SHADOW HUNTER is the best ! she has : - sustain - stag - destru - low cd on counter - no back attack - move speed for a spe class - 2 gems required - 3/4 tripod (exactly what we get in the solo raid shop) - return in human form anytime (when we need to wait with the slayer) she's perfect for the solo raid... for me she's S++
@@NoEditAndy More like .. i played it since launch. Tank card set is just op,and offers crazy value there. Tbh,wonder if its worth switching to technique at t4 - heard its much better than mayhem.
I do solo raid on alot of class including all dps sups. What i found is that at ilvl, dps artist deserve a better place than that. Its swiftness class, consistent high dps (crit rate isnt a problem for artist) and she got buffed with sup exclusive choice (the brand one at the start of the raid i forgot the name of it), easy stagger check, everything is just too good. If i can compare its dps, its higher than LC/reflux for sure and has no mana issue like WF aero etc that even if you have mana bracelet and food its still an issue that need to be addressed for solo raid.
I found control super easy, honestly i think all consistent classes are just better than burst. Youre not getting support buffs for your burst, and if you happen to wiff or not crit its just so much more punishing.
I hope you don't enrage the bottom tier andys! Looking forward to watching this later if you did while I rage hone. 'Merica fvck yeah edit: The comments so far are awesome. Does the solo raid buffs not work like support damage, back attacks applies to anywhere? I haven't done an solos cuz I have a static and a full roster of 1650+
The back attack buff only applies the +10% crit chance and 5 dmg from landing back attacks anywhere. Stuff like entropy and ambush master dont apply unless you are actually hitting the back.
Yeah Reaper is EZ tier only if it's your main, you can do a lot of funky stuff, positionings and counters in order to maximize uptime that other classes cant do, otherwise that sounds about right
Very interesting, most of the time I had more difficulty in high spec ATM classes, like peacemaker. It's difficult to get past the G2 Brel in the cap. While with Mayhem and Glaive Control it was very smooth. I made a Souleater and put it at 1415 and it was very complicated to make Valtan with a Chaos DG set, I had to level up some talents first. Perhaps just this T3 entry is the most complicated thing for new players. The rest could just be a skill issue, like I can't do it with Guns. Unfortunately back atk classes suffer on bosses that move a lot, but nothing that can't be adapted with a Nightmare, Dominion, etc. set.
Peacemaker is definitely hard to play in the beginning as you get used to the gun changes. Also, some people just click with certain classes than others. My personal belief is that mayhem and control are very good but I am looking at all the various factors in a holistic sense - that is why I rated gs above but players very well may be doing better with any of the lower classes I mentioned. Just one man's tier list I wanted to share!
just picked up a new account to try out gunslinger peacemaker and yeah at first it's tough, but as noeditandy said it's very nice once you get used to weapon swapping. the only raid i really had an issue with was clown with her due to lacking stagger when certain skills are on cd.
Very good list and I agree with most of the Tier and order. However imo, DI SH is probably the easiest class to play solo than NE SE. and NE SE is right behind her, simply she has auto HP generation and does not need a strict rotation. NE SE is very fast but she needs some sort of rotation to generate bubble before can attack, not saying it hard, but a little more complex and more nuance than DI SH.
Yea, it can be argued all of the ones at the top which is truly the best. I put NE because of how fluid the gameplay is and damage is much stronger than DI. But the DI HP heal + constant paralysis immunity is nice!!!
