Surface Pro 8 Replaced My MacBook AND iPad Pro
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- Опубліковано 25 лют 2022
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@@DylanParisMusic What sort of battery life are you getting? I have a Surface pro 6 which I bought off eBay and while it is beefy enough for my development stuff (I currently use an M1 Mac for work so I am not currently working on any side projects), it is not battery efficient at all. The second hand Surface pro 6 which I have literally lasts 1 hr on battery with battery saving on -_- So I am either looking to buy Surface Laptop 4 which is $900 currently or Suface pro 8 which would be costlier, but I have the ability to also use the pen if necessary. I need a Surface with amazing battery life as well as decent performance.
@@DylanParisMusic I have the m1 pro 14 inch MacBook Pro that I'm renting to own for $123.23 a month . should I return it and get the m2 MacBook Air for $85 a month or the surface pro 8 with i5 8gb ram 256gb for $55 a month?
I mainly use my devices for emails and to watch content and listen to music.
Apple will never blend a laptop and a tablet cause they WANT you to buy both! Surface is definitely the way to go
Yes, I want a Surface Pro 8. But Microsoft not selling it in India. So sad 😔
“Wanting” you to buy both, and having you *actually* buy both are two different things. If products like the Surface Pro serve both needs, people will start to abandon the Apple products for one’s like Microsoft’s. That’s shaky ground to be on.
I have waited eternally for Mac Book pro to have touch and pen input...
@@DomainObject they will not
@@Akella1986 They will not what? Bend laptop and tablet? Depends what is meant by that.
They’re already well on their way by bringing mouse/trackpad support and a windowing system. All they need to do is drop the pro apps or give us macOS and the blend is pretty much complete.
I bought a Surface Pro 7+ recently and I'm loving how it is more capable than my iPad Pro 11 simply because it has a full-blown OS.
Just imagine m2 iPad with macOS, ideally windows haha
Same. Except I’ve had a Surface Pro 7+ since launch, and recently got a iPad Air M1 to replace my aging Fire.
A device that lags and is unresponsive to touch input. Not to mention the Ntrig tech is flawed. Surface pen strokes suffer from crazy jitter when the screen gets hot or when the device is plugged into an outlet, which is all the time because it’s running a full blown OS with lackluster cooling for the sake of aesthetics.
@@spaghettimeatballswow the lag doesn’t exist anymore with slim pen 2 and newer surface device well from my experience with surface laptop studio
How many hours of battery life on Surface Pro 7❤
I like that you point out how the SP8 makes you life easier and lighter. I am also glad to see that it is powerfull enough.
Not many people understand how capable the SP8 is. Many are looking for incredible high specs, new 12th gen proccessor which is a huge improvement and similar. But at the end, really the grand majority of people would find the SP8 more then enough for the next 3-4 years. The problem is that UA-camrs are not regular users, so, by looking at their reviews, it appears that power is so important while in reality most people would barely notice the difference.
As you mentioned, people often buy more diveces, spend a lot, carry more chargers, deal with files sharing and migrations but at the end, use one single device at the time (with the exception of rendering and similar long tasks where having a second device may be convenient).
What the SP8 gives is a HUGE flexibility... you can even add an eGPU for occasional gaming or 3D tasks!
My only wish for the future is having the possibility of a wider screen.
For Sales calls, programming, 3D modelling, note taking, reading and noting music sheets, office work, drawing and sketching, reading, occasional gaming, video editing... the list of things you can do with the SP8 is just absurd! And you have always access to any of these, anywhere with super light traveling. Its life changing!
crazy part is even without a eGPU you can still run games at 60fps or higher on good graphic settings. the SP8 is a beast i’m currently saving to purchase one I love it so much 😭
@@Dee-- eGPUs dont add as much power as advertised, especially for the $
What sort of battery life are you getting? I have a Surface pro 6 which I bought off eBay and while it is beefy enough for my development stuff (I currently use an M1 Mac for work so I am not currently working on any side projects), it is not battery efficient at all. The second hand Surface pro 6 which I have literally lasts 1 hr on battery with battery saving on -_- So I am either looking to buy Surface Laptop 4 which is $900 currently or Suface pro 8 which would be costlier, but I have the ability to also use the pen if necessary. I need a Surface with amazing battery life as well as decent performance.
