Are Giant Space Orchids the Most Star Trek Thing Ever? (Trek, Actually Comment Responses)

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  • @JessieGender1
    @JessieGender1 4 роки тому +38

    As a fellow video making human, The first 60 seconds of this video are the most relatable thing ever.

  • @evrimkaya8420
    @evrimkaya8420 4 роки тому +80

    i like these 'not actually' videos but no worries, I like the scripted ones way better. BOOM! positive reinforcement!

    • @artstsym
      @artstsym 2 роки тому +1

      Nope, you muddied the waters too much, Steve's moving to Fortnite now.

  • @Spike-Prime
    @Spike-Prime 4 роки тому +84

    I feel like Steve missed one of the earlier and more well written things for Keiko, that of her as a school teacher. It didn't seem like much, but her education sub-plots were surprisingly engaging. Plus, her teachings on the wormhole and its alien inhabitants (Prophets to the Bajorans) but her in direct conflict with one of the show's main frienemy/antagonist/villains, Kai Winn. That was some solid writing and showed her strong will and intelligence.

    • @tamasszabo6145
      @tamasszabo6145 4 роки тому +5

      He do a whole video about this.

    • @bjturon
      @bjturon 4 роки тому +6

      I enjoyed those too, Keikio had a great part in the last episode of the first season of DS9.

    • @brianadams8136
      @brianadams8136 4 роки тому +4

      Oh yeah, I'm with you there, a whole video on Keiko would be great. Seriously though, why isn't there a real-life psychologist/psychiatrist Trekkie who analyzes Star Trek characters and does definitive 30 mins thesis videos using episode plots, scenes and quotes to illustrate the reasoning behind the analyses

    • @marialanier6155
      @marialanier6155 Рік тому +1

      What about RoLaren,, she was a great character that was underused. Her and Picard scene was pure gold when they butted heads.

  • @Galvion1980
    @Galvion1980 4 роки тому +88

    That bit about women and PoC being inherently political is as accurate as it is depressing.

    • @MLBlue30
      @MLBlue30 4 роки тому +26

      Basically, if you are not a white American male, you are political.

    • @KennyTew2
      @KennyTew2 4 роки тому +13

      MLBlue30 it’s pretty pathetic how easily triggered the wingnut snowflakes are. I think they’ve always been like it but sadly these days they feel empowered to spew their bile.

    • @ThePorpoisepower
      @ThePorpoisepower 4 роки тому +9

      Exactly, if there weren't people who saw it as political is the reason it's a political issue. If we had true equality then there would be nothing remarkable.

    • @tyrongkojy
      @tyrongkojy 4 роки тому +12

      Do not forget gays. I just heard Angry Joe say that simply having a trans woman as a playable character in last of us 2 is political. Just HAVING them.

    • @kaitlyn__L
      @kaitlyn__L 4 роки тому +1

      @@zvign7554 👍

  • @rokkenrobyn6462
    @rokkenrobyn6462 4 роки тому +108

    Worf and Jadzia: Was our marriage a joke to you?
    ALEXANDER!!!!’

    • @occultatumquaestio5226
      @occultatumquaestio5226 4 роки тому +18

      Not to mention also; Kirk had a son until he was killed in Star Trek 3, Sulu had a family, Riker and Troy had been married since Nemesis, Spock had an ex-fiance, Janeway also had an ex-fiance, Rom and Leeta are married. There are probably more I may be forgetting.

    • @eme.261
      @eme.261 4 роки тому +1

      I was thinking the SAME thing!

    • @Closer2Zero
      @Closer2Zero 4 роки тому +11

      The Overlooked Family of Star Trek that -I- Overlooked. Maybe he's doing this on purpose so he can make more videos! How DARE he make more content i enjoy.

    • @rob4canada
      @rob4canada 4 роки тому +7

      Tom Paris and B'elanna Torres get married and have a daughter. Phlox on Enterprise had three wives.

    • @justinvenable917
      @justinvenable917 4 роки тому +4

      Doctor Beverly also failed to get a mention.

  • @jessewilley531
    @jessewilley531 4 роки тому +46

    Starfleet couldn't put Jarati on trial without exposing that their entire security division was a Tal Shiar puppet.

    • @andromidius
      @andromidius 4 роки тому +11

      Plus it may be expanded upon later in season two. Its possible it'll be classified and she'll receive an unofficial pardon due to extenuating reasons (being coerced, thinking she was following orders and then helping to save the entire galaxy!) and be allowed to either stay with Picard or return home to restart the synthetics division on Earth (since she is the leading scientist. Within Starfleet, of course).

    • @alphalancer
      @alphalancer 4 роки тому +1

      @andromidius
      Nice thought! I could see Jurati being given a choice between house arrest on Earth or semi-exile on La Sirena as a significantly less severe sentence for the mitigating circumstances surrounding the murder.

    • @jameslancaster6365
      @jameslancaster6365 4 роки тому

      Building on that, There's Rios' captain... and how many others, who got similar orders? What about the crew that didn't turn any people in? (I apologize, I don't remember if Rios did or not, or the time frame before his suicide.)

    • @Kameth
      @Kameth 4 роки тому +6

      She might be able to use temporary insanity as a defense, considering what was done to her regarding her mind meld. The full blast of the beacon was enough to drive multiple Romulans to suicide, and secondary exposure enough to put a Borg cube on Windows Safe Mode.

