Turbo props run at or near 100% RPMs. When you hear the engine noise change and you see the tail shaking like he’s throttling up . all the pilots doing when he actually moves the throttle is changing the pitch of the blades so they bite more air.
@@wafflesnfalafel1 The vision on that emmpenage bouncing around like this video shows was one of the things going through my head as we waited for the car to finally fire…. Full power from those Allison’s was something to behold. VAW-126 USS Eisenhower.
The pilot doesn’t change the pitch on the blades. The throttle controls fuel flow. The prop governor changes the pitch of the blades to maintain a constant prop RPM. More throttle, or power levers, more fuel and torque increases. This is opposite of a turbine powered helicopter. In a helicopter collective pitch changes the pitch of the blades and the fuel control meters fuel to maintain a constant rotor RPM. I was Navy helicopter pilot and flew H-1, H-2, C-12 and C-20. I was watching this video because my dad flew the E-2A/B with VAW-112/113.
True fact, early in it's development,the Hawkeye had so many problems and wasn't very reliable,and gone way over budget,that the navy came very close to canceling the aircraft and looking at other alternatives,luckily, they decided to stick with it and try to work out the problems,decades later,they made the right choice.
I was able to go a short trip on the USS Kitty Hawk many years ago. They did an air show while they were underway. They had a couple of E-2s on the flight deck. You could feel them as much as you heard them.
Well, there wasn't much advance to the enemies systems. They're still searching for 4th gen fighters most of the time. Only now China is stepping up with 4.5th and 5th gen. But by the time a plane is made and flying, would have taken 10yrs to develop it. Some are also due to budget constraints as the usaf and navy still have semi analog planes flying
I may be wrong here, but I suspect these are new Hawkeyes being delivered to the fleet. Boing field is where Boeing performs finals test flights for aircraft like the 737 and has painting facilities etc. That's my 2 cents
@@tylerouimette2934 No, they were parked at the executive FBO not the Boeing ramps which are on the other side where the filmer is. The US mil sometimes call in for an hour for lunch and sandwiches before flying on.
It better be able to shake!!! Otherwise is would fall off. I spent 37 years in Bethpage helping built that pots and pans aircraft. That’s what we called it. I saw a landing in st aug where the MLG blew a tire. The navy pilot taxed it to the Hanger. I thought the empennage was going to fall off🤣
When I see those tail feathers shake like they’re paper mache, I can’t help but question the structural design and wonder about fatigue cracks and imagine some future accident report indicating the entire empennage “departed the airframe.”
Don’t fret my pet!!! It’s not call “ Gruesome Iron Works” for nothing! That aircraft like anything else Grumman has designed and built are very well put together. The shaking is simply the effects of the prop wash over the airframe and control surfaces, they subside after OFF BRAKES and the takeoff roll begins. Those two Allison T56 engines NP2000 Hamilton Sunstrand propellers due the heavy lifting with ease.👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽
Worked on the E-2 Program at Grumman for thirty-seven years and decided to check back with retired Structural Engineers and Mechanics familiar with the Empennage to Fuselage attachment points, their comments: 1. "Yes the empennage is held on with 4 bolts, when I started in 1984 I was told the airplane is built the way it is to flex because each landing on a carrier is a controlled crash. "Never remember any problems in that area. 2. "It was engineered to allow it to flex as opposed to rigid and creating cracking problems. Impressive engineering by the Grumman Ironworks!
I also worked there for 37 years and just retired on this program. It’s been in continuous production since about 1960, it does a controlled crash everytime it lands on a Carrier Deck, it’s one of the US Navy’s most important programs and it’s still the only asset that can fill the mission so I’d say Grumman knows what they are doing!!
The second E2 climbs like a homesick angel. Thanks for this video.
VAW-113 Black Eagles was my first squadron. Nice to see them again.
GO NAVY.
I used to work across the airport miss seeing all of the military jets and planes taking off
I was 10 ft. from one of those when the carrier was in San Pedro and open for public tours a few months ago. On the deck was a F-35, F-18 and the E-2D
Sound of freedom!
Turbo props run at or near 100% RPMs. When you hear the engine noise change and you see the tail shaking like he’s throttling up . all the pilots doing when he actually moves the throttle is changing the pitch of the blades so they bite more air.
I worked on P-3s 50 years ago and we called them power levers not throttles.
that tail sure does bounce around a bit, maybe composite?
@@wafflesnfalafel1
The vision on that emmpenage bouncing around like this video shows was one of the things going through my head as we waited for the car to finally fire…. Full power from those Allison’s was something to behold.
VAW-126 USS Eisenhower.
The pilot doesn’t change the pitch on the blades. The throttle controls fuel flow. The prop governor changes the pitch of the blades to maintain a constant prop RPM. More throttle, or power levers, more fuel and torque increases. This is opposite of a turbine powered helicopter. In a helicopter collective pitch changes the pitch of the blades and the fuel control meters fuel to maintain a constant rotor RPM. I was Navy helicopter pilot and flew H-1, H-2, C-12 and C-20. I was watching this video because my dad flew the E-2A/B with VAW-112/113.
@@Chris_at_HomeThat’s Mighty P3!!!!! Every time a P3 would end its takeoff roll and rotate, a submarine captain would get sick!!!!
She's a beast for sure.
I'm surprised how much flex is in the tail section!
