The 1972 Austrian Bike Grand Prix | Jarno Saarinen vs Giacomo Agostini
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- Опубліковано 29 кві 2020
- The classic film "On the Surface" features a host of disciplines including Motocross, Speedway, Grass Track Racing, Trials, Sand racing and Bike GP racing. In this awesome clip we head to the 1972 Austrian Bike GP at the Salzburgring, featuring the World's top riders like Barry Sheene, Giacomo Agostini and Jarno Saarinen as they went head to head in the premier class race.
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An era that will never be again . The MV 3 sounds magnificent , as do the two strokes !!
50 years since this race and Ago has just turned 80 and Saarinen is still
In our hearts. Such a terrible loss.
RIP Jarno and thanks for some great racing - I was in Italy in the spring of 1973 and still remember the shock when I heard about Jarno and Renzo Pasolini, both killed in the same racing accident at Monza.....
I remember. What a black day for motorcycle racing.
Grande Jarno ci hai lasciato troppo presto , ricordo ancora quel maledetto giorno incollati alla tv , attoniti e sgomenti , sei sempre nei nostri cuori
Totally Insane guys they were. That speed with those brakes and tyres.
Yeah, im so old i actually raced with those tyres, and you are totally right, those guys were insane. or just true heroes. Saarinen were a hero for us racing guys
In 40 years they'll be saying the same about Marquez and Co.
@@eventcone in 40 years, racing doesnt exixts enymore, then its forbidden :-)
@@tutankraider3502 Hey who knows? But then, I kinda remember struggling to imagine racing in the future about 40 - 45 years ago! It seemed to me then that bikes were approaching some kind of limit, beyond which they would be beyond human control. Yet here we are. But maybe every generation feels the same?
@@eventcone there are no limitations in development of racing motorcycles/cars . here in Europe, it gets more and more difficult to get permission to race because of noice and pollution rules. theres allready a class for electric motorcycles and allso formula cars. i guess thats the way it goes
Amazing how fast these guys were able to go with archaic suspensions, brakes and tires. Current MotoGP riders have it good.
Giacomo Agostini was recently at a classic bike show here in the UK. Lovely chap and signed my copy of his book ''Fifteen times''...very approachable man you can respect.
We have 4 F1, 13 rally racing, 5 motocross and almost 40 enduro world championships in Finland and only 5 million inhabitants. Still, the brightest star is Jarno "Baron" Saarinen! The only Finnish RR world champion!
Always thought that was amazing. I'm from Ireland a little smaller than you but not by much we really have nothing, a few could have beens. Top Gear, a UK show did a piece on that, showing how hard your driving test is. Maybe that, or your crazy amount of daylight!
Lots of love from Sweden, the kid brother of Finland when it comes to motorsport and rock 'n' roll.
Amazing video, never seen these legends racing before.
Im proud and honoured to be named after Jarno Saarinen 😇
That's a nice name 🙂
Great name!
It is a cruel sport, much more so years ago, and it is interesting to speculate about what might have been achieved by greats like Saarinen, or Rainey, or a host of others, if their careers had not been cut short.
@@colinmartin2921 Bill Ivy also comes to mind - another great rider RIP.
Me too
My God! Ago's leathers are gorgeous!
Watching Sheen in this race is interesting to in the light of what a superstar he went on to become. I never saw Jarno race but I saw Ago many times. Jarno's picture of him riding an RD 250 in a Yamaha brochure inspired me to buy that bike.
Deadly circuit and real heroes
Have a Tshirt emblazoned with Jarno- world champion 1972- Finest rider I have ever seen- saw him wipe the American superbike teams at Mallory Park - sadly missed-RIP Mr Saarinen
And have the VIDEO "Against all odds/Tribute to Saarinen"
Barry sheene👌
That friendly official giving a tow is on a Kawasaki two-stroke triple, worth a pretty penny today if it's still around!
I had a 1970 Kawasaki 500 in 72-73 when I was 17. A lot of fun.
世界のkanaya選手の映像が見られるなんてとても貴重です。ありがとうございます。
1:17 skirt 😀 old fashion 👍🏻 😍
That's somebodies grandma there buddy
And he won the 1973 Daytona 200 on a 350cc competing against bigger bikes.
Ago was always center of attention when he turned up to our club meetings, being senior member possibly helped, much to Mr Reads shagrin I suspect.
the real legend
Saarinan on his day was possibly the best rider ever. Saw him win the Race of the Year at Mallory on a 250.cc (might have been a 350cc) tragic he died so young.
