there is a variant to this dice game, except it does not use dice, instead the player can choose any peice to move on their turn. apparently, it's quite a popular variant.
me: _casually mentions the very simple, easy to understand game of 5d chess with multiverse time travel._ -probably many know about it by now, but if not, its actually real. Its a game on steam-
You'd think you wouldn't automatically lose in this version under normal Checkmate, since there's the possibility you could roll out of it over consecutive turns. In the example in the video of a checkmate, if the threatened player rolled Pawn, they could take out the Bishop, and if the black player failed to roll Knight next turn, the white player could roll to escape.
The position above counts as "checkmate" in this variant since if you are in check during your turn, you are prohibited from making moves which do not get the King out of check. Moving into the sight of the bishop would still leave the King in check.
@@davidpement So you can't move the king, but as stated above, if you and I were playing this and as white I rolled Pawn I can capture the bishop (yes that keeps the Knight on me, but it breaks the "mate") Also the rest of the rules say to end the game you need to roll a piece that has me in check, so what if you roll Queen/Rook? Since you can't legally move either piece that has me in check, you can't capture me, which means according to the rest of the rules you almost can't mate, even by position (since in normal chess as long as your pieces can legally move, you can move any you have here though to move a piece you either need to roll it, or roll doubles) So let's look at this "mate" Turn starts as board is shown in the (normal game) mate example My turn: Pawn/Rook I use Pawn to take out your bishop Your Turn: Pawn/Bishop Your only remaining Bishop is the dark square one and while it can capture a piece (the Pawn at D2) and put me in check, I can still break a possible mate Since you failed to roll Knight or doubles though, you can't move the Knight to capture me My Turn: Pawn/Pawn My Double roll allows me to move any piece, I move my king one space forward, this takes it out of the Knight's line of fire and on to a light square, so even if you DO roll Bishop again your Bishop can't capture me since it can only move on the squares of the color it started the game on
@@GiggleSharts I know that 5d chess exists but didnt know that Hikaru played it, only say aliensrock (puzzle game yt) played it while i was watching his hexcells series
You can also spice it up by rolling the dice for your next turn. Meaning that you move your chosen piece, then roll for your next move so your opponent sees what options you have when deciding which of their own pieces to move where and vice versa.
With the mechanics of the dice I feel like it would make more sense to cut check/checkmate entirely and just make the only win condition to capture the king
That’d turn stalemate into a win though, since the video doesn’t state stalemate no longer occurs when you cannot move any of your pieces with any rolls you can make
I've seen a version where you keep rolling until you get a legal move, so no turn is skipped. I find it a bit more fair. In the version presented here, it looks a bit too easy to just cause check and make it likely for the opponent to lose turns.
This is similar to a 2 vs 2 variant called handbrain chess, where you are only allowed to move the piece your teammate names, but you can move it anywhere you want.
So if the king is in checkmate you don't have to roll the dice? seems a bit contradictory with the rest of the rules, you'd have to define what checkmate means in this variant, as in, if pieces are able to block or capturde the piece delivering checkmate you don't roll the dice? And if that is unsuccessful, doesn't the opponent have to roll the dice to actually deliver checkmate with the piece?
So I had a cool idea that does make castling a bit harder, but in a way that makes sense. All standard rules of castling must be followed as per usual, alongside this: the roll must end in either one of these two outcomes: You roll BOTH the King AND the Rook at the same time, or you roll doubles, which allows all pieces to be moved during your turn (which includes both the king and the rook). Thought process is below. If you do not roll a rook (or doubles), the rook is unable to move and therefore cannot jump over the king. This means the castle move will be interrupted, which will force the person whose turn it is to cancel the castle move. If you do not roll a king (or doubles), the king will be unable to move and therefore cannot initiate the castle move by moving the two horizontal spaces necessary.
Unless the chess game he is describing uses a unique board (See Puzzle Chess) or a severely different rule set that it comes with its own board (see No Stress Chess) or pieces (I forgot which one but he did a video where pieces could combine and separate) he uses a custom board and custom pieces that he got made for his channel
i think a far better version of dice chess would be to play chess regularly but have each player role a dice when someone wants to capture to see who wins the capture if the attacker rolls higher, the capture goes as usual, if however the defender rolls higher, then the attacking piece gets captured instead
Yeah, if the way your opponent puts you in check is checkmate, no matter what move you’ll do you won’t get out of it. So it is a “special case” where you don’t have to wait for your opponent to capture your king
But it makes no sense since if I get checkmated but my opponent rolls nothing allowing him to capture my king while I get things allowing me to capture all checking pieces within like 2 or 3 turns then I'd be even able to win later if not this checkmate rule.
