@@LisaraScarletWouldn't making Ruan Mei faster than Sparkle optimize AV advance from Dance³? Another possible upgrade could be the use of Vonwaq ornaments on Bronya and Sparkle aleviating the necessity for a second Dance³ LC? With this set up it would be possible to use both Bronya's and Sparkle's LCs optimizing buff uptimes and decreasing gacha requirements/SP hungriness.
Alr compliments incoming, you're the only HSR/etc that have very clear depth guide ive seen, with very advanced explanation on every gimmick a character or mechanic, even tho some CC calls you arogant or toxic yet some CC put titles such "the only guide you need for ---" which is ironic, also you're the one that helps me understand to play straregically Overall you have the best content hope for the best
Now that's a TRUE Turn Manipulation tech, quite impressed with how you play around with the AV to all the units to prepare for the next cycle and not just pull DPS.
Great vid and showcase, you're the first person I've seen to mention the whole ulting on dps after bronya advances but before their turn proper, had the same idea when I was screwing around with a damage per screenshot on Hook lmao. bronya+sparkle herta team in pure fiction is also completely nuts
Your my favorite "Toxic" content creator because your guides are simply the best. No one else has this level of detail on character mechanics/Zero Cycle setups.
Thanks for the Guide Dreamy, I though we needed some secret tech to make Bronya x Sparkle work but as you point it out, its actually quite simple. (Unless you want to go for this kinda of limit breaking).
Holy. Nice showcase! Thank you for pausing and showing what your thought process is and not just "do this, do that bc I'm a CC and you should trust me" kinda thing. Heck some even don't say anything at all. It really shows you are very knowledgeable with the mechanics. I learned some helpful tips (even tho I don't even have Sparkle lol). Thanks.
If I were to pull for Sparkle, this video is why. However, my Ruan Mei is reserved for the dot team. I will see if I can get there or near there using Tingyun. A professional and easy to follow video. Thank you Dreamy.
Interestingly, Sparkle's buff, when using Bronya's skill, (aside from ult) is only kept in another, but rather rare situation for that dps's turn only: The dps gets action delayed(pushed down the turn order) to the point Sparkle's skill pulls them under Bronya, then Bronya pulls them up, they keep both Sparkle&Bronya's buffs for their entire turn and only that turn. this is possible but a rare situation, since only few enemies action delay that much when attacking. namely those Belobog ice-axe monsters, Called Shadewalkers, for example, that push your char down the turn order bar.(commonly found on the Frigid prowler Elite) those Shadewalkers have the most unique version of action delay, since they push the char's turn down each hit. not sure if imprisonment and/or entangled status could do the same. may depend on where the dps is in turn order, and if they get those statuses
Okay that tip to be able to get Sparkle skill + Bronya skill on an ult is really cool, good work This video helps make the team idea make a lot more sense, good guide thank you
Another great video. The audience is a lot more niche, but hits well for players like me who are not completely f2p. Lots of good info. I'll give you that sub now, lol.
Yep blade have more reward than usual dps at playing again i would say considering it's a guaranteed one/two stack most of the time so you can really start to see the FuA shine
I am still here as always even tho I only have S1 DDD 😅. Nice Showcase Dreamy! I am super excited if youre gonna go back to your Roots with Welt when Acheron comes
This is a really tricky setup ngl. Unironically star rail reminds me of card games, where even if u play with your meta deck, if you don't know how to use it and you do a lot of missplays you don't win, more or less. Anyways, i have a question reguarding Hook. She is very slow and in the past speed boots with something like 121 speed and asta where pretty much mandatory. So, is sparkle is best support? Can you play Hook with atk boots now?
Love the detail about timing tips. Thats good stuff. I've never really thought about it--does that mean ulting after skill counts as after your turn so buffs expire?
Crazy run. Really makes me happy to see you showcase Blade once again on your channel! By the way, did you decide to take an HP orb over a wind orb on your blade because of the stat rolls you got on the HP orb? Or did you just prefer using HP for this team setup?
Speaking of which, I have a unique setup for that. But mannnnnnnnnnn, too much tech videos in such a short time. I need to focus on my channel/discord overhaul ...
