Roundtable: Amid Tributes to Queen Elizabeth, Deadly Legacy of British Colonialism Cannot Be Ignored
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- Опубліковано 8 вер 2022
- We host a roundtable on the life and legacy of Britain's Queen Elizabeth II, who died Thursday at the age of 96. She was the country's longest-reigning monarch, serving for 70 years and presiding over the end of the British Empire. Her death set off a period of national mourning in the U.K. and has thrown the future of the monarchy into doubt. "The monarchy really has come to represent deep and profound and grave inequality," says Cambridge scholar Priya Gopal, author of "Insurgent Empire: Anticolonial Resistance and British Dissent." We also speak with Harvard historian Maya Jasanoff, Novara Media editor Ash Sarkar and Pedro Welch, former chair of the Barbados Reparations Task Force, who says the British monarchy's brutal record in the Caribbean and other parts of the world must be addressed. "The enslavement of our ancestors has led to a legacy of deprivation, a legacy that still has to be sorted out," says Welch.
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I don't revere the rich, famous, or noble.
I find it strange to get invited to worship a royal and then get told it's perfectly normal.
Nobility is different from aristocracy.
@@Cohagenmods Not sure what you mean by 'respect'. Surely not as in the way you would say the rules of the road. (?) With wall to wall media coverage, almost total genuflection by politicians of all stripes and even my employer (a so-called liberal institution) instructing staff on how to behave, I'd call that worship.
What does it feel like to be this ignorant? Does it hurt at all?🤔
It’s the chip on your shoulder that causes your confusion. We’ve been in a hierarchy since the beginning of history. Some people are better than others.
Jay Cee. It's because Amercans have no real culture or history hence why you are a bit shallow
This is the kind of reporting that should be universal.
Not forgetting all the horror, terror, and genocide is paramount.
The constant refrain from ⚪ people telling us colonized to "be nice" and "be respectful" is infuriating.
If one wants nice and respectful, how about don't do genocide. Maybe try that.
Respecting the Queen for performing that role in a truly incredible way doesn't mean you brush the reality of history under the carpet.
Having lived in Nigeria for two months I can honestly state that I learned more about humanity than the other 50 years among white people in Europe, America, Australia and New Zealand.
I agree. Her passing does draw attention to the institution of monarchy, to the Commonwealth, to the continuing imbalance of power and wealth between the UK and the former colonies, especially when it comes to natural resources and banking. I was glad to hear the City of London mentioned. All these opaque neocolonial operations need to end.
If these peoples are so Right y won’t they seat on tea& coffee ☕️ tables with Putin and stop the Ukraine Genocide/ war zones conflicts
Why are these peoples waited till she die then speak of it ,but not dare to talk it out to her when she alive on the meeting tables
@@ReturnOfTheJ.D. respecting the queen is condoning racism and evil.
@@waynesilva9157 You can admire someone for performing a job very skillfully over 70 years, with unmatched dedication. That doesn't mean you condone racism and evil - just that you recognise the abilities of someone who did that role exceptionally well for a several decades.
The system behind her however, which she upheld, is not something I share the same admiration for. The UK is now assuring the world that the British Empire ended long ago but there are still many countries in the Caribbean and South Pacific that are beholden to that nation, and the colonial histories there won't be looked upon favourably in future years.
I'm glad Ash Sarkar made the comparison with Diana's funeral. It was a thousand times bigger, in people, flowers and genuine mourning.
Yupp..Diana was a different story..She was NOT one of them!!!
Yeah, so glad someone tried to make it a competition. The world has changed a lot since 1997.
Many people, especially children were tortured and murdered by the British colonial forces in Malaya, now Malaysia. We are not demanding the British to kneel down on their knees and apologize to us. Our sole aspiration is for our national treasures such as jewels, gold bars, manuscripts and etc to be returned to us. During British colonial days in Malaya, many local chiefs were executed and their family members were left penniless. We want the British to compensate their descendants in monetary form and the British royal family must acknowledge the past murderous executions.
Just FO
What about the Sultan of Brunei? Where does he come from? Presumably a descendant of Muhmet, and How Islam spread was by colonisation, hacking mofo’s down, and taking their shit. Thats your religion, dude.. Never mind the sultans and Caliphs that came in the wake of it.
No one alive is responsible for anything. Get real.
@@marinam1660 you are if you support a system that has systematic racist features. You’ll claim it doesn’t exist and yet when research is done on the matter we consistently find evidence that race is a significant component in the discrepancy between equal opportunity and equal achievement.
We know bro, they also did not show any mercy to us. India
I find it hilarious that the US has this weird/sick fascination with the royals, especially considering the US's history with the monarchy.
Trust me most Americans are not interested.
Well that's because you don't know the US citizens. Some are interested many aren't.
American media hasn’t represented true Americans for the past decade. Only corporate world.
and the fact that in all the ways that matter, we have exactly the same thing here in the US. Substitute politicians + corporations and you get the same effect
We won.
This is the content we need from media.
Lies and disinformation from a leftist jailbird? I think not get with it NUMB ONE ! 😂😂😂😂
@@RichardTClark396 she was a witch! A evil ass old hag! May she rest in hell.
I agree but am discouraged that no mention was made of the fact that we, in the USA, are more powerful and have done all these things and worse. We continue to.
@@RichardTClark396 You’re so smart 🤡🥰Your ad hominems are superb, keep it 💯 mental midget jailbird. You have convinced me by the force of your argument. Prostrate yourself before Charles now 👍.
@@RichardTClark396
jailbird,really, & ur little laughing emojis, that's all you got.
ur life must be so barren of life.
Yes, exactly. We're still living in a world ruled by the few : power, privilege and wealth =oligarchy.
You forgot the words duty and service to the nation.
@@FHIPrincePeter Yes, I agree: if only that were the case in not only England, but here in the US as well. What a difference it would make.
Untrue. There are opportunities for everybody. It's down to the individual.
@@catkatzi3320 There should be; sadly, it is far from reality.
The way of nature, watch what happens in the wild all over the world.
Thank you for having the courage to say what is not being said.
Lol. It's not about you people. Grow up. 🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧
The Queen had NO power, it's the Government that acts, and it's they, not the Queen, that have brought about this mess we're in here in thw UK.
It takes absolutely no courage whatsoever to be a republican, just don't cry when you're rightfully disliked for it.
Like ' the CIA has the most blood on its hands' american IMPERIALISM!
@@Spindacre I think she meant Republican as part of a Republic, not Republican as in the right wing (maybe I'm wrong, though)
Wonder if Prince Andrew will come up and the insidious Epstein connection.
