I had this camera called the Sure Shot Ace in the UK, I bought mine in 1989. I liked the waist level finder, remote control and ergonomics. Some of these cemras would under expose by a lot others would expose correctly. These cameras attracted interest for thier ergonomic styling, If I remember correctly they were styled by Colani who did the Canon T90.
Great idea with a P&S series. I have more than a handful myself including a Minolta Riva Zoom 105i (with auto zoom), that I got a while ago because it was so-called "old new stock" mint in box and still in plastic wrappings inside the box. I plan to test shoot it during my summer vacation time in August. My favorite P&S camera is my Canon Sure Shot WPT - the water proof European version. It has a huge viewfinder (similar to an SLR in size), and you can control the flash, so it has a lot going for it even though it looks a bit like a toy to my eyes. Anyway, I'll look forward to seeing, what you come up with.
I started photographing in the late 80'th and ended up with a Nikon F90 and a Contax T2 before I switched to digital. Still have them together with an old Minox GT and the Yashica T4. The T4 was a gift to my parents and I saved it from the garbage when they switched to digital. I think, the GT, T4 and T2 are pretty nice landmarks of the analog point&shoot age. The T4 came with a fantastic prime lens at a time where most point&shoots had ridiculous bad zoom lenses. The T4 and the T2 where praised for the good lenses and among the few cameras that could be used to take slides that be mixed with slides from SLRs.
Hi there, a quirky Canon sure shot is the Canon zoom xl/autoboy in other countries. It boasts the same lens quality's as fd mount lenses. I have one and I have to say....its not far off for a point and shoot.
I enjoy the challenge of trying to get quality shots from P&S cameras - discovering their limitations and optimising their better features - even trying to use filters. I include so-called "disposable" cameras amongst them. There was a great period of film camera miniaturisation in the late 80s/90s (eg Konica A4). Key factor is probably, as always, the lens quality. Looking forward to more of this series.
P&S's are fun and easy (when they work!). I have a lot of different ones. I'm always looking for ones that create a "look" and not super sharp cameras. This was a nice review and I'm looking forward to more.
My 2 favourites are the Olympus Af1 infinity weatherproof camera with the wonderfully sharp Zuiko 35mm f2.8 and the Ricoh Mirai 105. The latter being very versatile and has extremely quirky looks. That Canon you have sounds like a crow croaking when it fires and winds on.
I liked your photo compositions, the walking statues and doorway with the painted color blocks were the two that stood out for me as favorites. I have never caught on to digital photography, being a 35mm purist, I have mostly shunned the digital format because it is so easily altered. Digital or “digitography” as I call it I’d something I could never fully adopt. Thanks for your channel and am a new subscriber. Cheers!
Great idea for series. I have a Prego 140 if your interested, free. I'll need to check it, worked the last time I used it. The lens renders rather nicely.
*Good video:* I like the way we don't get to see the photos until after the film has been developed. The ratings all look fair to me. The choice of film stock also seems ideal for this type of camera. It gives great results when the exposure is correct, but as we can see from the video, unless the scene is evenly illuminated, the camera tends to underexpose.
Never really got on well with those little point and shoot things - however, I loved the Olympus DC-35 I had on loan back in the day, the lens was razor sharp and it fitted into my pocket so well I carried it everywhere I went. Maybe I should go search eBay!
@@AzrielKnight Kinda, only it doesn't have that nasty looking light-cell ring around the lens like the Trip does. Looking on the bay, they're going for silly money at the moment! One for over 200 GBP although 150 is about average. That's more than I paid for my Nikon FE a month or so ago!
@@AzrielKnight Olympus AF-1 Twin, Olympus ∞ ACCURA ZOOM 105, SAMSUNG SLIM ZOOM 145S, SAMSUNG SLIM ZOOM 125 PANORAMA, PRAKTICA 400AFD. And I don’t know if this one qualifies as a point and shoot but here it is: the Olympus Pen EE-2.
Hey I have one of these! I like it a lot, apart from the auto focus that sounds like a pressure drill😄 Totally agree that the Mju II is overpriced, but the Yashica T4 really is in a completely different league. Might still be overpriced, but nowhere near as much as the Mju II imo.
Rad concept! Do you consider shutter sound in the appearance category? Minor point but the shutter on this sounds terrible to my ear (completely subjective, of course). I find I dislike most Canon shutter sounds, including the AE-1. I have a lovely mint AE-1 sitting on a shelf in front of me that always get left behind (in favor of an objectively lower quality K1000) because the AE-1's shutter sounds so...weak?
Hey! Yes the shutter sound plays a role for me but only if it's super loud and draws attention, and while I agree it didn't sound so great, it was, in public, very quiet. I took a few shots with my wife walking with me and she didn't hear it.