With the true supporter buff, sup is actually op in solo raid. You're essentially doing 80% more damage, basically doing the raid as 8x 3 or 9 x 3 compare to other dps classes with' 5x3.
def not wrong! I did mech contribution for my other tier list video so ur correct. A loophole I guess I can say is that they can simply use the stagger buff to compensate
I thought gravity training would be by far the best, and it may still be with the fast perfect swing, but no crit was pretty punishing, and i found reflux sorc to just spit out dmg without worrying about patterns, always have teleport, and just straight up faster to clear. Reflux is way better than loyal companion, its not even close. More dmg, more movement, more stagger, more dest, way less animation locks. Loyal companion is only better if you do not push your buttons.
gravity destroyer is by far the easiest thing ive played in solo mode and its not close. i dont use fast perfect swing either, you might just be doing something wrong or idk what your ilvl is. brel/akkan/voldis are just really easy face tank bonk time, and with the front attack giving you speed buff you are gaming so hard
@Chalicxe oh it's easy, but it's not even close to as fast as reflux sorc that just spits out dmg, no crit? Who cares, boss turns or moves? Who cares, just spit out more.
@@chriso6042 boss is almost always looking at you, i almost literally just stand there and smash skills until boss is dead. no dodging, no gauge worries, no stagger worries, youre very fast with spirit absorption and the front attack speed bonus. i wouldnt be afraid to say it is literally the best
Gunslinger is my worse performing alt by far in solo mode. Worse counter in the game out of the ones ive tried, and stagger is not good either. Love it in group play but its a pain to play in solo mode. Also artilerist is one of the easiest you basically skip most of the mechanics being shielded and all.
@@petetam7394 Im comparing it to the other classes im playing rn, AT machinist, artilerist, souleater, breaker and reaper. All have superior stagger,. dmg, counter and survivability. The GS counter is so horrid. I did end up switching to dominion tth as well and its better but stil not better than the rest. Asura breaker is by far the best though.
@@cleaved3453i only have a soul eater alt to compare , while i agree she is easier to counter than GS , GS is not neccesrily in a much worst position. I run a spec swift TTH, what i do for counter is removing the dash 5 meter tripod for Peacekeep since it tends to over dash , for stagger , I run AT02 grenade fire works tripod with leggo overwhelm runes and together with meteor strike and catastrophe with overwhelm runes she does pretty decent in stagger check. full swift dominion TTH is the most fun GS build but tends to run into mana issues without food , so thats why i prefer to run spec swift. Spec TTH has pretty decent burst and less sweatty to play than full swift TTH as well
Actually CO wasnt very good for solo. Master summ is better a bit awkward with some of the long animation but you get it all. Superb destruction/stagger and shield. Igniter is very good if you know the boss. Have seen somebody do Kayangel at ilevel and he was shredding it. Ofc he had very optimized gear from the past.
You are the second person to mention CO summoner. Can you tell me why you think CO is not good for solo? Just wondering because maybe I'm missing something
@@NoEditAndy Very high APM class, and still needing to hit 3 spears and do animation cancels for skills that lock you in place all while taking boss aggro. Mechanics wise the class is not that complex. Just high effort, very clunky, 7 damage gem, relatively squishy class that does subpar damage. Imo not EZ tier or super sweaty tier, maybe somewhere in the low average.
@@NoEditAndy Also, at least for solo mode, you can just play full swift MS. It's less APM because less pets to manage, still high swift, don't have to deal with pet bugs, and you still do more damage than CO. The only tradeoff is that you have to do animation cancel for 2 skills now instead of 1, but that is worth not having to deal with the current state of CO.
Back attack classes are both good but bad in solo mode. Good because if you choose all back attack bonus, all attacks are considered back attack so you can do so much damage easily Bad because you can't choose another bonus
@@Landstalker1999not really , it still adds dps when you are not able to back attack. This also allows to run hallu and replace ambush with another engrv and still havr decent damage.
Yep, with the buffs supports have an easier time. BUT, I still would rather play a dps. I am not going to encourage putting support at the top and potentially confuse a new player to play dps support
If you are rating cause difficulty, you are doing it wrong, just saying, too hard? dont play the class, dont diminish an amazing class cause others will find it difficult
what are with these comments? The video's purpose is to show the best solo mode classes. I play arcanist, but I'm not going to say that arcanist is the best solo mode class to play as it is a very difficult class.