Good point 👍🏾
The real question is if we will ever explore the relationship between Charles and jimmy saville, another pedophile and will the cash for honours exposure be revisited?
The best coverage of any event is always to be found on Democracy Now. Thank you for your unbiased reporting of the facts.
I agree when I first heard of the Queen's death, I was like I know democracy now about to come with the receipts!! Lol
Agree but remember to also see plenty of other news channels that you dont necessarily agree with, key to understanding and communicating with people of different believes
Not really. I remember how a show called Democracy Now has been a cheerleader for Saddam Hussein, Quaddafi, Chavez, Maduro, and any tyrannical regime that opposes US foreign policy and claims to provide its people with basic services, especially healthcare and education 🙄
More recently they have been apologists for Putin in Ukraine.
This is one of the most biased news outlets I have found.
@@janethunter6653 Yes, but that doesn't mean they are wrong about everything.
Thanks for this, was getting so fed up with the mainstream media here in the UK.
Really needed an outside perspective.
Sure ....but I wouldn't call these perspectives. They are sounding more like opinions. It is up to you to either accept or reject. For me, NEITHER of these "experts" actually put anything into true specific perspective using FACTS. "Information" isn't necessarily FACTS.
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Outside perspective?? Or another bashing from sour grapes! The one thing the yanks are jealous of is funnily enough, the Royal Family! I’ve lived there for over 20 yrs and this blew my mind considering! If you think not, you’ve only got to look at the desperate attempts to replicate it using celebrities who all have a personal agenda.. there’s none of the impartiality and politically centrist (as the RF) aid to those who are marginalised in America from celebrities. The one exception being Gary Sinise, who has done what he can for veterans but it’s not much relatively.
Democracy Now is a garbage , communist, fake greivance channel. Be assured, good Americans love and respect the Queen.
Oh wait, you have the angry little sad fist as a profile picture....lol. You people 🤦♂️😂
I fully agree with Priya Gobal the disconnect between the fortunate circumstances the Royals are in and the fawning of mainstream media not just in Britain but worldwide shows the enormous power of the Royals and many Brits to them and what the subjects will endure this winter if they are in the not so well off bracket.
It’s quite possible as in my own (and everybody I know) case to show respect for the death of the Queen & our monarchy which is completely dissociated from politics in the U.K. and hold views that are closer to communism than conservatism
The very word "subjects" implies subjugation. Monarchies must be dissolved.
Gopal has lived in and benefitted from this country . As she hates it so much she should perhaps consider going to live in India where she was born.
@@giuliakhawaja7929 Same thing I hear here in the U.S., "if you don't like it, move". But being critical in an effort to make positive changes, corrections to something wrong, is essential to making progress. Abandoning the situation, moving to some other place, leaves the bad situation unchanged.
@@healthyself7941 "If you don't like it, move". Where to? Everywhere u go they come & bomb u
THANK YOU! Just because someone dies that doesn't erase the bad things they've done or allowed.
Yes just like hilter
Unless you’ve forgotten your history, much of British colonialism ENDED under her reign. The British Empire no longer
exists. And if you are going to start pointing fingers, name one ruler who would not be on that list.
Just because she looks likes she bakes cookies doesn't negate the inhumane and heinous history she used to establish the wealth of that monarchy... ALLL stolen, return that large crown jewel to south Africa.. That's a action of civility
@@sassy1j102 read about your world politics. Th commonwealth is not the empire
@@sassy1j102 Such an IGNORANT comment !! Do your research first.
Her last statement said it all - leaders of countries should be elected and held accountable by their constituents, not appointed by the mythology of bloodline superiority
QEII was only a figurehead. The British parliament has existed since 1707. She held very little political power. As a matter of fact
the British Empire dissolved under her reign. So this colonialism animosity toward her is moot.
@@jeanghiberti9944 that makes even more sense to abolish it....
The royals don't have any real power. It's just a figurehead. I don't know why people are getting so worked up about it.
@@CW-rx2js
That’s the decision of the citizens of the UK to make. From the look of it, they still want their monarchy before it set them apart from others. You don’t have a point
Are elected officials free from corruption??
Happy to see people who still have a strong voice 'to call a spade a spade' and not be shut up by the powerful and the media. My hats off to the brave ladies on the panel.
NOTHING. About her legacy. Deserve to be glorified.
As a citizen of a former British colony, I am not at all impressed with the ladies on this panel.
M S
A spade is a horticultural excavation implement.
simple propaganda, if you say the opposite you're censored by the media
"The brave ladies on the panel" are regulars on the BBC and backed the powerful mainstream media. Ash is a devout Communist and anti white campaigner. Comparing the death of Princess Diana who was indeed a much loved ex wife of a prince known as "the people's Princess" to the death of the Queen who served for 70 years is a ridiculous comparison. The ancient almost 1200 year old ceremony is obviously a completely different situation and a ridiculous analogy.
I simply find it astonishing that human beings worship other human beings 🇮🇪
Thanks for introducing me to priya and ash’s work. a large part of editorial power is profiling people who spend their lives contributing to the dialogue but are shut out of mainstream corporate media which is enamoured with bells and whistles to generate income through hysteria.
Ash does fantastic work at Novara Media. Check them out on UA-cam!
Truth!
shut out of mainstream? THIER ON UA-cam HELLO!
Two bitter and twisted women who are on Twitter I believe. Not exactly shutout !
What an ignorant comment. It would appear you are just commenting for the sake of commenting .....no different than many other posters.
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She never apologized for the British royals legacy of slavery for over 300 years in Africa and America. She never apologized for the genocide of peoples in America and Australia. She never apologized for the wealth that made the royal family on the backs of exploiting human beings. She never apologized for maintaining an apartheid mindset by dividing people into classes of nobles and commons. Some of most nobles people are simply common and most common people are actually very noble. It was a missed opportunity having served 70 years to address the crimes of the British the last 500 years.
Why should she is it’s nothing to do with her . Did your president for the shut America caused . Don’t think so
@Sandra Leiva
Royals don't do Reality,
donchuknow?
Excellent comment. 👏🏽👏🏽🥂
Really? I never knew she didn't apologize for any of that over the years. No excuses for that at all. Even the Vatican has apologized for some events over the past few decades.
Brilliant comment
The Queen was CROWNED, not coronated. For crying out loud..
:-) Pedant and Grammar Nazi !
but ofcourse, I and all tru Brits agree and sing out with one voice, "God Save The King's English" from colonials, and all mis-speakers
I walked passed the Heals Store on Tottenham Court Road. Its an upmarket design-led home furnishing store in Central London. The windows were part blacked out and a huge digital billboard bore a monochrome image of the late Queen. Sheltering in the colonnade of the huge store, lit by the in memoriam of the Queen were four separate tents that were the only homes of the inhabitants.