I'm new to your channel and I have to say that your guides are very very good and well made, especially the tips you give during the showcase. Is there any chance to get guides with the focus on those tips? Or maybe a gameplay where you comment what you are doing and why, it would be very helpful and interesting to watch
Thank you! The tips I give in the showcase already says everything about my thought process unless you mean you want a voiced commentary instead of just subtitles?
@@LisaraScarlet yes, but I was also thinking of going into more detail, for example "I focus on this enemy first because of x reason" (I watched only a few of your vids as of now, so maybe you already do that). I'm saying this because I'm not a very active or advanced player, so it would be cool hearing more about your reasoning, but if you prefer to focus more advanced players, I totally understand that doing this would only make the vids longer
@@Tensey18 I do say whenever I need to focus on a target. In-case I forget, just carefully watch who I target, usually it helps on damage distribution or weakness breaks.
Should be fine as long as you are taking into account the speed needed w/o Ruan Mei. You'd also need to delay some casts on Sparkle's ULT so the speed tuning with Bronya doesn't get messed up.
Lol that's pretty much undoable for the casuals. Best I can do is offpiece Bronya and Sparkle to hit 160+ spd. I did try that team with my blade (I don't really know how to use this team properly), with only 1 dancex3 s5. Works decently well, clearing in 4 cycles on full auto. Did noticed desync due to the action delay but not too much of an issue. Though the clear speed didn't feel significant enough compared to using another buffer/e1 blackswan, both on full auto.
okay so both my bronya and sparkle have relics that gives around 174 spd... and i have THREE s5 ddd lc (don't ask how i have no idea) what happens if i triple DDD tech...
WHO LET DREAMY COOKING THIS!? but anyway this is soo best tech but feels like it needs 2 bronya lc on bronya and also sparkle for more comforting skill point management. Anyway really best run! Finally our bladie gets biggest shine unlike many cc hyping jy or dhil.
Just to be clear if you basic attack with Bronya once this whole thing falls apart right? 😂 Seems like with Blade that's not much of a risk at least. This could be a pretty good setup for SU abundance runs I feel like. It has no pratical value in MoC imo cause you're stackíng the 3 best harmony units in the game on one side. Now Bronya+Sparkle only could be useful since you have Ruan Mei for the other side where you can use a dual DPS setup. Hm I guess it could be viable when Acheron comes out since she's not too fond of harmony supports anyway (playing her on 2nd side with Pela+SW for example).
Oh no. I only have one Dance Dance Dance and it isnt S5 yet. Unfortunate. I won't be able to do something like this for a while, and I already have 162 and 161 speed for Sparkle and Bronya.
Since bronya 100% action advances shouldn't she go before sparkle? That way if sparkle can't action advance enough to get your next turn on your carry, the 100% action advance isn't wasted?
I had my sparkle on 174 but my bronya is only able to go up to 154 , should I decrease the speed on sparkle? so far I don't really have any problem using them. I actually thought about trying to have sparkle on 200+ speed for 3 turn on first turn. But I can't achieve that especially I only have Dancex3 on S1 only.
You mean a damage dealer Asta build with Sparkle's signature LC? My issue with it is how Asta is required to perform basic attacks just to retrigger the Mask effect unless you don't care about that then yea, Sparkle's LC should be sub-dealer Asta's best LC.
With E2 Bronya, would be worth investing some speed on Blade so her eidolon bonus make him push before sparkle on the following turn? Or the loss of hp boots and lack of buffs in this extra action be a damage loss on the cycle?
@@LisaraScarlet desync because Dancex3 advancing him differently when at "normal speed" and when at "bronya E2 speed" right? Or is there any other factor? Haven't thought of that, my experience with Dancex3 is pretty limited
@@bsdraggon Remember that Sparkle's adv forward is only 50%. You actually need Blade to move forward naturally along with the team which is why if Sparkle is moving at 200 speed, Blade has to be at least 100 speed. This is why Sparkle has to move before Bronya. Blade gets 50% of his action value as soon as Sparkle moves so one skill from Sparkle then Blade will be able to move. Because Blade resets back to 0% action value, this is the best chance for Bronya to push him to 100% and make him act again. Now that both Sparkle and Bronya has moved, they all need to naturally advance again. The moment Sparkle can move again, Blade is back to 50% action value too. The cycle then repeats. So no, you can't have Blade reach higher speed than Sparkle even with Bronya's E2, there will be desyncs and would just waste some advance forwards.