Here's a roll of flex seal it'll be fine
love to ride in 1 and see 1 in person
SWEET!
There is a reason our navy is the best in the world by far. People, technology and ideology.
Latest upgrade include a fuel probe.
True fact, early in it's development,the Hawkeye had so many problems and wasn't very reliable,and gone way over budget,that the navy came very close to canceling the aircraft and looking at other alternatives,luckily, they decided to stick with it and try to work out the problems,decades later,they made the right choice.
A Swarm of Bees . . .
I was PN3 USS FOX (DLG-33) in the Navy way back in 1969. What we said then and appropriate now............ "Well done." ☮
@dfwspotter PLEASE do a video on the Grumman A6E Intruder !
We had the B models on our carrier. Awesome aircraft. Love to have one done up for civilian use. These are very nice and fast enough.
nice video
What is that installation on the top behind the cockpit? Kinda looks like it might be an auxiliary power unit?
It’s the intake for the Vapor Cycle Cooling System. Keeps all that cool stuff inside cool.
I was able to go a short trip on the USS Kitty Hawk many years ago. They did an air show while they were underway. They had a couple of E-2s on the flight deck. You could feel them as much as you heard them.
I love driving on I-5 and seeing the 777X parked and liked even more working in the Port of Seattle watching them come in for landing 200ft above us
The crazy part is the C model was so good It took over 40 years for there being a need to replace it with the D model.😂
Well, there wasn't much advance to the enemies systems. They're still searching for 4th gen fighters most of the time. Only now China is stepping up with 4.5th and 5th gen. But by the time a plane is made and flying, would have taken 10yrs to develop it. Some are also due to budget constraints as the usaf and navy still have semi analog planes flying
Mostly due to lack of drive and competition
But She still get’s the job done pretty fine
“Snapper…secondary only…”
Just about every god damn day. And this was 10+ years ago. Those airplanes needed to be replaced a long time ago.
Have to admit, it's the first time I've noticed the refuelling probes on the E2Cs, I haven't seen them on many.
That’s because those were D’s
E-2C's didn't have refueling probes.
Straight up
“Positive what?!” GEAR IS ALREADY UP
God bless you and protect you ❤
Used to work on the C model I'm that old
Sounds like a quieter version of the Europrop TP400-D6 turboprop engine driving the Ratier-Figeac eight-bladed propellers on the Airbus A400M Atlas.
We did some sheetmetal parts for that aircraft.
P-3 pilots will tell you those two P-3s took off in formation.😄
Do E-2s still need huffers to start their engines?
Yes
Yep, the good old MSU-200 is still required to start up the E-2D.
there at that field for com / nav integration work ? - watch that tail wobble at throttle up. 🇺🇸
I may be wrong here, but I suspect these are new Hawkeyes being delivered to the fleet. Boing field is where Boeing performs finals test flights for aircraft like the 737 and has painting facilities etc. That's my 2 cents
@@tylerouimette2934 - unknown here, sweet video however. 🇺🇸
it’s been in non-stop continuous production since about 1960.
@@tylerouimette2934 No, they were parked at the executive FBO not the Boeing ramps which are on the other side where the filmer is. The US mil sometimes call in for an hour for lunch and sandwiches before flying on.
@wagmiorngmi A quick Google search shows that these are indeed brand new E2Ds by registration number.
Does not need to be the new ones it can be the old ones but at least two of them
Tail assembly looked a little shaky to me…
It better be able to shake!!! Otherwise is would fall off. I spent 37 years in Bethpage helping built that pots and pans aircraft. That’s what we called it. I saw a landing in st aug where the MLG blew a tire. The navy pilot taxed it to the Hanger. I thought the empennage was going to fall off🤣
Next stop …landing on a pitching aircraft carrier…amazing
Nope. They're headed straight into NAS Point Mugu, CA.
When I see those tail feathers shake like they’re paper mache, I can’t help but question the structural design and wonder about fatigue cracks and imagine some future accident report indicating the entire empennage “departed the airframe.”
Don’t fret my pet!!! It’s not call “ Gruesome Iron Works” for nothing! That aircraft like anything else Grumman has designed and built are very well put together. The shaking is simply the effects of the prop wash over the airframe and control surfaces, they subside after OFF BRAKES and the takeoff roll begins. Those two Allison T56 engines NP2000 Hamilton Sunstrand propellers due the heavy lifting with ease.👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽
So you basically say you have no clue about structure design and engineering.
Worked on the E-2 Program at Grumman for thirty-seven years and decided to check back with retired Structural Engineers and Mechanics familiar with the
Empennage to Fuselage attachment points, their comments: 1. "Yes the empennage is held on with 4 bolts, when I started in 1984 I was told the airplane is built the way it is to flex because each landing on a carrier is a controlled crash. "Never remember any problems in that area. 2. "It was engineered to allow it to flex as opposed to rigid and creating cracking problems. Impressive engineering by the Grumman Ironworks!
I also worked there for 37 years and just retired on this program. It’s been in continuous production since about 1960, it does a controlled crash everytime it lands on a Carrier Deck, it’s one of the US Navy’s most important programs and it’s still the only asset that can fill the mission so I’d say Grumman knows what they are doing!!
Worked airframe in 81 to 84, never had a problem with the tail section other than trying to change out bushings during D checks.
Needs to be upgraded or new plane would be better.
It is both. These are new build aircraft. Not old gutted out upgrades!