@@SahilP2648 you can try the somewhat hazardous SP6 battery replacement process, if you go slow and keep heating the adhesive that holds the display on... you can't upgrade the memory unless youre willing to resolder new memory on the mainboard... no SP has great battery life, even new. my SP6 had about 4 hours brand new.
@@SahilP2648 it is odd. It seems to be draining fast by looking at the icon, but it lasts longer then expected. Said that the M1 lasts much longer. Surface Pro 8 does not last for a full day of work.
I currently have an 8 yo ipad that's on the fritz. I've been wanting a hybrid and have had my eye on the surface pro for a really long time now. It was your video that finally convinced me to get one. Here's to hoping it will also last 8+ years!
Great to hear your thoughts. I bought a Surface Pro 8 in preference to an iPad Pro because I think the iPad costs too much for what it does. The iPad might be a bit nicer to hold and it might have a brighter screen but it’s got all the limitations you mention. The Surface Pro 8 may not be the best tablet or the best laptop that the same money will buy but, for me, it is easily is good enough at everything it does. That means I only need one device - and that is great for travel. So, on my last trip, I left my M1 Macbook Pro at home and, aside from that awesome battery life, I didn’t miss it at all. In fact, the Pro8 battery life is pretty impressive.
I have to keep my M1 MacBook Air around (but don’t have to take it with me often) due to it being required to publish App Store apps. I only really use it otherwise when I need amazing battery life. Otherwise I use my Pro 8.
I feel like the pro 8 is finally close to really replacing an iPad Pro properly now that the new gestures and taskbar are coming, so I’ll probably finally get rid of my 11” iPad Pro 2018 and use the Pro 8 for 90% or more of my computing
You are right. I’m going to do the same from just a slight different production perspective: publishing ebooks, audiobooks, a bit of programming with WSL, note taking and using the stylus on pdfs, office, upload videos, preparing courses, etc. etc. It seems to me a much more rational one-device strategy.
I have been using a MacBook Pro 16 and Ipad pro and wasn't getting the portability I was looking for to still have a full operating system and the portability of an Ipad. the Microsoft surface pro 8 has made this super easy to carry around and do the things I need a PC for on the go. I didn't want to go to windows but this device is a game changer. Love this device and have not used my Ipad or MacBook since I purchased this.
Glad to hear this....similar story to mine...returned my ipad pro 12.9 M1 because, besides better res, it really doesn't do anything more or significantly better than my existing 2018. Then came surface pro 8 and I found myself using it all the time. It may not be the most powerful, but it sits at a sweetest spot where it does everything for me and does it well. I bought ipad mini around the same time as I thought it's betrayal to complertey forgo using apple, but all I really use it is for reading and youtube binging. Surface Pro 8 has now become my daily driver. Combine it with Microsoft's 4K wireless display driver and I have it on my projector or TV when I want to go big wirelessly. Then throw in the surface duo 2 with 'my phone' app, and Surface Pro 8 is really all I ever need. I guess, I am a convert after being an apple person for decades. There is just so much more that I can do with surface devices and even android, than I ever could with iOS/iPadOS. Notwithstanding number crunching, I must admit that there is something about Surface devices that I actually enjoy and love using them.
I got the same spec device to replace both an ageing iPad and also an ageing i7 6700K powered desktop.
Got to say I'm absolutely blown away by it. I can do work at home or at my desk or on the road and my stuff is always with me. No shuffling files between disks or the cloud, no organising different workspaces. It's just like always having my desktop setup with me everywhere...because that's what I do have. Love it
I really like how you explained the advantages of surface pro 8. I bought one and I am enjoying how easy to carry it and it is powerful laptop and tablet. Thanks
Thank you for your practical insight. You have experienced both sides and have a REAL experience on the technology instead of other YT who just hype things up. Respect to you and the channel. Subbed!
This is sooo helpful , i been stuck over what to buy the mac pro or the ipad and i also wanted what the windows offered and this review just makes so much sense !! Thank you so much for this
Im all in with the 180 turns you do! Looking forward the follow ups on this one!
🙏😎 appreciate you being here on the journey!
Thanks a lot for your review. It helps a lot. I am a Studio One user, I plan to use this for it.
I couldn’t agree more. Been using the SP4 for 6 years now. Done audio production, recording, mixing, photo editing, some light video editing and gaming.. still going strong as my main office pc for when I’m out and at home with the dock and 2 extra monitors. Also have an iPad Pro which I had to get for work. Nowhere near the versatility and general usefulness. The ipad is mainly a very expensive, glorified notepad and UA-cam machine for me.