@@LisaraScarlet Yeah, I constantly forget that being 50% changes a lot. Was thinking kinda it was like the same as Bronya. Thanks for the detailed explanation, and awesome video!
2 questions: 1. Why does blade go first upon entering battle when he is the slowest ally and Ruan mae is on Vonwacq? 2. U mentioned sparkle should be 160 spd and bronya 1 speed lower (159) but they both had 160 when showing builds?
Instead of Ruan Mei, is it better to use Asta's Ult to reach 200 spd breakpoint? If you're able to 100% upkeep Asta's Ult, then you can have permanent 200 spd Sparkle also?
Somehow, i just throw them both on blade team and sparkle advance blade to right in front of bronya turn Im using blade with up boots so yeah, use bronya to get him up, so now its like my blade is higher speed than bronya while not
But Dreamy, a non Dance3x team with both Sparkle and Bronya would also work, right? I’m thinking unlimited turn Seele 😂 but idk about SP management even tho I have Bronya E1
It's not exactly a big problem because it can be beneficial. What happens is that when the carry becomes faster than Sparkle and Bronya, they will do a dead turn where they aren't buffed. Sparkle then proceed to push the carry but the carry won't be able to move immediately. Bronya pushes the carry to act. This means that both buffs are now stacked on the carry and you can abuse it by using ULT there or follow up attacks. In Seele's case specifically, this is extremely strong because you can maintain Sparkle and Bronya's buff through her Resurgence.
@@LisaraScarlet oh cool, so dead turn but then a stacked turn with possibility of Ult or FuA (only downside is Past and Future of Sparkle not buffs, but welll) So yeah its not bad only maybe that not buff of that lc, I asked with 134 and 135 instead of both 160 161, what normally is done, cause slow Bronya on singular only Bronya team instead with Sparkle Thanks Lisara again and you are the best, may I post your videos link on reddit and hoyolab? What I can help to grow your channel but thats if you want
This is an absolute "FUN and yet NOT EVEN NECESSARY AT ALL" thing to do. You have to try to nerf you dps to do this (cuz the enemy is gonna get freakin 1shot when the dps touches them :v) This amount of support is enough for 2x 0cycle team lol @@ but still fun :v it makes some useless shits like Arlan playable without sustainer in the team (the enemies have 0 turns anyway). And the fun part of the video is that the upper half team, just Ratio casually 0 cycle the first half :v
Love the guide since this is the exact kind of thing I was thinking to run Sparkle for and no other sparkle guide had setup suggestions for it. One question though, does Bronya E2 change anything? Especially for more casual setups? I don't think I'll need to 200 speed 0 cycle most other content, as fun as it is.
If E2 Bronya somehow makes the carry have higher speed than Sparkle, what would happen is that the carry would instead have a dead turn (no buffs) and a stacked turn (have buffs from both Sparkle and Bronya's skill). This could be very strong on a character like Seele who could trigger Resurgence on that stacked turn and possibly abuse the buffs within 4 actions. ULT->Kill->Resurgence->Skill->Kill->Resurgence
@@ketansingh5220 through some optimizer calcs (Fribbels optimizer) and using relics my account has, e2s1 sparkle and e0s1 dhil has dhil doing bigger numbers (175k full enhanced basic vs 150k in pure single target) but then there's things unrelated to just raw damage to consider, like the extra SP point from dhil e2 and the 100% turn advancement (which will just be a pretty weak turn compared to sparkle buffed, but you could just use the turn to basic attack and recover another SP) also I was using a probably scuffed team of ting/sparkle/fx/dhil, maybe if you're going for 0-1 cycles you ditch sustain and bring in a def shredder, which amplifies the benefit from sparkle's e2 further, or maybe you're not using ting, idk
I don't speak English but how does this work if you said that they should have a difference of 1 speed and in the video you show Sparkle and Bronya with 160 speed
Imagine this. > Bronya pushes the carry > Carry acts and reset back to 0 action value > Sparkle pushes the carry > Carry can only reach 50% of their action value therefore cannot act
@@LisaraScarlet yes, but in this scenario, carry still has advanced action and buff, while if faster Sparkle pushes the carry and cary can't act, Bronya turn is also wasted.
You'll understand if you did more research on how the speed and advance forward mechanics work in HSR. It's leveraging how the turn-based system works here.