It was a 350cc, in 1972. He wasn't the only one to have done so. Mike Hailwood and John Cooper being the others. Actually Hailwood beat Ago's 500cc MV twice on the 297cc Honda 6, and would have done so a third time had it not ben for a puncture in the closing laps.
@@eventcone "Hailwood beat Ago's 500cc MV twice on the 297cc Honda 6" - I witnessed one of those races at Brands Hatch in the late 60's - both phenomenal riders but Mike had the edge - and what sounds ! RIP Mike.
@@misterjones7929 I envy you. Never had the priviledge to see him race. Such a shame that none of his races (being the era it was) are captured in full for posterity on film or videotape (except perhaps Mallory Park 1978) the way races are today. Would have loved to be able to watch them.
I only saw Jarno Saarinen once, at Scarborough in the U.K. .He was a cut above and such a stylish rider too . Broke the outright lap record twice that day .He was truly one of the all time greats and i knew i was watching a legend in the making.
@@ghengiscant538 One wonders how world championship motorcycle racing would have unfolded in the 1970s had he not been killed at the age of 27. Mind you it was very much an era in which exceptional riders were lost to the sport prematurely, whether by tragedy in the case of Tom Phyllis (28) and Bill Ivy (26), or by switching to car racing in the case of Surtees (26), Hocking (24) and Hailwood (27).
Merci !
This track is so awesome
Et le son magique de la MV3❤
Legend forever gruß vom Sachsenring Moto GP
MY IDOL
The Salzburgring with the Fahrerlagerkurve . Kevin Schwantz said once that it was the most challenging curve ever. They needed all their courage they had.
R.I.P Paroni-Saarinen!!
Agostini inarrivabile leggenda.
Great racing, and those Yamaha 350s packed some kind of horsepower for their size.
Bravo!
Those bikes were toys compared to today's superbikes.
Magnifico RICORDO✌️ 🎶del 👍grande Jarno !💥!! ... Ma sopratutto. .. BRAVO À TE🇮🇹AAAGOOOOOOOO ‼️🇮🇹‼️💥🏁👌❗💕🇮🇹.❗Longue vie à toi😎 Giacomo 👍‼️❗❗💕
🇲🇫Georges de Paris🇲🇫 !!!!!!!!!
Jarno was the first rider since the great Mike the bike Hailwood to give Agostini a real run for his money
It's a damn shame Jarno died so young he would have won multiple world championships if he'd lived
Was he not the first rider since Mike Hailwood to have a bike that could challenge the MV?
Oui c’est sûr je me rappelle très bien de Saarinen j’avais 17 ans et j’étais un fan inconditionnel d’AGO comme toute ma génération. Il y avait aussi Pasolini sur sa Benelli un adversaire redoutable pour Agostini je l’ai vue à Ospedaleti en Italie une course dans la ville.mais un grand pilote ne meurt jamais en course car il sait maîtriser la situation,lui ne l’a pas sue le faire peut-être par orgueil ou par défaut de jeunesse alors qu’un grand champion pilote avec la tête !!!!! à méditer.
@@SuperTonyproduction
Quand il y a une grosse tache d'huile sur la piste non signalée par les commissaires de courses on ne parle pas de manque d'expérience suite à un accident comme celui là ! n'importe qui serait tombé , Agostini comme les autres , malheureusement c'est Saarinen et Pasolini qui en ont fait les frais ! vous dites n'importe quoi , votre commentaire est stupide !
@@jeanclaudevivier7126 Pasolini didn't get off track at 1st curve because of the oil stain .
Jarno was n:o 2, not n:o 41 which was toeing... just to mentioned...
Pasolini che fuma durante la premiazione.... tanta nostalgia
E' forse l'immagine più bella: niente limiti o paturnie varie, solo tanta passione e gas.
Those 1972 250cc yamahas would be hard to ride
Agostini was riding a MV, that run only in 350 and 500cc. This race was probably 350cc, because Pasolini that won the third Place was riding Aermacchi Harley Davidson that played only in 250 and 350cc.
Asi me gusta hauque no entido ingles la musica de los escapes y brebes comentarios si , el sonido es la salsa de las carreras
which track it is ?
The GOAT Agostini.
at this race i was like hearing the commentator say Giacomo Agostini beat Pecco Bagnaia...😂
These guy were so fast.
1:27 Someone's testing the elbow down long before Ruggia (and later Marquez) used it it seems XD
I can see knee scraping but no elbows on the ground?