    • @Danny_Trent
      @Danny_Trent 4 роки тому +1

      @@Kameth I laughed way harder than I should have on the Borg one. Well played.

  • @eme.261
    @eme.261 4 роки тому +59

    Brilliant episode of "Not Actually Trek, Actually." I so enjoy when Steve goes salty. He's far sweeter in those instances than I would be.

  • @255ad
    @255ad 4 роки тому +58

    Also Tom Paris and B'Elanna Torres
    got married

    • @andromidius
      @andromidius 4 роки тому +11

      And Worf and Dax. Trip and T'pol. Damar and Dukat are also both married men, though we never see either of their families.
      Oh! And Rom and Leeta!

    • @tsukikage
      @tsukikage 4 роки тому +4

      Also Worf and Jadzia.

    • @jrbaskind
      @jrbaskind 4 роки тому +1

      255ad and had a baby.

    • @deepspacenibby
      @deepspacenibby 4 роки тому +3

      @@LorenceLinzWrightwoo yes! She had a fiance named Mark haha

    • @Astrostevo
      @Astrostevo 4 роки тому

      @@LorenceLinzWrightwoo Yes, I think so.

  • @LivelyPaint
    @LivelyPaint 4 роки тому +26

    tbh the giant space orchids felt more like classic Trek 60s weirdness than anything we've seen in the franchise since TNG

    • @haleffect9011
      @haleffect9011 4 роки тому +1

      What about giant space crystals that zap people through space?

    • @fernandanogales4824
      @fernandanogales4824 4 роки тому +5

      Do not forget the space jellies from TNG pilot

    • @justinaclayburn2248
      @justinaclayburn2248 3 роки тому

      @@fernandanogales4824 And they were pink and blue so you knew they were a boy-girl couple.

    • @thebacons5943
      @thebacons5943 3 роки тому +1

      “This Side of Paradise” season one TOS

    • @jmcdhome
      @jmcdhome 3 роки тому

      When I first saw the title I thought it was about the old series the episode with the flowers that spit out the spores that make you all docile and carefree.

  • @DrNickAG
    @DrNickAG 4 роки тому +33

    Chief O'Brien is the only enlisted person in Star Fleet

    • @kbrock9146
      @kbrock9146 4 роки тому +4

      It's been a while since I watch ST:VOY, but didn't the Maquis get enlisted rank when incorporated into the crew?

    • @shawnwales696
      @shawnwales696 4 роки тому

      At least the only one we actually get to know.

  • @jackbuggs9339
    @jackbuggs9339 4 роки тому +73

    Ummmm, Worf had a “home life” on both TNG and DS9.

    • @ArgonTheAware
      @ArgonTheAware 4 роки тому +12

      They showed his relationship with his son on both shows plus with how he courted and married Jadzia

    • @jasontodd9
      @jasontodd9 4 роки тому +5

      @@ArgonTheAware Well, that's what Steve gets for not preparing I guess. He forgot Worf, Jadzia, and Alexander.

    • @kbrock9146
      @kbrock9146 4 роки тому +8

      And his adoptive parents? A whole episode about them and talking about his childhood.

    • @tammikilpi6993
      @tammikilpi6993 4 роки тому +7

      Not to derail but i do wish we had had more of Alexander in DS9. I think the idea of this artistic klingon who sin't good at fighting or other traditionallynklingon things, doesn't fit in well, who still looks for his (very traditionally klingon) dad's approval but doesn't really seem to get it, is very compelling (and, not to make me being an sjw too apparent but I kinda think he and Worf in the episode Sons And Daughters had a very 90's tv "gay son and a military/law enforcement father" dynamic, that I, as a gay person with a kinda traditional father, find very relatable)
      I think there would have been story oppoturnities for him, but thr fact that they mentiom him twice in the 7 seasons of the show, just makes Worf a kind of a Shit Dad (or even worse than he was in tng)

    • @dawnday2666
      @dawnday2666 4 роки тому +2

      Don’t forget Tom Paris and B’Larna Torres too

  • @ThePoxun
    @ThePoxun 4 роки тому +36

    The thing with Jurati... I feel that once the delusion caused by the mind meld was properly uncovered the whole murder thing was pushed into the "alien influence" thing which in several cases throughout all of the franchise has time and again been used to give both main and one time characters a pass for bad behaviour because it 'wasn't really them'.. That might make a good normal Actually video... "The biggest crimes committed by starfleet officers they were never punished for"

    • @Nickman826
      @Nickman826 4 роки тому +2

      Garak was (rightfully) forgiven mostly Scott free for going all Mike Meyers on people in DS9 as he was the victim of some Cardassian bioengineered virus.

    • @RandallJamesPeterson
      @RandallJamesPeterson 4 роки тому +1

      Jurati did declare to assist Soong in penance for killing Maddox. In the place that was Maddox's home world and the people he would most likely consider family. She was judged by the place that had the best jurisdiction. The ship where the murder occurred was in "International Waters/Space", seems to be crewed primarily of Federation citizens, so Federation courts would have been the jurisdiction until the synth home world was recognized diplomatically.

