My favorite meme in reference to the idea that some men dont date younger women is: "Being a guy is crazy cuz the moment you turn 13, you're competing with grown men for girls your age"
I saw comments on instagram of girls openly bragging about "when I was in high school, I preferred dating the guys that could buy beer!" So many comments were agreeing and doing the "you go girl" thing. I was completely blown away by the fact that no one was calling any of them out on this at that moment. Like holy shit, girls just WANT to be victims now. And yes, they're clearly from the USA because they used the words "high school."
How did you even date her in the first place? I've seen older people, both men and women, hesitate or not like the idea of dating someone a year or few years younger than them, so I'm wondering how your relationship happened with a 15-year gap.
@@corncobbob2326When I was 21 I briefly dated a 38 year old. We were coworkers and I helped train her at the job but we just had good chemistry. I was super busy with school and work, so it didn’t last but she was probably one of the best partners I’ve ever had, even if it was only a short time.
@lancevance2005 They always say "x is an exception to the rule" and you're just a prime example of that. Good on you. Too bad that there are not decent men like you either.
Calling the act of waiting for a teenager to turn 18 before getting with them "spawn camping" and "pre-ordering" is absolutely WILD, but pretty accurate lol. Also, c'mon Savii... Benjamin Franklin was never President.
@@savisenpaii tbf, I don't think it's too uncommon for people to assume he became president at some point. Probably because he's like the second most famous founding father after George Washington, and he's on the $100 bill. So I think it's a pretty understandable mistake to make. Oh, and fun fact, in Assassin's Creed 3, at one point in the game it's actually possible to have a conversation with Benjamin Franklin where he talks to you about the appeal of older women lol.
I'll explain the actual origin of hagmaxxing in Vtubing. It has to do with japanese beauty norms. Early vtuber are young girls, small stature, high pitch voice. As vtubers spread over the pandemic, older looking vtubers gained traction. The space became more accepting of lower voices, taller stature, older looking vtubers. Eventually, it formed a "niche", a sub-section of the community who preferred more mature models with older people behind them. These are the original hagmaxxers. Hag is the english translation of the word the japanese use for a single older woman as they tend to be stigmatized.
The Maxing part however, comes from dnd and rpg games. When you create a character you have a certain amount of stat points meaning you cannot have a high stat everything. Therefor you might aim to Min-Max stats eg agility, strength, intelligence. But some people just play an all rounder character. Thus applied to real life may mean that you Maxxing out (aiming to) Gym/muscle (stat) as GymMaxing, or GameMaxing (Charm Stat). Therefor HagMaxing is just aiming to get hags.
@@minitntman1236 Not really, maxxing part came from blackpill dating community, the first one's to use maxxing to denote when you try to maximise something, say looksmaxxing... But then the non blackpilled people got a hold of those words and here we are.
22:35 What's up with girls suddenly having an OF and other spicy socials on their 18th birthday? You know they didn't just decide to do it that day. They were minors while they were planning it.
@@nobafan7515 I think it's fairly safe to say they're not making the decision alone. 1:1 for every person starting an OF the day of their 18th there has to be someone responsible for introducing them to it.
think about it this way: go to college, get 1000s of debt for something that wont even guarantee a job, or get some shitty job that barely pays rent OR start making lots of money right away by simply taking pictures of yourself OF is the ultimate female privilege, to get paid simply for _existing_ , and girls are choosing that than go through the grind of work and college
first time watching. first Vtuber that actually made me REALLY listen, cause the voice stood out to me. not like a sort of "i love your voice", but it's 'comfy' i guess? really nice to listen to. Also, i like your avatar way more than others. It's the hands/arms. that really adds a lot more expression to it, and i love seeing that bit of character, gesticulation is always something i love to see in people. I'm subscribing to you now, and consider this to be, *we will be watching your career with great interest.*
I've been "hagmaxing" since before it was cool. I'm in my early 20s, and my girl is 10 years older. Been together almost 4 years. I think the reason is because ladies in their early 20s nowadays are to toxic, so young dudes are going after the more mature ladies.
@@savisenpaii Exactly. And the 10 year age gap problem you mentioned in the video isn't too big of an issue for us, since she acts younger than she is, and I act older than most people my age. To the point some people think I'm a male cougar, until they find out our ages.
Yeah because we dudes are not stupid enough to sabotage the happy relationship of each other. We just have better things to do so, it is not a matter of hypocrisy, it's a matter of one sided stupidity. I will choose to literally die before I become the very thing I criticise in women. I won't be able to face myself in a mirror if I did that.
That just means horni. I swear, people forget that "the hot teacher" and "friend's mom" were 2 of the most popular fantasies teen boys used to have. They were hormonal and wanted big tattas, it wasn't that deep.
I mean, being horni is lierally an evolution trait. It's a motivator for the young men to try and amass resources to get fem. It's literally nature taking its course.