I’m still using my surface pro 4 and it still runs like a charm. I’m going to upgrade now. Great vid
Bandlab has actually been great for me as a beginner with making music. Cloud-based but also has a full on DAW if I wanna use that later on.
i have one since March and I love it. Using it as a tablet for handwriting during lectures and as a full PC when back home. If I ever need more graphics power, there is always the option of plugging in an external GPU via thunderbolt 4.
I have the 7 and forgot about the external GPU capability on the 8 😫
I have a Macbook Air as my personal laptop and a microsoft surface pro 7+ for work and like you, I was blown away by how easy it is to handle as a laptop and as an ipad. It is very travel friendly and it fits in most of my handbags. Im in love with it and now im thinking about selling my own macbook air and buying a surface pro 8 for myself as personal laptop. If I do so...i think next step would be getting rid of my ipad air or buying a mini-ipad instead. Overall i think its a great product.
I really appreciate this because it seems really honest and unbiased
but theres an amazon link to buy it.... microsoft sells this too.. just sayin.. unbiased huh..ok.
3:08 With TRUE Intent. That SMILE says it all!! Well done.
Best video I've ever seen like this. You were accurate and succinct.
Pretty practical & honest review.
In still using a Surface Pro 5 (2017) and still loving it!! I prefer Galaxy tablet for the more simple tasks, but the Surface is my workhorse. 😊❤️👍
Only because of your video, I have bought the surface pro 8.
I am really AMAZEEED from this machine.
The fact that you can control the mixer manually through ableton, read sheet music in a bright and visible screen through mobile sheets, and ACTUALLY RUN OS plugins such as-superior drummer 3, omnisphere and etc. Is the best thing I had ever dreamt of.
I remember telling myself "with this device, i feel like i'm in the future"
Hi is your surface pro 8 still holding up and do you have the i5 or the i7 ?
@@Michael-vf5id
I'm in love with this device, and I wish I bought it sooner.
I have the i7 with the 32GB RAM.
It is really powerful, and using it as a sheet music viewer, and ALL I can say, is that it's working perfectly fine, and in the worst case scenerio- I have a warranty for a replacement(paid extra).
What are your goals with this device?
Im also in Apple Eco and think of ditching the macbook pro for an SP8 and get an Aorus Box for some 3D rendering when needed. iPad OS is for touch & Pencil only and ok there is software for 3D art but MacOS is for trackpad only. Give it a mouse and keyboard and you can’t use it on external screen. Not to mention the software compatibility, need for parallels/windows etc. The continuity is the most significant feature keeping you in the Apple loop i guess.
An honest and thought out filled with practical experience review. Subscribed.
thank you!
Thanks for the video! U made me order my sp8. when you were talking about NI and all the plugins I got hyped! Thank u so much!
Great video mate and nice to see someone touching on the whole ‘power benchmark’ issue.
I think I’m selling my m1 pro for this. As an artist I want a tablet and pc in one. Needed this 🤙🤙
Just bought because of your review. Thanks mate👋🏿
happy my review helped, hope you enjoy the surface!
Thank you Dylan - very informative and helpful for my decision between IPad Pro vs Surface Pro
Flexibility is King. Correct.
Had pro7.
Traded pro7 for pro8 because I knew the slim pen, keyboard, USBC, etc...were similar options to the proX.
This is finally a great combo of pro7 specs and proX.
Very happy.
Also, pairing the device to your phone and tv is a smooth experience compared to pro7.
I cast back and forth from the tv, to the phone, and back again with ease.
Casting to the tv to watch a film wirelessly is perfect now...no hiccups like pro7. And pro7 wasn't even that bad. The casting to the tv to do simple tasks like writing an essay in word, watching movies in a movie player, streaming, or looking at web content is uninterrupted.
Playing apps like MAME through casting doesn't quite work yet. Lol. Too heavy. At that point I play it on the device and it works flawlessly. Otherwise I can just attach with wire with USB-C. Two usb-c!!!
The speed of moving files back and forth from portable drives is incredible! Much faster than pro7.
The 120 MHz is also a plus for MAME games and other apps. Drawing in art apps is a much smoother experience than pro7. And again, pro7 wasn't bad. But this pro8 has been ramped up in many ways! It's quite a difference from pro7.
