This the best explanation of tubulars i have seen on youtube, and brings back some great memories. Attaching my share with a used toe clip strap, check; performing surgery on a flat tubular because i could not afford a new new one, done it; getting glue all over the place, unfortunately yes. I still have my late 70s road bike I bought as a teenager working at McDonalds and still ride on tubulars.
Thanks for Sharing. I too still ride tubulars. I find the wheels on Ebay at great prices because no one wants them and I put them in service. I just love how they feel.
When I was a kid back in 1977, I remember my Dad gluing his tires to the rim. He was very precise when applying the glue, and he really enjoyed the ride. He had a shiny black Paris Sport, and she was awesome. He wore the knitted Campee gloves with matching floppy hat. He was so cool! But those tires, at those extreme pressures, never let him down. When I ride today on them dam clinchers, I get a flat every 6 weeks! I wish, I was as cool as my Dad.
Your Dad sounds like he definitely was cool and in the know. Not many are comfortable gluing their own tires. You definitely should not be having flats every six weeks, that's very frequent. If the area has a lot of hazards, try adding a tire liner inside your tire to improve your flat prevention and make sure you are unloading the saddle when you go through hazards.
Great video . I'm 76 and great up on tubulars. Stopped using them, when clinchers became lighter . About 4 years ago, I bought a set of Tufo tubulars and sealant. 276 miles later, flat. Stopped again. Got my Mavic Cosmic wheels out and serviced them. Using Tufo tape and Tufo sealant, mounted up some spare Tufo tubulars. But, one more step of security , (as these are tubeless tubulars) I bought a MUC-OFF Stealth Tubeless Puncture plug kit. A very ingenious tool kit. So, if the sealant does seal, the plug will. Also carry 2 air cartridges . If I don't have to call my service car (wife) , I'll ride my Tufo's more. KB.
Thanks for sharing Ken. I carry Stan's no tubes and on longer rides carry a spare tubular. Other than that, by running continental competition tires, I have not had any issues. I do read the road incessantly as I eat up the kilometers. Flats will happen, but man I love the ride of tubular tires.
I got my very first set of tubular wheels about two weeks ago. I've known that they existed since the 90's. Although I haven't ever had the chance to use them. I had no idea how to install tires until watching some YT videos on it. The content here is great. I have bought a new set of Vitoria tires on eBay. I bought valve extensions. I fit the tires on just to stretch them. I bought some tape on eBay too. I plan on trying to install it myself. Thanks.
Here is a quick tip with storing tubes in you saddle bag, You can share later on in your next tire and tube episode. I normally take my spare tubes and I add a pair of nitrile gloves then wrap both together with saran wrap giving the tube and glove combo a nice compact fit that keeps it completely dry and moisture free for better storage. This also cuts down or eliminate any chafing with other items in the saddle bag.
Awesome vid... Thank you...! My story : Today, after being away from bicycling for 40 years, I am going to look at a Motobecane Super Mirage ( late 1970s ) on craigslist. In 1978 when I was 15 years old, I bought a Motorbecane " Mirage "... it was $230.00 . I almost bought the Super Mirage but backed away from it because it had those tubular / sew ups and they freaked me out. The Super Mirage was $265.00 and the main diff was it was a full pound lighter because it had the allow rims with tubular tires vs the Mirage having clinchers.... So, I wanted to educate myself regarding these tires ...and our video was awesome. Thank you so much sir... :-)
I remember learning how to patch sew-ups and then sewing the tubes back up. Of course when I had money I would buy new. The gluing was also challenging to get every everything straight. I seem to remember using 3M black weather adhesive for glue. Barum Czech 240-260 gram tires worked well for me as well as the price. I have not ridden tubs for a couple of decades. Yes I do have a bunch of racing tubular rims and tires in the basement that I built up myself. Ah memories.
Yes. Tubulars are still used but by those who enjoy the quality to the ride and can do their own mounting mostly. I have three sets of usable tubular wheels with Continental Competition tires that I currently use.
I alway stretched my sew-ups on a wheel and also bare rim. The rim supports the tire and keeps it from turning, or rotating outside in and the inside out. High pressure while not on a rim, the sew-up wants to rotate so the tape starts facing toward the outside. Once that happens the tire is pretty much ruined because the base taped part of the tire is badly wrinkled from trying to change to outside tire diameter size. Maybe not the best description, but I'm not going to ruin a good sew up tire to demonstrate in a video. A commenter below talked about preserving tubes in a tightly wrapped sealed plastic bag. I also store every new tire, sew-up and or wired on, that does not get immediately used in large clear garbage bags, then keep fold the excess bag over to seal and keep air from its job of wanting to rot rubber.
TY! I have a circa 1973 crescent racing 10 speed w sew-ups that need replacing. Thought they were no longer made. Now I know I do not have to change my rims.
