In what universe succ corsair is harder than awake and don't get me starting about that awake warrior... But props to you for taking your time to do a list like this. More creators should be doing this.
Emotional Damage xD hey hey now, top 20 for Corsair is only 1354... Don't make me main this class and hit top 20 ;) But ya, my experience, Succ corsair is much harder (cuz it has so many movement abilities) when awak corsair just simple forward dash and backwards as well. Flow skills and combos, awak corsair is much easier than succ based on my experience but, i'm always down to test it out again for ya'll for juicy content :)
@@woothewinner You do realize awakening corsair has 4 additional movement skills and still has access to all of the ones succession does right? As far as min maxing goes awakening corsair is actually one of the more complicated classes in BDO currently especially when you consider that it does use a lot of pre awakening skills in high end PVE.
@@OhohoTV I don't know if you were responding to me but I was talking mainly about overflow and throwing in wave blast, vigor, tides kiss or oceans pearl when necessary or even opening with them on spots like gyfin. The mermaid skills are almost never worth it in PVE for awakening imo. I sometimes use the rabam to pull after after sea stroll but thats about it. That said with the buffs today I can't see pre-awk having much importance in pve now.
Awake sorc has a high ceiling skill. She is hard to master with all her animation cancels. Very high apm too. So putting her down in middle difficulty is not true.
Thinking again, I can definitely agree with you on that! :) But this videos is for new bdo players! don't expect new bdo players to know all those animation cancels because that will not happen until they actually can figure out the foundation first! with enough practice though, any class is possible!
@@woothewinner Isn't that the point though? Sorc being high skill ceiling, and needing those cancels/high APM to do well makes her hard to play. I wouldn't consider it beginner friendly. Yes you can play it without those aspects, but then it's not very efficient in PvE or PvP
Sorc isn't hard to play especially in pve. Only thing you have to think about is mana and maybe stamina but not really. She's one of the easier characters to play. Definitely don't have the apm ninja has
@@geezy12310 i agree with the pve part. She is easy to use in pve but very squishy. In pvp, thats a hard disagree. She is one of the hardest class to master. Back in the day, we need to use 7 skills just to kill 1 opponent. That made me like her because of her wombo combo like in tekken. Those 7 skills must be inputted very fast or you'll miss your window. Now, it's grj + swirling then your dead. Lol
Hello, I would like to watch a video of you grinding on Succession Witch at Quint Hill or Hexe if possible. I am learning Succession Witch and I saw that you put her on easiest to play so I wanted to see how RMB gameplay works at end game spots Also, what kind of trash do you pull on Witch/Wiz? Thanks! :)
For those cancel animations, I believe that people can easily learn those once they get their foundation first! Me testing out all the classes, I can surely tell you that I definitely didn't know all the cancel skills for every class but, what I can tell you is that warrior's key binding is super awesome and very friendly to new bdo players if they need to try out a new class. I can 100% guarantee let you know that because I tested all the classes, and warrior has the friendliest keyboard binding form comparing to all other classes. After learning warrior awakening now and if I do watch any more cool tricks and tips from a guy who actually who plays warrior, those tutorial videos will even make more sense and just build more to my knowledge and will make my future videos even better! :)
Completely missed nova suc rating. She is super easy. Debuffs build into her damage spells 4-5 spells in rotation and u consider her hard? Just watching 3 min long guide will be enough to play her at high lvl. Used to main her
As a content Creator, I still have to think to those people who never played this game and giving the class recommendation. Succ nova definitely has different mechanics comparing with other classes so it's really not recommended to new bdo players. her perm SA when on guard mode can be confusing & annoying to new bdo players when they just want to move around normally, and summon guards, and other abilities that she has can be for sure confusing to new bdo players! But no worries for those people who wants to learn succ nova, I will eventually make the tutorial videos just like other classes so if they happen to love succ nova, so be it :D
Wow. Im a nee player on bdo. My first season im now at level 58. All the videos told me just pick what you like and I chose ninja. As a beginner ninja is extremely difficult. Theres no blocks. You have to rely heavily on dashes, teleports, and s. And i play on playstation. Since i awakened its been alot easier as almost everything dies within 4 moves. Only thing that doesnt is rift bosses. This is at lvl 56 full awaken. Full tuvala. Head to toe. Crystals for attack speed movement speed and ap
@@horizonbs779 how is it cringe as someone who works at night and not in a lot of light bright lights hurt your eyes because you aren’t acclimated to it so it’s literally his own fault just like it’s mine when my eyes hurt from light
Well you can chain. Do the spinny shit like w+rmb, then click rmb at the end to extend it, then do w+rmb, then like lmb for another. Dont quote me on the actual inputs but it's whatever the flows are after. Longer you can keep a combo going the more time it has to come off cooldown.