    • @Kameth
      @Kameth 4 роки тому +2

      As much as I love Sisko, he certainly committed war crimes chasing Eddington. I always figured he never suffered consequences because considering the players at the time a.) the Cardassians wouldn't care and may of approved a tit for tat bio weapon strike, b.) Starfleet and the Federation might want to sweep it under the rug quickly as they never were 100% rational regarding the Marquis - for an self described 'enlightened' culture, they seemed to take the Marquis' breakaway very personally, and Starfleet officers occasionally jumping ship as very embarrassing and politically problematic.

  • @YourLocalNebraskan
    @YourLocalNebraskan 4 роки тому +28

    I was introduced to Trek as a kid. Now many years later it's one of three main aspects of my personality

    • @KayleighBourquin
      @KayleighBourquin 4 роки тому +3

      What are the other two?

    • @YourLocalNebraskan
      @YourLocalNebraskan 4 роки тому +3

      Kayleigh Bourquin, Rooster Teeth & Marching Band (and bonus: Midwestern Nice™)

    • @grasssoda9586
      @grasssoda9586 4 роки тому +2

      Same it's hard to make friends at my age (15) because of it, no one my age is into Star Trek these days

    • @MLBlue30
      @MLBlue30 4 роки тому +3

      @@grasssoda9586 it's fine. Trek was never meant to be "cool". I was in the midst of TNG, DS9, and Voyager when they were new and I was never considered cool for being a Trekkie. Then again there was a sci-fi club after school I might have enjoyed but I kind of hated high school and didn't want to be there more than I had to.

  • @fallgirl07
    @fallgirl07 4 роки тому +44

    A character who has a family mentioned and that actually impacts their personality and choices is B'Elanna Torres (my favorite character tbh). She spends the entire series blaming her personality issues on her Klingon heritage and hating them and her mother all because she didn't know how to process her human father abandoning her. Even to the point where she wants to genetically alter her unborn daughter's DNA so that she is less Klingon because she thinks Tom would be like her father and leave them.

    • @Beacuzz
      @Beacuzz 4 роки тому +2

      Weird thought I had recently about that. What the doc did is barely legal in the federation (genetic manipulation) but what she was planning is straight up illegal. (Genetic augmentation) (I know their is a more accurate word I just can't find it right now) if she did it and they got back she could be put in jail

    • @AngelaRyanXX
      @AngelaRyanXX 4 роки тому +1

      That was one asshole father.

    • @tixxoncraft
      @tixxoncraft Рік тому +1

      @@Beacuzz No genetic Augmentation is the word, augments come from it

  • @gonzoengineering4894
    @gonzoengineering4894 4 роки тому +9

    O'Brien didn't just get one significant other, he also had Bashir

  • @thomasaxtell6948
    @thomasaxtell6948 4 роки тому +9

    One thing that strikes me as odd is that they could transfer Picards consciousness in to a hastily prepared synth body but they left Data alone in computer memory until he longed for death.

  • @HarryMudd
    @HarryMudd 4 роки тому +18

    Don't forget the TOS-episode "Shore Leave", where Bones meets the white rabbit and Alice from "Alice in Wonderland", and Kirk meets Finnegan (an old acquaintance from Kirks academy days). Very silly episode 😆

    • @arbjbornk
      @arbjbornk 4 роки тому +3

      Or the giant space jellyfish in "Encounter at Farpoint".

    • @CanadianFabe
      @CanadianFabe 4 роки тому +2

      @@arbjbornk yup some silliness right out of the gate there.

  • @canundrumsixnine6830
    @canundrumsixnine6830 4 роки тому +49

    Space Orchids, Most definitely do belong in Star Trek. We are talking about a show with Planet Killing Cannoli's and Planet sized Space Jellyfish. Yes, IMHO GIant Space Orchids are assuredly Star Trek.

    • @varanasiwalks1451
      @varanasiwalks1451 4 роки тому +8

      and the Greek God Apollo. For the love of Dennis, there was an episode where the Greek God Apollo manifested a giant green hand and grasped the Enterprise so firmly, but so gently, the Enterprise never forgot that day.

    • @barneyrubble4293
      @barneyrubble4293 4 роки тому +4

      Space orchids and wokeness don't bother me, the gaping plotholes, shallow story, uninspired acting, explosions for the sake of explosions, wasted characters and bad retcons bother me

    • @solarisone1082
      @solarisone1082 4 роки тому +3

      @@barneyrubble4293: You must be talking about Discovery, 'cause I didn't see much of that in Picard.

    • @JosephDavies
      @JosephDavies 4 роки тому

      @@barneyrubble4293 Same.

    • @maximeteppe7627
      @maximeteppe7627 4 роки тому

      @@solarisone1082 I think the borg being killed by vacuum felt like unnecessary retcon... lots of other small stuff that doesn't matter all that much, but more importantly, the jad vash having the means they have doesn't gel well with the romulans being refugees... it's not necessarily contradictory but it warrants some explanation.
      One way to deal with it would have been t make the jad vash vulcan dissidents, which is not completely new to canon at least since discovery.

