I am listening to this and have come to the part where Dr. Goodman is talking about receiving priesthood blessings where he is told that he will be healed, but still has cancer. I don't have cancer, but I do have chronic pain. In the blessing that I received, I was told that my pain would not be taken from me, but that it was for my edification. This has taught me that there are two types of healing, spiritual and physical. So for me, I continue to deal with pain, but spiritually the pain that I deal with strenghthens my relationship with Heavenly Father and His Son, and I am being healed spiritual.
I’ve had treatment resistant depression and chronic pain for about 11 years now so I can relate to what you’re saying and my heart goes out to you. Spiritual healing is far more important than physical healing. If our suffering causes us to have a broken heart and contrite spirit and draw closer to God then it’s worth it. There is a price for sanctification and it’s always worth paying.
Please let Dr Goodman that sometimes the healing refers to healing of the soul rather than the physical body. This was a lesson I had to learn when my husband died after being blessed to be healed.
19:11 I think some of us really live under a cloud of self dislike. That too is a misconception and as long as Heavenly Father loves us we need to love us ourselves as He does in order to love others and look after ourselves so that we can be and serve as intended by Heaven. Thank you for your podcasts. This one in particular made me cry though, going through some stuff at the moment not cancer but it's still heavy. Dr Goodman!!!!!!! I was called to repentance in the most lovely way... Thank you
The little pioneer girl whose story was referenced by John Bytheway was Agnes Caldwell (Southworth), my husband’s great grandmother. The story is printed in the book, I Walked to Zion, by Susan Arrington Madison.
Why do some people think that a righteous person who dies is the person who isn't receiving the blessings. What an amazing blessing to leave this earth righteously and receive the great blessings waiting that righteous person.
I have done some grief counseling in my medical career and I did pick up that these men were ruining anything or saying that there was only one way to grieve. They just told an inspirational story. I appreciate your great instruction from the Church website, though. Everyone needs to hear and be reminded of how to mindfully mourn with those who mourn or what expect of themselves during hard, difficult times in their lives. That information is timely and beautiful.
You should have Brother Griggs on your podcast! He was my New Testament professor at BYU, and he's amazing. He taught straight out of his Greek scriptures:)
Always love your discussions! I am thinking this discussion was posted on FB the same day I had the opportunity to say hello to Hank while we were both at the Liberty Jail visitors center.
I enjoy these podcsts but wish the sources etc of quotes from talks etc would be given. I look in the show notes but the exact source is hard to decern. The date, where given etc as you are quoting would be helpful ( conference, Sperry symposium, BYU speeches etc with the date would be so helpful)
I was pleased to finally understand why sometimes certain peoples weren't sought out to teach.When did the word 'suicidality' come into use, for pities sake? Apart from hearing that, a very interesting podcast. Thanks.
Ahhh...and it was such a great lesson. Then you had to set up opportunities for people to judge others faith based on their reaction to tragedy - If they had faith they would react the way Pat and Ashely did. First of all, yes, they did react well. You don't know if they reacted that way in private or not. This is exactly the reason that my friend, who was a leader in her stake, acted like everything was fine when her son died. She even hosted the dinner after the funeral at her home because someone in their ward had died the year before and they had given a fireside the next weekend. and everyone had commented on their "great faith." She didn't want people to think that she didn't have faith. It wasn't until a week later that she called me to come and help her (I lived far away, and so I hadn't even heard about the accident). As soon as another friend and I got there she started to fall apart (she literally fell to her knees in the middle of the grocery store). She was finally able to talk about that day and grieve the way she needed to. Look up Grief and Loss on the Church's website. Part of what it says is: Grief can be an overpowering emotion. Almost everyone experiences it at some point in life. Death is part of God’s plan of happiness, but even with that understanding, many people find it difficult to grapple with the emotions that surround losing someone they love. Additionally, death is not the only source of grief; other kinds of loss invoke feelings of grief, such as losing a job, a relationship, health, and so on. Grief is a normal response to loss and an emotional transition on the path to joy, not an expression of weakness or a lack of faith in God or His love. Those who mourn need time to grieve their losses, and they need supportive friends and family to be with them through that experience. The amount of time needed for grief to run its natural, healthy course varies from person to person, depending on several factors. Was the loss sudden or agonizingly anticipated? In the case of death, how emotionally close was the mourner to the deceased? How much did the person depend on who or what was lost? These and other elements increase our understanding of how to help someone who is grieving. Some people might need to avoid things that remind them of their loss, while others might find comfort in memories. Some might need time away before they feel able to socialize or attend church meetings and activities, while others might crave social connection immediately. Everyone is different, and individual paths forward will vary. As you minister to someone struggling with grief, show love first and foremost. Statements like these may help you communicate empathy: help you communicate empathy: “I don’t know what to say, but I want you to know I care about you.” “You don’t have to talk if you don’t want to, but I’m here to listen if you do.” “It’s OK to have different feelings from one day, or one moment, to the next. There’s no one right way to feel. Just let yourself experience emotions as they come.” “I’m really sorry you have to go through this.” ...read the rest of it. And let's all stop stomping on people's already broken hearts.