awak ranger has amazing & easy movement skill for pve, and it's spammable which can make the class easy. Just like @lespretend said, she has amazing flow skills, spammable skills, and overall really good damage which can be friendly for new bdo players. I definitely would like to make the tutorial guide for awak ranger! so look out for those when they come out~! :)
how can succ hasha be harder than awa hasha? i have played both since release and succ hasha deals a bit more dmg (Q_Q sadly) and have less much skills, so it should be far easyr to play than awa hashashin because a TRUE awa hashashin master use both mainhand + skill addon and awa skilltree + addon . And i talk for PVE . If you want to master both, you have to learn all skills free hand so that you have it saved in your brain + rabam skills. after that you have to put some skills on quick buttons for the perfect use and optimasation like the space button. (i have it on mouse scroll because you have only there 100% freedome of use) . So all in all, to master awa hashashin you need to learn awa+mainhand+skilladdons+ combo flows between them. in succ you only need to learn mainhand combos. So i would prefer to place awa hashashin on hard classes because every streamer i saw for example, play him false and to slow.
Since they buffed pve dmg on awk and added crit dmg on crown kick. It's not worth using pre awk skills. I sometimes use rabams or Al's dominion or ridge river descent to have some fun playing with high apm but just dune slash alone has better dps than them all and it's 5sec cd. You can perform really well easily with awk by just using awk kit + some movements and the tornado of pre awk. The point is awk has long animations allowing you to play with less apm while succ has fast animations with weird cds making it hard to learn an infinite rotation.
sorry, still haven't tested! this was just based on my part 1 part 2 video where I didn't yet tested awak woosa and awak maegu ( but i did practiced awak woosa so I know her playstyle for difficulty!)
there is no love for maegu (I understand no worries just making sure I wasn't missing it lol) I need her console release so I can finally become my true self @@woothewinner
Maehwa and Woosa are my 2 starting classes, and thought to myself: goddamn these classes are so hard, maybe I should try to pick up another one, maybe it will be easier to play the game. You just crushed my hopes, I guess the game is just hard overall... 😂😂 The game would be more enjoyable if I could use put the abilities on the skill bar.
Listen mate, I thought the same... I said the same thing about skill bar.. and then... I decided to get rid of all the skills, and just learn the skills and what they do one by one, eventually I started adding them together to create combos.. and bang that was it. Now my win/lose ratio in PvP is 70/30 which is really good, try it mate, you get used to it. Your muscles will remember and do half the job for you
Its actually not that hard to learn. I played about 90 percent of these class and the hard part is understanding what your character can do such as where to grind, how to combo grind, and what to do in pvp. But if you play all the other class, you already know what the other class do so the PvP aspect is cover if you explore other character. Where to grind is important but you can find guide to them easily and people will say where is the most efficient grind spot for you and how to grind the mob or if you play S tier pve class, go anywhere you like. For learning combo, thats the tricky part but its easy to pick up once you understand the combat system and muscle memory of your keyboard. It comes naturally after 30 min to 1 hour of gameplay. It can just be me but thats how I feel like it. Rest assure the combo system is not as hard as playing Street fighter, tekken, or mortal kombat. No need for hit confirm etc lol
Seriously Im surprised you put Succession Nova and Awakening as something that under the HARD category, I love most of your content Woo but this one I sort of disappointed. Succession Nova is the easiest both PVP and PVE, the only downside is its slow compare to her awakening skill which high apm. In sucession you can literally press Q and pray for cc in pvp. How is that in the hard category. It should be in easy and her PVE the combo is pretty straight forward and she doesnt have high APM like awakening. Your main thing in succession is to get Axian out at all time and if you want to reset axian, U can shift+spacebar then S+E it will summon Axian again. For her main combo in pve is just hold shift LMB + RMB > shift +F > Shift +Q and you literally get some prebuffs in. Theres more in her combo and its very newb friendly class even in PVP. Her awakening on the other hand ill put around the middle, because her skill is a lil bit free style with how the skill have very long CD, so you had to play around with her Pre awakening from time to time. and also on PVP it kinda hard because you have to think twice before diving thru and it sort of a in and out class when it comes to PVP. but we're talking about PVE so it shouldnt be in the hard category.