  • @TheDanEdwards
    @TheDanEdwards 4 роки тому +27

    As only a pedant will care: the image of the giant "orchids" in Picard did not at all look like orchids. Orchid flowers have certain characteristics that differentiate them from other divisions of the monocots. If anything, the giant flowers looked more like Liliales

    • @Nickman826
      @Nickman826 4 роки тому +9

      Therefore giant lilies are the most Star Trek Thing ever

  • @chaneafs
    @chaneafs 4 роки тому +59

    The thing I love about Star Trek is that every Star Trek series is it's own thing. They are all different shows with their own plots/theme/feelings/look. I don't want a new show that just like TNG, because we got 7 season of TNG. The fact that Discovery and Picard are their own shows and their own take on the universe of Star Trek is a strength, not a weakness. And let us not forget, that EVERY incarnation of Trek past TOS has been met with criticism for not being 'just like' whatever trek had come before. TNG was roasted for not being TOS, DS9 was especially ripped apart by some fans for being the first show Gene Roddenberry had no input on (and doing things that he outright objected too; conflict between main characters for example). Same goes for Voyager, Enterprise, and now Discovery and Picard. People always seem to forget that they are all Star Trek, but they are all very different versions of Star Trek. And all of us are entitled to enjoy them or not, as we see fit.

    • @fisk0
      @fisk0 4 роки тому +6

      Yeah, like, despite being set around the same time they went out of their way to make TNG, DS9 and Voyager look different, with different uniform designs and even different looking warp cores. How much should that reasonably have changed over the maybe 10-15 years that sets the beginning of TNG apart from the end of Voyager?

  • @kbrock9146
    @kbrock9146 4 роки тому +10

    As I get older, I find that the "problem" with enduring franchises like "Star Trek", is that you have multiple shows, created at various times, with different casts, representing a myriad of themes, and a lot of the basic public can't marry the realization that "Star Trek, the franchise" as a long game will always vary in the short term, series to series. Sci-fi has always been a way to address issues within society, and "Star Trek" is no different.
    What is different are WHICH issues are being addressed in the different series', and how.... i.e. Vietnam War in TOS vs "The War on Terrorism" in DS9, but there has always been SOMETHING being addressed in Star Trek, and there always will be.
    The show was "punched up" to appease the sensors back in the 60s (The Cage vs Where No Man Has Gone Before), and now, there is less of a need to hide any message within the framework of the story. Now you can just write a very good script and let it do the work. But people seem to forget about how each of these series' fit into the long tradition of Trek; they seem to forget the society that these shows came from and were inspired from.
    It would be interesting to see what the argument will be in another 60 years from now, but like the one person already pointed out, that's the future, and we'll all be dead anyway.... 😆

  • @IrisIrisIris29
    @IrisIrisIris29 4 роки тому +21

    Maybe Space Orchids weren't absurd ENOUGH to class as "The Most Star Trek Thing Ever" for Mr Scalf? :D

    • @alphalancer
      @alphalancer 4 роки тому +4

      Too true: they come nowhere close to Tom Paris and Janeway evolving into salamanders and having babies after traveling at Warp 10.

    • @fisk0
      @fisk0 4 роки тому +2

      Yeah, did they even have mind controlling spores like the ones we see in the TOS episode "This Side of Paradise"? How can we can space faring plants "the most star trek thing ever" if they don't emit spores that can only be defeated by intense emotions?

  • @DaleRibbons
    @DaleRibbons 4 роки тому +5

    Yeoman Rand's first appearance onscreen wasn't in 'Charlie X', but in 'The Man Trap', the first episode that aired.

  • @0megasight
    @0megasight Рік тому +3

    I like to think that the reason Uhura was able to speedrun relearning everything is that her memories weren’t actually erased, they were just made difficult to access, and she just needed some reminders of how to do things and her life came back to her pretty quickly

  • @TheTaoist71
    @TheTaoist71 4 роки тому +5

    Hey Steve, keep up giving a voice to us Trek fans who see the mirror Trek puts before our society throughout the years. Even though we've never met in the TRW, you've become and will always be my friend. 🖖

  • @MultiStormywaters
    @MultiStormywaters 4 роки тому +37

    "Get woke go broke"
    Which is why original series trek was cancelled after one season and never heard from again. Oh, wait, no. In this fictional reality, when the episode "To Set It Right" of the Lieutenant didn't air, Roddenberry realized there was no profit in his wokeness and never even made trek.

  • @tamasszabo6145
    @tamasszabo6145 4 роки тому +4

    Unscripted videos are like a conversation in my head. Which is actually more comfortable and fun to watch sometimes. But here is a positive reinfocements, your scipted videos are great! Heck, they can be so great and funny, and deep, some people need so much focus and intellectual capacity to appreciate them. Keep doing both of them!

  • @ermixonscraziesttheories
    @ermixonscraziesttheories 4 роки тому +4

    You forgot the other married couple on DS9, Worf and Jadzia. Sure, their marriage didn't last long because she died at the end of the season but it still counts.

  • @BrotherAlpha
    @BrotherAlpha 4 роки тому +8

    I can understand wanting a more optimistic Star Trek, especially given the state of the world, and maybe the Captain Pike spin-off will be that show.

    • @maximeteppe7627
      @maximeteppe7627 4 роки тому +2

      I think I'll leave a comment like that below every Trek actually video I cross, but as someone who's taken an interest in anarchism and workplace democracy, a new star trek show where starfleet became more democratic, and ditched rigid hierarchies could be a great way to move forward the utopian tradition of star trek.

    • @alanpennie8013
      @alanpennie8013 4 роки тому +1

      @@maximeteppe7627
      But then we'd lose the Evil Admiral stereotype.

  • @Snakebite105
    @Snakebite105 4 роки тому +1

    Mr. Shives, I just wanted to say that I really appreciate the videos you make they're entertaining and it's helpful especially in the current environment we find ourselves in right now.