Interesting that normal checkmate is sufficient, since you could get unlucky with your rolls. Probably for the best that the rules don't steal wins like that.
Pfff, this is like baby. Here is my version of dice chess; First, get a whole bunch of dice, preferably these Dice Chess dice. You'll need 15 per player, and each player's must be in an identifiable colour. Set up the board as normal, except replace all piece except the Kings with one of the dice, turned to the face of the piece it is (so your second row has a set of dice showing pawns, for example). Every dice is considered to be the piece it shows, and moves and acts accordingly, with one addition; after each of your moves, you re-roll the dice that moved, then replace it where it was (unless you moved your king, which obviously doesn't need moving). If you move a piece to your second row, and it becomes a pawn, it does get the option to move two spaces on it's next turn. If you move a piece to your first row and it becomes a rook, it can castle with the king as long as there's space between them and the king hasn't yet moved. Dice that show the king do move as a king, but are not restricted by check, can be captured as with any other piece, and the game doesn't end if that happens captured; only the none-dice king counts for check + mate. If you checkmate your opponents none-dice king, you win. For a slightly more sensible variant, dice are only rerolled upon taking an opponents piece, instead of after every move. For a much less sensible variant, the king is also replaced with a dice, and you lose the game when you have no kings left. Yes, that means that depending on how the dice go, you could wind up with a whole lot of kings. Yes, that means that, if you only have one king, you have a 5/6 chance of immediately losing the game when you move it. You can also combine all this with the "Dice Chess" rules above; when it's your turn, roll two dice, and you can only move dice that match the type shown on the dice you rolled.
there is a variant to this dice game, except it does not use dice, instead the player can choose any peice to move on their turn. apparently, it's quite a popular variant.
Sounds like a cheap knockoff
There's always that one person on the internet who wants to ruin a nice family friendly board game.
That’s just chess
@@luciendelaney8975 no it isn’t
@@luciendelaney8975 r/woosh
Chess updates are getting crazier and more crazier.
They're mostly mods, the vanilla game has stayed the same for a loooong time
@@yogi30051972 no u
Finally, after centuries
me: _casually mentions the very simple, easy to understand game of 5d chess with multiverse time travel._
-probably many know about it by now, but if not, its actually real. Its a game on steam-
@@tornadix99 yes, good game
I just thought of "Rubik's Chess" earlier and just seeing this video makes me think it's certainly possible.
Lol. What? How does it work?
Stop
Don’t give them ideas
I'm curious to hear how this works...
@@MisterBrick42 please do
@@MisterBrick42 hey. It's u again
You'd think you wouldn't automatically lose in this version under normal Checkmate, since there's the possibility you could roll out of it over consecutive turns. In the example in the video of a checkmate, if the threatened player rolled Pawn, they could take out the Bishop, and if the black player failed to roll Knight next turn, the white player could roll to escape.
Yes you got what I was thinking
Yeah I thought something was weird since these variants usually don't let u checkmate
The position above counts as "checkmate" in this variant since if you are in check during your turn, you are prohibited from making moves which do not get the King out of check. Moving into the sight of the bishop would still leave the King in check.
@@davidpement So you can't move the king, but as stated above, if you and I were playing this and as white I rolled Pawn I can capture the bishop (yes that keeps the Knight on me, but it breaks the "mate")
Also the rest of the rules say to end the game you need to roll a piece that has me in check, so what if you roll Queen/Rook? Since you can't legally move either piece that has me in check, you can't capture me, which means according to the rest of the rules you almost can't mate, even by position (since in normal chess as long as your pieces can legally move, you can move any you have here though to move a piece you either need to roll it, or roll doubles) So let's look at this "mate"
Turn starts as board is shown in the (normal game) mate example
My turn: Pawn/Rook
I use Pawn to take out your bishop
Your Turn: Pawn/Bishop
Your only remaining Bishop is the dark square one and while it can capture a piece (the Pawn at D2) and put me in check, I can still break a possible mate
Since you failed to roll Knight or doubles though, you can't move the Knight to capture me
My Turn: Pawn/Pawn
My Double roll allows me to move any piece, I move my king one space forward, this takes it out of the Knight's line of fire and on to a light square, so even if you DO roll Bishop again your Bishop can't capture me since it can only move on the squares of the color it started the game on
@@aryannagariya6027 Same here
0:41 Best chess opening known to man.
It should be called "the gifted king" lmao
There is an actual name for it - the Bongcloud Attack.
@@veto_5762it’s the bongcloud. Mathematically the worst opening in all of chess
Ah yes, white goes for the absolute best : the bongcloud.
Lmfao
Short variation.
The bongclound : e3 variation
Hikaru is proud
Can't wait to see 5D Chess With Multiverse Time Travel
Look up Hikaru playing 5D chess, it is very entertaining.
