Can you Improve at Making Reads?
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- Опубліковано 13 гру 2024
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I was washing my dishes while watching this and my roomate walked in asking what i was watching... wtf do i even say💀
Cow mommy
finish in front of them making eye contact
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@@TheJbrown60 what do you mean by that
@@TheJbrown60 PAUSE😂😂😂😂😂
"Look at the screen"
The Lord Knight Signature Advice. Did you know this also works for teaching troubleshooting to IT students? It's true.
Yomi is that concept I'm always notionally aware about but don't actively consider enough. It's definitely a blind spot for me. Thanks for the vid, Romolla.
active and intentional awareness. aka "look at the screen"
honestly this is THE thing that makes people good or bad at fighting games and it's a very difficult skill to learn. well, that plus familiarity with situations the game puts you in.
It's real hard if you come from a single-player game perspective. Games can be unpredictable, random, and even hard, but there's always some level of predictable AI in even the most chaotic boss fights. Because of this, I can find my eyes glaze over when I'm at my best, because I learn the patterns and don't need to look anymore.
Against a human, they can change on the fly just as fast as you can -- if not faster. Reads are about not only catching those patterns, but also about catching the opponent fixing themselves.
Actively watch your opponents. What choices do they make? How do they handle making the right choice a few times in a row? The wrong choice? Are they reacting or did they blindly guess correctly when they succeed? What do they do when you commit to nothing? Do they demonstrate that they understand a given RPS situation at all or are they just picking rock every time? How do they like to use resources?
Most beginners and intermediate players don't actively watch their opponent and don't consider these things during matches.
In magic the gathering we have a saying - “reading the card explains the card” - with the exact same energy as “look at the screen”
As someone who was going to be a film studies major, "look at the screen" makes perfect sense to me as advice. It's like the difference between passively consuming a film and actively watching for mise-en-scene and composition and whatnot. Both are still "watching the movie," but there's a big difference.
It's the same as telling a TCG player, "read the fucking card."
These videos really really help me as a beginner to fighting games. The step of just getting to a stage where I actually understand the complexity of the game in terms of all the options and matchups is taking a while but I’m getting there
Even at higher intermediate level, people really struggle with looking at the screen. It’s pretty easy for Baiken to invalidate I-No’s pressure by refusing to block and alternating between jab, parry, and backdash. The minute I see a Baiken choose one of these options, I focus on winning neutral, setting up note, and completely ignoring high/low mix in favor of delayed Slash Stroke. You would be amazed how many Celestial Baikens continue to mash parry, jab, or backdash for the entire set despite consistently being beaten by an unsafe button that’s minus on block.
And every time game 3 rolls around, I go “okay, they MUST have adapted by now. There’s no way they’re going to keep doing the same shit that got them smoked four rounds in a row.” And then I lose game 3. Because as soon as you assume something like that, you’ve stopped looking at the screen.
the no adaptation mixup gets me everytime, I had a sol run up dp me or using bandit bringer so many times that I could reliably parry on THEIR wakeup to parry their dp to prove a point, I win the round. Next round I lose to a roundstart dp, pain.
Immense pain. For me personally, the no adaptation players are twice as hard to fight because they piss me off. I get mad that they’re treating it like a one player game and (frankly) disrespecting my ability to read them, so I play worse.
Seeing shapes, colours and imagining in your head what your opponent might or is doing Vs actively watching your opponent and being aware of their options and where their route to victory lies based off previous experience.
I agree with the look at your screen advice. I've heard it before and I've realized over time that "look at the screen" teaches you different things as you evolve as a player. When I think "I need to get better at looking at the screen" now doesn't reflect what I felt like I needed to do when thinking "I need to get better at looking at the screen" before.
We love the yomi lady
a lot of your advice helped me improve in a tangible way. thank you.
One thing that helps me is when I struggle against a certain character I'll just switch to playing them in training/arcade mode to help me understand what options they have and which ones seem the most effective when. Also just helps with the burnout of playing the same few characters over and over again
This works 100%, if you actually play as a character, you much more quickly internalize their options and what they want to do/want to avoid. You can learn this through just playing, but you get much more experience and more direct understanding playing a few dozen matches with said character. Directly, if you play 100 games as Foust, you have played in 100 games with a Foust, if you play 100 games as Ky, you might get 5-10 games with a Foust.