I think we can voice respect for someone's response to horrible tragedy without feeling less-than ourselves. I didn't hear any implication or direction in this lesson that I am not allowed to grieve in my own way and on my own timeline. Having a standard or an ideal is not a bad thing unless I, myself, use it to beat others or myself up.
I'm not sure about the "sales pitch" thought. Wouldn't the most ideal pitch come from someone who is intimately familiar with the product and truly believes it is worth promoting? Just a thought...
I really enjoy listening to your podcast. Although, one of the recent episodes one of you said something to the effect that “I guess we should say the comings of Christ”. Jesus Christ and Heavenly Father appeared to the prophet Joseph Smith in a “vision”. ?????? I heard from one of your guest on another occasion about “Simon the Lepered” and laughed. Which I understood that she & you were laughing bc the scriptures give no insight as to who this man was. Still I have to say that unfortunately I have stopped listening to your podcast bc of these incidents. Especially about the, “comings of Christ”. It’s not doctrinally accurate. Thank you. Please know that I say this with all loving kindness ❤
Thanks for listening. Dr. Goodman shared this already on a previous episode last year and he explains later in this episode why it's important for him to share his personal struggles.
I’m not sure that God loves all of his children. The Scriptures seem pretty clear that, “he that is righteous is favored of the Lord . . . And he loveth those who will have him to be their God ( 1 Nephi 17:35, 40). There are many scriptures which state that he loves those who keep his commandments. There are even some scriptures that state he hates the wicked. Maybe he “yearns for all his children“ but probably doesn’t love them all.
I agree. Unconditional love is not supported by the scriptures. Christ's arms are open to welcome all back who repent. But even Jesus loved John "The Beloved" more than other apostles.
I am listening to this and have come to the part where Dr. Goodman is talking about receiving priesthood blessings where he is told that he will be healed, but still has cancer. I don't have cancer, but I do have chronic pain. In the blessing that I received, I was told that my pain would not be taken from me, but that it was for my edification. This has taught me that there are two types of healing, spiritual and physical. So for me, I continue to deal with pain, but spiritually the pain that I deal with strenghthens my relationship with Heavenly Father and His Son, and I am being healed spiritual.
I’ve had treatment resistant depression and chronic pain for about 11 years now so I can relate to what you’re saying and my heart goes out to you. Spiritual healing is far more important than physical healing. If our suffering causes us to have a broken heart and contrite spirit and draw closer to God then it’s worth it. There is a price for sanctification and it’s always worth paying.
Please let Dr Goodman that sometimes the healing refers to healing of the soul rather than the physical body. This was a lesson I had to learn when my husband died after being blessed to be healed.
19:11 I think some of us really live under a cloud of self dislike. That too is a misconception and as long as Heavenly Father loves us we need to love us ourselves as He does in order to love others and look after ourselves so that we can be and serve as intended by Heaven. Thank you for your podcasts. This one in particular made me cry though, going through some stuff at the moment not cancer but it's still heavy. Dr Goodman!!!!!!! I was called to repentance in the most lovely way... Thank you
I love Dr. Goodman's remarks about love and acceptance. Such a vital lesson for us today.
The little pioneer girl whose story was referenced by John Bytheway was Agnes Caldwell (Southworth), my husband’s great grandmother. The story is printed in the book, I Walked to Zion, by Susan Arrington Madison.
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I found this helpful definition for "respecter of persons"--Someone who treats people according to their rank, status or importance.
My family and I lived in Brother Goodman’s ward for several years. He is a wonderful Christlike man. Please keep having him on. I love his insights!
Why do some people think that a righteous person who dies is the person who isn't receiving the blessings. What an amazing blessing to leave this earth righteously and receive the great blessings waiting that righteous person.
I have done some grief counseling in my medical career and I did pick up that these men were ruining anything or saying that there was only one way to grieve. They just told an inspirational story. I appreciate your great instruction from the Church website, though. Everyone needs to hear and be reminded of how to mindfully mourn with those who mourn or what expect of themselves during hard, difficult times in their lives. That information is timely and beautiful.
P.s. thank you all!
You should have Brother Griggs on your podcast! He was my New Testament professor at BYU, and he's amazing. He taught straight out of his Greek scriptures:)
Always love your discussions! I am thinking this discussion was posted on FB the same day I had the opportunity to say hello to Hank while we were both at the Liberty Jail visitors center.