@@AzrielKnight I think you did clarify that, and I agree. I wouldn't pay the going rate for one, but definitely a thrift find, which I have found myself for about 3$. I still haven't used it :)
Suggestion: We had one guy on our forum rave about the Canon Sure Shot 115u II ( global.canon/en/c-museum/product/film250.html ), one of canons last 35mm P&S models, so that might be a good future episode. 3:00 True, i've tried the Mju-I and Mju-II which i got for £10 each back when they were still considered junk, shot a couple rolls, wasn't impressed, and gave them away. I've shot many P&S and i learned quick i hate slow hunting auto focus and noisy advance motors that aren't discreet or fast, so my favourite is the Olympus XA3, decent enough lens, quiet, meters well, slide it open and it's good to go right away, simple zone focus, no noisy motors.
I own a Yashica T4 myself and I won't say its worth its crazy asking price but in terms of point and shoots it certainly produces very nice images. I paid a lowly UK£2.50 from the Samaritans charity shop in full working condition. No doubt I'll cash in on its popularity at some point but at least I've now experienced what all the fuss this camera receives.😛
Hi, loved this video, excellent idea you had, to pick this cameras and look properly on their work. Although I prefer to use my other cameras, I really enjoy a lot shooting with my Leica Z2X, great image quality and metering as, with my Agfa Optima Sensor 1035, each time I shoot a new film, I became surprised with the very good results I get. Thank you for this and becoming series videos.
The much cheaper Yashica T3 (compared to the T4) has a top level finder as well, one of the things I liked about, along with a flash override. But the focus was just okay and the vaunted Zeiss lens, while pretty good, didn’t justify the price. Would love to see the Canon Multi Tele on this series. I think a few years later than this one, with a half-frame option. Also love the Canon Z155, which has a personal mode to save setting(like flash off and center point AF). Can’t wait for more episodes!!
The stylus are waaaaaay overpriced I got them and sold them. I couldn’t justify having a camera that could break any moment and not selling it for a profit, besides the lens are just Ok.
Point and shoots, ignored by everyone for years, 'Before Digital' covers quite a lot of them but the main attraction is that he's so charmingly English. I've a box full of different one's I've picked up over the years. The problem with them is that they were made out of such cheap components/materials that they glitch easily and as sealed units you can't get inside yourself to do a bodge of a repair. They were made to just get carried in a bag everywhere you went. They're great whilst they last though. Can't say I'd be prepared to pay more than £20 Sterling for one, certainly not the silly money a few are selling for. I've fallen in love with Kodak Gold, unfortunately its become really difficult to get online in the UK (that goes for film in general). Possibly Covid lockdown lag or post-Brexit importation problems. Certain items are starting to disappear off the shelves of all the stores over here from beef meatballs in a tin to bitter lemon in a bottle. What is civilisation coming to ? 🤷♂️
@@AzrielKnight You may be charming, but I don't know many MacDougal's that claim to be English. The guy from 'Before Digital' is most definitely English ..... and charming. Although he taught photography at college level his vlog is really camera based, his photography is, well ..... incidental may be a polite way of putting things; I don't think he's ever claimed to be artistic.
Thanks for the shout-out and glad to hear you're enjoying the print! :D
I had this camera called the Sure Shot Ace in the UK, I bought mine in 1989. I liked the waist level finder, remote control and ergonomics. Some of these cemras would under expose by a lot others would expose correctly. These cameras attracted interest for thier ergonomic styling, If I remember correctly they were styled by Colani who did the Canon T90.
Interesting! Thanks for the info.
Great idea with a P&S series. I have more than a handful myself including a Minolta Riva Zoom 105i (with auto zoom), that I got a while ago because it was so-called "old new stock" mint in box and still in plastic wrappings inside the box. I plan to test shoot it during my summer vacation time in August.
My favorite P&S camera is my Canon Sure Shot WPT - the water proof European version. It has a huge viewfinder (similar to an SLR in size), and you can control the flash, so it has a lot going for it even though it looks a bit like a toy to my eyes.
Anyway, I'll look forward to seeing, what you come up with.
Thanks for sharing!
I started photographing in the late 80'th and ended up with a Nikon F90 and a Contax T2 before I switched to digital. Still have them together with an old Minox GT and the Yashica T4. The T4 was a gift to my parents and I saved it from the garbage when they switched to digital.
I think, the GT, T4 and T2 are pretty nice landmarks of the analog point&shoot age.
The T4 came with a fantastic prime lens at a time where most point&shoots had ridiculous bad zoom lenses. The T4 and the T2 where praised for the good lenses and among the few cameras that could be used to take slides that be mixed with slides from SLRs.