Great video! I also raced on tubs, spent Winters repairing them, even made $$$ fixing for riders. Still have a wheelsets for my trackbike & vintage 1972 Swiss Crescent racer for L'Eroica rides. But yes I miss the ride quality on my newer bikes. I'm considering a modern carbon sewup wheelset, my only issue should I go with rim or disc.
Flatting a Sewup: a good one in Film is in the movie American Flyers here on the You Tube, Kevin Costner needs a wheel change after it pops for the camera onto the Rim, Rae Dawn Chong switches him in 8 Seconds !!
I used to race on tubular tires, nearly 60 years ago. I ended up buying expensive tubulars, where the fabric of the outer casing was made of silk. I could repair them, by slitting open the stitching, patching the tube, then sewing them back up. I have wondered about going back to tubulars, and with the modern tech you discussed, that could be an option. But it would mean shelling out on a new set of wheels. :-((
Bingo Robert, that's what made me just order a set of used alloys tubular wheels at an amazing price on eBay to start using them once again, that and the availability of double sided tape...no more gluing. I have missed the ride of tubulars and now can carry 2oz of sealant with a spare tubular and be set. Better choices now.
Tubeless just isn't there yet with all the mismatching. The rimtape is so damn awful tons of manufacturers have fully sealed rims without spoke holes. Apart from ductape i never found anything to be good enough to have long term. And the foam inserts to prevent denting mtb rims is just a bridge too far in my opinion, especially since those have fitting issue's aswell depending on the brand. Tubs are starting to creap back slowly these days, despite the corporate push for tubeless. Tubeless seems more of a cashcow that's getting milked for all it's worth. The same goes for sealants. Most, if not all are garbage compared to ride on.
This the best explanation of tubulars i have seen on youtube, and brings back some great memories. Attaching my share with a used toe clip strap, check; performing surgery on a flat tubular because i could not afford a new new one, done it; getting glue all over the place, unfortunately yes. I still have my late 70s road bike I bought as a teenager working at McDonalds and still ride on tubulars.
Thanks for Sharing. I too still ride tubulars. I find the wheels on Ebay at great prices because no one wants them and I put them in service. I just love how they feel.
When I was a kid back in 1977, I remember my Dad gluing his tires to the rim. He was very precise when applying the glue, and he really enjoyed the ride. He had a shiny black Paris Sport, and she was awesome. He wore the knitted Campee gloves with matching floppy hat. He was so cool! But those tires, at those extreme pressures, never let him down. When I ride today on them dam clinchers, I get a flat every 6 weeks! I wish, I was as cool as my Dad.
Your Dad sounds like he definitely was cool and in the know. Not many are comfortable gluing their own tires. You definitely should not be having flats every six weeks, that's very frequent. If the area has a lot of hazards, try adding a tire liner inside your tire to improve your flat prevention and make sure you are unloading the saddle when you go through hazards.
Great video . I'm 76 and great up on tubulars. Stopped using them, when clinchers became lighter . About 4 years ago, I bought a set of Tufo tubulars and sealant. 276 miles later, flat. Stopped again. Got my Mavic Cosmic wheels out and serviced them. Using Tufo tape and Tufo sealant, mounted up some spare Tufo tubulars. But, one more step of security , (as these are tubeless tubulars) I bought a MUC-OFF Stealth Tubeless Puncture plug kit. A very ingenious tool kit. So, if the sealant does seal, the plug will. Also carry 2 air cartridges . If I don't have to call my service car (wife) , I'll ride my Tufo's more. KB.
Thanks for sharing Ken. I carry Stan's no tubes and on longer rides carry a spare tubular. Other than that, by running continental competition tires, I have not had any issues. I do read the road incessantly as I eat up the kilometers. Flats will happen, but man I love the ride of tubular tires.
I got my very first set of tubular wheels about two weeks ago. I've known that they existed since the 90's. Although I haven't ever had the chance to use them. I had no idea how to install tires until watching some YT videos on it. The content here is great. I have bought a new set of Vitoria tires on eBay. I bought valve extensions. I fit the tires on just to stretch them. I bought some tape on eBay too. I plan on trying to install it myself. Thanks.
Thanks for sharing!
Here is a quick tip with storing tubes in you saddle bag, You can share later on in your next tire and tube episode. I normally take my spare tubes and I add a pair of nitrile gloves then wrap both together with saran wrap giving the tube and glove combo a nice compact fit that keeps it completely dry and moisture free for better storage. This also cuts down or eliminate any chafing with other items in the saddle bag.
Thanks for the info!