Hats off to you Dreamy for giving us a an in-depth and at the same time efficient way of explaining multiple techs to utilize.
facts
The hardest part of this run is getting 2x S5 DanceDanceDance
i dont even have a single copy lol
Which no one needs because you don't particularly need to 0-cycle :>
Mihoyo god blesses me with 3 S5 D3 so imma be trying this out real quick lol.
@@LisaraScarletWouldn't making Ruan Mei faster than Sparkle optimize AV advance from Dance³?
Another possible upgrade could be the use of Vonwaq ornaments on Bronya and Sparkle aleviating the necessity for a second Dance³ LC?
With this set up it would be possible to use both Bronya's and Sparkle's LCs optimizing buff uptimes and decreasing gacha requirements/SP hungriness.
@@YASUOMURAMASA Vonwacq only works on the 1st wave.
Alr compliments incoming, you're the only HSR/etc that have very clear depth guide ive seen, with very advanced explanation on every gimmick a character or mechanic, even tho some CC calls you arogant or toxic yet some CC put titles such "the only guide you need for ---" which is ironic, also you're the one that helps me understand to play straregically
Overall you have the best content hope for the best
Yeah, Dreamy is based and underrated. 🙏
Now that's a TRUE Turn Manipulation tech, quite impressed with how you play around with the AV to all the units to prepare for the next cycle and not just pull DPS.
loved the final hit in sync with the music
Unlimited Blade Works is REAL!?
Unlimited Blade Turns xD
I am the boner of my sword
3 blade and 1 healer@@didwewin90
Ima take notes real quick (sadly I only have 3/10 D3s for 2 S5s)
this comment aged well
Great vid and showcase, you're the first person I've seen to mention the whole ulting on dps after bronya advances but before their turn proper, had the same idea when I was screwing around with a damage per screenshot on Hook lmao. bronya+sparkle herta team in pure fiction is also completely nuts
Beautifully done. Cant be bothered to zero cycle myself but that was impressive to see.
Your my favorite "Toxic" content creator because your guides are simply the best. No one else has this level of detail on character mechanics/Zero Cycle setups.
Thanks for the Guide Dreamy, I though we needed some secret tech to make Bronya x Sparkle work but as you point it out, its actually quite simple. (Unless you want to go for this kinda of limit breaking).
Yea it's extremely simple. So I just took the chance to showcase what could've been a more tryhard setup.
daaang another banger informative video! I don't have a lot of the components, but this sure is an endgame eventual goal for me now lmao
I knew this was theoretically possible but I didn't think of using ddd on rm. Thanks for solving the last piece of the puzzle
Holy. Nice showcase! Thank you for pausing and showing what your thought process is and not just "do this, do that bc I'm a CC and you should trust me" kinda thing. Heck some even don't say anything at all. It really shows you are very knowledgeable with the mechanics. I learned some helpful tips (even tho I don't even have Sparkle lol). Thanks.
Thank you for the guide!! Really helpful. Can’t wait to see you doing (hopefully) a guide about Aventurine when he’s officially released in game
If I were to pull for Sparkle, this video is why.
However, my Ruan Mei is reserved for the dot team. I will see if I can get there or near there using Tingyun.
A professional and easy to follow video. Thank you Dreamy.
With a hyperspeed ty u can just avoid running double s5 ddd
I believe my Tingyun has 160 speed+it's the messenger set so it gives 12% more speed.
Interestingly, Sparkle's buff, when using Bronya's skill, (aside from ult) is only kept in another, but rather rare situation for that dps's turn only:
The dps gets action delayed(pushed down the turn order) to the point Sparkle's skill pulls them under Bronya, then Bronya pulls them up, they keep both Sparkle&Bronya's buffs for their entire turn and only that turn.
this is possible but a rare situation, since only few enemies action delay that much when attacking. namely those Belobog ice-axe monsters, Called Shadewalkers, for example, that push your char down the turn order bar.(commonly found on the Frigid prowler Elite)
those Shadewalkers have the most unique version of action delay, since they push the char's turn down each hit. not sure if imprisonment and/or entangled status could do the same.
may depend on where the dps is in turn order, and if they get those statuses
This was honestly really impressive! Might try building this team
i some how expect another machine gun kafka but this even better. Thanks for the showcase
I actually tested it, it was doing so much damage but there's some serious SP problems.