Hi there, a quirky Canon sure shot is the Canon zoom xl/autoboy in other countries. It boasts the same lens quality's as fd mount lenses. I have one and I have to say....its not far off for a point and shoot.
Thanks James. I haven't sold it yet, maybe I'll hold onto it a bit longer....I feel like the FD comparison is a bit of a stretch though :)
I enjoy the challenge of trying to get quality shots from P&S cameras - discovering their limitations and optimising their better features - even trying to use filters. I include so-called "disposable" cameras amongst them. There was a great period of film camera miniaturisation in the late 80s/90s (eg Konica A4). Key factor is probably, as always, the lens quality. Looking forward to more of this series.
Thank you for this! I'm on a hunt for waist level viewfinder p&s cameras this is helpful.
P&S's are fun and easy (when they work!). I have a lot of different ones. I'm always looking for ones that create a "look" and not super sharp cameras. This was a nice review and I'm looking forward to more.
Now the Knight effect will happen to P&S cameras too haha 😂 loved the video and am now looking for one of these as I too like waist level finders
There's a Knight effect? uhoh :)
My 2 favourites are the Olympus Af1 infinity weatherproof camera with the wonderfully sharp Zuiko 35mm f2.8 and the Ricoh Mirai 105.
The latter being very versatile and has extremely quirky looks.
That Canon you have sounds like a crow croaking when it fires and winds on.
I liked your photo compositions, the walking statues and doorway with the painted color blocks were the two that stood out for me as favorites. I have never caught on to digital photography, being a 35mm purist, I have mostly shunned the digital format because it is so easily altered. Digital or “digitography” as I call it I’d something I could never fully adopt. Thanks for your channel and am a new subscriber. Cheers!
Great idea for series. I have a Prego 140 if your interested, free. I'll need to check it, worked the last time I used it. The lens renders rather nicely.
Sure! Thanks man :)
The best cheap P&S I’ve come across so far is the Ricoh FF-3 AF. Manual ISO selection and ability to tell the flash to get lost.
Will of course keep my eyes peeled.
I like my stylus, but it's my only P&S in 35mm. And congrats for the print of the godfather himself.
The video where he made that image is amazing.
The lens on my Pentax PC35AF is a beast! The T4 could go in some other suckers cart.
I have that! The PC35AF. Will be reviewing it!
*Good video:* I like the way we don't get to see the photos until after the film has been developed. The ratings all look fair to me. The choice of film stock also seems ideal for this type of camera. It gives great results when the exposure is correct, but as we can see from the video, unless the scene is evenly illuminated, the camera tends to underexpose.
Thanks :)
Cool review. This camera looked intriguing but non standard batteries are a turn off, and I'll never buy a camera without flash control.
Always been a fan! Your New Concept sounds amazing look forward to lots of pointers
Thanks David :)
Never really got on well with those little point and shoot things - however, I loved the Olympus DC-35 I had on loan back in the day, the lens was razor sharp and it fitted into my pocket so well I carried it everywhere I went. Maybe I should go search eBay!
Looks like a trip 35!
@@AzrielKnight Kinda, only it doesn't have that nasty looking light-cell ring around the lens like the Trip does. Looking on the bay, they're going for silly money at the moment! One for over 200 GBP although 150 is about average. That's more than I paid for my Nikon FE a month or so ago!
I love this, thank you for focusing your atention to this poor litle point and shoot's 🙂
I have couple of them and I love them.
Thanks :) Which ones?
@@AzrielKnight Olympus AF-1 Twin, Olympus ∞ ACCURA ZOOM 105, SAMSUNG SLIM ZOOM 145S, SAMSUNG SLIM ZOOM 125 PANORAMA, PRAKTICA 400AFD.
And I don’t know if this one qualifies as a point and shoot but here it is: the Olympus Pen EE-2.
Hey I have one of these! I like it a lot, apart from the auto focus that sounds like a pressure drill😄
Totally agree that the Mju II is overpriced, but the Yashica T4 really is in a completely different league. Might still be overpriced, but nowhere near as much as the Mju II imo.
lol, pressure drill.
Love my sure shot ace! Picked it up for $3 at the flea market two weeks ago and can't put it down
It's nifty for sure :)
Rad concept!
Do you consider shutter sound in the appearance category? Minor point but the shutter on this sounds terrible to my ear (completely subjective, of course). I find I dislike most Canon shutter sounds, including the AE-1. I have a lovely mint AE-1 sitting on a shelf in front of me that always get left behind (in favor of an objectively lower quality K1000) because the AE-1's shutter sounds so...weak?