Since when is Awk Warrior considered easy? Also I don't see how Archer can be considered that difficult either, like he isn't the easiest class in the world but he is pretty easy to pick up and play I'd say, hard to master tho.
@@1PercentMomFker I mean I don't think he's an east class but he's definitely not "that" difficult, I'd put him on the lower end of the hard classes probably.
Hey just wondering will you be doing an awakening Lahn class guide? Just starting playing and my brain is melting trying to figure out what abilities to lock and hotkey and what good and so on
Can't believe some peoples complaints about your placement lol. You are looking at it with new player perspective. Yes Awak Warr requires knowledge of cancels and so does so many other classes, but you dont need to know them to learn Awak Warr at a base level. Implimenting cancels, tricky movement, etc. is leaning more towards intermediate to advance level play..
@@woothewinner ido say she is atleast medium if u fuck up ur combo u legit deal no dmg u have to postion good also ,she is not high APM like some but yea
It doesn't make sense. Take awakening ranger. Can you hold W F to clear pollys? Yes. But people are choosing a class with zero game knowledge. If you advertise that class as beginner friendly based on how effortlessly they kill mushrooms its a massive misrepresentation they will suffer for later if they were looking for a simple class. Once you get to more meaningful pve even as early as serendia elvia awakening ranger is extremely mechanical and high APM compared to most classes, it also has some of the most complicated cancels in the game. The same argument can be made for succ musa. Can you just spam chase and occasionally hold shift lmb to kill pollys? Yes. But serene mind is not an easy mechanic to learn for most players and the APM is on par with succ ninja once you can't 1 shot mobs. Even stamina management is something newer players will struggle with on succ musa.
unpopular opinion: BDO would be better without fucking keyboard + mouse combos, instead of that using the numbers 1, 2, 3, 4 and f1, f2, f3, f4 to cast skills, harder doesn't mean better, in bdo it is harder but there is no reason to make it too hard
No that's braindead and takes the fun away. Comboing would be boring as hell and the combat system would become as braindead as many other MMO's combat system. Just pick a clas that doesn't require high apm or just...get good.
In what universe succ corsair is harder than awake and don't get me starting about that awake warrior... But props to you for taking your time to do a list like this. More creators should be doing this.
Emotional Damage xD
hey hey now, top 20 for Corsair is only 1354... Don't make me main this class and hit top 20 ;)
But ya, my experience, Succ corsair is much harder (cuz it has so many movement abilities) when awak corsair just simple forward dash and backwards as well.
Flow skills and combos, awak corsair is much easier than succ based on my experience but, i'm always down to test it out again for ya'll for juicy content :)
@@woothewinner You do realize awakening corsair has 4 additional movement skills and still has access to all of the ones succession does right? As far as min maxing goes awakening corsair is actually one of the more complicated classes in BDO currently especially when you consider that it does use a lot of pre awakening skills in high end PVE.
eh uh technically... no you could stick to all awake and just use mermaid skills every now and then as filler
@@OhohoTV I don't know if you were responding to me but I was talking mainly about overflow and throwing in wave blast, vigor, tides kiss or oceans pearl when necessary or even opening with them on spots like gyfin. The mermaid skills are almost never worth it in PVE for awakening imo. I sometimes use the rabam to pull after after sea stroll but thats about it. That said with the buffs today I can't see pre-awk having much importance in pve now.
Awake sorc has a high ceiling skill. She is hard to master with all her animation cancels. Very high apm too. So putting her down in middle difficulty is not true.