What is your point. The Queen did not run the government? Misdirected.
Shocking!
and what did you do about it? Oh yeah, comment on here rather than help.
So did you help those people and invite them back to your house then, or just walk on?
@@danpearce4547 How do you know that? At least he spoke up.
Their colonialism will most definitely be ignored.
That's what British media and education does best
Watch out posers USA are banning books makes Britain look woke af
Under the Queen the vast majority of the Empire has been decolonised and the rest given the chance to leave through a vote learn some bleeding history
snowflake
@@LOSTONITALL u r itch
No, they actually civilized most of the savage world. Their legacies still stand.
I agree with Mr. Andrews. She should not be put on a pedestal. Good coverage Dem Now.
Mr Andrews has made many such statements in the past, attacking UK society, government and culture. He has called, among others, for the abolition of the English national flag and a new British flag. He seems to have an unhealthy obsession with his skin tone, and his perceived slights against it.
Hey let’s compare countries that were colonized vs those that weren’t? Who has it better ?
I’ve just discovered this page through a small interview with George Monbiot , who is one of my heroes. It’s great to see that not all of USA media is the sort of thing we always see in tv and online.
@@Stardustpal25 cheers pal.
Please share this media with others. Cheers mate!
@@savishra I’m always happy to share the good news that we can have sensible, intelligent and thoughtful people commenting in the news!
@@juliewake4585 we actually have none of those but OK lol
Exactly
Some years ago
Some years ago I had a conversation with group of young people from Denmark, Belgium, Holland and Norway, who were touring the US, and we talked about the monarchies in their countries. I asked a question about the Queen to a Danish girl and I meant the Queen of Denmark. She got a puzzled look and asked: "Do you mean 'The Queen' or my Queen?" It seems that 'The Queen' is Elizabeth II, all others must be specified.
Fact, that she replied "My Queen" menas she identify herself to be peasant. Such people will never be free.
@@milangacik-repcik1224 Free to do what exactly?
I always found it amusing when people from other countries ( other than britain ) referred to Elizabeth as " THE queen ", as thought there were/ are no other queens on the planet.
@@milangacik-repcik1224 I mean logically she’ll still be a ‘peasant’ per se since she has a queen in her country. Like how in America the way the states are set up the governors in your states are the king, the mayors are the lords that govern the areas they reside in, the police their army or knights. The way our government is set up is reminiscent to the British empire as America was once merged with them and the people of that time only knew the structure of the British empire. So regardless, if you not part of that then you are a peasant by definition. While the idea of freedom is different for everyone and your idea might not be the same for her.
@@nanorider426 Figure it out yourself...
Thank you Democracy Now, that's why I support you and why your content has a positive impact on my health
"...why I support you and why your content has a positive impact on my health." Word. They get a regular infusion from me. Until I came across this I wondered, "Um, am I the only one looking at this legacy in a fuller context?
Finally a media outlet not afraid to speak some truth.
Her and her family were involved in the theft of trillions and the murder of tens of million, if not hundreds. Not to mention all the slavery/indentured work, in Africa, South Asia, the Carribean, everywhere. It's an absolutely brutal history to read about, and she has always been on the side of keeping that money, reinforcing the predatory post-colonial relationships, and denying the horrible history of her family.
Well I know America is paying a huge price now. Never should the early colonists have enabled the people of Africa to sell THEIR own people into slavery.
this is what im tryna say
Well said!
You know that she was not personally responsible right? You are just petty and salty.
@@brittanyhayes1043 LAUGHING OUT LOUD - what do you mean she was not personally responsible? I bet they say the same thing about their family's penchant for sex with children and then the ritual after the sacrifice where they eat them. You know they are not personally responsible right??? you need to ditch that line girl!!!
Was it her crown that okay'd it and not her?
Enlighten me please.
Very much agree with Prya that we do not live in a fundamentally different world!
Only Russia victorious will change it. Because it will not be againts Ukraine, but againts the world order that has existed not since 1953, but arguably since 1492! Otherwise it may remain so until 2692.
My first thought upon hearing of the Queen's death was that now might be a good time to dismantle the monarchy. There's nothing really special about these people as was once believed when the monarchy began.
Kings and Queens belong to fairy tales ..irrelevant now ..
Yeah, I think the Caribbean realms will start dropping off one by one over the next few years. Probably Australia too. Don't know how strong republican voices in Canada and Aotearoa are but I get the impression that Canada will stick around, possibly until the end.
Oh... I just heard the part about it being against the law to talk about dismantling the monarchy in GB. Wow... these people are truly... something.
@@johnli6430 That is people's culture and heritage, be respectful.
@@darrenscott6982You mean that same culture that systematically looted the resources ( for centuries even!) mercilessly killed enslaved , tried to erase the language, culture and traditions of countries it had invaded and colonized ....how about these countries cultures, were they respected ? . I can give you examples but there are too many to elaborate.. No real apologies up to this day ..that is for you to research .
Soon, the so-called royalty/monarchy will be irrelevant..fit for fairy tale books .
As a human being , I feel bad for the woman's passing, yes, BUT ............
When Diana died the outpouring of grief and the anger towards the Queen and Royal Family who where looking after the young Princes William and Harry just like any Grandma would do , those people shouting for her to come home to Buckingham Palace where in London you didn’t have people from the North West of England, North East, South West , Northern Ireland , Wales and Scotland so one small group of people caused all that heartache because she was looking after the heartbroken Young Princes .
Finally, a balanced and truthful accounting of the monarchy.
Missing indigenous children will always be associated with this monarchy in my mind.
The monarchy was not involved with the missing indiginous children. Holy cow you are really reaching and very salty.
@@brittanyhayes1043 So, before you call me very salty unwittingly, you should investigate. Then call me salty.
There was a tribunal regarding this. I think you are getting your indigenous children stories mixed up. But to be clear, it does not matter to me one way or the other about those people except that there were children involved. I saw the documentary of these adults talking about their experience as a child. You can believe what you want. I am sure you are some white woman some where with "white woman" fantasies but if you'd heard these people speak maybe your fantasies would fade. Probably not though.
So "holy cow", why don't you go and reach and learn something. The documentaries exist. The people spoke. The Tribunal happened. The monarchy cannot be prosecuted, We saw that same precedent with Prince Andrew.
In any case, defend away, you poor deluded girl........
@@brittanyhayes1043 Just one such touching upon that issue was a clip entitled "The Queen & The Kamloops Kidnapping 1964."