If it helps you get laid and pass on your genes while other laid back guys who are not horn dogs fail to make a move, then I would actually consider it an evolved attitude. (Although yes, it is just being a young man)
I don't have any particularly strong emotions towards this. But if for example, I knew an older lady and she starts talking to me like: "Oh look at my young man over here" or "Oh, what a sweet boy you are", she would remind me of my grandma and I'm not really into that.
I feel you. Every time I hear a new word, I'm like; "Wtf is that? What does it mean?" And its like a new word every year or two. Back in the late 90s to the late 2000s, it would be rare to hear something new. I'm in my late 20s and I'm starting to be as confused as my folks. 😅🤣🤣
Young men are looking to be the pampered trophies of older, more established women, as if they were young brides. It makes sense as the social incentives are there. Go get your piece of her alimony income dudes!
12:00 that's the power of make up Savii. Also, I have a slew of compliments for you: 1. You have a very nice voice. 2. You are so chill, its refreshing compared to some of the more hyperactive streamers (especially vtubers) 3. Your model is really cool and expressive 4. I am old too (early thirties) and you constantly remind me of that 5. I like that you talk about the ads in the content you're reviewing
I don't like the word hag, or mommy issues, men, keyword MEN can enjoy older women without any creepy fetish attached and without wanting to start a family for no reason.
I can admit it comes from deep seated issues. Long story short, not so great household/childhood and the aunties/older sister types were some of the only people warm or encouraging to me and that left an impression on me. The elderly woman that fostered me was kinder than my own mother and the aunties were positive role models for me and offered wisdom/compassion. Vtubers remind me of that somewhat now that I'm near 30.
Yep I can atest to that my mom was more and more distant as a grew older so to compensate to that my mind likes older women. I don't blame her or anything but I think it was too sudden for my mind.
Huh. Well damn, you popped up in my recommends and I got to say, you have a very expressive and well put together model, especially the face and the hands! Subbed! (also liking the voice!) Nice to meet you Savii!
54:52 Microplastics are microscopic bits of plastic that haven't fully broken down yet, and because of that they're everywhere. There's even been a meme about "Microplastics are stored in the balls", because scientists are finding Microplastics everywhere, including our junk.
Okay I legit have a question, though; as a 32 year old man. How in the FUCK is 30s considered a 'hag' age? You haven't even lived half of your life in the late 20s/early 30s.
It comes from the vtuber community in 4chan, as a meme that caught on eventually. Vtubers are greatly derived from the idol industry, where girls have a short vareer, starting very young (at like 13-16) and retiring really young too (usually between 26-28). So a 30-year old idol is a "hag" for the idol world/community. This has changed recently, but it was like this until a few years ago. Then, enter Marine, from hololive. If you've watched anything from her, you already know, but Marine's main gag is that she's basically "the old hag of hololive", even if she's not even the oldest member irl. But the way she talks, acts and her hobbies, topics of conversation, etc, all help paint that image, that she very much embraced and plays along. That's when the term really took off in 4chan in regards to her, and eventually breached containment and reached the overall Vtuber community, and later just the overall internet space.
It comes from Japan and there 30 yo woman is already old. Now for here we can just state that 30 is when woman is starting to be old therefore hag or milf, or in other words it's when they hit the wall. Still I've known some late 20s woman that looked like 50 or 60 so take care of yourselves ladies don't do substance abuse.
30-35 is when most of the reproductive organs start showing serious signs of degradation and when female skin starts aging more rapidly. For men, the more obvious effects are delayed a few years (women mature more quickly when young and older). People just took that reality and memed it from "old" to "hag".
Loved this react. There've been a lot of vtubers reacting to her for a hot minute now. If you want more interesting statistics to discuss, I recommend her video "The Male Loneliness Epidemic." If you want a considerable amount of laughs, look up "Are Women Okay?" Both are equally great and fantastic at what they aim to be. Also, as an individual in his 30s now (unfortunately) who has exclusively dated much younger women just due to social circumstances, I can completely and totally understand you on your previous relationships with large age gaps being hellish. While I'm sadly too old now to "hagmax" due to not being Gen Z, I do love that older women are getting more attention and appreciation than before.
@@savisenpaii fo’ shizzle I like to remind my fellow millennials that our slang is just as bonkers as the next generation, like how the previous had shit like “cooleo” and “squares”
That makes no sense. Especially if they are underage, the hags would be the predators, here At least if it was old men and young girls, it'd be seen that way
so i just stumbled upon this in my recommended and I am distracted by how animated you are and the massive mom/teacher vibes i get from the way you gesture while talking
58:37 i started noticing that after i hit my thirties too. No matter how attractive someone was, if i ultimately felt the girl was dumb i couldn't stay interested longer than a couple days.
Like certain user in 4 chan said "stop looking at me with that face and worrying about not having children, I will give you an entire army when I marry you, you cute hag" Yes, it's an actual quote 😂
dont know how i got here but i was entertained. hagmaxxing.. i gotta say as a terminally online 40 year old i feel like a dinosaur who surpassed his expiry date xD nice model btw 🙂 and thanks for the video
This was probably already answered, but the [thing]maxxing comes from looksmaxxing, which is afaik a subculture about looking as good as possible given your genetics. It has a lot of overlap with incel culture and stuff, and as a suffix it's used mostly ironically out of incel circles
At 36:00, it’s the older woman that dated a 16-19 year old not the other way around. Also Benjamin Franklin wasn’t a president, just a governor and man of influence back then.