@@LisaraScarletso you are saying there were skill issues? 🧐
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Thank you for cooking this feast for us mother.
*New Harmony Unit*
Jing Yuan: Is it for-
Blade: GIVE ME ALL OF THEM.
Imagine if Robin also works well with Blade.
Okay that tip to be able to get Sparkle skill + Bronya skill on an ult is really cool, good work
This video helps make the team idea make a lot more sense, good guide thank you
There's a lot of steps but this strat is so satisfying
Another great video. The audience is a lot more niche, but hits well for players like me who are not completely f2p. Lots of good info. I'll give you that sub now, lol.
THIS IS AWESOME, YOU ARE AWESOME, THIS GAME IS AWESOME!
Yey finally someone showcased my main, advancing Blade consecutively is so satisfying 😌 Great strategy Dreamy!
Yep blade have more reward than usual dps at playing again i would say considering it's a guaranteed one/two stack most of the time so you can really start to see the FuA shine
I hate the fact that i only have one ddd lc
Very impressive run. I really need to optimize my Bronya's speed to be able to use some of these techs.
dreamy cooking as always 🔥
Was curious and hoping you would make a guide abt having to use the 2 sexy harmony at the same time and as always you always surprise us ❤❤❤
Dreamy delivering banger content since 1.0
great guide, few cc doing this kind of things, i dont even know that you could use bronya and sparkle buff at the same time like that.
There is a crime that was commited in this showcase: not using UBW as the BGM.
Pretty sure it'll get copyright claimed lol.
@@LisaraScarletOof, you right. Sacrifices gotta be made.
This is my exact setup for my gimmick DPS Fu Xuan team. The only problem is I don't have enough copies of DDD to make them S5.
Yesss I really needed this to fix my JL team tysm
This tech is NASTY 😭🔥🔥
So if I have two s1 DDD, how much speed do bronya and sparkle have?
174.5 for Bronya. Sparkle should always have 1 speed higher than Bronya.
I am still here as always even tho I only have S1 DDD 😅. Nice Showcase Dreamy! I am super excited if youre gonna go back to your Roots with Welt when Acheron comes
This is a really tricky setup ngl. Unironically star rail reminds me of card games, where even if u play with your meta deck, if you don't know how to use it and you do a lot of missplays you don't win, more or less. Anyways, i have a question reguarding Hook. She is very slow and in the past speed boots with something like 121 speed and asta where pretty much mandatory. So, is sparkle is best support? Can you play Hook with atk boots now?
You can.
My baby blade shining through!!! I love this comp sadly I got a wrong short person
There’s a bilibili vid of 0 cycling argenti using his 180 ult 4 times with TY Huo and Sprkle
dreamy : the run will be scuff because i have to nerf blade damage enemies die too fast
also dreamy : 0 cycle anyway
Man great showcase, kinda funny seing blade being work to death 😭
Волшебно❤
I just did 0 cycle first half moc 12 using DHIL with this guide. thanks
Love the detail about timing tips. Thats good stuff. I've never really thought about it--does that mean ulting after skill counts as after your turn so buffs expire?
need many SPD
My relics : 'def this and that'
Me :🗿
Crazy run. Really makes me happy to see you showcase Blade once again on your channel!
By the way, did you decide to take an HP orb over a wind orb on your blade because of the stat rolls you got on the HP orb? Or did you just prefer using HP for this team setup?
HP sphere has always been stronger on Blade once you factor in supports.
Me who doesn't have DDD light cone: Naruhodo
Need a version 2 of this video where you use Tingyun and messenger set instead of Ruan Mei.
Speaking of which, I have a unique setup for that. But mannnnnnnnnnn, too much tech videos in such a short time. I need to focus on my channel/discord overhaul ...
@@LisaraScarlet
Take your time champ
I'm new to your channel and I have to say that your guides are very very good and well made, especially the tips you give during the showcase.
Is there any chance to get guides with the focus on those tips? Or maybe a gameplay where you comment what you are doing and why, it would be very helpful and interesting to watch
Thank you! The tips I give in the showcase already says everything about my thought process unless you mean you want a voiced commentary instead of just subtitles?
@@LisaraScarlet yes, but I was also thinking of going into more detail, for example "I focus on this enemy first because of x reason" (I watched only a few of your vids as of now, so maybe you already do that).
