Tales of Symphonia: Zelos' Theme (Serious Arrangement) Extended

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  • @annamarielee3
    @annamarielee3 8 років тому +130

    "I just wanted a fun, easy life. Nothing more. Nothing less." -Zelos

  • @KIJHK
    @KIJHK 10 місяців тому +5

    Hearing this version of his theme really shows how Zelos really feels deep inside his heart.

  • @JdotSweapA
    @JdotSweapA 7 років тому +62

    ''I don't know what to tell ya, I'm just a weak, lazy bum.''
    ''All I want is a fun, easy life.''
    ''That's it.''
    ''Nothing more, nothing less.''

    • @Evilriku13
      @Evilriku13 11 місяців тому +1

      all he wanted was to be accepted for what he is at his heart, a living being, not seen as a scourge of the planet, not seen as the doombringer, not seen as someone who hurts others by just existing, not seen as a pawn to be thrown away when he fulfilled his task.. he wanted a hug, and a place to call home. And for that, he was attracted by his worst enemies but also given the life of a rockstar with all the downsides of being looked as attractive but not as lovable. Without Lloyd, he probably would have thrown himself against a wall and stayed in that mess forever without being appreciated for his own ideals. All because his parents didn't want him per se, all because of Cruxis maddening plan to create a vessel for Martel, a female one on top of that, so Zelos would have been thrown away either way by Yggdrasil in the long run.
      It's because of that that his Flanoir scene is basically livechanging for him, and one of the most crucial and sadly well hidden secrets of the game and backgroundstories. Because that scene has to be the most sought after scene as every other one is presented during the main story, even Kratos', while his is hiding, like he himself does to a degree from others, like he admitted.

  • @Rhy2412TitanGamer
    @Rhy2412TitanGamer 11 років тому +116

    Both Kratos and Zelos are so similar from their tragic pasts. :( Both have had a loved one killed from a half-elf and both had internally conflicted with themselves about doing the right thing.
    Zelos's release were woman, attention, and constant praise . Kratos' release was clinging to Mithos's ideals and letting his son kill him for "punishment." Both characters decided to do the right thing in the end, but I can't help but feel sorry for them :(
    Zelos parents were forced into marrying and paid little attention to him. His father was cheating on Mylene (his wife) with the mistress (thus Seles was born). Zelos's father passed away after that, causing more distress. Seles' mom, wanting a better life for her and her child (due to being a half-elf), decided to attempt to murder Zelos (because his father's title of the "chosen" got passed on to him when he died). Mylene got caught in this cross-fire and before she died she said "You should have never been born." Seles' mom got executed, Seles got put under house arrest for life, and this whole thing scared Zelos. Making him believe it was his fault for not being able to save his mom, and he hated the "chosen' system for forcing this misery on him. He started to loath the "chosen" system and himself. He also though Seles would be a better chosen them him, deepening his already low self-esteem, but since Meltokio has high social demands he had no choice but to bottle it up (which made the problem even worse).
    Kratos was forced to kill his wife because of Kvar ( a human ranch master) turning her into a monster, lost his son (Lloyd), felt like he failed as a father towards his only son for something his couldn't control and is generally scared by the experience causing him to get his morals messed up. Believing that dying would be the proper "punishment" for his sins
    It was very shocking seeing a comic relief character have such a tragic past and I didn't expect Kratos to even be internally hurt. I didn't expect both to be suicidal in the first place for things they could not control. This game really shows realistic reactions to tragic events and how people find ways to "release" their pain.

    • @kotetsuMH3
      @kotetsuMH3 10 років тому +27

      Zelos is my favorite character. All the crap he went through, his own mother's dying words rebuking his birth. He also thought that Seles hated him too. He lived most of his life in anguish and self-loathing. Yet, in the end, he still did the right thing and was loyal to his friends. All most people see is an arrogant pervert, but when I see Zelos, I see a fierce, loyal friend who would give his life for those he loves.

    • @janaguirre4756
      @janaguirre4756 5 років тому +4

      Sometimes happy characters aren't happy which makes them good characters

    • @MrZahsome
      @MrZahsome 5 років тому +10

      Zelos no doubt has one of the deeper backstories along with Kratos. The thing is, we go through every character's story arc in the game except Zelos himself until the very end and it honestly doesn't even go that far into it until Zelos tells us about it in Flanoir. I really wished we could have had Angel Zelos in battle.

