Great tutorial, my buddy and myself used it to make some 3 foot swords and some 4 foot swords. The square tip is great for catching pockets and make even glancing blows feel like solid stabs. We used golf clubs for cores. Since I crossgame between amtgard and Dagorhir I wrap the handle in some nice thick rope in order to get a few more ounces of weight. Any way, thanks for the tutorial! We really enjoyed it.
Epic, thanks. I was wondering if anyone has tried gluing a bit of yoga-mat to the tip and seeing if it would pass Belegarth standards. I did Amtgard for a lot of years until my local park died, now I'm in Bel and attempting to adapt some.
As presented, this build won't pass in Belegarth solely because golf shaft is to light of a core to reliably build up to the weight minimum. Simply use a heavier core such as half inch solid fiberglass. Although, it's probably best to use a simpler 'Sword Fry' design that is both heavier and more durable. My design is made to be lightweight and isn't all that durable which is important for more physically demanding games like Dagorhir and Belegarth. foametheus.com/index.php?route=product/product&path=65_61&product_id=51 foametheus.com/index.php?route=product/product&path=65_59&product_id=68
"That's about three months longer than a pool noodle sword will last" ... I've heard that line before...like two weeks ago when I met a guy at Gryphons perch talking about his friend's video tutorial on flat blade amt swords... MUST BE A COINCIDENCE!~ lol
Cool but save the lightweight swords for dedicated sword vs sword or sword and board games. On the field generally there are plenty of people with heavy weapons and these light swords get shattered fast. So best to make 2 swords one for tournaments that is fast and you know what you will be fighting. One for field use that is heavy with extra foam both for it's protection, and those being struck. I use PVC pipe (the heavy gage not the thin) and double the width of the blade, and 2 layers of blade edge foam for my field flat blades.
This is Jagannath The Reaper of Bygones Grove. Would this tactic work for making a strike legal great sword, with a bamboo core, if I just increase the measurments to fit the core?
Sorry for the late reply. Sure, just bare in mind that you may want to add lots more tape to the middle piece when attaching it as this build is made to be lightweight and is a bit fragile as a result.
Thanks for the tutorial. Have you tried useing diffrent density foams in layers? Or is a single foam type good enough? Also have you tried using fabric glue to coat it? Im thinking of the kind they use in cars to glue the fabric to the ceiling.
I've known plenty of players who have successfully mixed higher and lower density foams to build longer lasting weapons. Typically these are Dagorhir and Belegarth players who prefer lifespan to weight and balance. Gluing fabric to the blade is perfectly legal and is typically used on plasti-dip builds.
The Amtgard legal minimum for striking edge width is not defined officially to my knowledge. Try the Official Amtgard Clarifications boards on Facebook to see if it has. The obvious rule of thumb is making it safe. The thinner, the more likely to tear and cheese. facebook.com/groups/AmtgardRules/ That said, this build is kinda bad for that. The outer layer is designed to spread impact along all three inner layers and hold them together. Cutting into it would defeat that purpose. If you're looking to get into making more artistic weapons, I'd recomend looking up Plasti-dip tutorials. facebook.com/groups/plastidip/ ua-cam.com/video/EwfJUBtRMFc/v-deo.html
An Inch and a quarter. Although if you mean Bel/Dag legal stab tip, I have none. This design is for Amtgard and is not Bel/Dag stab legal which requires a softer foam that acts as a decelerator.
While Dap can be heavy, it's a more sturdy adhesive than clear tape. In my experience, clear/packaging tape tends to loosen in combat and leave more complicated builds like mine less than legal after a few months. Although I do use it as a skin to preserve the foam life. I've never weighed clear tape to compare but I'm fairly certain the amount of clear tape needed to keep this build together would out weigh the Dap. The core is more than reusable after the inevitable happens if you're willing to pull the foam apart and remove the strapping tape. .. .. .. .. .. .. .. .. .. ..
This tutorial isn't good for making curved weapons do to just how it's designed to be lite and simple. I think there is no best way to do curved weapons because it's always structually unsound because heating PVC will get you a weak core and attaching it to any core that's already curved will put a lot of force on a specific spot that will degrade very quickly. Though I'd think that Heating PVC and bending it to the shape you want is best for a Jin Tachi. And then using a method similar to this very old tutorial I'll attach to this. I wouldn't follow the tutorial to the T because it's super out of date and is very glue and labor intensive. But as a base to get an idea of how to make a more realistic sword, it's a good place to start. Also I've seen some pretty good Kopeshs made from graphite tennis rackets cut to shape. www.alonatwotrees.com/library/howto/how2flat.pdf Use better foam if you can. Camp pad keeps getting worse and worse.
hi I'm Hou Shenzhai healer for the barony of silvermoon, is there a way you can make curved blades? like a falchion or a shamshir, something to get around those pesky shields..