I don't think usb-c can sub as chargers. I tried several ways to charge from the usb-c. Nothing. Pro7 could be charged from usb-c and it's regular charger. Not pro8. Anyways. I'm sure someone has made a program to allow for that. Lol.
The larger screen is nice.
The pen in the keyboard is so much better.
I have always used windows filing and folders so I'm glad this is a window pc/tablet.
I also didn't want an iPad separate from mac idea. You have to add apps that allow you to organize files and folders in iPad. Will iPad ever have a filing and folder system like the mac? Or does it? It's been a while since I looked.
Like you said. Flexibility. I have my PC filing and folder system in my tablet/PC. No need for a giant separate PC tower. I love the small formfactor for what I do. I don't need a lot of power. The extra features and power it now has it far above what I need! So I'm happy.
Using PS4 and Xbox gamepads are great too.
And using Samsung earbuds is flawless.
Karaoke and casting with this device to a Google max speaker is flawless now! No wires!
Bluetooth rocks!
Best surface ever!
Was I always fan? Nope.
Do I love the iPad? Yes. That pen is undefeatable. But the slim pen with haptic feedback is cool. It's pretty amazing to draw with that pen. If I had a lot of money I would have a pro8 and an iPad. Lol. iPad on the road. Pro8 at home. The iPad for certain art apps. I'm jealous of some of the iPad apps for sure.
Anyways.
Great reviews
Even though I use lots of Apple products at home but when it comes to real work I always use my surface pro. I just love this thing.
Thanks for sharing this! Really helpful
Great review, very succinct. I have a Surface Laptop Studio that's a bit of a chonky boi but serves me very well. Looking forward to more videos of you pushing the envelope with the i7 SP8.
I thought a lot about the laptop studio as well! It looks super cool and that discrete GPU is a big plus
Interesting video, this is the 3rd report I have heard in 3 months, regards to the Surface 8 and it’s brilliance. I’m going to take a look in 2023, as I’m hardly using my Mac software now, I’ll keep them but possibly use this for work/ productivity.🙏
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I'm glad you enjoyed it 😊😊
Apple has to know almost everyone feels like this. Salute
Tq sooo much for the video man❤️... It was soo help full to clear my doubts🐼😇
iPad's powerful processor is not utilised by the limiting iPad OS. On the other hand, Microsoft Surface pro 8 have a full fledged windows. So, it is more usable for most of the work. (I'm a Physics researcher, I can perform my research programming, run the necessary softwares on windows and mac, but not in ipad)..
Agreed, if Apple let users actually take advantage of the hardware it would be a really interesting product
Thanks for the video! It’s been 3 months. How has it been with the Surface Pro?
I just bought Surface Pro 8 today with the same reason you shared here... Hope it will serve me well...
Nice! I've still been really enjoying mine, hope yours treats you well!
Great Real review
Personally I think if Apple allows pro apps and desktop interface in the ipad os, it will compete with the macbooks, I'm guessing they don't want that but then again what's the point in adding 16gb ram and an m1 chip to the ipad pro models? 🤷🏽♂️
Apple knows their consumers will always buy 2 devices instead of 1...lol
Actually it’s didn’t compete, Desktop are rare now most offices and working from home people use laptops especially who need to do more typing, typing documents using Tablets keyboard for daily work it’s a punishment, for those that their work need them to go out and mobile they need Tablets, having the IPads with MacBook capabilities will make more people join the Apple ecosystem
Yeah I got rid of my iPad and MacBook Air and I got an SP8 and it is way better then having to carry two devices it's powerful and it's great love it
I so much feel you, I'm programming game and I wish I could do that on my iPad Pro (not m1), but I'm so frustrated that I really want to buy a surface pro 8. The form factor is great, i could do all the graphics for my games on it, the music on it (although I sincerely love garageband) and that's it! I'm just waiting for the WWDC because apparently this year could be the year where Apple FINALLY release Xcode (application mandatory for releasing any software on anything Apple) on the iPad, aswell as Logic Pro and final Cut pro (not for me, but certainly for other people). I just wish Apple could just give the iPad finally a reason to be called "Pro"
I waited for so long for Apple to finally add those pro apps and just gave up. It will probably happen someday, but every year I think it will happen it doesn't :[[
I'm excited to see how the surface handles all those plug-ins.
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Thanks man!
This is a very good and informative video! Good job man!
Thank you!