I enjoy these podcsts but wish the sources etc of quotes from talks etc would be given. I look in the show notes but the exact source is hard to decern. The date, where given etc as you are quoting would be helpful ( conference, Sperry symposium, BYU speeches etc with the date would be so helpful)
I love this show but, I think if you got the guests together in person the show would be perfection
The story about the little girl and the man having her run before pulling her into the wagon: that is in the movie 17 Miracles
I was pleased to finally understand why sometimes certain peoples weren't sought out to teach.When did the word 'suicidality' come into use, for pities sake? Apart from hearing that, a very interesting podcast. Thanks.
This story was during the rescue of Wiley Martin handcart company
Ahhh...and it was such a great lesson. Then you had to set up opportunities for people to judge others faith based on their reaction to tragedy - If they had faith they would react the way Pat and Ashely did. First of all, yes, they did react well. You don't know if they reacted that way in private or not. This is exactly the reason that my friend, who was a leader in her stake, acted like everything was fine when her son died. She even hosted the dinner after the funeral at her home because someone in their ward had died the year before and they had given a fireside the next weekend. and everyone had commented on their "great faith." She didn't want people to think that she didn't have faith. It wasn't until a week later that she called me to come and help her (I lived far away, and so I hadn't even heard about the accident). As soon as another friend and I got there she started to fall apart (she literally fell to her knees in the middle of the grocery store). She was finally able to talk about that day and grieve the way she needed to.
Look up Grief and Loss on the Church's website. Part of what it says is:
Grief can be an overpowering emotion. Almost everyone experiences it at some point in life. Death is part of God’s plan of happiness, but even with that understanding, many people find it difficult to grapple with the emotions that surround losing someone they love. Additionally, death is not the only source of grief; other kinds of loss invoke feelings of grief, such as losing a job, a relationship, health, and so on. Grief is a normal response to loss and an emotional transition on the path to joy, not an expression of weakness or a lack of faith in God or His love.
Those who mourn need time to grieve their losses, and they need supportive friends and family to be with them through that experience. The amount of time needed for grief to run its natural, healthy course varies from person to person, depending on several factors. Was the loss sudden or agonizingly anticipated? In the case of death, how emotionally close was the mourner to the deceased? How much did the person depend on who or what was lost? These and other elements increase our understanding of how to help someone who is grieving.
Some people might need to avoid things that remind them of their loss, while others might find comfort in memories. Some might need time away before they feel able to socialize or attend church meetings and activities, while others might crave social connection immediately. Everyone is different, and individual paths forward will vary.
As you minister to someone struggling with grief, show love first and foremost. Statements like these may help you communicate empathy:
help you communicate empathy:
“I don’t know what to say, but I want you to know I care about you.”
“You don’t have to talk if you don’t want to, but I’m here to listen if you do.”
“It’s OK to have different feelings from one day, or one moment, to the next. There’s no one right way to feel. Just let yourself experience emotions as they come.”
“I’m really sorry you have to go through this.”
...read the rest of it. And let's all stop stomping on people's already broken hearts.
I think we can voice respect for someone's response to horrible tragedy without feeling less-than ourselves. I didn't hear any implication or direction in this lesson that I am not allowed to grieve in my own way and on my own timeline. Having a standard or an ideal is not a bad thing unless I, myself, use it to beat others or myself up.
❤
I'm not sure about the "sales pitch" thought. Wouldn't the most ideal pitch come from someone who is intimately familiar with the product and truly believes it is worth promoting? Just a thought...
I really enjoy listening to your podcast.
Although, one of the recent episodes one of you said something to the effect that “I guess we should say the comings of Christ”.
Jesus Christ and Heavenly Father appeared to the prophet Joseph Smith in a “vision”.
??????
I heard from one of your guest on another occasion about “Simon the Lepered” and laughed. Which I understood that she & you were laughing bc the scriptures give no insight as to who this man was.
Still I have to say that unfortunately I have stopped listening to your podcast bc of these incidents.
Especially about the, “comings of Christ”.
It’s not doctrinally accurate.
Thank you. Please know that I say this with all loving kindness ❤
Did Dr Goodman want them announcing his personal struggles to the world? I hope they asked before as that is an invasion of privacy.
Thanks for listening. Dr. Goodman shared this already on a previous episode last year and he explains later in this episode why it's important for him to share his personal struggles.
At 23:34 he says, “The Lord has shewed me . . .” It’s easy, sew is pronounced “so”. Shewed is pronounced “showed”. NOT shood.
I’m not sure that God loves all of his children. The Scriptures seem pretty clear that, “he that is righteous is favored of the Lord . . . And he loveth those who will have him to be their God ( 1 Nephi 17:35, 40).
There are many scriptures which state that he loves those who keep his commandments. There are even some scriptures that state he hates the wicked. Maybe he “yearns for all his children“ but probably doesn’t love them all.
I agree. Unconditional love is not supported by the scriptures. Christ's arms are open to welcome all back who repent. But even Jesus loved John "The Beloved" more than other apostles.
Christ seems to have a distaste for pork.