@@GiggleSharts I know that 5d chess exists but didnt know that Hikaru played it, only say aliensrock (puzzle game yt) played it while i was watching his hexcells series
You can also spice it up by rolling the dice for your next turn. Meaning that you move your chosen piece, then roll for your next move so your opponent sees what options you have when deciding which of their own pieces to move where and vice versa.
0:41 bongcloud intensifies
0:40 he did the bongcloud for the memes
With the mechanics of the dice I feel like it would make more sense to cut check/checkmate entirely and just make the only win condition to capture the king
That’d turn stalemate into a win though, since the video doesn’t state stalemate no longer occurs when you cannot move any of your pieces with any rolls you can make
I feel like dice chess would be better if you could move anything without rolling if you are in check
I've seen a version where you keep rolling until you get a legal move, so no turn is skipped. I find it a bit more fair. In the version presented here, it looks a bit too easy to just cause check and make it likely for the opponent to lose turns.
Or even just move the dice that you rolled,
whaaat no! This is what makes it special! Any check may be your last if lady luck won't blow your dice
@@mithogui yeah, I think this variant is the perfect balance for lady luck and sir strategy
This is similar to a 2 vs 2 variant called handbrain chess, where you are only allowed to move the piece your teammate names, but you can move it anywhere you want.
“Rook” (Rook captures e8)
Thank you for explaining this so well!
0:42 Dice: DO BONGCLOUD
So if the king is in checkmate you don't have to roll the dice? seems a bit contradictory with the rest of the rules, you'd have to define what checkmate means in this variant, as in, if pieces are able to block or capturde the piece delivering checkmate you don't roll the dice? And if that is unsuccessful, doesn't the opponent have to roll the dice to actually deliver checkmate with the piece?
actually, it is said that in some ancient indian variant of chess, you rolled to see which piece you must move
I heard about it too
Where did you buy this 2D chess set? I just want to 2D chess set to play, 3D pieces are not good to carry
Can you skip moving if you don't want to move any of the rolled pieces?
No
Where do I buy this beautiful game?
Check out the link in the description
this kinda reminds me of poker with a mix of luck and strategy, but I don't really know because I haven't played poker
Poker is already mix of luck and strategy
I don't think I like this type of Chess. Because Chess is more of free will but with this mode you need a good chance
Agree
true
1:06 🎵Last Christmas, you rolled a pawn🎵
🎵And the very next turn, you did en passant🎵
Super I like this game your chess rules to I like and I understand
So I had a cool idea that does make castling a bit harder, but in a way that makes sense.
All standard rules of castling must be followed as per usual, alongside this: the roll must end in either one of these two outcomes: You roll BOTH the King AND the Rook at the same time, or you roll doubles, which allows all pieces to be moved during your turn (which includes both the king and the rook). Thought process is below.
If you do not roll a rook (or doubles), the rook is unable to move and therefore cannot jump over the king. This means the castle move will be interrupted, which will force the person whose turn it is to cancel the castle move. If you do not roll a king (or doubles), the king will be unable to move and therefore cannot initiate the castle move by moving the two horizontal spaces necessary.
Since chess is 100% strategy this is a good fun change
At first i thought dice chess would be something dumb but that’s a pretty fun looking idea
There's a version that says you don't have to respond to check and you can just play a move if your dice don't allow you to escape check.
where did you get those flat chess pieces?
I have the same question, I want flat chess pieces too, but too little on Amazon
I actually really like this idea.
How did this guy found these interesting game.
Maybe he's an SCP🤔
I think Samay Raina first came up with it
Hmmmmmmm NotASCPAgent, you sound a bit sussy ngl
What about stalemates and pawn promotions?
Well you have to use en passe right away anyway or not?
Hi, do u mind making a video on Chinese chess? I'll appreciate that.
How about Capablanca Chess?
This makes it possible to beat Magnus Carlsen.
as a dice and chess fan I would like this game
Imagine moving your E pawn, then rolling a rook and a king on the dice…
What chess pieces are you using in this video? I already purchased the dice via your link.
Unless the chess game he is describing uses a unique board (See Puzzle Chess) or a severely different rule set that it comes with its own board (see No Stress Chess) or pieces (I forgot which one but he did a video where pieces could combine and separate) he uses a custom board and custom pieces that he got made for his channel
Does it include dice ?
just what Chess needed. RNG!
This videos are weirdly addictive
Table game companies need to hire you
0:40 He is too strong to be left alive
What about pawn promotion?
0:41 Bongcloud Oppening!
what is an "on psan" move in chess
Goggle en passant
0:42 oh of course you do the bongcloud
It’s works better if you move both pieces you rolled
0:43 THE BONGCLOUD PERSISTS
Looks fun.