    • @8-bitsarda747
      @8-bitsarda747 4 роки тому +7

      and all that leading to Zelos' line during the finale "The people I like, and the people I don't, both deserve to live in the same world as me"
      looking at all the messed up shit that happened to Zelos, it's almost miraculous that he has that mindset at the end

    • @8-bitsarda747
      @8-bitsarda747 4 роки тому +5

      @@MrZahsome honestly, I think withholding Zelos' backstory was done intentionally. Throughout the entire story, despite how well it seems like he gets along with everyone, he never really opens up to the group, except Lloyd, the same way that Sheena, Presea, and Regal do (and while the Sylvarant cast all have some skeletons in their closets, they've still known each their entire lives). And even when Zelos does open up to Lloyd, it's only really done during the scenes that are dependent on affection. He's closed himself off, intentionally, so he can play the role of triple agent without getting emotionally invested, except he does get emotionally invested.

  • @adamclark8994
    @adamclark8994 7 років тому +22

    Tales of Symphonia = best one in the series. The music, the feels...man I miss playing this game.

  • @jonathanbradley4896
    @jonathanbradley4896 2 роки тому +10

    "Why Zelos? You were our friend!"
    "Friend huh? Never could get you to trust me though"
    Ooof

    • @Evilriku13
      @Evilriku13 11 місяців тому +2

      funny enough, that dialogue is part of an erased originally planned storyline were Zelos was ALWAYS meant to die at that point UNLESS you have his highest affinity to him. But because Kratos' storyline was implemented, Zelos only temporarly betrays you and thus his "originally planned out dying" was pushed towards the Kratos route, thus to some degree "Kratos saving Zelos" on regular playthrough base.

  • @danielmenard1459
    @danielmenard1459 6 років тому +18

    Friend Huh? I never did get you to trust me though

  • @Rebornblader
    @Rebornblader 2 роки тому +6

    Haven't played this in years, but it's still just as gutting as it was when I first heard it.

  • @tagukami
    @tagukami 10 років тому +16

    Zelos.... I trust you...

    • @ChosenUndead32
      @ChosenUndead32 9 років тому +3

      +tagumonman55 When you do this route where he dies, Lloyd actually says "Zelos, can I really trust you?" Instead. Sad...

    • @tagukami
      @tagukami 9 років тому

      James Oh, I thought he didn't say anything in the Zelos-betrayal route... When I wrote the Comment, I meant that I felt that the entire path Zelos chose pretty much Hinged on Lloyds words... which it kinda does

    • @ChosenUndead32
      @ChosenUndead32 9 років тому +3

      +tagumonman55 Zelos's life wasn't worth Kratos's Flanoir scene and a couple titles though. Damn it Lloyd!

    • @tagukami
      @tagukami 9 років тому

      James Agreed. x< Dammit Lloyd!

    • @ChosenUndead32
      @ChosenUndead32 9 років тому +5

      +tagumonman55 Also, Zelos brings up the fact that Lloyd didn't really trust him the whole time before going all suicidal. It really did hinge on Lloyd's words.

  • @biggsonalexander490
    @biggsonalexander490 5 місяців тому +1

    I feel like the most fitting route is the Kratos route. It gives Kratos his opportunity to redeem himself for his sins.
    I also like the idea of one party member pretending to be your enemy but really be on your side and rhen another being on the enemy side but pretending to be on yours.

  • @AdeptArcanist
    @AdeptArcanist 10 років тому +16

    You know, in my first playthrough, if I'd realized how I would totally taken this route... But now, in later playthroughs, Zelos has just grown on me so much that I can't do it...

    • @Evilriku13
      @Evilriku13 10 років тому

      Well I still don't have Zelos as my fav character (because of the way he is) YET I stopped having an grudge against him. I said I wanted his ending for explaining why he is the way he is, I got it and... well sh*t. Dat boy really has a load to deal with, I kind of knew he is the "running away" type of an human but still :/ Anyway, I kinda symphatize with him,yet, he isn't my favorite character and also I like his fighting style, but just because kratos isn't in my party ^^'

    • @LeonGun8
      @LeonGun8 9 років тому +4

      ***** Yeah, when he mentions being a Chosen isn't exactly roses he isn't kidding. He also has legitimate reasons to hate half-elves personally unlikemost Tethe'allans who do it because they are scared/jealous of how long-lived they are.
      His relationship with his sister is also very complex, though I like the fact that deep down he still wants the best for here even after all she should represent for him.

    • @Evilriku13
      @Evilriku13 9 років тому +1

      LeonGun8
      anf for this reason, I like him, even after his "betrayal" he shows that "his heart isn't truely shit deep down" and that makes him likeable. Too bad that his backgroundstory was never "shown" just told in ToS :(

  • @nightshade850
    @nightshade850 5 років тому +5

    "I side with the strongest"

  • @antoinewilliams290
    @antoinewilliams290 4 роки тому +6

    This song shows how you can't always judge a book by it's cover.