Thanks for the review. I've been a Mac guy for the past 15 years, and after purchasing a new 14" M1 last summer, before the Pro and Max chips, I'm finally done with Mac. Not interested in having to spend another $500 to get dual display capabilities. Saw the new Surface Pro 8 at Best Buy last week and it looks like the one device to replace my MacBook Pro and iPad.
Can you provide a link to the 1TB SSD you ordered? I'm not a creative, but a professional who needs good tech to get massive amount of work done.
Thanks.
that seller isn't up anymore but you can use this article to find good options on ebay www.windowscentral.com/surface-pro-8-ssd
@@DylanParisMusic ask google after "m.2 2230 ssd 1tb" - Koaxia (former Toshiba) or for a PM991 from side of Samsung
Most important is the form factor: 2230
Hi is your surface pro 8 still holding up and do you have the i5 or the i7 ?
I still rock the SP6. This type of device really is the best blend of all worlds. Its small and light like a tablet when you want it to be, and for just a little more weight and bulk by adding the keyboard it becomes a full blown laptop. Thinking about getting the SP9, but I do use the audio jack so might just pick up the SP8 on sale. Only thing I hate on the SP8/SP9 is that terrible power and volume button placement. That needs to be on the top, period, end of story. That is a pretty big miss. But getting the Thunderbolt 4 ports, the larger screen, and the better pen are pretty big upgrades from the SP6.
I bought the surface pro 8 for school work starting in september, ive been using it for about 2 months now, it is an amazing laptop, the smoothness of windows 11 paired with the 11th gen cpu is so nice. Only issue i have is the worry of putting too much pressure on the keyboard
Hi is your surface pro 8 still holding up and do you have the i5 or the i7 ?
@@Michael-vf5id The surface is holding up amazingly well, os is still smooth and the keyboard hasn’t gotten any major damage which I feared before, but I still am cautious when using it. I have the i7 edition
Is the battery life good? As my surface pro 7, battery can only last for 2hours. Get heated and laggy when charging.
Welcome to the club. SPX user for 3 years now. #heaven.
You switched to SP8 for the exact same reasons as me. I had an iPad Pro but constantly disappointed by Apples direction on it!
Hey Dylan ❤
After you made me fall in love with this thing I bought an old secondhand surface pro 5 as a test device. I need windows for my main income and was getting tired of having a MacBook Pro, iPad mini, iPhone to tether internet to -> windows lenovo thinkpad, a portable modem etc.
I was carrying too many devices just so I could run my business using teamviewer on an apple device.. stupidest thing I ever done.
The surface pro 5 has a sim card slot and doesn't even have internal fans. I can tune engines using it all day long, and the cpu percentage is no different to the M1 MacBook Pro.
I sold the MacBook Pro a few days ago and travelled from Germany to Atlanta with just the surface pro and a new android phone.
surface pro weighs around 800g. MacBook 1400g+.
I been making trap beats on the plane. In fact, one of the three beats should be sold and I just got here.
You're cool btw 💪🏽 nice channel man 🔊
Thanks for watching and sharing your experience! Congrats on selling that beat!
@@DylanParisMusic ❤️
I wasn't expecting this coming from you lol. But you made a really good point there 😅 👍🏻. If I'm not mistaken, it has two Thunderbolt™4 ports and you can plug an external GPU in case you need more power.
Yeah I wish there were cheaper enclosure options and the GPU market wasn't so nuts right now cause that sounds amazing!
Thank you for posting this! Looking to play here & there on my Surface (has an i5) but don’t want to buy a pc or another device. Any recs on budget friendly egpu?
I nearly decided to go for it but was not so sure, I needed this excellent review to get that final kick, I definitely getting it today, thanks
Hi is your surface pro 8 still holding up and do you have the i5 or the i7 ?
@@Michael-vf5id it's doing great, o got the i7, battery life not so great though
Fantastic review
Thanks!
Yo! Great video! Question: Where did you order the SSD upgrade from? Many thanks in advance!
got it on Ebay from a random seller, seems to be the best bet but they're pretty overpriced cause they're a rare form factor
Great video. Thanks.
Thank you for watching
damn that is wonderfully said. "it's a desktop when i need it and a tablet when i don't need my desktop" that's exactly what i've been wanting for so long. thank you for the video!
glad you enjoyed it!