I'm saying this because I'm not a very active or advanced player, so it would be cool hearing more about your reasoning, but if you prefer to focus more advanced players, I totally understand that doing this would only make the vids longer
@@Tensey18 I do say whenever I need to focus on a target. In-case I forget, just carefully watch who I target, usually it helps on damage distribution or weakness breaks.
Looks pretty fun.
is that setup works without ruan mei? if i change her for fu xuan and equip dance dance dance for bronya and sparkle would it works by slow jingliu?
Should be fine as long as you are taking into account the speed needed w/o Ruan Mei. You'd also need to delay some casts on Sparkle's ULT so the speed tuning with Bronya doesn't get messed up.
Can we use dance dance dance with less superimpositions? Or is it going to affect too much the rotation?
Possible. It does increase the speed requirements.
Lol that's pretty much undoable for the casuals. Best I can do is offpiece Bronya and Sparkle to hit 160+ spd. I did try that team with my blade (I don't really know how to use this team properly), with only 1 dancex3 s5. Works decently well, clearing in 4 cycles on full auto. Did noticed desync due to the action delay but not too much of an issue. Though the clear speed didn't feel significant enough compared to using another buffer/e1 blackswan, both on full auto.
okay so both my bronya and sparkle have relics that gives around 174 spd... and i have THREE s5 ddd lc (don't ask how i have no idea) what happens if i triple DDD tech...
Another crazy run from dorime
I REALLY wanna see what u cook up with Acheron, there's a lot I'm considering but I'm certain about none of it :C
WHO LET DREAMY COOKING THIS!?
but anyway this is soo best tech but feels like it needs 2 bronya lc on bronya and also sparkle for more comforting skill point management.
Anyway really best run! Finally our bladie gets biggest shine unlike many cc hyping jy or dhil.
well we're not close to be able to put 2 LC on 1 char
Does the effect of broken Keel stack? can sparkle and bronya both make use of it, being in same team or should I give bronya fleet of the ageless?
It stacks.
Just to be clear if you basic attack with Bronya once this whole thing falls apart right? 😂 Seems like with Blade that's not much of a risk at least. This could be a pretty good setup for SU abundance runs I feel like. It has no pratical value in MoC imo cause you're stackíng the 3 best harmony units in the game on one side. Now Bronya+Sparkle only could be useful since you have Ruan Mei for the other side where you can use a dual DPS setup. Hm I guess it could be viable when Acheron comes out since she's not too fond of harmony supports anyway (playing her on 2nd side with Pela+SW for example).
Yes, you cannot use Bronya's basic at all.
Oh no. I only have one Dance Dance Dance and it isnt S5 yet. Unfortunate. I won't be able to do something like this for a while, and I already have 162 and 161 speed for Sparkle and Bronya.
i dont understand why blade started before the girls (after vonwac RM) ... im confused
Turbulence.
I cannot find your discord server anywhere can I get a link :
I only add my discord server link on character guides. Here's the link discord.gg/dreamygc
Since bronya 100% action advances shouldn't she go before sparkle? That way if sparkle can't action advance enough to get your next turn on your carry, the 100% action advance isn't wasted?
this setup i can mimic xd look very gud my friend
I had my sparkle on 174 but my bronya is only able to go up to 154 , should I decrease the speed on sparkle? so far I don't really have any problem using them. I actually thought about trying to have sparkle on 200+ speed for 3 turn on first turn. But I can't achieve that especially I only have Dancex3 on S1 only.
Definitely lower it. You'll get much better experience with 160 Bronya and 161 Sparkle.
One thing you could have done to Nerf Blades damage is take off his light cone.
True. Or use the 3* LC, the one that gives a massive CRIT boost when the wearer is below 80%.
4:45 I was wondering if that was even possible to do and now I know it is!
Does Asta + Hanabi's signature cone crit build available?
You mean a damage dealer Asta build with Sparkle's signature LC? My issue with it is how Asta is required to perform basic attacks just to retrigger the Mask effect unless you don't care about that then yea, Sparkle's LC should be sub-dealer Asta's best LC.
Can you still run them together if only sparkle is 160 speed but bronya is 134? Don't have the relics to get them both to 160
Better lower Sparkle's speed to 135 if that's the case.