    • @Petronia911
      @Petronia911 4 роки тому +2

      That's most Tales characters in general, but Zelos is king of this style.

    • @antoinewilliams290
      @antoinewilliams290 4 роки тому +1

      @@Petronia911
      Yup

  • @MrWhygodwhy
    @MrWhygodwhy 7 років тому +37

    What's with people assuming this only plays down the Kratos path? This music plays regardless during his betrayal. You don't need to kill him to hear this!

    • @Onigirli
      @Onigirli 2 роки тому +11

      Sure but that's the path where it's most meaningful

  • @ChosenUndead32
    @ChosenUndead32 9 років тому +13

    Anyone else shed a tear to his death?

    • @Mariokemon
      @Mariokemon 9 років тому +8

      +James on my first playthrough, i knew he'd leave the party if i did the Kratos path... i didnt think
      1) id grow to love him
      2) he'd DIE like THIS.
      Zelos mothaf*cking Wilder is my fav character in the game

    • @janaguirre4756
      @janaguirre4756 5 років тому +4

      I got scared that I was about to fight him. This precious, backstabbing, honey magnet needs protection

    • @8-bitsarda747
      @8-bitsarda747 4 роки тому +1

      A tear? how can you only shed ONE tear at that?

  • @alisafreya
    @alisafreya 8 років тому +2

    oh
    i'm crying now

  • @Mariokemon
    @Mariokemon 9 років тому +8

    I side with the strongest

  • @OrbisAetherum
    @OrbisAetherum 2 роки тому +7

    Zelos lives path > Kratos path. Fight me.

  • @jenniferly123
    @jenniferly123 11 років тому +1

    I love you too Zelos :D

  • @kaiserzelos5884
    @kaiserzelos5884 3 роки тому +1

    The Chosen

  • @MrZahsome
    @MrZahsome 10 років тому +47

    The toughest decision of my life was choosing between Kratos and Zelos... like seriously lol.

    • @menglebenglebangle6614
      @menglebenglebangle6614 9 років тому +3

      The canon way is the let Zelos die and have Kratos on your team... But, it is your game so you decide hahaha ;u;

    • @joshualawrence4301
      @joshualawrence4301 9 років тому +1

      Kratos may be cooler but Zelos is more interesting and easy to miss. He's too funny.

    • @LeonGun8
      @LeonGun8 9 років тому +20

      Lol,no. That was a cruel joke from a Namco translator in Abyss. The officially stated canon, backed up by both Tales of Fandom and Talesof Symphonia: Knight of Ratatosk, is that Zelos survived and was tasked by Kratos to save the others while he had some business to take care off.

    • @Erinyes
      @Erinyes 9 років тому +3

      +MrZahsome I worked halfway through the game with Kratos in mind when I suddenly became sympathetic of Zelos and HAD TO SPEND HOURS USING FOOD TO DECREASE AND INCREASE AFFECTION SO I CAN SAVE ZELOS. I didn't know I just had to not choose Kratos for it lmao. But he was my soulmate anyway. BROS.

    • @silvermistrutski4377
      @silvermistrutski4377 7 років тому +3

      Um, I think not considering the the second game he's alive. I also love how apparently the second game hints that the Zelos' ending is the right one even though Colette's is a lot easier to get. Also why is Zelos is harder is max affection with.

  • @CaramellNeko
    @CaramellNeko 9 років тому +20

    I'm still waiting for a Tales character as deep as Zelos. Sadly, it's just not happening.
    Well, can't expect miracles, I guess xD

    • @RobinLeft
      @RobinLeft 9 років тому +3

      +CaramellNeko I think Luke, Asch and Jade in Abyss were all pretty good characters

    • @CaramellNeko
      @CaramellNeko 9 років тому

      A Dandy Guy in Space
      Well, Jade is definitely great. He comes right after Zelos for me.

    • @RobinLeft
      @RobinLeft 9 років тому

      CaramellNeko I just realized something about them. They're both comic relief characters who have much more to do with the game's overall story than other party members. What with Jade being the whole reason Van came up with the idea of replicating the world, and Zelos working as a spy for Cruxis and the Renegades, and being a Chosen.

    • @CaramellNeko
      @CaramellNeko 9 років тому

      A Dandy Guy in Space
      Yeah, they are both very important characters in their respective games, and they can be both funny as well as serious. I really enjoy that about them, just like their general mindsets. And I think it's pretty obvious that even Namco loves those two to bits. Viva Tales Of! is still kinda the best thing that has ever happened lol They couldn't possibly have chosen better characters for it!