New sub this video definitely sealed the deal for me to get another Surface Pro the last one I had was Surface Pro 4 so the 8 is gonna be a big deal 🙏💪✅ thank you
YES , I BOUGHT 6 SURFACE PRO 5 i7 16GB RAM 512GB FROM ebay.. for all family members...and they are all kicking great.. far better than you can imagine...... BRAVO MICROSOFT
How is ableton and your audio interfaces working? I was thinking to do something similar but I always found mac to be easier to set up and use for music.
I would say the modern macbook pros are still way better for music if that is your main concern. battery life on the surface is much worse and it will hit limits off of wall power in a way the macbooks don't
hey dude, great video.. good luck with your channel
Appreciate it!
Hey man. Do you think 8gbs of ram on surface pro 9 is enough? I only do office , watch movies , write notes in class and do light photoshop work.
"It can be the desktop when I need it, and the Tablet when I don't need a desktop"... This is exactly what I was looking for. For me the SP 8 ticks all the boxes. Sure it isn't the most powerful, but for what it is, it offers the best value for people like me who want our desktop apps on a tablet form factor and also a media or light gaming device on the go. The iPad Pro is sure powerful, beautiful and solid. But I hate that Apple doesn't let it run to its full potential. No full-fledged MacOs app support even though the hardware can support that, or even upgrade the iPad OS to be able to do more. It's quite limited and still feels like a glorified mobile OS and iOS isn't the greatest when it comes to flexibility and what you can do on your mobile devices. The Tab S7/S8 is the next best thing. Android tablet app support is still catching up (quite quickly if I may add), so the Tab S7/S8 is not really an option (I use the S7 btw, great device). Android tablets are great media devices and mobile gaming beasts, but due to lesser app support, they don't check all the boxes.
The SP8 just does it all. Far less powerful, sure, but the only tablet with the greatest flexibility and widest app support. Though I'd most likely hold off on the SP8 and get the SP9, which would likely come with the Alder Lake chipsets for more performance /efficiency. Fingers crossed on an AMD version though that is highly unlikely.
Finally, a reviewer who understands what I need.
Really glad you enjoyed the video! I bet the SP9 will be awesome!
@@taigaramsey8061 Wsa is rolling out and getting better
@@taigaramsey8061 I use the windows link app with my Samsung galaxy 10+ and I can basically use my phone on my SP8. With common clipboard, moving and copying photos and using my phone apps directly on my SP8. It's life changing.
Anybody have problems with 4K 60hz external displays? I cannot get mine to work no matter what I do. With the official Windows drivers 60hz option doesn't appear at all. With the latest Intel drivers the option appears, but the image is all distorted and completely unusable. The dock I have works fine on cheap Samsung laptop with Win11, so I'm confused why it isn't working.
I'm tired of installing Windows again and again trying to troubleshoot this, I really want to like this device but this kills it for me. I might have to send it back. :/
@@kristiankivijarvi3870 is it type-c dock u using?
I currently dont have 4k displays in my home only 1080p 60hz normal display, guess i cant help
But what i use is a type-c usb hub with a hdmi port included to connect to my external display and it works just fine.
I bought the i5 version. I love it!
Very curious to see how this works out for you. I’m so “all in” on the apple eco system that this would be a crazy move for myself. But the idea of one device does seem promising and I could almost see myself abandoning the iOS music production scene in exchange for ableton on a tablet. Looking forward to an update on this in the future.
Definitely excited to see what it can do with the 1tb drive and all my plugins but it keeps exceeding my expectations
@@DylanParisMusic should I return my tab s8 ultra for the tab s8 ultra i7? I mainly watch UA-cam. And occasionally browse the web
If you like the device you have and it does what you need it to I don't see a reason to upgrade
@@DylanParisMusic ok just was asking since right now the surface pro 8 is on sale
The pro 8 is overkill for content consumption in my opinion. If you do wanna do content creation stuff or need a laptop tablet replacement it is awesome. The tab 8 is oled though I believe so you'll probably have a nicer video experience with that one
Can I use this device with illustrator , photos, ect. Also can I put a mouse on it? I basically wanna know this cuz I'm studying graphic design in college and I'm so in love with this but wanna make sure I can do the things I need to do.
I use it for all my thumbnails and the last few 4k video edits on my channel. You might wanna get one from somewhere with a return policy and stress test it with one of your biggest illustrator files to make sure it'll work for you.