@@NoEditAndy a lot of FI still go entropy if they want to get more damage in group raids since that build is the top dps they can do. but yeah dom FI is more of a thing now for ease of play (similar to PS Shadowhunter).
sorry if it was confusing to understand but i add "like a reaper" immediately after that statement because I am thinking where to place it so I'm using reaper and the hitmasters as a benchmark
@@NoEditAndy Tai scrapper is one of the most mobile classes in the game though. Literally the only class with a double space bar, and the 2nd easiest to back attack behind reaper. She has so much mobility.
@@NoEditAndy you're not understanding lol. You said it wasnt a mobile class, which it is. It being less mobile than Reaper doesn't mean it isnt mobile lol.
@@mazder0 I'm afraid you are the one not understanding sir. What I am trying to tell you is that it is not AS MOBILE AS a reaper. Hence, I wrote that I apologize if it was difficult to understand because I did in fact say "like a reaper" immediately after that "not mobile" statement. Does this make sense? I am thinking in my head where to place tai scrapper so I used the hitmasters and reaper as a benchmark.
Class difficulty is very overrated on this tier list and DPS is underrated. Surge for example is very easy in solo mode, because every boss becomes trixion because of how much easier they are. DPS being able to skip mechs is more felt because you're the only one that needs to meet the dps check. I feel like Gunslinger is actually overrated. Losing the any range hitmaster status that GS normally gets feels like a big deal when you're getting aggroed perma.
i personally don't find hitmaster to be a detriment. still much better than back attackers and most of the time you just need to step/dash to the side a bit to dodge patterns before swapping to shotgun/sniper to do 2 skills with crit buff. but yeah burst class back attackers like surge also don't have much issue hitting the back even in solo mode once you get used to it either
@@atomhere I didn't mean that it's a detriment, rather, in group play it's a huge advantage to be a ranged hitmaster and losing that advantage is a bit underrated.
it's funny reading this and then I check your channel and it's a 1610 paladin taking 4 minutes to clear a kayangel gate when it takes 2 minutes and a half for my 1600 berserker. Please don't influence the new players. It's bad.
Ngl this list kinda dookie
agreed
Definitely doodoo
bro added everything on S
SHADOW HUNTER is the best ! she has :
- sustain
- stag
- destru
- low cd on counter
- no back attack
- move speed for a spe class
- 2 gems required
- 3/4 tripod (exactly what we get in the solo raid shop)
- return in human form anytime (when we need to wait with the slayer)
she's perfect for the solo raid... for me she's S++
Berserker's technique should be in DANGER LEVEL. Equipped with Salvation is a freaking nightmare, like a handicapped Goblin raiding a Bear's hut LMAO
@@lazyguitarAF hahaha yep. It’s pretty bad
Mayhem is insane for new players due to easily obtainable tank card set. It makes him 3-4x tankier and is op AF.
nice! glad you're enjoying mayhem!
@@NoEditAndy More like .. i played it since launch. Tank card set is just op,and offers crazy value there.
Tbh,wonder if its worth switching to technique at t4 - heard its much better than mayhem.
@@ppokll8524 it's always worth trying it out!
I do solo raid on alot of class including all dps sups. What i found is that at ilvl, dps artist deserve a better place than that. Its swiftness class, consistent high dps (crit rate isnt a problem for artist) and she got buffed with sup exclusive choice (the brand one at the start of the raid i forgot the name of it), easy stagger check, everything is just too good. If i can compare its dps, its higher than LC/reflux for sure and has no mana issue like WF aero etc that even if you have mana bracelet and food its still an issue that need to be addressed for solo raid.
I’m sure dps artist is great! However this is not a dps tier list. I’m glad you are having fun with solo modes! Keep it up ❤
@@NoEditAndy Isn't low dps the only reason why the supports are so low?
I found control super easy, honestly i think all consistent classes are just better than burst. Youre not getting support buffs for your burst, and if you happen to wiff or not crit its just so much more punishing.