There are others. At one time a copy of the court record was posted. It may no longer be in the public space. I have no reason to make things up. The monarchy has a track record that speaks for itself in spite of anything that I could add. They have been the predators that sit aloft. If only that was me being salty, as you say.
@@tyaajathailani Nah I learned enough to know not to be petty about a lady who did NOTHING COLONIST RELATED except here ancestors from three generations before her reign began! You are salty because you are cruelly sluring and mistreating a elderly dead women when you can easly open your heart up and forgive her transgressions and not risk your own soul.
@@tyaajathailani And yes, this is a reach because it was Canada's responsibility. Not the Queen or at least not Queen Victoria or Queen Elizabeth II. It all on Canada.
The women wore stolen jewels on her crown for 70 years without an ounce of shame.
Edit: for all the wonder of 'western civilisation' and 'the enlightenment', the sheer number of people who worship a monarch, yet disregard their victims speaks for itself.
Yes and chances are you are living on land 'stolen' from whoever had it before, who stole it from who had it before them... so where is your shame or are you just a hypocrite? I'm going to guess hypocrite.
True
And you live on stolen land, smarty
Yeah and the founder of BLM lives in a huge mansion that she got off of pocketing money she claimed would go to suffering African Americans without an ounce of shame. So, your point is?
@@MasterLittica Chances are YOU are also living on stolen land. That person had the right to call out Elizabeth's monarchy. Stolen land not stolen by him/her is not the same as active treachery, colonialism, and active stealing from people. There are court records that she and Prince Phiip were charged in the case of many, many missing Indigenous children. Should we also be ashamed that those children went missing having been ushered away by these monarchs, never to be seen again?
Why should the livelihood of Brits be disrupted because an old, old lady died? Her life didn’t get disrupted when hundreds of her peasants died from climate change!
Or went to war
Hundreds?
Dying from climate change? Take your medication.
Her 'peasants'? The UK is not imperial Russia!
Peasants? Have you been watching too many medieval set films?
A fascinating conversation between everyone involved that hits at the core of what we expect from the societies and governments we are born into. Each person has their own perspective and its wonderful to hear them all voiced.
Anti monarchists get arrested for voicing their opinion
We all must end this side of life
It was so sad to hear Clive Myrie from the BBC say the cost of living crises was "insignificant now given the gravity of the situation we seem to be experiencing with Her Majesty". Clive may not care about the millions of elderly people suffering now , but I hope the BBC demand an apology. Clive has attempted to avoid any remorse by stating only, it was "‘a poor choice of word perhaps’".
BBC belongs to the ruling class, so not surprised
Yes! Good on you getting Ash on
The monarchy should be abolished.
Queen and Empire are inherently and fundamentally inseparable due to their profound coexistence.
What does the Elizabeth the second have to do with colonialism? Did she claim some colonies I wasn't aware of?
You're definitely a muppet for this comment
@@EARART Quite original aren't you mister pretty ears?
"Rather than this blood line of superiority ". I love that. 😆
I do not know her but she seems educated, knowledgeable and smart.
Duh she’s a journalist
@@SuburbanPookie if u call her a journalist then we need to change the definition of "journalist" or strip this title to 98% of those who currently hold this title
@@DarElBarka 😂😂
8:53 I’ll mourn the passing of a human being and their human condition, NOT A QUEEN simply for being born into a family that sits atop a mountain of death and pillage.
That queen didn't give up any of the privileges nor wealth that she sat upon when she could have so easily done. Her uncle gave up the throne to marry a divorced American citizen. They still had colonized people at the time of her enthronement. I hope that if there is a hell that she along with the rest of the colonizers and slavers are burning in it.
@@enlighten5457 The Queen, the woman who under her reign decolonised much of the empire and gave the others the right of secession to also leave... did nothing?
In that case are you also going to wish all descendants of the 'African' Slavers to burn it hell for the crimes of their ancestors crimes that are still going on 'right now' in Africa?
@@MasterLittica There was no decolonizing of the economic system in the colonized countries. She and her successor still yield power over their supposed independent colonies though their puppets in those countries
@@MasterLittica ANY person taken part in the transatlantic slave system deserve hell fire I have no respector of person evolved in that barbaric system and their decendants that live good off the wealth from it today.
@@enlighten5457 Then you should well thank the people who almost bankrupt the entire country to put a stop to it then
First of all, I thank you for doing your duty to the society as journalists by presenting an alternate view.
This duty of enabling the populace to see all sides of a situation is essential to grasp the situation fully, for a healthy democracy to function,so an informed view can be formed, which can evolve, in otherwords keep changing, a sign of growth, not holding a view, forever, to show one does not flip flop, as is promoted as a virtue, these days.
One of the deficits of present generation is not learning the history, how these remnants and forces manifest today, making those links and understanding the full picture. The population is readily swallowing the junk given to them, any old story.
As the Indians and other colonies paid for the looting of their countries , paid for the armies that oppressed them, while the slavery went on, their people died in world wars, while their role is not really acknowledged even now fully, unlike the Canada, Australia etc. they jeep harping about, kept them in jails and in poor education, living standards, the present day populations mostly working class, pay for the royals, mostly working class, pay for the ceremonial continuation of this class and their landed gentry, helped by the media, even the ones the citizens pay like BBC.
This is very clever. Just by acknowledging past atrocities and doing nothing, they getaway scot free, as the slaves are very loyal. We thank you my lord.
Their living is paid by the tax payer, the ceremonies paid by the tax payer while the ideological programming to maintain the status quo going on. They just have to present themselves, sit pretty and we are ever so grateful. This is true of all global monachies.
The play is subtle but true. The power does this to the societies all over the world.
It is interesting to do a peice of research to publish the cost of the royals, who are morally no superior to anyone, except they are rich and find put the money they bring to the country by contibuting subtly to tourism.
I feel they can support them anyway, and the people who are obsessed by them will go see their castles anyway, so nothing need doing by paying for them now.
The media can keep the interest going free by few scandles here and there and it will be a cheaper way to get the job done.
Please do the research on behalf of the society.
The parliamentary can govern as they do without the royals.
I'm glad to someone else speak up for the First Nations.
Kathri, yes, what a beautiful world we could have if only First Nations people had been partnered instead of annihilated. Justice is for all and injustice can be seen by all. When it comes to injustices suffered by First Nations, racism is alive and well, make no mistake. Black, white, yellow, pink and brindle all guilty of First Nations racism to this very day, in every country on this once magnificent planet
Such a foool . The old hag had the gin sayings
The British empire was already on its way to disappearing when Elizabeth acceded the throne. When India achieved its independence in 1947 -- five years before Elizabeth became Queen -- that was really the beginning of the end. For her part, Elizabeth became a champion of the emerging, voluntary commonwealth.