Yoo Dreamy! WTF this is actually insane 😭. Who said Blade can't 0 cycle?? You just need to find the right tech to do it. Great explanation too 🤌💎💎💎
With E2 Bronya, would be worth investing some speed on Blade so her eidolon bonus make him push before sparkle on the following turn? Or the loss of hp boots and lack of buffs in this extra action be a damage loss on the cycle?
The issue is gonna be the desync with Sparkle.
@@LisaraScarlet desync because Dancex3 advancing him differently when at "normal speed" and when at "bronya E2 speed" right? Or is there any other factor? Haven't thought of that, my experience with Dancex3 is pretty limited
@@bsdraggon Remember that Sparkle's adv forward is only 50%. You actually need Blade to move forward naturally along with the team which is why if Sparkle is moving at 200 speed, Blade has to be at least 100 speed. This is why Sparkle has to move before Bronya. Blade gets 50% of his action value as soon as Sparkle moves so one skill from Sparkle then Blade will be able to move. Because Blade resets back to 0% action value, this is the best chance for Bronya to push him to 100% and make him act again. Now that both Sparkle and Bronya has moved, they all need to naturally advance again. The moment Sparkle can move again, Blade is back to 50% action value too. The cycle then repeats. So no, you can't have Blade reach higher speed than Sparkle even with Bronya's E2, there will be desyncs and would just waste some advance forwards.
@@LisaraScarlet Yeah, I constantly forget that being 50% changes a lot. Was thinking kinda it was like the same as Bronya. Thanks for the detailed explanation, and awesome video!
now what if i have e2 bronya.. how would i speed tune if i wanna run sparkle x bronya?
Depends on which carry but it shouldn't affect the speed tuning at all for the other carries.
2 questions:
1. Why does blade go first upon entering battle when he is the slowest ally and Ruan mae is on Vonwacq?
2. U mentioned sparkle should be 160 spd and bronya 1 speed lower (159) but they both had 160 when showing builds?
1. Turbulence effect.
2. There are hidden speed decimals.
if you run sparkle and bronya with wind set and use ult get 25% advance can you not get 8 turn for your dps?
You'll need a way to get pseudo 250 speed. Just using Eagle set won't be enough.
ok understand thanks
Instead of Ruan Mei, is it better to use Asta's Ult to reach 200 spd breakpoint? If you're able to 100% upkeep Asta's Ult, then you can have permanent 200 spd Sparkle also?
You can do that but Asta's support is significantly weaker.
Somehow, i just throw them both on blade team and sparkle advance blade to right in front of bronya turn
Im using blade with up boots so yeah, use bronya to get him up, so now its like my blade is higher speed than bronya while not
But Dreamy, a non Dance3x team with both Sparkle and Bronya would also work, right? I’m thinking unlimited turn Seele 😂 but idk about SP management even tho I have Bronya E1
Yes, it would work. I literally explained at the beginning that you simply need +1 SPD Sparkle over Bronya.
Wouldn't it be better for bronya to be faster than sparkle?
hope i can still get Sparkle before she leaves, i should be able to get to pity but only once
For 134 and 135, if Bronya is e2, there is a "problem" the spd buff can make the dps faster than them
Can the dps faster than them work?
It's not exactly a big problem because it can be beneficial. What happens is that when the carry becomes faster than Sparkle and Bronya, they will do a dead turn where they aren't buffed. Sparkle then proceed to push the carry but the carry won't be able to move immediately. Bronya pushes the carry to act. This means that both buffs are now stacked on the carry and you can abuse it by using ULT there or follow up attacks. In Seele's case specifically, this is extremely strong because you can maintain Sparkle and Bronya's buff through her Resurgence.
@@LisaraScarlet oh cool, so dead turn but then a stacked turn with possibility of Ult or FuA (only downside is Past and Future of Sparkle not buffs, but welll)
So yeah its not bad only maybe that not buff of that lc, I asked with 134 and 135 instead of both 160 161, what normally is done, cause slow Bronya on singular only Bronya team instead with Sparkle
Thanks Lisara again and you are the best, may I post your videos link on reddit and hoyolab? What I can help to grow your channel but thats if you want
@@Jose-es6rw There should be no harm sharing my videos.
are there any differences with e0 bronya + sparkle and e2 bronya + sparkle?
Some already asked this in the comments and I answered them.
@@LisaraScarlet sorry, didn’t see, but thank you i will look for them!
