The Pity of Partition : Jaipur Literature Festival

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  • Опубліковано 27 січ 2016
  • Ayesha Jalal in conversation with William Dalrymple
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 108

  • @benukakati9915
    @benukakati9915 2 роки тому +3

    She is so brilliantly expressive.Not seen her likes a lot!

  • @rebeccamiddleton3715
    @rebeccamiddleton3715 4 роки тому +2

    Thank you very much for posting this.

  • @mohammadmoniruzzamanmiah9647
    @mohammadmoniruzzamanmiah9647 3 роки тому +15

    Truth is ugly and telling it is uglier, because it cuts through the flesh. Sadaat Hasan Manto became an outsider and an outcast after he settled in the newly created Islamic State of Pakistan preceded by the partition of British India in 1947. Most of the ugly truth he spoke through his writings was not digestible by his compatriots in West Pakistan. However, his gospels are no more unheard and unappreciated. We, as Bangladeshis, revere him as a writer and a thinker. We understand his perspectives and that is why, he will always be celebrated for his truths which most Pakistanis still find unsettling. Telling the inconvenient truth is nobler than keeping the mouth shut in the face of the fear of rejection and criticism. Manto is a champion of truth and partition of India is the greatest tragedy for all of us in the subcontinent. I regret we lost such a versatile genius too early. Our whole political history is really a matter of pity. We cannot undo history. But we can at least try to heal the wounds of it.

    • @whocares3132
      @whocares3132 2 роки тому

      NO healing . We will make sure the cut stays deeper. Jihadi is awalys a jihadi and Bullet is the solution. Thank you stay in Pak... From Himachal India. Do no dare to come here specially in Himachal.

    • @tahabutt8088
      @tahabutt8088 Рік тому

      This some of the most dumb things I’ve ever heard, he literally most celebrated in Pakistan and Pakistan was secular until 1973 and their was no truth that was not digestible or unsettling for Pakistanis on what he said. And there literally no Bangladeshi that celebrates him or even knows him barely

  • @firna1864
    @firna1864 3 місяці тому

    Why is Ayesha Jalal talking about Manto, did
    She came to festival to talk about him?

  • @munirdin9533
    @munirdin9533 2 роки тому +1

    BRILLIANT LADY. VERY IMPRESSIVE. MANTO WAS AND IS A HERO.

  • @PonderQuest123
    @PonderQuest123 2 роки тому

    Second question from that Girl was very nice and well answered too

  • @aatmaDipoBhava
    @aatmaDipoBhava Рік тому +2

    Anglo Mohammedan Alliance
    A white British agent interviewing Dolores Umbridge whose minister of magic was Jinnah. Pity

  • @salam36198
    @salam36198 2 роки тому +14

    She is a liar. Choosing some part and leaving others. A distorted history

    • @rafthejaf8789
      @rafthejaf8789 2 роки тому +2

      Calling someone a liar is quite extreme. Surely all historians chose what to focus on? Instead of being glib support your statement with examples.

    • @Bumble-Be
      @Bumble-Be 2 роки тому +2

      Yes she's a blatant liar.
      In her version of history of partition, while talking about Jinnah, She does not present the truth rather concealing the demonic and selfish nature of Jinnah. Jinnah was after his own personal gains and not for Muslims of the subcontinent. He didn't gave a shit about the millions of Muslims who'll be left in Hindu majority India, and went with his agenda for personal gratification. He was a failed statesman and poor administrator with no vision.
      U should see the video of Dr. Ishtiyaq Ahmed who has debunked the fishy and factless theory of Ayesha Jalal.

    • @prc6075
      @prc6075 Рік тому

      YES. Ayesha Jalal and Ayesha Siddique both.

    • @iracture
      @iracture 2 місяці тому

      Its called selective memory. On one hand you call Direction Action day and then write short stories about terrible life. Naturally once you call direct action day you need to be prepared for consequences. Till date Pakistan has not apologized for Direct action day. Without an apology, artists can't be allowed to work in Mumbai entertainment industry no matter how brilliant their art. They need to own up their people who preach hate. Uproot those people from civic society and then talk art.