+Adam Hayes Good to hear from Black Spire. This build isn't the best for making curved blades as it relies on a straight core and so any legal curve wouldn't be enough to wrap around a shield by itself. The best way to get around a shield is to go around it. I find that newer players tend to be very scared of shields and avoid them or when confronted go right into a shield head on. Wait for your opponent to commit forward, either with a shot or step, and move forward and to the side to throw a shot around his shield or to his sword arm. But if you want an advantage without getting better, make a flail. I can't offer much better advice without actually being in OR for someone who's been playing for a little over a month. Other than that, watch SKBC videos.
+Aquila Magna Here's where you can get most every Amtgard combat tutorial. ua-cam.com/play/PL367471F39BC124A7.html Not sure if the link will work but here's a direct PDF download of a flail tutorial that's only slightly out of date. lookaside.fbsbx.com/file/AWSoN_A08_FlailTutorial.pdf?token=AWwJ5nAQ_hMSxXe8Turn4tK7737N9TYpryRp9UCy9W1l2k3gjYLIRD2l_QMawDla-bhN2vnx3Lfbhl5I1qI3NiHCE4cy4CAihxvqM376xBsAvrMAoOGqnuniTwj_VGjoE8FZfQIM54MyM4H8wt0r-CNJqGe_fid48rkODDtLBDaGow
+Chet McGovern I made it myself. I got tired of ruining paintbrushes and getting an uneven application. My friend who helped me shoot this video had a spare piece of leather and I had a spare piece of PVC and we made a channel in the PVC and slid the leather in and bolted it down.
This is a fantastic method that I've used for years. Thanks, Aquila; you're the best!
Exactly what I needed to see im making a halberd with flats everywhere the axe isn't and wasn't sure how to go about it
I'm squishy the mage from the Iron Mountains. This really helped, thanks!
Great tutorial, my buddy and myself used it to make some 3 foot swords and some 4 foot swords. The square tip is great for catching pockets and make even glancing blows feel like solid stabs. We used golf clubs for cores. Since I crossgame between amtgard and Dagorhir I wrap the handle in some nice thick rope in order to get a few more ounces of weight. Any way, thanks for the tutorial! We really enjoyed it.
Gonna put this to use for a few polearms I'm working on. Thanks bud, take care.
Hoping to play in the Emerald Hills sometime this year and I'll definitely need a sword! Thank you for the informative video
This is just what I've been looking for! Thanks!
Epic, thanks. I was wondering if anyone has tried gluing a bit of yoga-mat to the tip and seeing if it would pass Belegarth standards. I did Amtgard for a lot of years until my local park died, now I'm in Bel and attempting to adapt some.
As presented, this build won't pass in Belegarth solely because golf shaft is to light of a core to reliably build up to the weight minimum. Simply use a heavier core such as half inch solid fiberglass. Although, it's probably best to use a simpler 'Sword Fry' design that is both heavier and more durable. My design is made to be lightweight and isn't all that durable which is important for more physically demanding games like Dagorhir and Belegarth.
foametheus.com/index.php?route=product/product&path=65_61&product_id=51
foametheus.com/index.php?route=product/product&path=65_59&product_id=68
"That's about three months longer than a pool noodle sword will last" ... I've heard that line before...like two weeks ago when I met a guy at Gryphons perch talking about his friend's video tutorial on flat blade amt swords... MUST BE A COINCIDENCE!~ lol
Cool but save the lightweight swords for dedicated sword vs sword or sword and board games. On the field generally there are plenty of people with heavy weapons and these light swords get shattered fast. So best to make 2 swords one for tournaments that is fast and you know what you will be fighting. One for field use that is heavy with extra foam both for it's protection, and those being struck.
I use PVC pipe (the heavy gage not the thin) and double the width of the blade, and 2 layers of blade edge foam for my field flat blades.
Slim Jim I use .505 or .524 kitesbar and have never broken one of those cores. Golf shafts though...
What about the pommel? That was my entire reason for watching
This is Jagannath The Reaper of Bygones Grove. Would this tactic work for making a strike legal great sword, with a bamboo core, if I just increase the measurments to fit the core?
Sorry for the late reply.
Sure, just bare in mind that you may want to add lots more tape to the middle piece when attaching it as this build is made to be lightweight and is a bit fragile as a result.
Thanks for the tutorial. Have you tried useing diffrent density foams in layers? Or is a single foam type good enough? Also have you tried using fabric glue to coat it? Im thinking of the kind they use in cars to glue the fabric to the ceiling.