Chess DnD edition?
i think a far better version of dice chess would be to play chess regularly but have each player role a dice when someone wants to capture to see who wins the capture
if the attacker rolls higher, the capture goes as usual, if however the defender rolls higher, then the attacking piece gets captured instead
Cool
@@Aykasoyo if you ask me, this kind of chess would add a level of randomness akin to what one finds in wargames and on real battlefields
I like how Bongcloud is just there.
0:41 oh no, not the bongcloud opening
So if your opponent checkmates you you immediately lose?
Isn't that how regular chess goes? I dunno I don't play chess
@@TheFairytail4ever Ye in normal chess if u get checkmated the opponent automatically wins
Yeah, if the way your opponent puts you in check is checkmate, no matter what move you’ll do you won’t get out of it.
So it is a “special case” where you don’t have to wait for your opponent to capture your king
But it makes no sense since if I get checkmated but my opponent rolls nothing allowing him to capture my king while I get things allowing me to capture all checking pieces within like 2 or 3 turns then I'd be even able to win later if not this checkmate rule.
Interesting that normal checkmate is sufficient, since you could get unlucky with your rolls. Probably for the best that the rules don't steal wins like that.
I don't know if you do card games, but if you do, could you do "Guillotine"?
1,000th like!
2nd like to your 1000th 🙂
Can u skip your turn?
Waiting for the Martian Viking Dice chess video
Next up, the Sudoku Chess, all of the rules of it are the same as regular chess, except these ones.
i wanna see a game of this
0:38 Bongcloud time
I chose to learn chess in the 1st place because all other board games seemed to feature dice which I despised.
So you cant stalemate?
HE PLAYED THE BONGCLOUD YES
honestly a lot funnier just to play with 1 dice, had a game that lasted an hour because of bad rolls.
Are you forced to move if you roll with legal moves undesirable pieces?
Yes
Its then Zuguwang like in normal chess. But losing the turn is a bad rule
Ok but this is sick
Suggestion:
How to play secret neighbor party game
Trading pieces is now rng based.
0:41
Why would I want to play chess, but have my options for each move restricted randomly?
Imagine our piece being checked but you and your friend have bad luck so it's just a game of anxiety
Chess with luck can't hurt you, it doesn't exist.
Chess with luck:
very close to the original original game chaturaji
I can't wait for battle royale chess
Dice
Imagine first move you get pawn and second move you get king
Pfff, this is like baby. Here is my version of dice chess;
First, get a whole bunch of dice, preferably these Dice Chess dice. You'll need 15 per player, and each player's must be in an identifiable colour.
Set up the board as normal, except replace all piece except the Kings with one of the dice, turned to the face of the piece it is (so your second row has a set of dice showing pawns, for example). Every dice is considered to be the piece it shows, and moves and acts accordingly, with one addition; after each of your moves, you re-roll the dice that moved, then replace it where it was (unless you moved your king, which obviously doesn't need moving).
If you move a piece to your second row, and it becomes a pawn, it does get the option to move two spaces on it's next turn. If you move a piece to your first row and it becomes a rook, it can castle with the king as long as there's space between them and the king hasn't yet moved. Dice that show the king do move as a king, but are not restricted by check, can be captured as with any other piece, and the game doesn't end if that happens captured; only the none-dice king counts for check + mate. If you checkmate your opponents none-dice king, you win.
For a slightly more sensible variant, dice are only rerolled upon taking an opponents piece, instead of after every move.
For a much less sensible variant, the king is also replaced with a dice, and you lose the game when you have no kings left. Yes, that means that depending on how the dice go, you could wind up with a whole lot of kings. Yes, that means that, if you only have one king, you have a 5/6 chance of immediately losing the game when you move it.
You can also combine all this with the "Dice Chess" rules above; when it's your turn, roll two dice, and you can only move dice that match the type shown on the dice you rolled.
Hello
never knew en passant was a move that exists, time to wreck my sister in chess even faster than before.
So, take away some of the strategy and add some luck to the game?
The more appropriate name for this game should be "casino chess"
But Castling is a King move
Change that rule: if you have no legal move because of the dice, then its like you rolled doubles
So chess but its luck based?
wow, so this is how they did it in medieval times, before the pope said dice games are a form of gambling and they had to trow the dice, pun intended
an alternative way is to play with two 8-sided dice
Imagine ruining a board game that doesnt involve luck
This RNG chess basically
Great, now we have RNG on chess
anybody else talk along with the intro
This sounds just like a challenge Chess Simp did
Idk why I'm watching I don't even have the game
This one seems interesting, extremely luck-based, but interesting
It's just chess without free will.
Im the 5100th likerrrrrr!!!!!