@red shadow it definitely can. I survive my graphic design course with surface pro 3 and then surface pro 5. Im now using surface pro 7+
Yes, you can. And it's better.
Would you recommend buying the surface with the i5 core or i7 core with 16 gb of ram?I want to save as much money as possible. Is it worth to spend more money for the i7?
It depends on your use case for sure but I definitely chose the i7 with 16 gigs of ram. That to me is pretty base spec for what I do (4k video editing, thumbnail creation and art, and most importantly music production). You can't upgrade the processor or ram, but you could try out an i5 and benchmark it then return within a return window if you need more power.
@@DylanParisMusic ok thanks for the quick reply :)
ITS JUST THAT, I want this type of device because i think that this is the future, no one can say that the surface pro 8 is not the future, because it is very powerfull and beautifull!
Kudos!
Estava pesquisando sobre estes dispositivos e caí de paraquedas no seu vídeo, e foi uma das melhores avaliações que já vi do aparelho, pois compactuamos de necessidades semelhantes, não vejo a hora de me aventurar em um aparelho desse!
how do you install the 1tb though? and would u go for 8 or 9 now ?
If you do Music Production on Battery how many Hours of batterylife you get from the Surface Pro 8?
Also having a windows device with cellular connectivity is a fantastic way to get unlimited data, instead of using a hotspot.
Great freaking vid
Thank you!
Wow, I did not see this one coming.
Here I am having 2 small (1st gen ) surfaces and wanting to upgrade to a MBP M1Pro 16 inch :) for video, music and photogaphy stuff.
Makes you wonder if it really matters in the long run what you really choose. If ultimately no system is perfect.
Yeah it’s pretty hard to go wrong these days! Lot of awesome options
I had a SP4 but threw it in the bin a couple of years ago because the battery was swelling (safety hazard).
Looooved the PC but really damaged my trust for the brand. If I wanted a new one I had to pay 500 Euros for a refurbished one (I don't like the idea of owning someone else's own PC, and 500 is still a lot).
Apparently the battery issue was only for the SP4 model, so I guess it's better now. But I'll hold off for another year or two just to be sure. :)
oh man that's no good! i'm sorry you had that experience and i appreciate you sharing it
how is the surface bro holding up today Dylan?
i used to have a Surface Pro 4 and absolutely loved it. Brought it to tafe and everyone thought it was so innovative. Loved the 2in1, but i accidentally spilt water on it and fucked it up completely and wasn't in the best place to pay to fix it. After a while, I ended up getting Macbook Pro M1. It's been good but lackluster. It's not the same so I'm planning to sell it after a year or so and get back into the Surface line. I'm thinking this one might be it!!! Does it run all the Adobe programs well? That's the main thing I'm scared about
oh just realised you're more of a music producer. that's awesome! so is my partner and he's thinking of going back to Surface as well. glad I don't sound crazy and being the only one to sell a Macbook Pro M1 for a surface pro
I think the m1 macbooks and especially the m1 pro macbook pros run Adobe a lot better than the surface but I think the i7 surface can handle it, it will just be noisier and slower, and likely have less battery life doing it. But it's more portable and a tablet, so its a trade off for sure
Hm this makes me think.. I've had the surface pro 4 for years now and it's been really bothering me lately. It's slow and sluggish and frustrating to work with when handling multiple tasks. To be fair, it's only 4GB of RAM.
I thought I just won't go with another surface as my next device, because I do want something more powerful. But it seems that maybe the pro 8 is good enough? With i7 and 16GB RAM it should be way better than what I currently have.
I'm also pretty sure that you doing video editing and music production is more demanding than what I do. I'd need it just to handle many word / excel / PowerPoint files in parallel, some coding and bioinformatics and some graphic design / illustration here and there.. the latter is why I'd really like a touch-device again, but for everything else a "proper" laptop seems more reasonable... Ahhh :D
How do you feel about the new ipad OS16 supporting floating windows?
Bummed that it's only on the m1 ipads but makes me hopeful for the future
I have a different dilemma: for portability I can have like 14inch Chromebook with Linux env for like 300usd with 8gb of ram (which is the biggest limitation) which may as well act as a tablet ( I mean Lenovo flex series) which leaves me with like 900 usd for anything else like Mac mini like device which is still portable and with docking station becomes a powerhouse. I don’t know yet whether all in one is the best option given I got children and they already broke some expensive portable devices.
4 months in…. How do you feel?