I've known plenty of players who have successfully mixed higher and lower density foams to build longer lasting weapons. Typically these are Dagorhir and Belegarth players who prefer lifespan to weight and balance.
Gluing fabric to the blade is perfectly legal and is typically used on plasti-dip builds.
with some carving and sanding, could i give the blade a bevil and keep it strike legal for amtgard?
The Amtgard legal minimum for striking edge width is not defined officially to my knowledge. Try the Official Amtgard Clarifications boards on Facebook to see if it has. The obvious rule of thumb is making it safe. The thinner, the more likely to tear and cheese.
facebook.com/groups/AmtgardRules/
That said, this build is kinda bad for that. The outer layer is designed to spread impact along all three inner layers and hold them together. Cutting into it would defeat that purpose. If you're looking to get into making more artistic weapons, I'd recomend looking up Plasti-dip tutorials. facebook.com/groups/plastidip/ ua-cam.com/video/EwfJUBtRMFc/v-deo.html
How much stab tip do you have on this sword?
An Inch and a quarter. Although if you mean Bel/Dag legal stab tip, I have none. This design is for Amtgard and is not Bel/Dag stab legal which requires a softer foam that acts as a decelerator.
@@AquilaMagnaLARP yeah I think amtgard needs at least one inch
I will need to make allot of these
Don't use Dap..use clear tape only..lighter, and you can reuse the core when the foam cores out
While Dap can be heavy, it's a more sturdy adhesive than clear tape. In my experience, clear/packaging tape tends to loosen in combat and leave more complicated builds like mine less than legal after a few months. Although I do use it as a skin to preserve the foam life. I've never weighed clear tape to compare but I'm fairly certain the amount of clear tape needed to keep this build together would out weigh the Dap. The core is more than reusable after the inevitable happens if you're willing to pull the foam apart and remove the strapping tape.
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Are there any tutorials for curved blades? I'm trying to build something along the lines of a Jin Tachi.
This tutorial isn't good for making curved weapons do to just how it's designed to be lite and simple. I think there is no best way to do curved weapons because it's always structually unsound because heating PVC will get you a weak core and attaching it to any core that's already curved will put a lot of force on a specific spot that will degrade very quickly. Though I'd think that Heating PVC and bending it to the shape you want is best for a Jin Tachi. And then using a method similar to this very old tutorial I'll attach to this. I wouldn't follow the tutorial to the T because it's super out of date and is very glue and labor intensive. But as a base to get an idea of how to make a more realistic sword, it's a good place to start. Also I've seen some pretty good Kopeshs made from graphite tennis rackets cut to shape.
www.alonatwotrees.com/library/howto/how2flat.pdf
Use better foam if you can. Camp pad keeps getting worse and worse.
hi I'm Hou Shenzhai healer for the barony of silvermoon, is there a way you can make curved blades? like a falchion or a shamshir, something to get around those pesky shields..
+Adam Hayes Good to hear from Black Spire. This build isn't the best for making curved blades as it relies on a straight core and so any legal curve wouldn't be enough to wrap around a shield by itself. The best way to get around a shield is to go around it. I find that newer players tend to be very scared of shields and avoid them or when confronted go right into a shield head on. Wait for your opponent to commit forward, either with a shot or step, and move forward and to the side to throw a shot around his shield or to his sword arm. But if you want an advantage without getting better, make a flail. I can't offer much better advice without actually being in OR for someone who's been playing for a little over a month. Other than that, watch SKBC videos.
+Aquila Magna Here's where you can get most every Amtgard combat tutorial. ua-cam.com/play/PL367471F39BC124A7.html
Not sure if the link will work but here's a direct PDF download of a flail tutorial that's only slightly out of date. lookaside.fbsbx.com/file/AWSoN_A08_FlailTutorial.pdf?token=AWwJ5nAQ_hMSxXe8Turn4tK7737N9TYpryRp9UCy9W1l2k3gjYLIRD2l_QMawDla-bhN2vnx3Lfbhl5I1qI3NiHCE4cy4CAihxvqM376xBsAvrMAoOGqnuniTwj_VGjoE8FZfQIM54MyM4H8wt0r-CNJqGe_fid48rkODDtLBDaGow
Where do you get that leather paintbrush thing?
Or do you have to make it yourself?
+Chet McGovern I made it myself. I got tired of ruining paintbrushes and getting an uneven application. My friend who helped me shoot this video had a spare piece of leather and I had a spare piece of PVC and we made a channel in the PVC and slid the leather in and bolted it down.
I'll have to try that, I am tired of ruining paintbrushes. Thanks =]
I have that same table.
Qual é o material do cano?
Clube de golfe de grafite.
Graphite golf club.