Hey! Yes the shutter sound plays a role for me but only if it's super loud and draws attention, and while I agree it didn't sound so great, it was, in public, very quiet. I took a few shots with my wife walking with me and she didn't hear it.
My Dad's Olympus Stylus took some nice photos I thought! Most of the ones from my childhood..
I think your Dad took the nice photos :) I should have clarified I meant garbage for the price.
@@AzrielKnight I think you did clarify that, and I agree. I wouldn't pay the going rate for one, but definitely a thrift find, which I have found myself for about 3$. I still haven't used it :)
Suggestion: We had one guy on our forum rave about the Canon Sure Shot 115u II ( global.canon/en/c-museum/product/film250.html ), one of canons last 35mm P&S models, so that might be a good future episode.
3:00 True, i've tried the Mju-I and Mju-II which i got for £10 each back when they were still considered junk, shot a couple rolls, wasn't impressed, and gave them away.
I've shot many P&S and i learned quick i hate slow hunting auto focus and noisy advance motors that aren't discreet or fast, so my favourite is the Olympus XA3, decent enough lens, quiet, meters well, slide it open and it's good to go right away, simple zone focus, no noisy motors.
I happen to have a Canon Sure shot 130u ii that I plan to review.
I own a Yashica T4 myself and I won't say its worth its crazy asking price but in terms of point and shoots it certainly produces very nice images. I paid a lowly UK£2.50 from the Samaritans charity shop in full working condition. No doubt I'll cash in on its popularity at some point but at least I've now experienced what all the fuss this camera receives.😛
2.50, lucky you :)
Hi, loved this video, excellent idea you had, to pick this cameras and look properly on their work. Although I prefer to use my other cameras, I really enjoy a lot shooting with my Leica Z2X, great image quality and metering as, with my Agfa Optima Sensor 1035, each time I shoot a new film, I became surprised with the very good results I get. Thank you for this and becoming series videos.
Thanks very much!
Neat new series :) Looking forward to future episodes.
Thanks Miles
The much cheaper Yashica T3 (compared to the T4) has a top level finder as well, one of the things I liked about, along with a flash override. But the focus was just okay and the vaunted Zeiss lens, while pretty good, didn’t justify the price.
Would love to see the Canon Multi Tele on this series. I think a few years later than this one, with a half-frame option. Also love the Canon Z155, which has a personal mode to save setting(like flash off and center point AF).
Can’t wait for more episodes!!
Thanks for the suggestions Rich!
Every time I buy a PNS I open it up to see how it’s works then break it lol. So I just stop and stuck with MF
Perfect series
Thank you
Great review sir 👍📷👍
Thanks Chris :)
Nice, love it. Subbed and liked 👍
Thanks :)
Please review the Fuji klasse S
wow....ummm, not sure I have 2 grand lying around.
@@AzrielKnight I thought you have contacts at secondhand dealers and can loan cameras
Autoboy ftw! 😁
I have an irrational distaste for Kodak Gold.
lol why?
@@AzrielKnight I don’t think it’s a bad emulsion, but I really can’t stand the warm cast in the shots I’ve gotten with it
Do the Olympus Superzoom 300.
I will keep my eyes peeled!
Interesting camera!
Awful shutter sound though!
lol, yep
nice!
Thanks :)
The stylus are waaaaaay overpriced I got them and sold them. I couldn’t justify having a camera that could break any moment and not selling it for a profit, besides the lens are just Ok.
Yeah I was not impressed either.
Point and shoots, ignored by everyone for years, 'Before Digital' covers quite a lot of them but the main attraction is that he's so charmingly English.
I've a box full of different one's I've picked up over the years. The problem with them is that they were made out of such cheap components/materials that they glitch easily and as sealed units you can't get inside yourself to do a bodge of a repair. They were made to just get carried in a bag everywhere you went. They're great whilst they last though. Can't say I'd be prepared to pay more than £20 Sterling for one, certainly not the silly money a few are selling for.
I've fallen in love with Kodak Gold, unfortunately its become really difficult to get online in the UK (that goes for film in general). Possibly Covid lockdown lag or post-Brexit importation problems. Certain items are starting to disappear off the shelves of all the stores over here from beef meatballs in a tin to bitter lemon in a bottle. What is civilisation coming to ? 🤷♂️
wait, I'm English?
@@AzrielKnight You may be charming, but I don't know many MacDougal's that claim to be English. The guy from 'Before Digital' is most definitely English ..... and charming. Although he taught photography at college level his vlog is really camera based, his photography is, well ..... incidental may be a polite way of putting things; I don't think he's ever claimed to be artistic.
10000% mju ii overated 😌 and easy to spoil