  • @girish692
    @girish692 Рік тому

    Partition is a bitter memory. Now we have to live with it. But next partition is impossible.

  • @kmajinad
    @kmajinad 7 років тому +24

    India is now in the top 10s. Without removing Pakistan, India couldn't achieve this record. Because Muslim majority states will have to share the fate of kashmir.
    She is a Pakistani, she defends her country. Muslim League give people Islamic Pakistan, Congress gave a secular india. We should never forget history.

    • @Himanshu-hq8og
      @Himanshu-hq8og 6 років тому +7

      Arastushukooh its to stop islamization of this country, don't speak if you don't know shit Congress turned from secular to muslim appeasers just for vote bank politics

    • @PoonamAswal458
      @PoonamAswal458 4 роки тому

      @Aslan Pak Sar Zameen lol

    • @PoonamAswal458
      @PoonamAswal458 4 роки тому +1

      @Aslan Pak Sar Zameen jokers , muslims don't have caste system ? Just because rapes are not reported that doesn't mean there is no rape in ur beloved country ...This thing even can't claim by most developed countries that there is no rapes in their country.. Muslims only brag about shortcomings of others religions except their own ...u see no free speech ...😒 Right wing is everywhere now because of muslims ...look at Europe

    • @PoonamAswal458
      @PoonamAswal458 4 роки тому +4

      @Atique Mirza look who is talking ... secularism 🤔😒

    • @Ali-mi1hn
      @Ali-mi1hn 3 роки тому

      @@PoonamAswal458 ,Islam doesn't have a caste system.Please educate yourself.

  • @dineshshetty875
    @dineshshetty875 Рік тому +5

    We 🇮🇳 thank Jinha for creating Pakistan and successfully Seggrigating the Jihadis..
    Had he not created Pakistan, the condition of Bharat would have been just like current situation of Pakistan...
    Also he helped us in dividing the strength of muslims effectively and so by doing it we 🇮🇳 indians got saved....
    After a certain percentage of muslim population in a non islamic state would always turns out to a a disaster for the nation....
    Thanks Jinha....

  • @chaitanyasenapathi5629
    @chaitanyasenapathi5629 4 роки тому +1

    My past Landlord is 95 years old and she told me that there were not a lot riots taking place in Mumbai !

  • @rabindranarayanchaudhury7313
    @rabindranarayanchaudhury7313 3 роки тому +5

    Partition of Indian subcontinent
    was unpardonable sin committed by the political personalities .
    The prophecy of Netaji Subhash Chandra Bose ( who vehemently opposed the partition of India),has become true.
    He warned the then leadership of India, that it would leave the
    whole sub continent into complete ruination.
    Politically, Socially, Economically and Culturally.
    If we could live Unitedly , this
    part of the world would have been a source of inspiration for the rest of the countries.
    Jai Hind.

    • @MSSSALMAN
      @MSSSALMAN 2 роки тому +1

      the only sane comment i got to read here on this video.

    • @utep3
      @utep3 2 роки тому

      Ironically her husband Sugata Bose is a grand nephew of Subhash Chandra Bose!

    • @Nuamsi
      @Nuamsi Рік тому

      Also Subhash Chandra Bose was a Ardent follower of Fascism and Nazism Philosophy. So I can Imagine with out Partition, Muslims world have to Suffer the same faith as Jews in Italy, Germany, Poland, Sweden, Austria and France.

    • @xeniarizvi3219
      @xeniarizvi3219 Рік тому

      You want 250 million more terrorists? You are an absolute nut case. Nusrat Rizvi, Palm Beach Gardens FL, US

    • @akshay_wakodikar
      @akshay_wakodikar Рік тому +2

      @@Nuamsi are you out of mind? he was not a follower of nazi thought. he was just using nazi germany against britain.