Elizabeth is not responsible for the sins of her forebears. She was not born expecting to become Queen. And she wouldn't have been, but for her uncle's recklessness in abdicating the throne. The role was thrust upon her at the age of 25. It wasn't the life she particularly wanted for herself -- by all accounts, she would have been perfectly comfortable as an English country wife, tending to her dogs and horses. Yet, she accepted her fate without a word of complaint, and did her absolute best to fulfill her role as honorably as anyone possibly could.
Nor was it ever within her power to redress the wrongs of her ancestors, constrained as she was by British law that forbade her from even expressing any opinions about political matters. Even much of "her" wealth was really the property of the Crown, as an institution, and was not hers personally, so she wasn't free to simply sell it off and return the money to former colonies.
the exercise of power in US is hardly less opaque. This opacity is how the powerful can do things the people don't want, without losing power. The opacity is the point
Exactly.
US has done the same to Puerto Rico, as well as other region NOT on its Territory that claim itself owner of yet dosnt recive the same respect or care of the main land.
@@ericquiabazza2608 Puerto Rico needs to go their own way. They're nothing but an economic liability and owe us money.
@@ericquiabazza2608 Don't feel special. Citizens of Washington DC who are right there at the capital do not have congressional representation nor do most people in the biggest and most important cities. The whole purpose of our government is to shut out the broad public from the axes of power. And in the US the majority does not even matter in the executive branch election due to the prior unrevised history of minority rule.
...say for example the genocide of the native peoples of North, Central, and South America, all of the various kidnapped enslaved peoples from around the world, and the virtual enslavement of factory and farm laborers around the world on various poor countries too hungry or desperate to walk away from vastly underpaid work in slave like conditions....we learned it all from the European countries, including Britain, from which our American caucasian people emigrated.
@@arielporte4149 Didn't the Egyptians have slaves? Remember a guy called Moses?
Wow! All 4 of these ladies are so amazingly well spoken. That was such a deep & refreshing discussion and exactly what I was looking for as an alternative to all the "worship and adoration" on the other channels. Mourn the Queen (as a human being with faults like we all have) and not the empire is spot on. It isn't balanced to just look at her like she was a saint and like the divide isn't huge like they spoke about. The Queen's subjects should not be in the position they are in where they might die because they cannot afford heat. I just can't play along with the delusional lies anymore and celebrate a system that is supposed to serve the people but is soooo separated from the reality of the average citizen. Bravo to all involved for sharing your wisdom so eloquently!!!
Ash Sarka is on Novara Media. ✊🏼
@@fuckbankers Love that channel!
The US HAS people in tents and health care is non existent . Tend to our own.
People in glass houses shouldn’t throw stones.
And things are about to get worse. All Europe will be freezing this winter while paying sky high energy bills. It's unavoidable. Like the Chinese curse goes "may you live in interesting times"...
Very informative commentary of the Queen's complex legacy.
Normally, I don't watch this show. This, however, was an excellent episode. Thank you, Ms. Goodman, for providing an alternative view to the jaundice-eyed worship of Elizabeth Saxe-Coburg-Gotha offered by the BBC and even Al-Jazeera.
Learn about why they’re called Windsor
Making it about " your people" is , at best, an error in judgement and timing. At worst, your narcissistic, " woke" and as stupid as stereotypes have shown.
"Aasif Azimabadi"
> insulting the Queen for having German ancestry
Lol. Lmao, even.
@@Spindacre Well these royals aren't Windsors. They are frauds who renamed themselves in WWI. They are certainly not ceremonial figureheads or benevolent philanthropists, for that matter. This monarchy is not a benign institution. I would think that the manic worship-west of the last four days is rather laughable, but it's actually somewhat an insulting display of Stockholm syndrome. Insulting upon my ancestors who died in the Sepoy Mutiny of 1857-58 resisting their barbarism.
@@aasifazimabadi786 As of 1917, I'm afraid they are the House of Windsor. The name change was entirely legal. Nothing fraudulent about it. They are also very much in fact benevolent figureheads and philanthropists, who have done much for the people of the Commonwealth.
Evidently you don't know what Stockholm Syndrome is - the British people loved the Queen and even many who have had one reason or another to dislike King Charles will in time come around to accepting him in that role. Whether or not you personally choose to be insulted by displays of loyalty or mourning for the Queen is irrelevant. It was a splendid day in India when the mutiny was crushed.
"Who built Thebes of the 7 gates ?
In the books you will read the names of kings.
Did the kings haul up the lumps of rock ? "
Interesting focus for this "remembrance". As far as I have seen, Democracy Now is the only news program that is focusing on the grievances of British subjects over her rule rather than the queen's accomplishments.
Al Jazeera and other non imperialist outlets are using coverage that doesn’t lionise her.
Name one...
I love how the West's history of destabilizing governments, committing genocide, stealing the land inheritance of those yet unborn and we are to just get over it because it's the past. And where does British tea grow? And where did the Queen get those precious jewels bedazzling her attire. I wasn't aware Britain had those typed of natural resources.
@@adisafalomi112 Can't agree more. And how about militarily forcing China to buy Opium? Then claim moral superiority to govern everybody. Hahaha..
@M W Remind me when apartheid ended?
As you know the age of the Queen you must know she came to the throne and was crowned (not “coronated” no such word) at the time when the former colonies were all becoming independent.
HMTQ valued the Commonwealth and so did many other countries apparently. Several countries have joined which were never part of the British Empire.
One question which is never attempted is - if the BE was so awful why did so many of the people of the newly independent countries want to come and settle in the UK?
Much appreciation for a serious and truthful discussion. We need much more of this!
The only media to show the real view. The real role of the monarchy.
You must not watch WION or African Diaspora News Channel
@@slimpickens01 wion is meh- better than most US media
Sometimes loaded with bs too
monarchy is part of British culture, British is not British without monarchy
@@edba1.037 US culture was slavery- your point is moot
@@GalacticNovaOverlord that was two different kind of things, don't compare everything to US
The very circus surrounding the Queen’s death (which we have the right to mourn whoever wants) shows us that nothing in the western hemisphere has changed really…… it’s alarming and pathetic at once! And thank you Democracy Now for keeping us alert and leaving no topic untouched
@David Linx the say ''more things change, the more they remain the same''. Look at BBC news its a propaganda arm of the UK goverment/royal family. The queens death on tv like 24/7 only pointing the ''good and romantisized'' image of Elizebeth and how she was no wonderful for the common wealth aka the continuing geopolitical and semi-colonial influance sphere of the royal family and uk goverment.
What's even more sad is that the media plasters her death all over social media.