I just discovered Savii with this video and ngl a brief watch turned into a 1 hour venture where I got more and more interested. Bros, is this what becoming a hagmaxxer feels like?
I'm not sure why this is the first video I was recommended for your channel... I'm not *THAT* old, yet. But I'm enjoying your content thus far! Thank you for your service to the armed forces!
As soon as you said G-Shock watches and you were active duty, instant sub. I still have mine or at least the original model I bought back on base. I haven't broken the habbit still mainly because I can't have my phone with me everywhere and something that is "dumb" in tech for moving about in secure areas. Also because clumsy and I will scuff the shit out of it lol.
dating older women is just easier, less bs, less mind games, less drama and also tends to be less online. dating someone older ive never had to download more messaging apps or stress about not responding to something quick enough, and just other annoying things and the worst ive had was a drunken rant about an ex husband. it can be a struggle to keep up financially and with life with someone who is already more establashed but thats still beats the cons of dating my own age bracket, but they also mostly expect that dating someone younger. (of the 2 older women ive dated/dating, our age gaps were 6 years and current is 8 year. so not a massive age gap like)
sometimes i feel that being older or mature just defines where you are on the "ive seen shit enough to not panic all the time" scale ladder. people who were homeless early in life might become more mature, earlier. for example
Well thing is Savi, I'm 38 but never been married myself. Been single for a long time and this hagmaxxing thing is....I dunno. It's odd I don't mind being single though. And I don't go for women older than me. I'll always say that being single isn't so bad Also Savi, we're not old, we're experienced! :3
My 31 gf isn't even exactly "financially stable", we just get along really well, and honestly every woman that I've dated that was close to my age ended up going pretty sour, mature women seen a lot more chill to me and no we aren't just trying to go for a quickie, we've been dating for over a year at this point, we do live like a state apart at the moment but we are making it work
OH MY LORD!! HOW? is the motion capture on that model SO SMOOTH!? like holy shit it capture EVERYTHING the hands, the mouth, the eyes and body soooo smooth. definitely the smoothes motion capture I've ever seen. edit: almost forgot to mention when I see you from the side angle you look like your blowing air out of your mouth tbh EX: 3:20
"Usually a girl in her late 20s or early 30s." As a guy that's about to turn 26, thanks for making me feel old. I'm talking to a girl who's like 28 maybe 29 and never once did the thought of her being "old" cross my mind until now. Here I was thinking "wow, we're actually close in age." So either my standards are slipping or I'm old too.
I mean it's all perspective right? A 29 year old is not old, that's a young woman. But to a 20 year old man, I mean, do you remember how you felt about 29 when you were 20? As far as I've been seeing though, hagmaxing is more men under 25 with women over 35. Basically relationships between gen z and older millennials
My best and healthiest relationship so far has been with a considerably older partner as well. I was 21 and she was 32, it was just such a good vibe, no unnecessary drama, or playing stupid mind games, plain simple conservative relationship. We sadly split up 6 months prior to me writing this comment due to complications on my part, but I still remember my time with her to be the best chapter of my life so far, and we still have contact to this day as good friends
I was usually the younger one by about 5 years, only ever the older one by 1 year. That's honestly within my age group now, but it was apparently "weird" to other people that I was dating a 27 year old woman at 20. While I realize that this is not quite the same thing, everyone around me (at the time) basically acted like it was. Also, your voice is beautiful, as I'm sure you have been repeatedly told, but I was genuinely impressed with how expressive your avatar is. And also how cute she is. lol
I think hmmm...I would find it quite strange to have women in that age group dating guys barely out of highschool. What exactly is a 20 year old able to offer a 27 year old? The 27 year old women I know are so insanely mature compared to a guy that was 19 the year before and is still learning things like basic hygiene and cooking skills. But to each their own.
You seem to be implying that she was immature because she was interested in me, and that I must have been immature because I was young. I find your entire view point strange, honestly (I would hope people have basic hygiene figured out much earlier than 19). I wasn't interested in anyone around me while I was still in school. I couldn't connect with anyone. Nobody wanted to talk to anyone outside their little group. I didn't date until 20. What I was able to offer her was: I worked, helped pay the bills, helped take care of her 6 year old daughter, and wasn't out trying to party with the bros (I didn't have those kinds of friends, anyway).
Honestly my friends act like I'm Hagmaxxing when I date a girl who is only 7 years older than me. I would be a Hagmaxxer, but I've decided to give up on such a quest in recent years
23:00 I had a girlfriend who was 19 when I was 28. I never felt so old in my whole life. I felt like her father always giving her life advice and shaking my head about her bad decision making (including me).