  • @utep3
    @utep3 2 роки тому

    Vitriol against her is astounding! Yet her husband Sugata Bose is the grand nephew of Subhash Chandra Bose (grandson of Sarat Chandra Bose).

  • @matinoutho9058
    @matinoutho9058 Рік тому +4

    The last chance to preserve the unity of india was the Muslim leagues cabinet mission plan which asked for autonomy for Muslim majority provinces but was outrightly rejected by congress leaders. Even the partition of Bengal and the Punjab was a congress demand. It follows therefore that congress leaders were not overly interested in preserving the unity of India.

    • @souvikkhankari5200
      @souvikkhankari5200 Рік тому +3

      Don't simplify it..Look at the conditions of the drafts in Cabinet Mission..Jinnah wanted grouping of provinces..Two provinces(Bengal and Punjab) were muslim majority with significant non-muslim minority population with respectively 43% and 48%..Jinnah wanted the voting rights for only muslim populations in case of plebisite being held for these two states to exit out..He didn't want the non muslims to be given voting rights in case of a plebisite being held..

    • @matinoutho9058
      @matinoutho9058 Рік тому +1

      The congress should have accepted the cabinet mission plan in principle with other conditions being subject to further negotiations.

    • @iracture
      @iracture 2 місяці тому

      no unity needed after direction action day call. Has anyone made amends for direct action day as of yet ?

  • @anilthapa5631
    @anilthapa5631 6 місяців тому

    Heartiest thanks to Jinnah for the partition. We are safe now from the Jihadis.😊

  • @Nuamsi
    @Nuamsi Рік тому

    Minto Written about a Bald Farishta ( Bald Angel ), An articulate writing about his Time spent in Magistrate Office, A Magistrate Who finds His Writing as Offensive and levied Fine, Which the Magisyrate Himself paid to Pakistan Treasury from his Salary, due to poor Financial Situation of Minto's that Ayesha Jalal mentions.

  • @himanshusrivastava2025
    @himanshusrivastava2025 2 роки тому +2

    At least she puts to rest the lie/ persistent urban legend that Manto left due to a threat to his life.

  • @sandipjoshi1200
    @sandipjoshi1200 3 роки тому +4

    Why did India and Pakistan not hold an independent inquiry to fix responsibility for massacre of thousands of civilians?

  • @ashoks5317
    @ashoks5317 Рік тому

    Good thing the country was partioned as per 1946 ballot results of Muslims. Only sad part was the partion should have been done as per Dr.Ambedkar suggestion.

  • @gitabajpai7630
    @gitabajpai7630 3 роки тому +1

    Fine analysis..
    Just one querry.
    Why did not the wife and other ladies of the family of manto want . To not to return to the country of origin.. Instead remain in lahore.. Pakistan.
    What were their considerations . In this context. This I believe would deepen the insight and lend strength to further analysis of this subject. Thanku.
    Gita. Bajpai. Vadodara.. Gujarat.. India..with origins of lucknow.. Uttar pradesh...

    • @Ali-mi1hn
      @Ali-mi1hn 3 роки тому

      because they believed in Pakistan.

    • @Makrania
      @Makrania 3 роки тому

      Sometimes people made personal decisions to live on one side, instead of the other, not on political bases, but for personal and economic reasons. They may have believed politically one way, but made decisions independent of politics.

    • @whocares3132
      @whocares3132 2 роки тому

      Why people are so stupid!! TThey believed in Islamic Pakisthan They concidered India Darul Harb and not a Darul Islam. Muslims do not accept Non muslim Leadership.

  • @himanshusrivastava2025
    @himanshusrivastava2025 2 роки тому +1

    I still think that had ill health and drinking hadn’t taken his life, Manto would’ve returned to India. He was too much of a free spirit, much like Qurratulain Hyder and Bade Ghulam Ali Khan ab.