Yep, that is what I considered when ranking! That's why igniter and master summoner are lower down the list. NOT BECAUSE OF DAMAGE THOUGH!!!
I hope you don't enrage the bottom tier andys! Looking forward to watching this later if you did while I rage hone. 'Merica fvck yeah
edit: The comments so far are awesome. Does the solo raid buffs not work like support damage, back attacks applies to anywhere? I haven't done an solos cuz I have a static and a full roster of 1650+
I already did haha they come coming in swarms
The back attack buff only applies the +10% crit chance and 5 dmg from landing back attacks anywhere. Stuff like entropy and ambush master dont apply unless you are actually hitting the back.
Hello) I'm from Russia, I don't know English well (so I apologize).
Tell me, is arcana (emperor) a strong class?
yes, it is a solid class. But if you want a really strong class, emperor is not worth the effort. Play breaker, souleater, sorceress instead.
Yeah Reaper is EZ tier only if it's your main, you can do a lot of funky stuff, positionings and counters in order to maximize uptime that other classes cant do, otherwise that sounds about right
@@forgeofambience29 glad you agree! Thanks for watching
Very interesting, most of the time I had more difficulty in high spec ATM classes, like peacemaker. It's difficult to get past the G2 Brel in the cap. While with Mayhem and Glaive Control it was very smooth. I made a Souleater and put it at 1415 and it was very complicated to make Valtan with a Chaos DG set, I had to level up some talents first. Perhaps just this T3 entry is the most complicated thing for new players. The rest could just be a skill issue, like I can't do it with Guns. Unfortunately back atk classes suffer on bosses that move a lot, but nothing that can't be adapted with a Nightmare, Dominion, etc. set.
Peacemaker is definitely hard to play in the beginning as you get used to the gun changes. Also, some people just click with certain classes than others. My personal belief is that mayhem and control are very good but I am looking at all the various factors in a holistic sense - that is why I rated gs above but players very well may be doing better with any of the lower classes I mentioned. Just one man's tier list I wanted to share!
just picked up a new account to try out gunslinger peacemaker and yeah at first it's tough, but as noeditandy said it's very nice once you get used to weapon swapping. the only raid i really had an issue with was clown with her due to lacking stagger when certain skills are on cd.
you dont need stims for dps paladin if you play it correctly its very strong in solo raids
Very good list and I agree with most of the Tier and order. However imo, DI SH is probably the easiest class to play solo than NE SE. and NE SE is right behind her, simply she has auto HP generation and does not need a strict rotation. NE SE is very fast but she needs some sort of rotation to generate bubble before can attack, not saying it hard, but a little more complex and more nuance than DI SH.
Yea, it can be argued all of the ones at the top which is truly the best. I put NE because of how fluid the gameplay is and damage is much stronger than DI. But the DI HP heal + constant paralysis immunity is nice!!!
With the true supporter buff, sup is actually op in solo raid.
You're essentially doing 80% more damage, basically doing the raid as 8x 3 or 9 x 3 compare to other dps classes with' 5x3.
nice!
I think mech contribution should've been considered. Like with rs soulfist you also do doodoo stagger without hype
def not wrong! I did mech contribution for my other tier list video so ur correct. A loophole I guess I can say is that they can simply use the stagger buff to compensate
I thought gravity training would be by far the best, and it may still be with the fast perfect swing, but no crit was pretty punishing, and i found reflux sorc to just spit out dmg without worrying about patterns, always have teleport, and just straight up faster to clear.
Reflux is way better than loyal companion, its not even close. More dmg, more movement, more stagger, more dest, way less animation locks.
