price.
100% agree, but would be great it you showed more examples. not too difficult to come up with
Maybe take a cheap "digital vintage" cam (Canon 5D, ...) on such trips then and just shrug it off should it get stolen...
We went to Venice this weekend and I brought an R8 and an R5 with 24-70mm F2.8, 70-200mm F2.8, a 50mm F1.2 and a 24-105mm F4. I carried either the small kit (R8 + 24-105mm) or the large kit with the R5, 24-70, 70-200 and 50 in a small backpack. It was worth breaking my back seeing the pictures that came out of the iPhone 14Pro Max compared to even the R8. The pictures even taken in the same place and at the same angles tell completely different stories just because of the way they are processed. I am never leaving house without at least a Canon M6 Mark II on me. I am now investing into more sling style bags so that I can always carry a camera with me.
Italy is definitely the place you want to bring a real camera 😅
Think Tank Rotation 22 pack with camera in the belt compartment and both the waist belt and chest strap buckled. Your gear is safe. The belt pack can be rotated forward for immediate accessibility while walking. What's in mine? A Sony a7Rv (or my Riv) w/ either the Tamron 28-200 or the Sony 4/70-200 Macro. If it's the 70-200, then on a neck strap I'll have either my Fuji x100v or my other 61mp Sony w/ the 4/16-35 PZ G.
Real variable aperture is there on Huawei P60 pro, Mate 50 and 60 Pro, goes from f4-f1.4, it's like 5 stops if I'm correct and it's very impressive, it's a shame you're in the US and you can only judge smartphone photography by iPhone, pixel or Samsung, which I believe they're not the best smartphones for photography.
FWIW before my last 3 trips to Italy, I put several strips of blue painter's tape on my camera and lenses, to give the impression that they were beaten up and old. I also obscured the branding. Over time, the tape builds up dirt and grime, which provides some protection to the gear and further adds to the impression that it's old, grimy, etc. (N.B. painter's tape comes off easily and won't leave a residue, even after a handful of years)
I also avoided taking my camera out when other people were nearby. Of course, this isn't always possible, and would not prevent a thief from seeing my camera from a distance and coming over to try and steal my camera bag (a black, nondescript courie-style bag slug across the body). But some precautions are better than no precautions.
There were also some itineraries where I wouldn't bring my camera, e.g. going out at night, going out for food, going to certain places, etc.
Of course, much depends on luck too. There's no telling how much benefit my precautions provided. But in the states, I've had more than a few people give my camera sour looks, comment on its (apparent) poor condition, or ask if I was due for a new camera, etc. So at least some people were fooled. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Here's where smartphones have an advantage over traditional ILCs which is the ability to automatically store images into a central cloud computing server. This takes away the hassle of loading your RAM images into a photo editing library and going thru the process of actually doing image processing. That being said, these are features most photographers will accept as part of taking photos with an actual high end camera. Smartphones will always be limited by the small of their sensors. No amount of image processing software can change that one single aspect of the camera in an IPhone.
Why choose between the minimal (phone) and the best ( camera , tripod, lenses, filters) when there is still the possibility to carry a good point and shoot compact camera with you which is not too heavy to carry around and still gives you the opportunity to control the camera settings and flipscreens. Canon and Sony have got some interesting models.
I recently came back from a Vegas vacation and was a little disappointed by my phone photos but I just didn't want the hassle and anxiety of being responsible for taking my full frame mirrorless camera. It hangs around your neck like a noose, so easy to become distracted forget it, have it stolen or drop damage it. Instead of documenting my vacation spent enjoying it.
I am glad people are waking up to the disadvantages of smartphone photography. The only advantage is that you always have your phone with you. That’s it. I hope you enjoyed your vacation and thanks for sharing your thoughts.
That’s it mate , smartphones are good for happy snaps and the unexpected shots because they are the camera you have with you , but there is no substitute for a real camera.
13:44 it’s probably been mentioned but the x100v has a tilt screen 🤷♂️
As an enthusiast I like to travel with a real camera. Unfortunately my last trip I lost my camera by not grabbing it fast enough when I exited the cab. It was then 100% iPhone 😞. Nice memories, even some great composition but it was still an iPhone image. I applauded you for tolerating the weight I prefer smaller and lighter. I ham shopping for another camera while using a Sony RX100VII. I know the menu and how to manipulate the settings for my preferences. However I use a viewfinder ALL the time, and with compromised eyesight it’s a problem. With cataract surgeries this may greatly improve. I have used the Fujifilm XS10 with a prime and medium zoom and liked the camera….I will consider another but Sony, Cannon and Nikon all have smaller offerings too, including full frame options. I’ll rent my top choices and decide which is the best for me..ergonomics, camera/ glass resolution and the ease of use in the field.
I bought a Fujifilm X100V specifically for travel as I really don't like taking my main gear with me (Nikon D810, etc.). Used it last year in Europe and other trips and it works great! I couple that with my iPhone 13 Max and I am usually very well covered. I don't usually have a ton of issues with photos when I travel.