    • @RobinLeft
      @RobinLeft 9 років тому

      CaramellNeko Never heard of Viva Tales Of! I'll need to check that out now

  • @KillaCode1
    @KillaCode1  12 років тому +7

    I love the Tales games. Tales of Symphonia is by far my favorite out of any of em. The sequel wasn't that good in my opinion but it was okay for a Wii game. The most recent console Tales game we got over here in the USA was Tales of Graces f, which was pretty cool. Tales of Symphonia was my first Tales game when it first came out and I got hooked on the series since then. :D

    • @TheCuiba
      @TheCuiba 4 роки тому +1

      I know that commentary came really late but i think the same it was my first Tales Of game and it takes me to the Taled Of series and yeah Dawn Of The New World has potential but i think they make it to quick and that the reason why it is much smaller then Tales Of Symphonia. Greetings from germany (and sorry for my bad english skills)

    • @HeyMomonia
      @HeyMomonia 3 роки тому +1

      Tales of symphonia wasn't even my first tales of game but it's still my favorite.
      The characters are so compelling to me it made the whole game that much greater.
      The gameplay is a little bit clunky at times but you still can do interesting stuff especially with kratos and zelos.

  • @Super57S
    @Super57S 9 років тому

    I love this song, and Zelos is my favorite character too :D

  • @antoinewilliams290
    @antoinewilliams290 3 роки тому +5

    Sometimes the funny characters got a lot of serous backstories

  • @siriusblack4025
    @siriusblack4025 11 років тому

    this is one of the most sad songs i have ever heard ....

  • @CY3ERUS
    @CY3ERUS 5 років тому +4

    I don't know what to tell you. I'm just a weak lazy bum.
    All I want is a fun easy life that's it. Nothing more, nothing less

  • @Gensolink
    @Gensolink 11 років тому +1

    this music bring some sad memory from kratos route. Heck the music at Zelos' death is even more heart breaking to hear. was the same for botta's manly sacrifice scene it just pain me to hear those music :(.

  • @ПавелТейхриб
    @ПавелТейхриб Рік тому

    Lightning Blade, Super Lightning Blade, Light Spear Cannon

  • @mugeniro4945
    @mugeniro4945 11 років тому +1

    It's weird seeing these comments now when the HD release for Symphonia has been announced

  • @Celesterra
    @Celesterra 11 років тому +2

    If they made a remake, they'd probably use the new voice actors.
    Then I'd cry again. I was never that attached to the new guys.

  • @siriusblack4025
    @siriusblack4025 11 років тому +13

    Zelos>kratos anyone?

    • @8-bitsarda747
      @8-bitsarda747 4 роки тому +1

      finally, another voice of reason

  • @tpheropro
    @tpheropro Рік тому

    Everyone who loves Tales of Symphonia as i do,should bis this game remastered for Nintendo Switch ❤❤❤
    Its part of my younger days and a true masterpiece ❤❤❤

  • @KillaCode1
    @KillaCode1  11 років тому +7

    By far. Kratos may be more of a badass and stronger than Zelos but that doesn't make him have the charm Zelos has. Zelos is one of the most memorable characters in the Tales universe. I wish they made a Tales of Symphonia remake, just so I could see him again and laugh at how e harasses Sheena. XD

    • @zennitio9569
      @zennitio9569 Рік тому

      Tbh, it's a shame they just copy -> paste the design of Kratos on him. They should have make him more unique in his battle style with signature skills (I could see him using "Bloody rose" ha ha)

  • @bowserjr123456
    @bowserjr123456 11 років тому +3

    You and me both. Alice was my favorite character. Honestly they screwed up in the second game.

  • @jacie1137
    @jacie1137 4 роки тому +4

    This is my first time playing this game , And i just wanna say Fuck this song and Fuck kratos route "Kratos route not Kratos " , Our poor baby Zelos Is Alive Happy And Surrounded by people who cherish him And care for him ,What kind of sick ending is that ,Dying feeling like absolute garbage Thinking that your existence is a mistake And that even your dear sister absolutely hates you , And no one loves you or sees you for who you are And no one trusts you not even the kindest of them all Lloyd, Like who came up with this scenario I just want to talk

    • @Petronia911
      @Petronia911 4 роки тому +4

      It's by far one of the most tragic parts in the series IMO, despite being merely a 2nd option you can take.

    • @milotic3333
      @milotic3333 3 роки тому +3

      His deep backstory is why he's my favorite character in the first game

  • @MrBracchidios
    @MrBracchidios 11 років тому +1

    You can't really blame him when lloyd kept to be suspicious about him. if someone was going O_O over you shoulder would not you be mad?