  • @IanZainea1990
    @IanZainea1990 4 роки тому +4

    They could deal with the repercussions of killing Maddox in season 2. The show ends with them leaving the synth planet, so there's no telling what happens when they get back to earth. Was just more convenient for them to have her help them than to lock her in a cell.

    • @greenmkyd
      @greenmkyd 4 роки тому +2

      I'm expecting that. I think they just ran out of time to handle it. Not sure when they could have fit it in, honestly. Maybe kind of like the Scouring of the Shire for the LOTR films...cut for tone/pacing issues, not for content. I mean they had to tackle Picard's transformation and proceeding to S2, a murder trial or probation or whatever would be a real downer to end the show on, and people are already complaining the show isn't positive / hopeful enough.

  • @TubiTuesdays
    @TubiTuesdays 4 роки тому +5

    I love it when he responds to dumb ass comments.

  • @fortunatejeremy
    @fortunatejeremy 4 роки тому +4

    That's an excellent point about people not noticing how political older Trek was because they were children when they watched. I've always thought something similar when people talk about how the world is so horrible now etc etc and how it was so much better when they were young. Well yeah it seemed better when you were young because all the adults in your life shielded you from the stressful truths in the world. All you knew was that you got to play and your mom made you lunch.

  • @Tim3.14
    @Tim3.14 4 роки тому +2

    As someone who has young kids, I can always stream the old shows with them. It's new to them, and it's fun for me to see their reactions to the shows I grew up with.

  • @kvoltti
    @kvoltti 4 роки тому +4

    I will never forgive Picard season 2 if they don’t have his kick ass Romulan housekeeper give him the gears about his synth body like “you couldn’t of gotten a body with more hair, or less wrinkles?”

  • @tjzambonischwartz
    @tjzambonischwartz 4 роки тому +2

    I became addicted to TNG when I was a kid (during the third season), and it shaped my politics and mortality more than I shaped its politics and morality in my image.

  • @kaigreen5641
    @kaigreen5641 4 роки тому +10

    39:40 The most progress any TNG character made in the TNG movies was Geordie's Vision gadgets

    • @ArgonTheAware
      @ArgonTheAware 4 роки тому +2

      I thought of that too, but did it change his character any? No mention was ever made if the contacts were any less painful than his visor was. Geordi did get his sight back in Insurrection but it was only temporary, so he just went back to the way he was.

    • @RedClaw87
      @RedClaw87 4 роки тому +1

      The most progress a character make in TNG and their movies was Picard. The whole Locutus Event drastically changed Picard. Wesley changed a lot throughout TNG. Barclay did also change throughout the Series. Of the main Cast (Wesley became more of a recurring character than main cast in later series) the characters did not change drastically, but they change. Riker patching things up with his father and coming to terms with his feelings for Diana. Worf confronting his heritage and what being Klingon means to him rather than what most of Klingon society thinks being Klingon means. Datas constant struggle to understand humanity through his relationship with Lore and his father (and "mother") as well as Tasha. Ro being a reluctant Starfleet Officer towards full on rebel in joining the Maquis. Qs growing fascination for humanity and Picard especially. There is character progress, but it's subtle and did no big impact like for example a change of Riker towards taking the promotion towards captaining his own ship would have had, but it is there.

    • @maximeteppe7627
      @maximeteppe7627 4 роки тому

      @@RedClaw87 when redletter media criticized ST:Picard, they railed about Picard supposedly disliking children, dismissing character development throughout TNG and especially star trek generations. Some of their criticism I agree with but this in particular was either ignorant of bad faith.

  • @gloriabeckley7464
    @gloriabeckley7464 4 роки тому +4

    It's interesting how Star Trek's view of uploaded consciences have change from What Little Girls Are Made Of? episode to Picard.

  • @MrLeopard
    @MrLeopard 4 роки тому +2

    I've been watching your videos for a while Steve, but this one made me push the Subscribe button.
    My son and I have been watching all the Trek series in chronological order (as opposed to release order), and really the spirit of the show is the same. Keep on keepin' on!

  • @EternusNex
    @EternusNex 4 роки тому +17

    What the hell was that noise at 15:00? Scared the hell out of me.

    • @ArgonTheAware
      @ArgonTheAware 4 роки тому +3

      I was wondering about that too. did Steve even hear it? He showed no reaction to it at all. How did it get in the video, wouldn't he have noticed it before it was uploaded?

    • @tjzambonischwartz
      @tjzambonischwartz 4 роки тому +2

      I think it was a noisy car outside.

    • @Keleigh3000
      @Keleigh3000 4 роки тому +1

      A g-g-g-ghost.

    • @thomasaxtell6948
      @thomasaxtell6948 4 роки тому

      Loud pipes save lives!

    • @owenlong4176
      @owenlong4176 6 місяців тому

      Steve passed gas and hoped his mic wouldn't pick it up 😂

  • @StormsparkPegasus
    @StormsparkPegasus 4 роки тому +13

    When TOS was released on VHS, the episodes were numbered according to production order, and that's the order I got used to watching them. So when the remastered DVD's came out, and they were in broadcast order, I was really confused, and I generally go back and watch the episodes in production order, because I feel the series makes a lot more sense that way.