I’m a teacher and love the Macbook and iPad Pro’s speed. The ipad has so many great useful utilities and the pencil is wonderful for classroom instructions. However there is one thing holding it back - the screen resolution. On a SMART Board the ipad only scales to about 2/3 of the screen. It is so frustrating. I have an apple watch, iPhone and I think I will be going back to Surface Pro’s. I’m very disappointed in how great yet crippled the M1 Ipad is.
Totally agree, if the ipad was a bit more flexible it could be a dream machine!
I love my SP because I don't have to buy a computer AND a tablet.
Sounds like a great device.
But I recently bought the Samsung Galaxy Book Pro 360 for drawing purposes and it's absolutely the best thing I've ever used.
Just like you said in this video, there are other devices that do their stuff better, but for me this one is like... absolutely perfect, it does everything I want, not just draw, and it cost me like 750 dollars...
Just out of curiosity, do you also use the Pen in "laptop mode"? Cause I've had the experience with the Galaxy Book 2 Pro 360 that the screen wobbles too much when using the pen this way. And switching to the tablet mode (either standing up or folded around laying down) felt very unstable to do, because of the thin display, so I'd always fear breaking it
How did this switch work with your other Apple products? I am interested but worried about the compatibility of a surface pro with an iPhone. Does this force you to have an android as well for a phone now?
I already had an Android phone so in that way it was an upgrade. I personally get claustrophobic when one device tries to force me to have another
@@DylanParisMusic thank you very much! I'll give ya a subscribe for your help and advice. Currentlt I have a surface pro (older model). I'm about to buy an iPhone but worried about its compatibility with laptop (backup, storage, file transfers), hoping I can keep my surface pro and eventually upgrade to the SP8 soon!
The iphone is definitely clunkier with windows than it is with Mac, if you are currently on Android you might miss some easy file transfer stuff. But really I'm super pro getting any device you're interested in regardless of ecosystem
tried to crop to snap on Surface pro 8 and I cant control crop with fingers , I cant select a area I want to crop with fingers, it needs keyboards/trackpad to crop the area u want to crop. Is there a way I can crop the screen using my fingers, like using fingers to select area what i want to crop and snap. On windows desktop I hold mouse left button and select the area I want to crop .
Thank you for this video. Now I know that I'll be investing in a surface pro
My mind has changed on this thing over the years, I'd definitely consider looking at different options unless you need windows on a tablet
Dang well after this video it’s makes me want to lean towards the surface pro 8 rather than the new m2 MacBook Air but any suggestions?
It really depends on what you want to do with your computer. If you don't need a tablet mode the m1 / m2 macs are the best computers on the market in my opinion
I've got an MB Air (M1) and really like it (and I have an iPad), but...I sometimes have issues when I need to use Excel and Acrobat Pro for certain projects. Also, I need to use Articulate Storyline--which means I have to use the Parallels desktop to run Windows. Also, sort of annoying. It feels a bit sluggish. I know it would run find on a Windows-based PC because that's what it's made for.
For these reasons, I'm considering a Surface Pro 8. I love the idea of a computer and tablet; makes so much sense. But I am really Apple-oriented and like the interface.
Is the Surface hard to get used to if you really prefer Apple? Also, I'd imagine you have to worry about viruses, etc. Any issues so far?
It’s definitely an adjustment, the m1 macs are probably the smoothest user experience I’ve had and the battery life is a lot better than the surface. I would suggest trying one out that has a return window if you’re not sure
@@DylanParisMusic That's a great idea. Thanks! And I agree re: the M1; it's very smooth.
I'm looking for an alternative to an ipad pro, affinity photo isn't available for android so thought of this as a better solution but the price for the i7 16gb ram version is approx £1,300.
The 2021 ipad pro 12.9 256gb version is approx £800 - £900.
And the ipad pro 2022 version is £1,319.
I don't really like apple products though, there too over priced and too limited with them.
I'd have to check if there is any good pens for the windows one too.
It looks like a great product, shame it's a bit pricey though. Thanks.
I hate the headphone jack is gone I love tb4 for future egpu upgrades and fast ssds.
I'm waiting for Microsoft to 1 up to the m1/m2 chip. I want to upgrade my surface pro 5 to the 8 but as of right now, a traditional laptop seems to be the best option for me.
yeah a silent and fanless surface pro with the same battery life and power as a macbook air would be amazing