The term "Hag" nowadays refers to anime....as in all anime women who hit 30 years old are always called hags by younger women for some reason. 15:43 Yeah...yeah that was me at 16. To be fair it was around the time "Stacey's Mom" and "Stifler's Mom" were popular. If you know you know. You are completely correct on this however. Kids gotta grow the fuck up and live life first XD
Can I just say that I hate how the term "body count" now applies to how many people you've slept with instead of murder? I don't want to know who changed the analogy but imagine someone who doesn't know the difference and hears that on a first date 💀 Also your voice is the most comforting thing I've heard all week.
Now? I've only ever known 'body count' to refer to how many people a woman specifically has slept with. Society is obsessed with women's purity...it's cute that you've been so innocent! Also she does have a great voice.
omg i love your voice
Savii getting noticed
Ikr
Bro watches vtubers?
@@Shoe0nHead Savii has been seen
Shoe, do the react of the vtubers plz. We need that comfy sloppa.
She's married guys, we are too late.
Just because there's a goalie doesn't mean I can't score
@@schizophreniagaming1187 Oh my.
@@schizophreniagaming1187
Bro really out here posting his lack of morals on main.
Do not pass Skibidi, go directly to Ohio.
@@schizophreniagaming1187Bro, you're offside atp
WHY, GOD DAMN IT
My favorite meme in reference to the idea that some men dont date younger women is: "Being a guy is crazy cuz the moment you turn 13, you're competing with grown men for girls your age"
Indeed and teachers have been proving this meme accurate
I saw comments on instagram of girls openly bragging about "when I was in high school, I preferred dating the guys that could buy beer!" So many comments were agreeing and doing the "you go girl" thing. I was completely blown away by the fact that no one was calling any of them out on this at that moment. Like holy shit, girls just WANT to be victims now.
And yes, they're clearly from the USA because they used the words "high school."
@@urphakeandgey6308 ???
I'm Australian, and I use the words "high school" too.
@@urphakeandgey6308 all this really means is your morals are outside of what is culturally acceptable😅
@@urphakeandgey6308 im from canada we have highschool????
At the age of 23 I dated a woman who was 38. Very relaxing, we just hung out at her apartment watched movies ate her cooking and "cuddled"
How did you even date her in the first place? I've seen older people, both men and women, hesitate or not like the idea of dating someone a year or few years younger than them, so I'm wondering how your relationship happened with a 15-year gap.
@@corncobbob2326When I was 21 I briefly dated a 38 year old. We were coworkers and I helped train her at the job but we just had good chemistry. I was super busy with school and work, so it didn’t last but she was probably one of the best partners I’ve ever had, even if it was only a short time.
@lancevance2005 They always say "x is an exception to the rule" and you're just a prime example of that. Good on you. Too bad that there are not decent men like you either.
bro that sounds so nice, no drama just chilling, ah things could be so easy
bro won
Fun fact: that hagmaxxing dude you get grossed out with invented the modern mail system.
Calling the act of waiting for a teenager to turn 18 before getting with them "spawn camping" and "pre-ordering" is absolutely WILD, but pretty accurate lol.
Also, c'mon Savii... Benjamin Franklin was never President.
Chat said it haha and IDK I am dumb 🤣🤣
@@savisenpaii tbf, I don't think it's too uncommon for people to assume he became president at some point. Probably because he's like the second most famous founding father after George Washington, and he's on the $100 bill. So I think it's a pretty understandable mistake to make.
Oh, and fun fact, in Assassin's Creed 3, at one point in the game it's actually possible to have a conversation with Benjamin Franklin where he talks to you about the appeal of older women lol.
Some people would call that grooming
@@JacktheStripper-tc5pn Different. Grooming suggests actual interaction, spawn camping is just that - waiting.
@@burningsinner1132 Yeah, stalking like a predator 😉
Older Woman: ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) "Hey how you doing?"
South park police officers: Niceeee
Good , next question
"I'm doing good, how about you?"
Kid: - Hey how You're doing?
Hag: - Hey how ya doin'
Sorry ya can′t get through
Why don't you leave your name and your number
And I'll get back to you
Savii best Hag.
😊😊😊😊
SaviiMaxxing 👍
I'll explain the actual origin of hagmaxxing in Vtubing. It has to do with japanese beauty norms. Early vtuber are young girls, small stature, high pitch voice. As vtubers spread over the pandemic, older looking vtubers gained traction. The space became more accepting of lower voices, taller stature, older looking vtubers. Eventually, it formed a "niche", a sub-section of the community who preferred more mature models with older people behind them. These are the original hagmaxxers. Hag is the english translation of the word the japanese use for a single older woman as they tend to be stigmatized.
A certain 17 year old season 3 pirate helped
The Maxing part however, comes from dnd and rpg games.
When you create a character you have a certain amount of stat points meaning you cannot have a high stat everything.
Therefor you might aim to Min-Max stats eg agility, strength, intelligence. But some people just play an all rounder character.
Thus applied to real life may mean that you Maxxing out (aiming to) Gym/muscle (stat) as GymMaxing, or GameMaxing (Charm Stat).
Therefor HagMaxing is just aiming to get hags.