Thinking again, I can definitely agree with you on that! :)
But this videos is for new bdo players! don't expect new bdo players to know all those animation cancels because that will not happen until they actually can figure out the foundation first!
with enough practice though, any class is possible!
@@woothewinner
Isn't that the point though? Sorc being high skill ceiling, and needing those cancels/high APM to do well makes her hard to play. I wouldn't consider it beginner friendly. Yes you can play it without those aspects, but then it's not very efficient in PvE or PvP
Sorc isn't hard to play especially in pve. Only thing you have to think about is mana and maybe stamina but not really. She's one of the easier characters to play. Definitely don't have the apm ninja has
@@geezy12310 i agree with the pve part. She is easy to use in pve but very squishy. In pvp, thats a hard disagree. She is one of the hardest class to master. Back in the day, we need to use 7 skills just to kill 1 opponent. That made me like her because of her wombo combo like in tekken. Those 7 skills must be inputted very fast or you'll miss your window. Now, it's grj + swirling then your dead. Lol
Hello,
I would like to watch a video of you grinding on Succession Witch at Quint Hill or Hexe if possible.
I am learning Succession Witch and I saw that you put her on easiest to play so I wanted to see how RMB gameplay works at end game spots
Also, what kind of trash do you pull on Witch/Wiz?
Thanks! :)
Hahaha, he have no idea how high apm a good succ witch can be..
no apm. just use 1 skill and RMB. according to him 😂
Somewhat disagree with Awa Warrior because of all his cancels, I also played succ zerk and it doesn't feel like Warrior flow is that easy to get down.
For those cancel animations, I believe that people can easily learn those once they get their foundation first! Me testing out all the classes, I can surely tell you that I definitely didn't know all the cancel skills for every class but, what I can tell you is that warrior's key binding is super awesome and very friendly to new bdo players if they need to try out a new class. I can 100% guarantee let you know that because I tested all the classes, and warrior has the friendliest keyboard binding form comparing to all other classes. After learning warrior awakening now and if I do watch any more cool tricks and tips from a guy who actually who plays warrior, those tutorial videos will even make more sense and just build more to my knowledge and will make my future videos even better! :)
Completely missed nova suc rating. She is super easy. Debuffs build into her damage spells 4-5 spells in rotation and u consider her hard? Just watching 3 min long guide will be enough to play her at high lvl. Used to main her
As a content Creator, I still have to think to those people who never played this game and giving the class recommendation. Succ nova definitely has different mechanics comparing with other classes so it's really not recommended to new bdo players. her perm SA when on guard mode can be confusing & annoying to new bdo players when they just want to move around normally, and summon guards, and other abilities that she has can be for sure confusing to new bdo players!
But no worries for those people who wants to learn succ nova, I will eventually make the tutorial videos just like other classes so if they happen to love succ nova, so be it :D
Wow. Im a nee player on bdo. My first season im now at level 58. All the videos told me just pick what you like and I chose ninja. As a beginner ninja is extremely difficult. Theres no blocks. You have to rely heavily on dashes, teleports, and s. And i play on playstation. Since i awakened its been alot easier as almost everything dies within 4 moves. Only thing that doesnt is rift bosses. This is at lvl 56 full awaken. Full tuvala. Head to toe. Crystals for attack speed movement speed and ap
Ninja as a new player, good luck, when you inevitably start from scratch on PC make sure to pick something different xD
hard to believe you have archer harder then kunoichi
why make the background pure white it burns my eyes xD
Turn your brightness down if your eyes burns its your own fault get some sunlight in your life
@@ronaldwestbeal2269 cringe
@@horizonbs779 how is it cringe as someone who works at night and not in a lot of light bright lights hurt your eyes because you aren’t acclimated to it so it’s literally his own fault just like it’s mine when my eyes hurt from light
@@ronaldwestbeal2269 cringe
That’s the point, make you blind
Awaken ranger is not ez tho, the cool downs are wonky...
Well you can chain. Do the spinny shit like w+rmb, then click rmb at the end to extend it, then do w+rmb, then like lmb for another. Dont quote me on the actual inputs but it's whatever the flows are after. Longer you can keep a combo going the more time it has to come off cooldown.
awak ranger has amazing & easy movement skill for pve, and it's spammable which can make the class easy.