Awesome vid... Thank you...! My story : Today, after being away from bicycling for 40 years, I am going to look at a Motobecane Super Mirage ( late 1970s ) on craigslist. In 1978 when I was 15 years old, I bought a Motorbecane " Mirage "... it was $230.00 . I almost bought the Super Mirage but backed away from it because it had those tubular / sew ups and they freaked me out. The Super Mirage was $265.00 and the main diff was it was a full pound lighter because it had the allow rims with tubular tires vs the Mirage having clinchers.... So, I wanted to educate myself regarding these tires ...and our video was awesome. Thank you so much sir... :-)
You're welcome. Good Luck with the Motobecane..they're good value bikes.
@@Veloharmony :-)
I remember learning how to patch sew-ups and then sewing the tubes back up. Of course when I had money I would buy new. The gluing was also challenging to get every everything straight. I seem to remember using 3M black weather adhesive for glue. Barum Czech 240-260 gram tires worked well for me as well as the price. I have not ridden tubs for a couple of decades. Yes I do have a bunch of racing tubular rims and tires in the basement that I built up myself. Ah memories.
Yes. Tubulars are still used but by those who enjoy the quality to the ride and can do their own mounting mostly. I have three sets of usable tubular wheels with Continental Competition tires that I currently use.
I alway stretched my sew-ups on a wheel and also bare rim. The rim supports the tire and keeps it from turning, or rotating outside in and the inside out. High pressure while not on a rim, the sew-up wants to rotate so the tape starts facing toward the outside. Once that happens the tire is pretty much ruined because the base taped part of the tire is badly wrinkled from trying to change to outside tire diameter size. Maybe not the best description, but I'm not going to ruin a good sew up tire to demonstrate in a video. A commenter below talked about preserving tubes in a tightly wrapped sealed plastic bag. I also store every new tire, sew-up and or wired on, that does not get immediately used in large clear garbage bags, then keep fold the excess bag over to seal and keep air from its job of wanting to rot rubber.
This was an excellent very informative video, I learnt so much in a very short space of time. Thank you so much. Subbed!! 👍🏻
Welcome aboard
Nice video , very informative .
Glad it was helpful Richard!
TY! I have a circa 1973 crescent racing 10 speed w sew-ups that need replacing. Thought they were no longer made. Now I know I do not have to change my rims.
You're welcome Kat. Sew-ups are widely available and used by cyclists the world over.
Thanks very informative review, I’ve been wondering about the tire difference.
Glad it was helpful!
Excellent content!👍🏽
Glad you enjoyed it
Great video! I also raced on tubs, spent Winters repairing them, even made $$$ fixing for riders. Still have a wheelsets for my trackbike & vintage 1972 Swiss Crescent racer for L'Eroica rides. But yes I miss the ride quality on my newer bikes. I'm considering a modern carbon sewup wheelset, my only issue should I go with rim or disc.
Sounds great!
Flatting a Sewup: a good one in Film is in the movie American Flyers here on the You Tube, Kevin Costner needs a wheel change after it pops for the camera onto the Rim, Rae Dawn Chong switches him in 8 Seconds !!
I used to race on tubular tires, nearly 60 years ago. I ended up buying expensive tubulars, where the fabric of the outer casing was made of silk. I could repair them, by slitting open the stitching, patching the tube, then sewing them back up. I have wondered about going back to tubulars, and with the modern tech you discussed, that could be an option. But it would mean shelling out on a new set of wheels. :-((
@@aaron___6014 Thanks, Aaron. But I've just this afternoon bought a new set of clincher wheels.
Just bought a used set of Zipp 404 carbon tubulars for approx USD $300👌. Taping on new Continental Giro 22mm gum walls tonight👍🏽
Thanks for sharing this Eldred! What wheelset is that? I'm looking for one like that, alloy vintage look!
array alloy on velocity hubs.
@@Veloharmony 👍
Having the sealant for flats might be the thing to make sew ups practical.
Bingo Robert, that's what made me just order a set of used alloys tubular wheels at an amazing price on eBay to start using them once again, that and the availability of double sided tape...no more gluing. I have missed the ride of tubulars and now can carry 2oz of sealant with a spare tubular and be set. Better choices now.
@@Veloharmony even better is to add 30ml of sealant into the tyre when installed, then it will seal itself while rolling...
Tubeless just isn't there yet with all the mismatching. The rimtape is so damn awful tons of manufacturers have fully sealed rims without spoke holes. Apart from ductape i never found anything to be good enough to have long term. And the foam inserts to prevent denting mtb rims is just a bridge too far in my opinion, especially since those have fitting issue's aswell depending on the brand.
Tubs are starting to creap back slowly these days, despite the corporate push for tubeless. Tubeless seems more of a cashcow that's getting milked for all it's worth.
The same goes for sealants. Most, if not all are garbage compared to ride on.
Think you should make shorter video but I like them but too long
The videos are made to cover the topic, time is insignificant. Glad you found the channel.