If you'll pardon me quoting the Old Scripture, we must "Refire the embers of her dying star" :P
@@minitntman1236 Not really, maxxing part came from blackpill dating community, the first one's to use maxxing to denote when you try to maximise something, say looksmaxxing...
But then the non blackpilled people got a hold of those words and here we are.
I attribute it mainly to Marine
Oh my god her voice. I'm in danger
Lmao fr right?
22:35 What's up with girls suddenly having an OF and other spicy socials on their 18th birthday? You know they didn't just decide to do it that day. They were minors while they were planning it.
I think they saw the older culture failing them and decided to adapt. Can't say I approve of their choices.
The sexual revolution and it’s consequences have been a disaster for the human race
@@nobafan7515can’t really blame them either. I mean, it’d be stupid to not get the free money laying around
@@nobafan7515 I think it's fairly safe to say they're not making the decision alone.
1:1 for every person starting an OF the day of their 18th there has to be someone responsible for introducing them to it.
think about it this way: go to college, get 1000s of debt for something that wont even guarantee a job, or get some shitty job that barely pays rent
OR
start making lots of money right away by simply taking pictures of yourself
OF is the ultimate female privilege, to get paid simply for _existing_ , and girls are choosing that than go through the grind of work and college
Fun fact: Benjamin's preference for older women was also in Assassin's Creed 3
Absolutely based
Ah yea. I forgot.
first time watching. first Vtuber that actually made me REALLY listen, cause the voice stood out to me. not like a sort of "i love your voice", but it's 'comfy' i guess? really nice to listen to.
Also, i like your avatar way more than others. It's the hands/arms. that really adds a lot more expression to it, and i love seeing that bit of character, gesticulation is always something i love to see in people.
I'm subscribing to you now, and consider this to be, *we will be watching your career with great interest.*
Awwww thank you stuff like this means alot to me
I've been "hagmaxing" since before it was cool. I'm in my early 20s, and my girl is 10 years older. Been together almost 4 years.
I think the reason is because ladies in their early 20s nowadays are to toxic, so young dudes are going after the more mature ladies.
Its less hassle and alot more time to enjoy life with someone with less stress so I totally understand
@@savisenpaii Exactly.
And the 10 year age gap problem you mentioned in the video isn't too big of an issue for us, since she acts younger than she is, and I act older than most people my age. To the point some people think I'm a male cougar, until they find out our ages.
Plenty of millennial women are just as toxic, just ignore the toxic ones
4 years... 10 year age gap... 20 years old...
AYO WTF-
edit:
oh you said early 20's. _I'm not taking it back though_
@@FirstName_LqstName I was a couple months from turning 19 when we started dating. We started talking when I was 17 though.
ex-military, 30 year old, short haired Vtuber watching a video on 'Hagmaxxing', she's just like Outis from Limbus Company for real
"Rules for thee none for me" when young man older woman dynamic. And nobody aggressively call them out, just when it's old man young woman dynamic
Yeah because we dudes are not stupid enough to sabotage the happy relationship of each other. We just have better things to do so, it is not a matter of hypocrisy, it's a matter of one sided stupidity.
I will choose to literally die before I become the very thing I criticise in women. I won't be able to face myself in a mirror if I did that.
>hagmaxxing
>20 years old
Savii has a LOT of people here including me who would want Savii to be their hag queen.
Same. And I'm 30.
I am a certified HAGMAXXER
Based
That just means horni.
I swear, people forget that "the hot teacher" and "friend's mom" were 2 of the most popular fantasies teen boys used to have.
They were hormonal and wanted big tattas, it wasn't that deep.
@@denkerbosu3551 ' 👎 '
@@denkerbosu3551 but if you did it at that age was wrong and SA, you were too young. here we are speaking of 18+ guys
Medea is a good hag, indeed.
Psyop means psychological operations
26:49 Being a horndog isn't an "evolved attitude." That's just being a young man.
I mean, being horni is lierally an evolution trait. It's a motivator for the young men to try and amass resources to get fem.
It's literally nature taking its course.
If it helps you get laid and pass on your genes while other laid back guys who are not horn dogs fail to make a move, then I would actually consider it an evolved attitude. (Although yes, it is just being a young man)
Not having OF is already a big win
I don't have any particularly strong emotions towards this. But if for example, I knew an older lady and she starts talking to me like: "Oh look at my young man over here" or "Oh, what a sweet boy you are", she would remind me of my grandma and I'm not really into that.
Everybody my age reminds me of my grandparents. I'm old. :(
Thumbnail: that truely is the ideal "hag", shame its so very rare nowadays. Ill consider myself lucky if a gal had just two of those qualities
We'll be lucky enough if she has
qualities:
1: Left eyeball
2: Right eyeball
Nearly perfect, except she would have to be about a decade older to match the age requirement.