You’re a simpleton
My response when I heard she had died, "ding dong the witch is dead." Of course you're more than welcome to mourn the woman, never forget the blood and grime on that crown.
What blood and grime? You should be able to make a point without hateful comments.
Well said, many heart felt truths spoken
Devourer of worlds.
I love that. Mourn the Queen, not her empire. I'm surprised how strongly this is affecting me as a non-royalist socialist. I guess she transcended the role. But I can't not get behind the reactions of those who suffered at the hands of our glorious empire either. Their anger is just and justified.
She was a wicked old woman .
That doesn’t make it any sense lol. She was part of the continued empire.
WEF is king now.
Enjoy your international socialism, eating crickets and owning nothing.
Peasants and Plebs...
She was simply a symbol and nothing more..🤷🏾♀️
@@queencocoa2278 she had some pull…definitely not all though
Priya Gopal should be on every news channel!!!!!!!
The Commonwealth Nations are there voluntarily and not forced to call her, or King Charles III now, head of state. They are free to call referendums at any time. Her family has undoubtedly profited from colonialism but each generation goes farther than the previous to right those wrongs. There is a segment that thrives on the profitability of anti-racism whilst engaging in largely performative actions. Surely even the poorest Britons are better off than their ancestors and have socialized medicine and housing. HMTQ is getting as large an outpouring of love as Diana, disabusing the notion that she is reviled. The energy crisis is a result of universally approved sanctions placed on Russia, hardly a progressive action and one being promulgated by labor and Tory alike. Traditional liberals are being called traitorous by the New Neocons who now laughably are calling themselves the standard bearers of liberalism. Socialism concentrates power in the hands of the few as well, but typically they are more dangerous than those they overthrow, more ruthless, and life for the proles doesn't improve. History has borne this out.
what has her generation done to right the wrongs?
@@Imbalanxd --- Elizabeth has really championed the emrging commonwealth. Beyond that, there isn't much she can do, restrained as she is by British law that forbids her from weighing in on political matters.
@@markpkessinger she has directly weighed in on numerous political matters and steered outcomes. I don't think you know what is going on.
@@Imbalanxd -- I'll be happy to concede your point if you can cite a single, verifiable example.
@@markpkessinger queens consent. She's used it to alter laws to protect the image of the monarchy.
Wonderful to see Ash on Democracy Now!
I thought she was 'literally a Communist'?
@@lechatel Certainly, that's not incompatible with this channel.
Racist British colonisation has caused nothing but death and suffering for the indigenous New Zealand Maori people starting in 1860's. The devastating affects of land theft, indigenous language and cultural oppression are still being felt today
Cry about it.
@@jdenyer7921 Beast
For better or for worse if the British empire hadn't been there you would still be huddling inside your mud hut in New Zealand instead of having a vehicle to take you comfortably to the cinema, science lecture or swimming pool when it's raining.
How long has NZ been independent now?
@@jdenyer7921 Yes Lizzie wasn't alive in 1860.
Is the indigenous community broadly opposed to the monarchy? Are there strong voices for a republic?
Ash Sakar is smart, brilliant and answers questions I didn’t even knew I had. I wish I could meet her parents and grandparents/ whoever raised her.
Ash is the best political debater in Britain - that's why she's kept secret.
I think it is important to understand it is not the monarchy that has died, but the Queen. Also that this Queen had no influence on the political actions of her government and could not make political statement which means it is her government in name only. Those who speak of the history of the monarchy before her should not speak as if she has lived the same life as Queen as past Queens and Kings who had political influence and are directly responsible for much of the historical atrocities inflicted on other nations. On the contrary, this Queens involvement with the nations past which Queens and Kings and the British government should be criticised for has been a positive one in which work has been done to build a family of peace out of those that were once enemies, and she has succeeded in this despite the continued attempts of the British government to test the patience of these nations and try to find ways to continue the exploitation of these nations. I as a person of African decent am sad at her death and have only positive feelings for her and this feeling is shared by many Africans except maybe those that consider themselves part of a woke culture lead by the West that has nothing to do with African culture and tradition and most Africans want nothing to do with. Unlike Western governments and their attitudes towards Africa, Queen Elizabeth the second has been a positive light and may her soul rest in peace. We will miss her. Peace and love
you cant be black.......
well said.
I would argue that on paper the monarch is merely a figurehead, however the deference shown to them makes me think that behind the scenes they in fact do wield influence. In 1975 the governor general of Australia dismissed an elected government, an unprecedented action. As the Queen's representative, he was meant to consult with the prime minister, however he consulted instead with the Queen and Charles, who apparently ok'd his course of action. The letters exchanged in this period are to this day hidden from the Australian people. The fact that the family were, until relatively recently, exempt from paying taxes etc leads me to think that their influence in protecting the institution ie "The Firm", is very much acted upon by successive British governments.
@@margaretcaine4219 WHAT ABSOLUTE IGNORANCE AND A PACK OF LIES !!! All documents relating to The Dismissal are now in the public domain. Do your research and discover that the Queen rejected the Governor General's assertion that the matter was a constitutional crisis and advised him that the matter was only domestic politics at play. The rest is history as now disclosed documents reveal that the Governor General ignored the Queen's advise and sacked the Whitlam government regardless. So your anger should be directed at only Kerr not the Queen. Having said that, at the snap election called immediately after The Dismissal Whitlam's Labor Party was destroyed and the conservative Liberal Party won by a huge landslide. So democracy won out in the end!
i agree, im no fan of royals, or any elites, but the Queen was a great woman, and the world will be worse without her, but yes she undid much of the injustices of the past, if any contemporary royal was trying to look after the common people, even a little, it appeared to be her to me.
The EFF said the Queen benefited from the wealth that was attained from the exploitation and murder of millions of slaves who were shipped away from the continent to “serve the interests of racist white capital accumulation, at the center of which lies the British royal family”.
“If there is really life and justice after death, may Elizabeth and her ancestors get what they deserve,” said the party.
What about all those Black Lives Matter “activists” being accused of stealing from the very people they pledged to protect?
@@MN-th1gz 26 January 1905, the Cullinan Diamond, weighing 3,106.75 carats (621.35 grams), worth USD2 Billion, was discovered in Kimberley, South Africa. This diamond was taken from us and mounted onto the Queen of England’s Sceptre. We would like our diamond back. It is a natural resource that belongs to South Africa.
Which isn't true. I we were to talk about wealth obtained from that, than all of Europe is guilty. Why would we be talking about the British monarchy when the Belgian monarchy which owned it's own colony and committed brutal atrocities separate from Belgian law still exists!
@@tk-6967 Dah 🙄
@@juniormolefe3046 ?