  • @Schwarzbier12
    @Schwarzbier12 4 роки тому +2

    Steve, your scripted videos are great, so keep making them! I think people just enjoy listening to you and your personality and enthusiasm for the material really shines when you're improvising it. I suppose that's a long way off saying we like you ❤

  • @luv4ever101
    @luv4ever101 4 роки тому +3

    worf and dax got married and rom and lita got married. so miles wasnt the only one with a significant other.

  • @kyrafrank1862
    @kyrafrank1862 4 роки тому +1

    I, too, often think about the fact that Star Trek happens when I'm long dead. It's a nearly constant internal monologue every time I watch the show 😂

  • @guywithdacap4713
    @guywithdacap4713 4 роки тому +2

    Steve, you forgot one important aspect of Ben Sisko we saw on the show. We saw him as friend, as father, as boss but also as warcriminal and dangerous psychopath. I don't understand why people just want to see the shiny side of a character! It's part of his story ark. It's part of his personality.

  • @Dorian_sapiens
    @Dorian_sapiens 4 роки тому +1

    The scripted essays and comment responses bring different things to the table, and I enjoy both. The essays have an expressiveness and insightfulness that make me care about a franchise I've only watched a little bit of. And the comment responses explore lots of interesting topics that don't necessarily merit full essays--plus, they're a chance to laugh at some of the ding dongs who are mad on the internet, which is always fun.

  • @andromidius
    @andromidius 4 роки тому +7

    Steve, I'm digging the grey streaks in the beard. You're looking more and more like Riker every video.

    • @Galvion1980
      @Galvion1980 4 роки тому +2

      He looks like a sexy badger!

  • @acerumble4991
    @acerumble4991 4 роки тому +2

    For a serious thought on your funny thought, I believe that it is the balance of your Actuallys along with the Not Actuallys that give strength to both formats. If it was all just one or the other, the presentation would inevitably flatten out to feel repetitive, but each style helps to support and feed off of the other to keep both continuously feeling fresh and compelling.
    As for why you're seeing more apparent enthusiasm for the Not Actuallys, I can't speak for everyone else of course, but for as much as I enjoy and appreciate your openness and positivity, I at least equally enjoy the finely-crafted shade that you throw back to the asshole commentators. Thanks for what you do, keep up the good work!

  • @tyrongkojy
    @tyrongkojy 4 роки тому +1

    Space orchids are awesome. Dumb of them to have so few when they are so fragile, but the idea of them is ABSOLUTELY Star Trek.

  • @alexweigelhikes
    @alexweigelhikes 4 роки тому +1

    Excellent explanation on the getting away with murder thing. It reminds me of Sisko calling out Picard on DS9 episode 1... I know there isn't much connection there, I just loved that Sisko - Picard interaction... And I like talking about DS9.

  • @darkyno6138
    @darkyno6138 Рік тому +1

    "Nobody thought that anybody would be watching this shit 50 years later." That is something that I keep in mind every TOS episode (and most early comic books.)

  • @johndittmer8488
    @johndittmer8488 4 роки тому +3

    I thought ST:Picard is one of the few shows that got its act together in its first season.

  • @HebaruSan
    @HebaruSan 4 роки тому

    Oh wow, I'm glad you enjoyed my "bleak" remarks and took them in the spirit in which they were intended!
    For what it's worth, you and I were born in the same month, so there's a likely pressing numerical reason behind why such thoughts have been occurring to me.

  • @edblack8233
    @edblack8233 4 роки тому +1

    I'd welcome a Sulu series. There were also some lines in some of the books that Sulu became Commandant of the Academy, which also would be an interesting way to explore the character and explore the transition from TOS' gunboat diplomacy to TNG's more diplomatic Starfleet.

  • @junioroverlord
    @junioroverlord 4 роки тому

    Steve, it's more that we enjoy you and your takes. It's nice seeing them raw and unrefined.

  • @Penhallam
    @Penhallam 4 роки тому +2

    I laughed out loud when your Captain Picard slid into Mr Bean and said "Don't murder anyone else!"

  • @andreaseverson2437
    @andreaseverson2437 4 роки тому +1

    My favorites are your scripted episodes, but I also love the non scripted discussions. Basically, I just like good Star Trek analysis, but I do appreciate the thought and organization that goes into your scripted work. It's kind of nice to have both so keep up the good work!

  • @Bastian227
    @Bastian227 4 роки тому +2

    Keiko divorcing Miles? That'll ruin Data's Day

  • @machscga6238
    @machscga6238 4 роки тому +4

    Most Under used characters on Star Trek DS9, obviously it's Mila (Garak's mom). She got as much character development as all of Voyager.

  • @Galvion1980
    @Galvion1980 4 роки тому +2

    I for one enjoy both your scripted and your rambling videos...I absolutely adore the "Steve and Stuffy" ones! Hans' German accent is adorably accurate!

  • @GoGreen1977
    @GoGreen1977 4 роки тому +1

    I was 11 - 13 years old and I understood many of the subtexts of the plots of TOS in 1966-69, but then I experienced the Cuban Missile Crisis, the assasination of John Kennedy, the civil rights protests and violent attacks on Freedom Riders in the South, growing unrest about the intensification of the Vietnam war as it unfolded on TV news every night, the riots in the streets in 1967 and 1968, and the assassinations of both Martin Luther King and Robert Kennedy all before I was 13!

  • @martynbealing79
    @martynbealing79 4 роки тому +2

    I loved the keiko and Miles O'brians relationship on next generation and ds9 it sort of drove home the family unit setup in starfleet and helped me envision how life for the married man with the trials and tribbleations that happen aboard a star ship.