I feel you. Every time I hear a new word, I'm like; "Wtf is that? What does it mean?" And its like a new word every year or two. Back in the late 90s to the late 2000s, it would be rare to hear something new. I'm in my late 20s and I'm starting to be as confused as my folks. 😅🤣🤣
i was married once, i still have a 3 inch scar on my right arm to remember my last christmas being married to my exwife by
Lol. She hit you with a large spoon or lardal!?😊
Young men are looking to be the pampered trophies of older, more established women, as if they were young brides. It makes sense as the social incentives are there. Go get your piece of her alimony income dudes!
society didn't bat an eye (welp, maybe they did a bit) when girls did it, so why can't us guys??
No. Get free pie and eat it too!!!
@@dannylo5875exactly a lot of cream pies
@@dannylo5875but what if I bake the better pie?
Now we get to be the women now. 😆
11:59 Shoe0nHead is currently 34.
You dont say she looks like she is in her mid 20's
@@savisenpaii good genes + taking care of herself + makeup
@@goleogthais My brain is cheese, I was kinda expecting a + ratio at the end lmao
@@UBvtuber That's the real skibidi toilet ohio brainrot, lmfao.
I just want someone who'd love me and accept me
ah, i too am Delusionmaxxing
Impossible...
She's old so what she is saying is she's the perfect option for hagmaxxing
12:00 that's the power of make up Savii.
Also, I have a slew of compliments for you:
1. You have a very nice voice.
2. You are so chill, its refreshing compared to some of the more hyperactive streamers (especially vtubers)
3. Your model is really cool and expressive
4. I am old too (early thirties) and you constantly remind me of that
5. I like that you talk about the ads in the content you're reviewing
Thank you so much!
zoomers: "i'm 25, i'm such an old hag DDD:"
I don't like the word hag, or mommy issues, men, keyword MEN can enjoy older women without any creepy fetish attached and without wanting to start a family for no reason.
I can admit it comes from deep seated issues. Long story short, not so great household/childhood and the aunties/older sister types were some of the only people warm or encouraging to me and that left an impression on me. The elderly woman that fostered me was kinder than my own mother and the aunties were positive role models for me and offered wisdom/compassion. Vtubers remind me of that somewhat now that I'm near 30.
Yep I can atest to that my mom was more and more distant as a grew older so to compensate to that my mind likes older women. I don't blame her or anything but I think it was too sudden for my mind.
@@tio_john I can understand that feeling a little
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Huh. Well damn, you popped up in my recommends and I got to say, you have a very expressive and well put together model, especially the face and the hands! Subbed! (also liking the voice!) Nice to meet you Savii!
54:52 Microplastics are microscopic bits of plastic that haven't fully broken down yet, and because of that they're everywhere. There's even been a meme about "Microplastics are stored in the balls", because scientists are finding Microplastics everywhere, including our junk.
Okay I legit have a question, though; as a 32 year old man. How in the FUCK is 30s considered a 'hag' age? You haven't even lived half of your life in the late 20s/early 30s.
Not sure seems to be what the internet thinks I feel ive been around the block thats for sure
It comes from the vtuber community in 4chan, as a meme that caught on eventually.
Vtubers are greatly derived from the idol industry, where girls have a short vareer, starting very young (at like 13-16) and retiring really young too (usually between 26-28). So a 30-year old idol is a "hag" for the idol world/community. This has changed recently, but it was like this until a few years ago.
Then, enter Marine, from hololive. If you've watched anything from her, you already know, but Marine's main gag is that she's basically "the old hag of hololive", even if she's not even the oldest member irl. But the way she talks, acts and her hobbies, topics of conversation, etc, all help paint that image, that she very much embraced and plays along. That's when the term really took off in 4chan in regards to her, and eventually breached containment and reached the overall Vtuber community, and later just the overall internet space.
It comes from Japan and there 30 yo woman is already old. Now for here we can just state that 30 is when woman is starting to be old therefore hag or milf, or in other words it's when they hit the wall. Still I've known some late 20s woman that looked like 50 or 60 so take care of yourselves ladies don't do substance abuse.
it's because people don't even expect to live to 40 anymore.
30-35 is when most of the reproductive organs start showing serious signs of degradation and when female skin starts aging more rapidly. For men, the more obvious effects are delayed a few years (women mature more quickly when young and older).
People just took that reality and memed it from "old" to "hag".
It's honestly just about emotional maturity for me and if she's older than me then rules as written says she should be more mature then me too.
Its been a while since ive caught a stream, but holy shit the 3d model is so good. Like the hand tracking adds so much its insane.
that tracking is high quality damn
Thank you!
Loved this react. There've been a lot of vtubers reacting to her for a hot minute now. If you want more interesting statistics to discuss, I recommend her video "The Male Loneliness Epidemic." If you want a considerable amount of laughs, look up "Are Women Okay?" Both are equally great and fantastic at what they aim to be.
Also, as an individual in his 30s now (unfortunately) who has exclusively dated much younger women just due to social circumstances, I can completely and totally understand you on your previous relationships with large age gaps being hellish. While I'm sadly too old now to "hagmax" due to not being Gen Z, I do love that older women are getting more attention and appreciation than before.
Kids these days have slang that’s not very cash money, home slice, word.