  • @MrMirko101
    @MrMirko101 11 років тому +1

    i prefer kratos over zelos. but i still like zelos. The problem is, i never choose him cause i just love the scene where this theme is played

    • @8-bitsarda747
      @8-bitsarda747 4 роки тому

      you do know that the theme still plays in the version where he lives, right?

    • @MrMirko101
      @MrMirko101 4 роки тому +1

      @@8-bitsarda747 Learned that by now, still wont change the fact that i will always go for kratos :)

    • @MrMirko101
      @MrMirko101 3 роки тому +1

      @@8-bitsarda747 It is 2021, im 8 years older, and ive just played another playthrough of ToS. Once i again i had to take the Kratos path haha, some things never change

    • @8-bitsarda747
      @8-bitsarda747 3 роки тому +2

      @@MrMirko101 I picked Kratos once, I will never do it again. I can't bring myself to kill my favorite character, and the addition of Zelos to certain scenes, if his affection is highest, is too nice of a touch to not have (specifically talking about outside Altessa's place when Mithos reveals himself, among other things happening). Also the ending just feels wrong without Zelos. He fits into the group better than Kratos, and has this gem of a line before the final battle, "The people I like, and the people I don't, both deserve to live in the same world as me."

  • @bowserjr123456
    @bowserjr123456 11 років тому

    @KillaCode1 Try Dawn of the New World. Zelos is back!!! :DDDD

  • @lesvlogsdegabi1858
    @lesvlogsdegabi1858 6 років тому +1

    Why zelos 😭😭😭

  • @Calenmarwen
    @Calenmarwen 8 років тому +2

    Is the *only* time this is used in the game at the end of the Zelos boss battle?

    • @Onigirli
      @Onigirli 4 роки тому

      I was surprised to find that out, this song came back to memory so easily that I figured it HAD to be used more than once. Maybe I'm conflating it with Regal's theme

    • @ticklemyball
      @ticklemyball 2 роки тому

      @@Onigirli It plays in the Kratos route too. You would've heard it when Zelos "betrays" everyone.

  • @zennitio9569
    @zennitio9569 Рік тому

    For me it should be the canon true ending ! Zelos's death is tragic and it makes sense to replay Kratos in the end... This is what I don't like about this game, you have many branches of possibilities for the story but some are just not as good as others (especialy the flanoir scene ! The scene with Kratos is amazing and it gives more depth to the story of Lloyd's past)

  • @gamerhero9559
    @gamerhero9559 9 років тому

    What's up with Zelos and why he have angel wings?

    • @Erinyes
      @Erinyes 9 років тому

      +Game Guy95 He swallowed a powdered form of Aloinis, the mineral that makes you an angel, when he was younger as a deal with Cruxis to escape being a Chosen.

    • @Xavior86
      @Xavior86 8 років тому +10

      +Erinyes Hm, not to make you look the fool or anything but that's not quite correct.
      Zelos ingesting Aionis is what allows him to use magic (Same as Kratos basically), his wings are simply there because of him activating his Cruxis Crystal (Same as Colette).

  • @ПавелТейхриб
    @ПавелТейхриб Рік тому

    Listening ti this since release

  • @Onigirli
    @Onigirli 4 роки тому

    Zeros-san, I...

  • @raenj1328
    @raenj1328 10 років тому

    KillaCode1 they DID make a remake XD i have it and he harasses BOTH Marta and Sheena along with Alice too it's called Tales of Symphonia Dawn of the new world

    • @kelanmarshwalker734
      @kelanmarshwalker734 10 років тому

      It'ts not really a remake though, more of a sequel...

    • @raenj1328
      @raenj1328 10 років тому

      Kelan Marshwalker yea... Well that's my brain for ya XD

    • @ghis4000
      @ghis4000 10 років тому

      tos 2 suck btw

    • @raenj1328
      @raenj1328 10 років тому +1

      ghis4000 no it doesn't, its just as good as any other of the Tales of series, I have it, I played it, it is amazing!

    • @cofageekus1524
      @cofageekus1524 10 років тому +1

      Hanako Hanasaki Couldn't agree more. A good rpg doesn't need a long play time, it needs a good story and both Symphonias got that.

  • @jfiffl7
    @jfiffl7 2 роки тому +1

    That close to being racist, just for fun.

  • @ganaham9144
    @ganaham9144 7 років тому +3

    Sorry, but no one is better than Kratos

    • @yabeiyabei
      @yabeiyabei 6 років тому +3

      The Zekenator Yes, i know one.
      Zelos

  • @MultiDarklegacy
    @MultiDarklegacy 10 років тому +1

    i always pick kratos and always kill zelos