So nice to see that she’s not over memorialized here. When I saw the picture of her shaking hands with Liz Truss, I thought that she’s not long for this world. I was much more upset when Princess Diana died. And lost all respect for Queen Elizabeth bc of how she handled it. She was forced to make a public announcement. That fact was apparent while she spoke dispassionately about Diana. Diana was too good for that royally heartless family!
Diana wasn't too good, she was dumb and shouldn't have been in the family. The only reason she was in the family was because Charles couldn't marry Camilla, the person who he actually loved, because of some rule about no non-royals in the family.
@Hoosier Baddy I agree with you about her and her forced speech concerning Princess Diana. I believe she was forced. Well if she didn't make no decision just a powerhead she eventually approved of the actions of her country.
@@vanessawilliams2771 Yeah, because she was more concerned about comforting her grandchildren than pandering to the public. How heartless of her to care for Diana's kids, isn't it?
@@vanessawilliams2771 She was the one who forced Charles to marry her.
Yeah, she spoke in that tone because she was probably upset with the public, and rightfully so. Diana did nothing for this country, and she garnered respect for just being pretty. Meanwhile, her kids were living in a broken family, and the death of their mother was even worse. So the public demand that the Queen make a public announcement about the death of an entitled nobody rather than be a grannie to her offspring. How is that right?
Great interview!
"myths of imperial benevolence"...well said. Excellent coverage overall, thank you Democracy Now!
I wish they would have this discussion on any UK news channel, all you see coordinated curated propaganda being pumped out 24/7 with news anchors and commentators tripping over themselves to gush as much praise onto the queen as possible and only air interviews with the public that replicate such gushing praises. The reality of the situation is the colonial imperial Empress that has just died was a glorified puppet of the sate and intrinsically part of the colonial and now predominantly imperial British empire. She never share her private thoughts in interviews and all the public see is a carefully choreographed puppet show, the sycophantic mainstream media then project any qualities and traits on this puppet like she was some saint - she was an Colonial Imperial Empress in all but name and nobody really knows what she actually thought.
Even Putin did same... What an circus...
@@angh18 They had event called London Bridge for this.
Very well said.
All a part of the psychological warfare. It's illusions for the condition of confusion. Not only her identity but Britain itself is a symbol and representative of colonial conquests. Britain is a criminal enterprise and the monarchy are mascots of that enterprise.
💓👸🏼💖PRINCESS DIANA, FOREVER IN OUR HEARTS 💕 THE PEOPLE'S QUEEN 👸🏼 ♥️
Yes indeed
Would have been lovely if Diana had taken over from the Queen. Not sure that Charles is up to the job.
Also, removing the monarch in the UK doesn’t fix the system. The Uk government, especially of late is toxic. Let’s focus on what changes will improve things. I’m sure the monarchy will go through an overdue overhaul but let’s take a breath while we wait for the late Queen to be buried and focus on the things that can be influenced by our attention right now… environment, dogma in science, medicine and politics, human rights etc
yeah lets fix all that AND get rid of the monarchy, there is no good to be had from post-poning the enevitable
I'm in Canada where we are having our own mourning period. I don't know about GB, but here our constitutional monarchy style of government would require constitutional changes that would result in very long and probably acrimonious negotiations.
Removing the monarchy will certainly help. These royals are bad news; Prince Andrew is not just a bad apple, as these apples don't fall far from the tree. Their wealth should be seized, and their palaces can be made museums. Of course, it's not the only thing that ought to be done, but a great example could be set in these other spheres of life. The problem is that King Charles III is the face of the system. He shall be on the postage stamps and the coinage and banknotes of the realm. It's not enough to change the face of the system, but for the very system to be changed, this face will have to go. With half a billion pounds and so much hidden influence, I'm not sure if he's just a figurehead; that seems like system talk to me. We need to have an honest conversation about just how much how power these people have instead of pretending that this is just fun and games.
"Deadly Legacy of British Colonialism Cannot Be Ignored" - But they ignore the thousands of years of Roman Catholic Church's murderous rage and genocide, and their Papal bloodlines. Obviously, anyone with discernment knows this channel and work is bought for by the RCC, which is why they stay silent on that issue while attacking the commonwealth... the most prosperous empire of all. Oh, and don't forget that the Indians in India and the African continent didn't want the British Empire to leave or depart, because they knew they had it good. Jesuit propaganda is constantly trying to destroy the commonwealth for stepping out on them 400 years ago, as God had planned and commanded.
@@perfectstandardkjv6849 I would like to see the Papacy overthrown as well. The District of Columbia (U.S.), the City of London, and the Vatican are party of the unholy trinity, the nexus of three city-states exercising a disproportionate amount of influence in the existing world order.
Extremely high quality segment. Thanks Democracy Now and all the guests for great insights on the history surrounding this news event
They are always ON POINT...
Don’t you mean biased segment
@@Boccherini64 any examples of biased content? Curious what you mean
@@rosshoyt2030 Biased as in having no opposition to the main points being asserted.
@@burtybasset4486That's not really what bias means. By your definition, to have an 'unbiased' panel discussion on WW2, a Nazi sympathizer would need to be included to discuss their opinions on the war.
In reality, this channel is providing a good counterpoint to the constant Royal-fawning occurring on most major media outlets. They're also discussing real historical events like the British Monarchy's involvement in slave trade - not sure any legitimate 'other side' exists on that topic (except for ignorance of history, which isn't really a 'side', though popular)
I appreciate you didn´t turn off comments. Lot of MSM sites (all perhaps?) turned comments off in order to prevent people from placing negative or comments which do not fit official narrative...
Is there a country in the world where the head of state does not get better medical care than it's citizens?
Yes and 100% free!!!for those useless Royal families!!!
You obviously missed the point priya was making when she raised that issue.
Joseph, clearly, the point went right over your head, sadly🤦♂️
Don´t know any...
Excellent coverage
This isn't a roundtable! It's a one sided bench.
As my father used to say, identity politics is the arsehole of imperialism
You father was very clever man.
So true!
RIP queen Elizabeth 11
We as the people would like to see a system all over the world where water and electricity and food become an undeniable right for peace prosperity and pleasure to reign……
It start by showing respect for other human beings and every one that born on this planet are equal, not just for what your rewards are
Outside UK and maybe the a portion of the western world, no one is shedding a tear.
Great topic. Timly coverage
History of Elizabeth II and her legacy must be told with a direct honesty. No matter the consequences. She represented the best and worst of the empire.
Best of the empire, rings hollow.
Being the best Imperial head of state is like being the smartest of the three stooges.
Only the worst obviously.
I'll be perfectly honest I'm completely indifferent. The Queen was no Saint.