Ohhh god I remember all these words and died a bit inside
@@savisenpaii fo’ shizzle
I like to remind my fellow millennials that our slang is just as bonkers as the next generation, like how the previous had shit like “cooleo” and “squares”
owned ,Pwnt,rekted ones that come to my mind
I love that 4Chan still has a massive impact on meme culture.
Course it does lmao, I mean it literally invented meme culture no matter if people accept it or not 😂
i subscribed also i love your vtuber model and voice, also i have a watch its a gold timex watch thats coded to miltary time and i like cats too
So happy to have you
Savii is the ideal hagmaxx frfr
see... this is why I like older women. lot of wisdom, high quality yapping.
First video I've seen of you, your voice is very soothing/relaxing.
Hag (affectionate).
Most likely those young kids going to be called "predators".
That makes no sense.
Especially if they are underage, the hags would be the predators, here
At least if it was old men and young girls, it'd be seen that way
*I swear, western women never cease to baffle me.*
i swear i seen your comment on like 5 different channels i watched lol
@@Nanohamage that’s because they never cease to baffle me.
@@MelRetro THE BAFFLING
i've seen you on a couple of v-tubers video comment senctions
@@JayTohab it never ceases
I’m 22 and I don’t even know wtf is going on with todays Language and dating situation lol
so i just stumbled upon this in my recommended and I am distracted by how animated you are and the massive mom/teacher vibes i get from the way you gesture while talking
Me, 24, hearing savii say that 24 is the prime age for cougar hunting: "okay fine I'll redownload tinder and set the age to 28-37"
Can confirm it's ideal. Old enough for older women to actually consider you and for you to also look like a fully grown adult man. Under 24 is icky.
Savii the ideal hag fr (respectfully)
(Its her voice when she gets all bubbly 😊)
edit: (and her small laugh)
I was laughing from the start but the second i heard we shared February as a bday month, i hit subscribe asap, love your energy!
I like how animated you are, and you're great at banter!
Been slowly binging through the backlog, good voice to have in the background while I draw! Well informed to boot.
Dating? In this year? In this climate? In this economy? Localized entirely within the internet?
Hypergamy has done great damage to everyone, everywhere, forever
58:37 i started noticing that after i hit my thirties too. No matter how attractive someone was, if i ultimately felt the girl was dumb i couldn't stay interested longer than a couple days.
We all love hags! Hags are in demand. Especially because of a certain red pirate captain xD
Like certain user in 4 chan said "stop looking at me with that face and worrying about not having children, I will give you an entire army when I marry you, you cute hag"
Yes, it's an actual quote 😂
What a glorious first video, peak thumbnail, sweet voice, liked and subscribed!
dont know how i got here but i was entertained. hagmaxxing.. i gotta say as a terminally online 40 year old i feel like a dinosaur who surpassed his expiry date xD nice model btw 🙂 and thanks for the video
Happy you liked it trying to get a bit better each day
first video i watch of you and i'm actually surpriced how fluent you are with words much better than the average vtuber, consider me subscribed.
Saviimaxxing right now
i just discovered this channel their voice scratches my brain like the frequency of the vocie glad i found this
This was probably already answered, but the [thing]maxxing comes from looksmaxxing, which is afaik a subculture about looking as good as possible given your genetics. It has a lot of overlap with incel culture and stuff, and as a suffix it's used mostly ironically out of incel circles
At 36:00, it’s the older woman that dated a 16-19 year old not the other way around. Also Benjamin Franklin wasn’t a president, just a governor and man of influence back then.
I just discovered Savii with this video and ngl a brief watch turned into a 1 hour venture where I got more and more interested. Bros, is this what becoming a hagmaxxer feels like?
Yo, really good commentary, ive listened while doing uni stuff. Honestly its the first vtuber ive enjoyed the content and its more chill content
as a fellow "hagmaxxer" even though tbh its just about women being mature assertive and well off I loved this video
I'm not sure why this is the first video I was recommended for your channel... I'm not *THAT* old, yet. But I'm enjoying your content thus far! Thank you for your service to the armed forces!
As soon as you said G-Shock watches and you were active duty, instant sub. I still have mine or at least the original model I bought back on base. I haven't broken the habbit still mainly because I can't have my phone with me everywhere and something that is "dumb" in tech for moving about in secure areas. Also because clumsy and I will scuff the shit out of it lol.
dating older women is just easier, less bs, less mind games, less drama and also tends to be less online.
dating someone older ive never had to download more messaging apps or stress about not responding to something quick enough, and just other annoying things and the worst ive had was a drunken rant about an ex husband.
it can be a struggle to keep up financially and with life with someone who is already more establashed but thats still beats the cons of dating my own age bracket, but they also mostly expect that dating someone younger. (of the 2 older women ive dated/dating, our age gaps were 6 years and current is 8 year. so not a massive age gap like)
sometimes i feel that being older or mature just defines where you are on the "ive seen shit enough to not panic all the time" scale ladder. people who were homeless early in life might become more mature, earlier. for example
"Spawn-camping girls" got me to subscribe lmao
omg your avatar tracking is really great
Well thing is Savi, I'm 38 but never been married myself. Been single for a long time and this hagmaxxing thing is....I dunno. It's odd I don't mind being single though. And I don't go for women older than me. I'll always say that being single isn't so bad
Also Savi, we're not old, we're experienced! :3
What a great voice! Smooth commentary too.