Loyal companion is only better if you do not push your buttons.
gravity training definitely has some issues but is a very good class in solo mode bonk bonk bonk. Reflux is definitely better imo
gravity destroyer is by far the easiest thing ive played in solo mode and its not close. i dont use fast perfect swing either, you might just be doing something wrong or idk what your ilvl is. brel/akkan/voldis are just really easy face tank bonk time, and with the front attack giving you speed buff you are gaming so hard
@Chalicxe oh it's easy, but it's not even close to as fast as reflux sorc that just spits out dmg, no crit? Who cares, boss turns or moves? Who cares, just spit out more.
@@chriso6042 boss is almost always looking at you, i almost literally just stand there and smash skills until boss is dead. no dodging, no gauge worries, no stagger worries, youre very fast with spirit absorption and the front attack speed bonus. i wouldnt be afraid to say it is literally the best
why are all the symbols like that in every UA-cam content, I looked for when creating a character, there are no symbols like that
Gunslinger is my worse performing alt by far in solo mode. Worse counter in the game out of the ones ive tried, and stagger is not good either. Love it in group play but its a pain to play in solo mode. Also artilerist is one of the easiest you basically skip most of the mechanics being shielded and all.
darn sorry to hear that!
hump i dont know man, my TTH GS alt has been pumping thru solo raid. Even pass the stagger check in Ivory G3 that many said it is tight.
@@petetam7394 Im comparing it to the other classes im playing rn, AT machinist, artilerist, souleater, breaker and reaper. All have superior stagger,. dmg, counter and survivability. The GS counter is so horrid. I did end up switching to dominion tth as well and its better but stil not better than the rest. Asura breaker is by far the best though.
@@cleaved3453i only have a soul eater alt to compare , while i agree she is easier to counter than GS , GS is not neccesrily in a much worst position. I run a spec swift TTH, what i do for counter is removing the dash 5 meter tripod for Peacekeep since it tends to over dash , for stagger , I run AT02 grenade fire works tripod with leggo overwhelm runes and together with meteor strike and catastrophe with overwhelm runes she does pretty decent in stagger check.
full swift dominion TTH is the most fun GS build but tends to run into mana issues without food , so thats why i prefer to run spec swift. Spec TTH has pretty decent burst and less sweatty to play than full swift TTH as well
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I know this isnt a DPS tier list but is this a solo raid tier list as for easier solo raids?
@@southpaw4713 yes ideally this list should rank what classes are solid in solo mode
Striker is terrible for solo mode. Pretty sure he heals the boss with level 7 gems
haha yep absolute horrid
Actually CO wasnt very good for solo. Master summ is better a bit awkward with some of the long animation but you get it all.
Superb destruction/stagger and shield.
Igniter is very good if you know the boss. Have seen somebody do Kayangel at ilevel and he was shredding it. Ofc he had very optimized gear from the past.
You are the second person to mention CO summoner. Can you tell me why you think CO is not good for solo? Just wondering because maybe I'm missing something
@@NoEditAndy Very high APM class, and still needing to hit 3 spears and do animation cancels for skills that lock you in place all while taking boss aggro. Mechanics wise the class is not that complex. Just high effort, very clunky, 7 damage gem, relatively squishy class that does subpar damage. Imo not EZ tier or super sweaty tier, maybe somewhere in the low average.
@@jfw7900 thanks! that is a very fair assessment
@@NoEditAndy Also, at least for solo mode, you can just play full swift MS. It's less APM because less pets to manage, still high swift, don't have to deal with pet bugs, and you still do more damage than CO. The only tradeoff is that you have to do animation cancel for 2 skills now instead of 1, but that is worth not having to deal with the current state of CO.
@@jfw7900 nice, cool ideas for hopefully some newer co summoner mains to see
My god dude you have 4 other categories
I’m confused. Do you want an accurate tier list or an aesthetically pleasing one?
Back attack classes are both good but bad in solo mode.