This is an absolute "FUN and yet NOT EVEN NECESSARY AT ALL" thing to do.
You have to try to nerf you dps to do this (cuz the enemy is gonna get freakin 1shot when the dps touches them :v)
This amount of support is enough for 2x 0cycle team lol @@ but still fun :v it makes some useless shits like Arlan playable without sustainer in the team (the enemies have 0 turns anyway).
And the fun part of the video is that the upper half team, just Ratio casually 0 cycle the first half :v
What if we switch ruan mei with Robin?
You can but you won't be able to reduce the speed requirements.
Should I pull for Sparkle or Acheron?
Love the guide since this is the exact kind of thing I was thinking to run Sparkle for and no other sparkle guide had setup suggestions for it.
One question though, does Bronya E2 change anything? Especially for more casual setups? I don't think I'll need to 200 speed 0 cycle most other content, as fun as it is.
If E2 Bronya somehow makes the carry have higher speed than Sparkle, what would happen is that the carry would instead have a dead turn (no buffs) and a stacked turn (have buffs from both Sparkle and Bronya's skill). This could be very strong on a character like Seele who could trigger Resurgence on that stacked turn and possibly abuse the buffs within 4 actions.
ULT->Kill->Resurgence->Skill->Kill->Resurgence
oh crap they will make stage 15 on moc if a hypercarry team can do this
more blade 0 cycles!
Out of topic but who do u think is stronger duo , iL e2S1 with e0s1 hanabi or E2S1 hanabi with e0 S1 iL ?
e2s1 hanabi no doubt, in addition to likely just being stronger, it makes your entire roster stronger too, not just dhil
I'm actually not that sure but I'd take E2S1 Sparkle any day.
@@Keykey70 sorry bro i m asking as duo , not as single entity
@@ketansingh5220 through some optimizer calcs (Fribbels optimizer) and using relics my account has, e2s1 sparkle and e0s1 dhil has dhil doing bigger numbers (175k full enhanced basic vs 150k in pure single target)
but then there's things unrelated to just raw damage to consider, like the extra SP point from dhil e2 and the 100% turn advancement (which will just be a pretty weak turn compared to sparkle buffed, but you could just use the turn to basic attack and recover another SP)
also I was using a probably scuffed team of ting/sparkle/fx/dhil, maybe if you're going for 0-1 cycles you ditch sustain and bring in a def shredder, which amplifies the benefit from sparkle's e2 further, or maybe you're not using ting, idk
Can this be achieved with some windsets instead of the 2nd DDD?
You can. The issue is getting those super high speed Eagle sets.
What's the speed breakpoint if only 1 DDD S5? Only have 1 DDD S5 but would like to speedtune the team.
185 SPD Bronya.
184 spd on bronya, unreachable
@@jedhraley not with that attitude
@@LisaraScarlet so 175 with Ruan Mei? and 176 Speed on Sparkle. What about the breakpoints if 4pc Wind set is used on Sparkle?
@@ultranecro Using Eagle set would mess up the speed tuning.
Thank you! 🙏❤️✨
Does E2 Bronya has any impact on this setup?
Depends on which carry but typically, none.
I don't speak English but how does this work if you said that they should have a difference of 1 speed and in the video you show Sparkle and Bronya with 160 speed
There are hidden speed decimals.
@@LisaraScarlet And who is faster, Bronya or Sparkle, both with 160 speed?
@@Fernando-pg5sn As you can see, my Sparkle is faster through a few decimals.
Hmm I've never seen you make clara video pls make one
Im so sad I don’t have ruan mei
To think I played from release and not have a single DDD. RIP
How did Blade get first turn?
Turbulence. This was the older MOC which most likely expired already.
Why Sparkle needs to be faster one?
Imagine this.
> Bronya pushes the carry
> Carry acts and reset back to 0 action value
> Sparkle pushes the carry
> Carry can only reach 50% of their action value therefore cannot act
@@LisaraScarlet yes, but in this scenario, carry still has advanced action and buff, while if faster Sparkle pushes the carry and cary can't act, Bronya turn is also wasted.
You'll understand if you did more research on how the speed and advance forward mechanics work in HSR. It's leveraging how the turn-based system works here.
if sparkle's push doesn't make the carry act before bronya then you've messed up the speed tuning in this team.
8 cycles swift dispatch