👍👍👍👍
2 tempi e 4 tempi insieme
Quando se non eri un "fuori classe!! non facevi neanche la comparsa nella classe "regina "..moto senza elettronica..( come le 2 tempi..) che non ti permettevano il minimo errore...non come ...adesso che i piloti si cimentano in un "video gioco!!" ...
Giacomo agostini is the excellent rider in the word
jarno saarinens passing triggered about 4000 boys in my country to be named jarno . now we have jarnos who have grown sons named jarno too , and hardly anybody in my native holland seems to know jarno comes from this guy and is not a dutch name
Not even joking, I thought exactly the same too like few weeks ago that why are there so many Jarnos in Netherlands too. Jarno Opmeer comes to mind in first. I don’t think even he doesn’t know where he got his name or if his parents gave it to him because of Jarno. Don’t know. Still fascinating. Obviously Jarno Trulli, the Italian ex-F1 driver, is named after him. He was born in 1974 and I believe his father was a fan of Jarno or at least followed the sport closely.
@@max27stoner 100% mate , i worked with a 20 year old jarno who didnt know his name is finish . now here we have the same with jari , there is a finish football player who became a hero here in the 90s and early 2000s and now the jaris are 20 ish .
01:18: Best perspective is the nice girl...😇🥰
The YAMAHA TWO STROKE !!!THE Giant KILLER Bike !!! I Had one IF The FINNS Bike HAD Stayed ON SONG !!!HE Would Have WON !!!g
Klk mi jente
Sheen always retired when he was loosing.
金谷さん？
Great footage but that looks to be in europe not Australia.
The last time we checked Austria was still part of Europe!😉
@@dukevideo oh i read it wrong , whoops
no kerb, zero crash tolerance
Salzburgring
Giacomo Agostini fifteen times world champion....amazing!!!
Without wishing to critisize Ago's undenieable talent ,way too many of his championships were just a cruise around for him ....... his "competition" were on aged british singleswith a 20 / 30 plus horsepower defecit , He only showed his talent once again when he left MV and joined Yamaha by winning again against equal competition !
@@mikeford5106 When it comes to outstanding performances in motorsport it's always a matter of man-machine work combo. The 1975 world championship with the Yamaha is only the peak, but beyond any gap in terms of hp Agostini showed to be superior so many times and in so many tracks, that calling x a minimum theorical adv of 20 hps to deny his clear superiority is senseless and unfair . His Mv wasn't fit for every circuit and ev'ry ctg : some of the 15 world titles were won by Agostini because of his incredible setting abilities and drive skills and not 'cos of the 20 hps more which were ineffective on some circuits.....
Bet Ago got a lot of women back in the day!😀😀😀
They all did. I remember Barry Sheene talking about seeing his hero Bill Ivy surrounded by girls after winning a race and thinking "you lucky bugger". It seemed to have been a major motivator for Sheene to become successful on bikes! ;-)
@@eventcone you know you look at Ago's face and build back in the day, stick a Campagnolo cap on his head and put him on a Colnago and you've got the Italian bicycle racer that absolutely looks the part. The man was destined to be famous...
Jarno would beat ago 9 out o 10 ....ago on a 500 jarno on a350 not really fair ...
Well, in 1972 Jarno was 27, just coming into his prime. Ago was 30. Always difficult to compare. Jarno never took a 350cc world title from Agostini, did he?
Actually, taking the 1972 season (Saarinen's last full season, sadly) in the 350cc class as an example, did not Agostini win 6 grand prix to Saarinen's 3?
Also was not Agostini not still piloting the 350cc MV that had proven uncompetitive against tge Honda 6 5 years earlier. Surely Saarinen's 2-stroke Yamaha must have been the quicker bike in 1972? It was natural that the 2-strokes began to displace 4-strokes in the 350cc class whilst the 500cc MV was still top dog. My point being that Saarinen's successes against Agostini may have had as much to do with the machinery as with the riders.
@@eventcone Saarinen only took part in three races on the Yamaha 500/4 and beat both MVs in the first two races- sadly losing his life before the 4thGP.What a season it could have been
@@eventcone The 4 stroke MV was an old bike design and coming to the end of it's competitive life, in the end even Agostini turned to Japanese bikes and he won on them as well.
@@ronvalente65 Hi Ron. I'm not sure what your point is here. I know full well that the MV was on its way to being displaced by a 2-stroke from one factory or another. Did you perhaps intend your reply for someone else?
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