I did a similar thing back when I played league and I can confirm that it works really well, it helped me understand different gameplans, powerlevels and routings way better
super interesting video on a really deep topic. don't shy away from the more complex topics like this because the more you flesh it out for the new players the better it gets. i hope you talk more about yomi in the future.
I think a common problem in lower levels of gameplay is that people tend to go aggro so often that you cant hardly consider any offensive options that don't involve continuous attack strings or frame traps, because you will get mashed out if you don't, and lose your turn. By the time you get to a decent level of gameplay (floor 10ish in Strive) you have that bad habit already engrained on your gameplay and have to learn a different approach now that people actually consider more answers.
I play between floors 8-10 (thanks rating updated) and when playing on floors 8 and 9 sometimes I win against "Drill everytime" Gios or "Always jump attack" Baikens just by pressing 6P enough times.
Part of that is that people in Strive mash a lot in my experience. They don't really know how to defend, so beating low level players often just amounts to keeping your frametraps rolling because they're gonna mash eventually kinda at random. They just run out of patience for blocking. As you get to higher level players who actually understand the RPS you can then be greedy during moments where the risk of mashing is high. And when I say high level players I mean like maybe the top 35% of celestial... people be mashing in this game.
As a floor 8-9 Potemkin (who gets put on the defensive often) I think that yeah, Strive does contribute a lot to that mentality because it punishes defensive play quite hard.
Between RISC punishing you for being in the defensive, Roman Cancels helping attackers close the gap or force different mixups in blockstrings, timing for Throw Tech being super strict , chicken blocking not usually being an option and damage being generally super high, it's hard not to panic when you're in the defensive. I know whenever I'm pushed, my mind is always trying to look for "how do I jail break? When can I steal my turn back" which, with Potemkin, not super easy a lot of the time.
And I do know the other side of this coin from having been a Brisket player up until recently and just frametrapping all day will get you to floors 7-9.
I magically got better at reading wake-up supers just by taking a glance at there health and meter more often
That picture of bigfoot is taken at the Mill Mountain Star where I live in my hometown Roanoke, VA. That was really weird to see lmao
I remember Lordknight saying something similar, but it wasn't really sinking in into now. Even now, it still isn't, but I understand better. I really needed this.
Thank you cow lady 🙇♂️
I have been playing fighting games for 5 years now and started doing this subconsciously at some point I have only now just started to do it consciously and it has helped dramatically it makes games way more fun.
HOLY SHIT I'M NOT CRAZY
I'm literally constantly telling myself to look at the screen cos I'm just not taking in the info there, that's more in regards to reactions normally (charge a 5D and I'll normally shit the bed) but yeah, damn
Yes you can improve reads, have a stable family or/and emotional partner and you can make better reads not even in guilty gear but also in everything in life, or just sniff cocaine
When it comes to guessing an opponents options it’s always a good idea to think what’s the most common options that most people at whatever skill level your pick for example with the hell sweep and your opponent knows that at your level it’s common for you to hell sweep so instead you go for mid win and then go from there this can help a lot because you can use this on any new player you fight against to make reads on them even with no prior knowledge on them. Once you start playing against a certain someone enough however you can start to take more things that they do into account another example bursting earlier into a combo now that you know this you can use it to read them later. This is not the only way to read someone but it’s one of the safer ways to do so some people just use there gut feeling to and follow it last example “how did you know I was going to dp that was first wake up dp I did all set?” “ well I just knew” you most likely have gotten a response like this and thought they where full of shit but in reality they most likely weren’t lying to you, but these are just something’s to consider
Triumphant return of the threat of an option
You make me like Vtubers more XD Your amazing, keep it strong!
Thank you sensei!
so all this time i was a yomi player, kinda weird to think that my playstyle was around abusing bad habits when that wasn't my intent in the first place
"look at the screen" feels like a weird advice at first glance but considering I still struggle to monitor the opponent's gauge and regularly eat wake supers... yup 😅
getting better at it though
i really thought this was Yomi Hustle video
Axl
when will she bring up Kusoru
I believe that you can, since I became way better at reading opponents as Tager after playing for a while.
hi yomi lady
Look at the screen means so many different things that you can't condense it into a 20 minute video
ngl I'm a sapiosexual and if our brains were put in the same jar?
apocalyptic storms.
great content, I wanna try hard at fighting games one day maybe I'll go even with you in Guilty Gear Zth
Read the article, basically had a lot of what I’ve heard you say before 😂
Who else is a FS-Grinder and always misunderstands yomi?