Just like @lespretend said, she has amazing flow skills, spammable skills, and overall really good damage which can be friendly for new bdo players. I definitely would like to make the tutorial guide for awak ranger! so look out for those when they come out~! :)
25:30 you're out of screen... visible to us
Oh haha my bad 😆
how can succ hasha be harder than awa hasha? i have played both since release and succ hasha deals a bit more dmg (Q_Q sadly) and have less much skills, so it should be far easyr to play than awa hashashin because a TRUE awa hashashin master use both mainhand + skill addon and awa skilltree + addon . And i talk for PVE . If you want to master both, you have to learn all skills free hand so that you have it saved in your brain + rabam skills. after that you have to put some skills on quick buttons for the perfect use and optimasation like the space button. (i have it on mouse scroll because you have only there 100% freedome of use) . So all in all, to master awa hashashin you need to learn awa+mainhand+skilladdons+ combo flows between them. in succ you only need to learn mainhand combos. So i would prefer to place awa hashashin on hard classes because every streamer i saw for example, play him false and to slow.
thinking twice, you are most likely correct!
Since they buffed pve dmg on awk and added crit dmg on crown kick. It's not worth using pre awk skills. I sometimes use rabams or Al's dominion or ridge river descent to have some fun playing with high apm but just dune slash alone has better dps than them all and it's 5sec cd. You can perform really well easily with awk by just using awk kit + some movements and the tornado of pre awk. The point is awk has long animations allowing you to play with less apm while succ has fast animations with weird cds making it hard to learn an infinite rotation.
Need same video about pvp class From Easiest To Hardest)
where is awakening maegu am i just missing it?
sorry, still haven't tested! this was just based on my part 1 part 2 video where I didn't yet tested awak woosa and awak maegu ( but i did practiced awak woosa so I know her playstyle for difficulty!)
there is no love for maegu (I understand no worries just making sure I wasn't missing it lol) I need her console release so I can finally become my true self @@woothewinner
Maehwa and Woosa are my 2 starting classes, and thought to myself: goddamn these classes are so hard, maybe I should try to pick up another one, maybe it will be easier to play the game.
You just crushed my hopes, I guess the game is just hard overall... 😂😂
The game would be more enjoyable if I could use put the abilities on the skill bar.
Listen mate, I thought the same... I said the same thing about skill bar.. and then... I decided to get rid of all the skills, and just learn the skills and what they do one by one, eventually I started adding them together to create combos.. and bang that was it. Now my win/lose ratio in PvP is 70/30 which is really good, try it mate, you get used to it. Your muscles will remember and do half the job for you
Its actually not that hard to learn. I played about 90 percent of these class and the hard part is understanding what your character can do such as where to grind, how to combo grind, and what to do in pvp. But if you play all the other class, you already know what the other class do so the PvP aspect is cover if you explore other character. Where to grind is important but you can find guide to them easily and people will say where is the most efficient grind spot for you and how to grind the mob or if you play S tier pve class, go anywhere you like. For learning combo, thats the tricky part but its easy to pick up once you understand the combat system and muscle memory of your keyboard. It comes naturally after 30 min to 1 hour of gameplay. It can just be me but thats how I feel like it. Rest assure the combo system is not as hard as playing Street fighter, tekken, or mortal kombat. No need for hit confirm etc lol
Lahn has the sexiest combos
Seriously Im surprised you put Succession Nova and Awakening as something that under the HARD category, I love most of your content Woo but this one I sort of disappointed. Succession Nova is the easiest both PVP and PVE, the only downside is its slow compare to her awakening skill which high apm.
In sucession you can literally press Q and pray for cc in pvp. How is that in the hard category. It should be in easy and her PVE the combo is pretty straight forward and she doesnt have high APM like awakening. Your main thing in succession is to get Axian out at all time and if you want to reset axian, U can shift+spacebar then S+E it will summon Axian again. For her main combo in pve is just hold shift LMB + RMB > shift +F > Shift +Q and you literally get some prebuffs in. Theres more in her combo and its very newb friendly class even in PVP.