Good because if you choose all back attack bonus, all attacks are considered back attack so you can do so much damage easily
Bad because you can't choose another bonus
Unfortunately, the back attack buff doesn’t count for ambush master and entropy set which are the biggest damage influences
@@NoEditAndy so then it's useless
@@Landstalker1999not really , it still adds dps when you are not able to back attack. This also allows to run hallu and replace ambush with another engrv and still havr decent damage.
I can't read the chinese title can someone translate?
better learn chinese buddy
PvE high damage which class? I am starting over
check out tomorrows video ;) filmed and ready for viewing!
@@NoEditAndy please upload soon
@@nefareal4546 8 am est!
actually f it. Im posting and making another video I wanted to make for tomorrow
all supps this "super fast run"
Yep, with the buffs supports have an easier time. BUT, I still would rather play a dps. I am not going to encourage putting support at the top and potentially confuse a new player to play dps support
If you are rating cause difficulty, you are doing it wrong, just saying, too hard? dont play the class, dont diminish an amazing class cause others will find it difficult
what are with these comments? The video's purpose is to show the best solo mode classes. I play arcanist, but I'm not going to say that arcanist is the best solo mode class to play as it is a very difficult class.
me omw to find something to blame for being terrible at the game
fi isn't back attack and also not clunky. 2 nightmare 4 dom full swift
I guess I’m just not a fan of leaping dragon! But I’m glad you are enjoying the class/game
@@NoEditAndy a lot of FI still go entropy if they want to get more damage in group raids since that build is the top dps they can do. but yeah dom FI is more of a thing now for ease of play (similar to PS Shadowhunter).
Taijutsu scrapper is not mobile? LOL
sorry if it was confusing to understand but i add "like a reaper" immediately after that statement because I am thinking where to place it so I'm using reaper and the hitmasters as a benchmark
@@NoEditAndy Tai scrapper is one of the most mobile classes in the game though. Literally the only class with a double space bar, and the 2nd easiest to back attack behind reaper. She has so much mobility.
@@mazder0 yea, exactly. She behind reaper.
@@NoEditAndy you're not understanding lol. You said it wasnt a mobile class, which it is. It being less mobile than Reaper doesn't mean it isnt mobile lol.
@@mazder0 I'm afraid you are the one not understanding sir. What I am trying to tell you is that it is not AS MOBILE AS a reaper. Hence, I wrote that I apologize if it was difficult to understand because I did in fact say "like a reaper" immediately after that "not mobile" statement. Does this make sense? I am thinking in my head where to place tai scrapper so I used the hitmasters and reaper as a benchmark.
Class difficulty is very overrated on this tier list and DPS is underrated. Surge for example is very easy in solo mode, because every boss becomes trixion because of how much easier they are. DPS being able to skip mechs is more felt because you're the only one that needs to meet the dps check.
I feel like Gunslinger is actually overrated. Losing the any range hitmaster status that GS normally gets feels like a big deal when you're getting aggroed perma.
Thanks for sharing!
i personally don't find hitmaster to be a detriment. still much better than back attackers and most of the time you just need to step/dash to the side a bit to dodge patterns before swapping to shotgun/sniper to do 2 skills with crit buff. but yeah burst class back attackers like surge also don't have much issue hitting the back even in solo mode once you get used to it either
@@atomhere I didn't mean that it's a detriment, rather, in group play it's a huge advantage to be a ranged hitmaster and losing that advantage is a bit underrated.
Rly paladin judg so low? LOOOOL i was 1580 and i was doing akkan faster than on my 1620 sf. This one thing made me the list simply Trash.
i have even movies on my yt channel, you can see kayangel the newest one. Tell me if 3-4min bosses are hard? lol
he did based in the voices of his mind, CO is awful for solo mode. and supps are good in general if you run the dps engraving
@@jrzlz what is CO
@@Nekomk123 summoner class i think communication overflow
it's funny reading this and then I check your channel and it's a 1610 paladin taking 4 minutes to clear a kayangel gate when it takes 2 minutes and a half for my 1600 berserker. Please don't influence the new players. It's bad.