It's sad a family have lost their mum and grandmother but aside from that what she represents carries on and unlike the rest of us peasants there will be no death and property inheritance taxes the wealth will be passed on untouched to the next generation. To quote George Carlin 'It's one big club and you ain't in it'
Thank you Ms. Gopal.
The queen’s life is great evidence that Republicans in the U.S. r wrong. A persons life CAN b extended greatly by access to healthcare, wealth, education, shelter & comfort…….
Even when they have not worked for these opportunities. 😬🥳
Great point!
@@down-to-earth-mystery-school let me tell all throughout the world people will always have it better than you whatever you do. It is not about you it is a natural human condition. Though we should not worship past and present tyranny In whatever way or form. Don't kid yourself that the downfall of the British monarchy would suddenly create equality it would just bring a different class of people to power
The devil you know is better than the devil you don't know
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'even when they have not worked...' The Queen was incredibly hard working - she was still doing it at 96 much longer than any regular person AND continued to just 2 days, whilst in poor health, before she passed - you're totally ignorant.
One aspect of plutocracy - well said, Priya! All with presidents take note of who really rules? (Money and those who have most, it seems).
Look in the skys. many Many ufos ET is here.. Reign over that.
why does Priya live in the country that oppressed her ancestors?
@@patricecunninghamakaintern2833 Did 1 of those ETs steal ur fkn brain? Must've been a fool's gold type deal
They have a point over colonialism. Look how well the african nations have flourished since getting independence from the UK decades ago. Oh wait, nevermind.
How can they flourish when the thief still have the stolen properties.
The best of the African Nations have emigrated at a rate of knots to 1st world Nations, like the United Kingdom and the United States, the rest have been left to suffer theft from the post colonial leaders, and corruption on a grand scale ... just look up Swaziland ..
How can they flourish when the c eye a, representing the capitalists, arrange the overthrow of leaders like Lumumba, and install leaders who do their bidding, which is to say, "we take your natural resources in return for "development ", and you get to line the pockets of you, your family and cronies.
Having there resources stolen by the crown didn't exactly give them a head start.
As an Indian whose parents felt the hard heel of the British monarchy and the so-called Raj, all I can say is that I feel nothing for her and for her successor, Charles the Third-Rate.
I applaud the balanced and respectful discussion on the historical weight of what she represented. You laid out the realities of what “empire” really means and what it meant for many people around the world in regards to this one - injustice, inhumanity, devastation, degradation, death.
All without being vile or smiling at the death of an old woman. So much criticism of her has been so laced with ugliness that it’s difficult to even *hear* the points raised.
So thank you…from someone that has very mixed feelings about the Queen and wants to believe she did her best to not knowingly or willingly perpetuate evil. I think she was keenly aware of the changing times, what the empire had done to become one, and where it was going. I think all she could do was choose to represent the good as much as she could, as her position called on her to do. I wonder if being more opinionated or vocal would have helped or harmed or mattered.
Regardless. What an end to an era. I’m excited to see the tides turn to a more fair and transparent age. And for karma to visit all in whatever way we deserve it.
Well said♥️
WELL SAID!!
Well Said!
Well done, Democracy Now and those interviewed. Power to the oppressed.
Who's oppressed?
@@LOSTONITALL Everyone under an American bomb, or under an American boot . . . or knee.
While there is much inequality in the world, it may not be the case that the solution is to pull down a constitutional monarchy. It is worth noting that having a hereditary constitutional monarchy solves a very sharp problem for a polity. It is an apolitical focus for national identity while being the centre of authority in the case of a a deadlock between power blocks within the nation, and it might even, if the role is filled by the right person, be a symbol of what the citizens of a country might look up to; that is, not to merely look up to the monarch but to look up to what the monarch looks up to.
They "British Monarchy" doesn't exactly worship the Christian God... That's implied...
“It’s only words,
but words are all I have
to steal your heart away! 💔
Monarchy Now! is the literal opposite of Democracy Now!
Are you claiming the UK is opposite of democracy? That would be a silly thing to say
The UK went from an Empire to a Commonwealth; therefore, the British King still has lands.
The family may own some land in some of the Commonwealth countries, but the countries themselves are not owned by the British Monarchy.
Canada: hold my beer.
As well he should.
@@mayloo2137 Canada will never be a republic.
She closed her eyes over the brutalities of apartheid in S .Africa
I’m afraid the interviewees seem to think that the monarch has political power, they don’t and haven’t since it is a constitutional monarchy. The UK government is a mess because it has been in the hands of Tories sleaze for over a decade- the British can vote to be a republic as every commonwealth country has been free to leave for decades and be independent. The monarchy brings much wealth to the country - they will remain who they are whether UK becomes a kingdom or not. Many in the commonwealth became incredibly wealthy after independence- those are the folk who should be looked at to be paying reparations. No country is obligated to host the monarch nor his representative. The wealth and power isn’t in the king, it’s in the hands of MOs and their mates as is the case I. USA
they do have some political power, f00l.
I’m afraid you view the monarchy as powerless. They meet with leaders in government on a regular basis. The only difference is the meetings and what was said and done aren’t made public. They hold substantial power and wealth. Saying they have no power is naive. They starved people, forced them into labor and violently tortured people. A brutal regime and it continued during the Queen’s time.
Am Diana fans RIP princess Diana 👸 u will be love n we miss you 😔 ❤️
Qudos to all the intelligent guests. Thank you Amy for bringing in articulate intelligent people on your show!
They are speaking for they everyday normal people living in the westindese, Africa, Middle East, China and India, America's South, and North, might as well say globally, thats big of destruction it was caused by UK empire, never was a queen or king to me personally and I never bow to no man or woman unless I know for facts is a Saint who gives respective good service to another beings or the planet
@@apexxxdarkenergy203 Learn to forgive.
@@apexxxdarkenergy203 I agree with you totally. Like to add that never bow to anyone but God. Everything else is His, Exalted is He, creation. Never bow to the created, but bow to the Creator. Don’t bow to includes all saints and messengers including Jesus Christ, peace be upon him. All are His creations.
@@Zenigma217 give the proselytizing a rest, will you?
I think a constitutional monarchy is one of the best forms of government, a monarch to act as a symbol and focal point for the public, with the government working to serve the public
what country did that happen in??
@@raycroal In La La Land .
@@raycroal if its so ineffective, explain why the British Monarchy was one of the few ro survive the first World War? Or survive as long as it has?
@@JKR9488 because britain is a twee little corrupt place, ps what other monarchies are you referring to
@@JKR9488 because of being a fucking island next to France??? Having an advanced navy??
Yes Ash ... I know this will be a Teachable Moment ...