  • @EdenMiller-u7x
    @EdenMiller-u7x Рік тому +1

    Lest we forget: from the beginning, Science Fiction has used the settings and situations of future time, alternate timelines, "what-if" situations, etc. to examine who we are, where and when we are now. Many of the TOS stories would not have gotten past the network censors if set in what was then the present. (And some censorship still got through, such as (according to Leonard Nimoy) the notion that Big Business is NEVER the villain.)

  • @MyMagnificentOctopus
    @MyMagnificentOctopus 4 роки тому +1

    Hurrah! I finally made it into a Not Actually Trek Actually! And for once I am not the one saying "Damn, wish I had written that!"

    • @MyMagnificentOctopus
      @MyMagnificentOctopus 4 роки тому +1

      Oops. I think you read one of my long rambling comments once before. But this one was pithy and funny, so I'll just pretend it is the first time.

  • @RezValla
    @RezValla 4 роки тому

    steve is one of the best things on youtube. certainly the best thing covering trek. steve is not a thing. he is a person.

  • @ErzengelDesLichtes
    @ErzengelDesLichtes 4 роки тому

    I don't know if you'll ever see this, Steve, but your politics of optimism and progress are the reason I subscribed to you. The "get woke, go broke" fools can go pound sand. Thank you for being you and standing up to these internet tough guy wanna-be bullies, calling them out and refusing to bend to them.

  • @KayleighBourquin
    @KayleighBourquin 4 роки тому +4

    An interesting counterpoint to the 'wasted potential' video is to work out which Trek character best fulfilled their potential, who had a complete arc, and were the most three dimensional
    ..It's Sisko isn't it?

  • @krim7
    @krim7 4 роки тому +2

    That has to be the most... Unique... Picard accent I have ever heard ;)

  • @trekjudas
    @trekjudas 4 роки тому +11

    This may sound strange but TNG is as much a product of the 80s as Top gun or an Arnold Schwarzenegger movie was. No, TNG didn't have the hypermasculine, republican vibe of those other things but it did have the enthusiasm and maybe underserved pride of the Reagan era. All the Trek shows are products of their era. TOS had the optimistic outlook towards the future of the 60s. TNG had the arrogance of the 80s, DS9 had the paranoia and angst of the 90s, and the new shows have the existential fear and horror of our current time.

    • @TheWarrrenator
      @TheWarrrenator 4 роки тому +2

      Kevin Thomas Plus the early seasons of TNG get a lot of flack but the show straddles two very different decades of recent American history. The first half of TNG is 80’s TV sci fi and the latter is 90’s TV sci fi.

  • @pwesiti
    @pwesiti 3 роки тому +1

    “Fuck you too buddy!” My favorite line.

  • @Mallory-Malkovich
    @Mallory-Malkovich 4 роки тому

    My wife and I are going to give _Discovery_ another chance during quarantine. I bounced off it when it came out, but your ardent support for the show has convinced me that maybe I missed something. Thanks for making such great videos!

  • @LastOptionPils
    @LastOptionPils 4 роки тому +1

    So I know this is late, but there was a great conversation about the silliness of Star Trek on Star Trek online when they introduced the Voth to the game. The Voth had dinosaurs with laser beams which some in the fandom decried as absurd and ridiculous like that one dude did with the Orchids. The devs immediately started listing off the absurd shit in various episodes of Star Trek. Long story short: There are dinosaurs with laser beams in STO and it's awesome.

  • @JanetStarChild
    @JanetStarChild 4 роки тому +1

    33:34 ...Okay, I MUST highlight this here, because this is something I really, REALLY want as well... 33:34
    Patrick Dodds, you are not alone; I resonate with your comment.

  • @williammartin4868
    @williammartin4868 4 роки тому +4

    Don't forget about Worf and Jadzia and I would also vote for AOC

  • @wildsmiley
    @wildsmiley 4 роки тому

    Thanks for replying, Steve! Loving the content as always.

  • @Renji1
    @Renji1 4 роки тому

    To add to our enjoyment of Discovery and Picard going forward, we can now also gain pleasure for thinking of James Mills seething with barely contained rage at their existence. Thanks James!

  • @mrpitman5496
    @mrpitman5496 4 роки тому +1

    They could make a light hearted episodic show just set it on earth around a Starfleet instructor. You could show him with students and then with his family and the government side of his adult hood without all the baggage of the grand scheme.

  • @zero_gravity5861
    @zero_gravity5861 4 роки тому +5

    I think he spelled it Shites as another juvenile attack on Steve’s character.

    • @StormsparkPegasus
      @StormsparkPegasus 3 роки тому

      The big thing...he never explained WHY Picard was supposedly so bad.

  • @CaptCoutu
    @CaptCoutu 4 роки тому +1

    Hi Steve,
    For Uhura, maybe it was more like aphasia. All her neural pathways were there, but her brain didn't know what to do with it. Bone had just to rearrange her neural pathways and voila.
    Keep up the good work

  • @HarryTaints
    @HarryTaints 4 роки тому

    These are the only ones that ever show up on my feed.

  • @munkykng416
    @munkykng416 4 роки тому +1

    The not writing off Keiko was great because we already have a lot of heartbreak concerning families and starfleet officers. Kirks estranged wife and dead son, Dr Crushers dead husband, SIsko's dead wife, Worfs dead baby mama, worfs estranged son, worfs not so dead parents, worfs dead wife, Picards brother.