Her awakening on the other hand ill put around the middle, because her skill is a lil bit free style with how the skill have very long CD, so you had to play around with her Pre awakening from time to time. and also on PVP it kinda hard because you have to think twice before diving thru and it sort of a in and out class when it comes to PVP. but we're talking about PVE so it shouldnt be in the hard category.
Why do you hate Succ Striker and Succ Nova?
Since when is Awk Warrior considered easy? Also I don't see how Archer can be considered that difficult either, like he isn't the easiest class in the world but he is pretty easy to pick up and play I'd say, hard to master tho.
bring your archer to any end game spot :) tell me how many crystals you're breaking LOL
@@1PercentMomFker I mean I don't think he's an east class but he's definitely not "that" difficult, I'd put him on the lower end of the hard classes probably.
Hey just wondering will you be doing an awakening Lahn class guide? Just starting playing and my brain is melting trying to figure out what abilities to lock and hotkey and what good and so on
I got you! Definitely on my list! Just got Shai guide up today, working on ninja part 2 atm, and hopefully get that started next week or so!
Great video! Awak ranger is definitely one of the easiest PvE classes. Super low apm and and doesn't have to use the C or Q key alot.
i see what you did there my man 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
no awa maegu?
still havent tested her out cuz i wanted to push this video asap
Where is the Succ and awak Ninja?
it cut off! But it's in difficulty
This video's title is about PvE btw. So why everyone talks about skill cancels? Bruh, you must be thinking about PvP then, no?
Can't believe some peoples complaints about your placement lol. You are looking at it with new player perspective. Yes Awak Warr requires knowledge of cancels and so does so many other classes, but you dont need to know them to learn Awak Warr at a base level. Implimenting cancels, tricky movement, etc. is leaning more towards intermediate to advance level play..
trying to decide between ninja and archer
both difficult class but, I honestly think ninja would be a good place! because I have this amazing guide waiting for ya ;)
in other words.. bdo can be ... tricky
I love your videos, you truly work hard for these, you play each one of them to just make a 30 minutes video and you have only 7k subs.
Appreciate you!
Ninja?
it's at the end but I noticed that the video was cut off xD my bad
btw my part 2 for ninja succ is out! check it out if you want to learn more about succ ninja :)
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Kunoichi is hardest undisputed
awake maehwa easy ??
she has easy combos! movement skill is literally W+RMB to dash forward. Very easy friendly for new bdo players!
@@woothewinner ido say she is atleast medium if u fuck up ur combo u legit deal no dmg u have to postion good also ,she is not high APM like some but yea
LMAO succ mystic hard, because it's a gimped class xD
Sage ez mode
Present! I love your videos!
Yay! Thank you!
more videos i love ittt
I had many questions about placing but then i realized if its class guide oriented for NEW TO BDO players, then it makes sense
So people, chill
It doesn't make sense. Take awakening ranger. Can you hold W F to clear pollys? Yes. But people are choosing a class with zero game knowledge. If you advertise that class as beginner friendly based on how effortlessly they kill mushrooms its a massive misrepresentation they will suffer for later if they were looking for a simple class. Once you get to more meaningful pve even as early as serendia elvia awakening ranger is extremely mechanical and high APM compared to most classes, it also has some of the most complicated cancels in the game.
The same argument can be made for succ musa. Can you just spam chase and occasionally hold shift lmb to kill pollys? Yes. But serene mind is not an easy mechanic to learn for most players and the APM is on par with succ ninja once you can't 1 shot mobs. Even stamina management is something newer players will struggle with on succ musa.
Awak ranger is easy? Hahahahahahaha
unpopular opinion: BDO would be better without fucking keyboard + mouse combos, instead of that using the numbers 1, 2, 3, 4 and f1, f2, f3, f4 to cast skills, harder doesn't mean better, in bdo it is harder but there is no reason to make it too hard
If they had a system like that, it would be really nice!
No that's braindead and takes the fun away. Comboing would be boring as hell and the combat system would become as braindead as many other MMO's combat system. Just pick a clas that doesn't require high apm or just...get good.
But you can use most skills from quickslot bar already and you can rebind it to use it with F1, F2, F3, etc. as well.
Other than movements h
Is combo can be a bit tricky too for new bdo players! But don't worry! If you really wanna play her, I have amazing tutorial guide waiting for you :)