  • @1aarora
    @1aarora 2 роки тому +5

    This woman should not be allowed in India, leave alone giving her a platform to speak.
    She speaks badly of India, Indians, and Hindus in particularly.

    • @sarthakpatra
      @sarthakpatra 2 роки тому

      Where ? Can you quote or point out?

    • @utep3
      @utep3 2 роки тому

      Her husband is Hindu (Sugata Bose, grand nephew of Subhash Chandra Bose). She must hate her husband ;)

    • @1aarora
      @1aarora 2 роки тому

      @@utep3 Imran Khan hates Jews, screwed first the Jewish mother and then married the Jewfish daughter - supposedly converting her to Islam.
      Did he stop hating the Jews?
      Go figure.

    • @nikhilhembrom8952
      @nikhilhembrom8952 5 місяців тому

      ​@@utep3Saba naqvi husband is also a brahmin hindu but it didn't stop her from being radical Islamist

  • @muhammadyaseen8240
    @muhammadyaseen8240 2 роки тому

    Ayesha Jalal Ma'am, ❤️

  • @concernedIndianCitizen
    @concernedIndianCitizen 3 роки тому +2

    Jalal😂 so German

  • @sumitkraggarwal5483
    @sumitkraggarwal5483 2 роки тому +4

    फेक हिस्टोरियन है आयशा जलाल

  • @Bumble-Be
    @Bumble-Be 2 роки тому

    JLF inviting fake historians 🤣

  • @Thesage59
    @Thesage59 7 років тому +5

    women you can try to promote pakistan but you can't get good impression!

  • @sherdil7866
    @sherdil7866 7 років тому +4

    WE PAKISTANIS ARE VERY HAPPY THAT WE GOT INDEPENDENCE FROM TERRORIST COUNTRY INDIA.. THANKS TO ALLAH THAT WE ARE FREE NOW.. LIVING A VERY HAPPY LIVES...PROUD TO BE A PAKISTANI...

    • @PrashantKumar-lu4vs
      @PrashantKumar-lu4vs 7 років тому +10

      same here.....

    • @rammittal7087
      @rammittal7087 7 років тому +2

      wow. got lost you dont have any humanity left inside ,nor you cant articulate and form a single sentance without mistakes in English.
      look at my comment and yours.
      how mush civility you have.
      am theist by the way.i dont believe in your god or any god you religious bigot.

    • @pasupathim9747
      @pasupathim9747 5 років тому +1

      These fuckers talking muslims home land.when hindus fight for freedom they waited when freedom is nearing they ask muslim homeland.why don’t they take all muslim from india if they are really care abt muslims. Hindus never seperate muslim becoZ we have sikh jain parsi marwadi christian,buddist.but jinna invoked muslim home land.why they invoke 6th century religion home land when they were belongs to some other religion before 6th century.if muslim homeland why don’t they merge with iran or saudi or Yemen.this lady muslim home land is bluff and fuck her 👄

    • @ShyamKumar-zb2mw
      @ShyamKumar-zb2mw 5 років тому

      I am glad that you are happy !! Indians too need to be eternally grateful to Jinnah.
      If he - in his shortsightedness had not created partition - Muslims currently will be 40% of the population of the state of combined India - and so a dominant force within. :-)
      And perhaps they would also be the most well educated and leaders of the Muslim world. :-)
      So thanks to Jinnah - the Muslim population in the sub-continent now lies fractured and fragmented.
      And BTW - even population size does not matter. Look how just 11 million Jews - more than over-dominate and crush the 1.9 billion Muslims worldwide. :-)

    • @krishnanb.s.5581
      @krishnanb.s.5581 4 роки тому +1

      India a Terrorist Country ? Cat calling the kettle Black. The whole world is pissed with Pakistan's links to terror attacks and about be Blacklisted by FATF. You should be updated in current affairs. I thank Jinnah for initiating the partition. The crap of India migrated there so we got saved in India from the chaos it would have caused.