I carry my R6 with several lenses when I’m going somewhere that either the place, wildlife or people are subjects I’ll probably never see again but I’ve used my iPhone’s going back to an iPhone 5 for photos and none have failed to provide good to very good results. Not as good as a $3000 full frame body paired with a $1200 f1.2 lens but much more convenient. I just temper my expectations.
How come you didn’t use the 100v?
I have to put in a plug for smartphones.
I took my LUMIX LXII to the (jaw dropping) Canadian Rockies and took wonderful photos. But photo after photo I had to expose for the sky, making everything else way underexposed, the only way not to blow out the sky. I knew I’d have to post process them all.
Well, guess what. That was a year ago and I simply don’t have the hours it will take to go through the dozens of photos I took. The task feels daunting.
In the meantime I noticed someone going through the photos she took on her iPhone 13 (don’t remember the exact model) and because of the computational HDR they were stunning. Additionally, they were a click away from sharing on social media (really the only thing I do with my photos).
Do I love my LUMIX and Fuji cameras and lenses? Yeah. But I’m looking forward to upgrading my iPhone XR for the convenience, computational HDR, and instant internet sharing capabilities. Now I just need to figure out which model to get. 🤔
A few years ago you, Tony, did a video where you took the same photo with different cameras and a cell phone and then printed the photos in ascending sizes from 3x5 up to 11x17. I wonder how todays cell phone cameras would stack up to current DSLRs in the same type test? I do feel that if all you are doing with your photos in sharing on social media a cell phone photo is fine BUT when making even 8x12 prints cell phone photos are lacking.
I just came back yesterday from 2 weeks in London and Ireland. I had my camera and lenses but I didn't even got my lenses out of my suitcase. There where only 2 days without rain in the whole trip and on those days I was so afraid of rain that I didn't use the different lenses. I used my camera only on 2 days, the rest of the pictures where just the phone.
The iPhone 15 pro has a programmable button now. You can hold it down to open the camera and press it again as a shutter button.
Why are Americans always obsessed with theft in Europe? Europe (including Italy) is very safe. Yes, if you're in a tourist trap there will be thieves - just like in the US. Just be aware and enjoy your holiday - don't overthink it.
One questions: those friends that got robbed, was that in Italy or even Europe?
I’m not specifically concerned about Europe or Italy. There are certain areas where tourists/photographers are targeted in all countries.
And yes, one of the people who got their gear stolen was in Italy.
@@chelseanorthrup8787 Agree, those places are everywhere unfortunately :(
I’ve been violently robbed in Europe by non-Europeans. Not fun.
@@ryandetert450 i can imagine..,
The x100v does have a tilt screen, perhaps you were shooting in portrait? Also on iPhone under the settings app, go to camera, then preserve settings, and you can toggle on Apple ProRAW and it will no longer keep turning back off every time you close the camera app.
I travel with a low cost mirrorless DX camera and a cell phone. I use the cell phone for selfies or photos of my spouse in the shot, great for screens and the mirrorless camera for my creative photos to be edited and printed. The $1000 DX mirrorless cots the same as the cell phone so no more costly to have stolen. As a Nikon user the Z50 works for me for travel. Other brands also have $1000 mirrorless cameras.
Regarding shutter speed, there are 3rd party Camera apps that do more than the standard Apple camera app. Good call on the viewfinder, that is a BIG help for us with glasses. Fun closing: I love the phone camera more than my old Nikon D3100. 😊
One thing doesn’t make sense in this video. Others are saying computational photography applies to raw too and it captures even more dynamic range than normal mode. Can you comment on that please?
I sadly agree. I took only my iPhone 14 Pro Max on a vacation to southern Mexico. I was really disappointed in many ways. Part of our trip included a beautiful wedding, I shot in RAW. Big mistake with any action shots (like shooting the entrance of the wedding party). In RAW, the iPhone way to slow. And the results were not very satisfying. I had such high hopes for iPhone photography. I purchased multiple lens and other accessories. Haven't used any of them in months.
Oh, and don't get me started on the zoom (or lack of decent zoom).
Why not bring a 135 with a 50mm lens and a stock of Triax? I can only recommend the feeling/exitement.
Why not bring small pocket cameras such as the canon g7x, rx100, ricoh gr or lumix lx100? It may not be as ideal as the larger cameras but way better than a phone camera
Hope you had a lovely trip to Venice! I'm currently in Palma, Mallorca and the iphone stay's in my pocket. However the Canon G7x ii is capturing some great shot's and is playful enough for me to think about what kind of shot i want. Maybe a relatively inexpensive, small, light weight portable camera is the answer for long days abroad and pixel peepers alike? 😆
With you 100%, I have the same pocketable Canon , not quite the Swiss Army knife my R5 is but hellish good for its price point and creams my phone every time and of course is actually has a built in flash that makes those phone ones look like toys. 😀