Thank you so much means alot to me
Love how it's 'doesn't dye hair blue or purple'. Means green is still an option 😂
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My 31 gf isn't even exactly "financially stable", we just get along really well, and honestly every woman that I've dated that was close to my age ended up going pretty sour, mature women seen a lot more chill to me
and no we aren't just trying to go for a quickie, we've been dating for over a year at this point, we do live like a state apart at the moment but we are making it work
OH MY LORD!! HOW? is the motion capture on that model SO SMOOTH!? like holy shit it capture EVERYTHING the hands, the mouth, the eyes and body soooo smooth. definitely the smoothes motion capture I've ever seen.
edit: almost forgot to mention when I see you from the side angle you look like your blowing air out of your mouth tbh
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Calling people in their 30s hags is insane to me that was meant for 60+
You sure are talking a lot for a Hag in Maxxing distance.
"Usually a girl in her late 20s or early 30s."
As a guy that's about to turn 26, thanks for making me feel old. I'm talking to a girl who's like 28 maybe 29 and never once did the thought of her being "old" cross my mind until now. Here I was thinking "wow, we're actually close in age." So either my standards are slipping or I'm old too.
I mean it's all perspective right? A 29 year old is not old, that's a young woman. But to a 20 year old man, I mean, do you remember how you felt about 29 when you were 20? As far as I've been seeing though, hagmaxing is more men under 25 with women over 35. Basically relationships between gen z and older millennials
I think sometimes us older people don't care as much because we've already desensitized ourselves to the pain of a broken relationship
S tier voice right there
I hagmaxxed when I was 22/23 and haven't looked back. Every girl I've dated that was under 25 was a disaster
I love your voice, it's so smooth and sultry. Ara ara.
Thank you!
@savisenpaii yo senpai noticed me!
My best and healthiest relationship so far has been with a considerably older partner as well. I was 21 and she was 32, it was just such a good vibe, no unnecessary drama, or playing stupid mind games, plain simple conservative relationship. We sadly split up 6 months prior to me writing this comment due to complications on my part, but I still remember my time with her to be the best chapter of my life so far, and we still have contact to this day as good friends
I was usually the younger one by about 5 years, only ever the older one by 1 year. That's honestly within my age group now, but it was apparently "weird" to other people that I was dating a 27 year old woman at 20. While I realize that this is not quite the same thing, everyone around me (at the time) basically acted like it was.
Also, your voice is beautiful, as I'm sure you have been repeatedly told, but I was genuinely impressed with how expressive your avatar is. And also how cute she is. lol
I think hmmm...I would find it quite strange to have women in that age group dating guys barely out of highschool. What exactly is a 20 year old able to offer a 27 year old? The 27 year old women I know are so insanely mature compared to a guy that was 19 the year before and is still learning things like basic hygiene and cooking skills. But to each their own.
You seem to be implying that she was immature because she was interested in me, and that I must have been immature because I was young. I find your entire view point strange, honestly (I would hope people have basic hygiene figured out much earlier than 19).
I wasn't interested in anyone around me while I was still in school. I couldn't connect with anyone. Nobody wanted to talk to anyone outside their little group. I didn't date until 20.
What I was able to offer her was: I worked, helped pay the bills, helped take care of her 6 year old daughter, and wasn't out trying to party with the bros (I didn't have those kinds of friends, anyway).
savii at 4:41 "is this you chat?"
me: ye-
savii: i dont wanna know, i dont wanna know!
me: oh.
guys, it's abuelamaxxing time
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Honestly my friends act like I'm Hagmaxxing when I date a girl who is only 7 years older than me. I would be a Hagmaxxer, but I've decided to give up on such a quest in recent years
23:00 I had a girlfriend who was 19 when I was 28. I never felt so old in my whole life. I felt like her father always giving her life advice and shaking my head about her bad decision making (including me).
Omg I was in a relationship like that a few years back felt so so old
The term "Hag" nowadays refers to anime....as in all anime women who hit 30 years old are always called hags by younger women for some reason.
15:43 Yeah...yeah that was me at 16. To be fair it was around the time "Stacey's Mom" and "Stifler's Mom" were popular. If you know you know. You are completely correct on this however. Kids gotta grow the fuck up and live life first XD
You're not "old" in that way until you're in your fifties.
This is the BEST hag I've seen in my whole life. GAWDDAYUM HOLY!!!.
Can I just say that I hate how the term "body count" now applies to how many people you've slept with instead of murder? I don't want to know who changed the analogy but imagine someone who doesn't know the difference and hears that on a first date 💀
Also your voice is the most comforting thing I've heard all week.
Now? I've only ever known 'body count' to refer to how many people a woman specifically has slept with. Society is obsessed with women's purity...it's cute that you've been so innocent!
Also she does have a great voice.