    • @munkykng416
      @munkykng416 4 роки тому

      also worf's faked dead brother with medically induced amnesia...dang, worf has a lot of reasons to be angry

  • @markmalebranche508
    @markmalebranche508 4 роки тому +1

    Honestly, as much as a part of me is bummed that I can't watch Discovery or Picard with my 9 year old, I'm enjoying introducing her to older Trek and taking the time to establish the universe from the beginning. By the time we get through all of that, I figure she'll be old enough for newer Trek. And in the meantime, the animated Trek that is on the horizon looks like it'll be totally appropriate for her as well.

  • @violetcollins7293
    @violetcollins7293 4 роки тому

    I haven't been in the star trek youtube circles for a while and I've just noticed that you reached 100k! Its so great to see someone who shaI'll keep watching. Love it! Keep it up!

  • @BeSkeptical851
    @BeSkeptical851 4 роки тому +1

    The most "Star Trek" thing ever is when a piece of equipment time and time again suddenly breaks just so a problem couldn't be solved in seconds. Oh No! Warp engines are offline, we can't run away.. Oh No! transporters are offline, we need to stick around longer than we have to. etc. etc.

  • @HebaruSan
    @HebaruSan 4 роки тому

    OMG the response to the space orchid comment was pure unadulterated space gold

  • @christopherstephenjenksbsg4944
    @christopherstephenjenksbsg4944 4 роки тому +2

    I recognized that TOS was "woke" when I was a kid and saw it first-run, and I fully approved, even as a ten-year-old.
    Of course, my parents were Christian Socialists. They saw TOS as a bit too conservative.

  • @ericwojcik2945
    @ericwojcik2945 4 роки тому +4

    The secret diaries of Desmond pfeifer. I haven't heard that name in a long time.

  • @ac5015
    @ac5015 4 роки тому +1

    Steve, one thing I would love the Picard series to explore would be how the people we have met through TNG, DS9 , and voyager have progressed. Interactions between all three cast would interesting. I think it was a big missed opportunity during the TNG era of movies. All three shows were part of the same extended universe. Your thoughts would be appreciated.

  • @OutdatedReferences
    @OutdatedReferences 4 роки тому +1

    Ah man, I was hoping Steve would have brought up the inflatable Enterprise from the animated series. I so want to believe that it's cannon.

  • @aeonjoey3d
    @aeonjoey3d 4 роки тому

    GOD I love you, man. you bring up the examples i don’t even think of!

  • @paulm.8660
    @paulm.8660 Рік тому +1

    Man, a campy retro-futurist Star Trek: Captain Sulu would have been a magnificent antidote to the dumpster fire that was Star Trek: Enterprise

  • @otakonjunkie
    @otakonjunkie 4 роки тому +1

    A character that could have used some more time? Lon Suder, the murderer from Voyager. Keeping him around longer would have been interesting.

  • @christopherthompson5229
    @christopherthompson5229 2 роки тому

    One of the things I love about MST3K is that in the opening song, they specifically say not to even think about the scientific facts because it's just a tv show

  • @ddrninjette
    @ddrninjette 4 роки тому

    If you look in Steve's Eyes, you can see circles of light. Cool!

  • @Kinsfire
    @Kinsfire 4 місяці тому

    The Uhura relearning episode (with Nomad) - I always assumed that Nomad just sort of broke the connections in her mind, and the 'relearning' was just helping her make those old connections again. Instead of smoothing her brain, he just sort of overloaded it so that she couldn't access anything. The work was allowing her to redo the connections.

  • @nukeboyt7509
    @nukeboyt7509 4 роки тому +3

    Regarding holographic beings, are we to assume that the scientists of the federation after Voyager's return never took the Doctor's mobile holo-emitter from the future and attempted to learn how it works or replicate the technology, and that all of the holograms are still limited to specific locations?

  • @alexwilson7699
    @alexwilson7699 4 роки тому

    i swear there are more not actually, trek actually's then there are trek actually's. Keep it up steve, keep putting minimal effort into your videos we love it!

  • @dangerouslytalented
    @dangerouslytalented 4 роки тому +5

    I understood the LA law reference

    • @izuela7677
      @izuela7677 4 роки тому

      Why can't I binge that show on Netflix? I need more 80-ies shows. LA Law and Fame!

    • @jimwilson278
      @jimwilson278 4 роки тому +1

      Yeah, that theme song was stuck in my head all the way home from work.

  • @NeilBlumengarten
    @NeilBlumengarten 4 роки тому

    Your point about promotions is strengthened by the fact that the first thing we see if the TNG characters in Generations is a Worf getting a promotion. They set up the possibility from the word, "Go."
    Not to mention all the promotions in the TOS movies. I've previously mentioned how many of them were captains during the 6 movies. Hell, for 2 movies technically 3 of them were captains serving on the same ship b

  • @PeterGibneyX
    @PeterGibneyX 4 роки тому +1

    Least used character: the Enterprise D. With the massive main shuttle bay and a bazillion transporters. Oh hey! Nice planet you ha e there. Enjoy the 300 guys taking over. But sisko wasn't in charge. Oh, your planet is in peril from whatever? Just beam everyone up , hang out in the halls for a bit and go back into business.