Loved the friendship between Alan and Lesley. He was so much more kind to her than Rick. The phone conversation of Monica and Rick's was like a knife to the heart of Lesley. I felt so badly for her.
What Rick and Monica did hurt so many more than just Lesley and Alan. I hated how they made Alan an attempted killer. I loved the friendship between Lesley and Alan such fondness and mutual respect. Although I liked Luke and Laura they never should have changed the rape to a suduction and made Scotty out the bad guy. Just my opinion.
LOOKING AT SOME OLD FOOTAGE... AND THE HOOPLAH OF LUKE AND LAURA... IS GREAT, BUT THE SHOW WAS SUCH AN ENSEMBLE... I DON'T THINK ONE PERSON EFFECTED THE SHOW'S RATINGS OR SUCCESS... BUT THERE IS SUCH GROWTH AND PROGRESSION OVER THE YRS. 1977-1981... JUST GREAT PRODUCING BY GLORIA MONTY... #LEADERSHIP
I disagree with below comment; it seems Laura shows a clear agitation and determination, on wanting to get away at this crucial time. She feels so conflicted/guilty about feelings for Luke and wants to recapture what she and Scotty had. She thinks if they can just get away, get past this wedding to Jennifer and all things Luke-related, that perhaps she can reground herself and go back to the way things were. She is so distraught, because now that the trip has been cancelled, her only "way" that she knows anyway, to distance herself from her emotions is gone. She is terrified of being drawn irreversibly into the Luke direction. Even though she seems so happy with Luke later, at this point in time, she believed the marriage could have been turned around.
Monica really has no right now to judge Carly. She was just like her. Carly was right when she threw Monica's past in her face at the hospital in 2000?
The situation with Rick and Monica is so deliciously good. Drama at its best. The whole Quad storyline...that goes from 1977 to 1984 when Les dies is just full of wonderful twists and turns. Since then, the show had NEVER been able to do what they did in that time period. I mean, just about EVERYBODY had something front burner at one time or another. And all the storylines branched off into others. I know there are R&M fans out there who loved this period of the story. I was just 6 and 7 at the time, and I knew it was not right. I was a diehard A&M and R&L fan already and just wanted both couples to be together. 1980 was so painful to watch...and it still is.
Well said. I too was relatively young and remember the Monica, Rick, Alan storyline. It was good soapy drama. Preferred it to the Luke & Laura story. This actor potrayed such a good version of the head of the Quartermaine family.
@@ozzielee9058 LOVED David Lewis as Edward. He played a darker side to him, yet he also had a comedic side. He played off of Jane Elliot, Stuart Damon, Leslie Charleson, and Anna Lee very well.
. Scott IS thoughtless. He could have bought Laura a gift or at least a card long before the day of their anniversary and didn't. Luke on the other hand always made over their special days. Total opposites.
I don't think the rape was ever "changed" in the viewers' minds, though. We watched it and we knew what it was. And obviously it was cemented as fact in 1998 when Luke revisited it with Lucky. I just find L&L delightfully twisted, their relationship having a light and dark side. I also think the most compelling part of their story IS the rape and the complicated aftermath.
Jennifer Johnson the 98 revision is the one that made me mad. The version Laura came to accept, convinced Luke to accept should never have been revisited much less changed back. He wasn’t prosecuted because no one thought it was rape. Funny that no one talks about Alan raping Monica.
He was an actor who had had a pretty decent stage career---he had done Shakespeare and some of the classics before his soap career----his career went back to the late '50s! So, that accent was old-fashioned theatrical training: it is the kind of speech that "diction instructors" specialized in..."Rich" meant "quasi-English" back then!
@@CRESCENTII1968 Heh. Yeah, it's called the Mid-Atlantic accent; we learned about it in theater class. :Mid-Atlantic" as in, somewhere in the ocean between England and New York, because there wasn't an actual place where people spoke that way.
@@CRESCENTII1968 I vaguely remember seeing him play Prince Charming on TV when I was a child. He really was one of the best actors on GH, and he never quit the show temporarily to go "find himself" like some of them kept doing. Do you remember him singing "Nothing's Gonna Harm You" to Emily when she was in the hospital? OMG, there weren't enough Kleenex.
I wonder what the reaction was back in the day to the 'rape' storyline. I mean, it's just so casually dealt with even between the principals. Then you see something like "The Accused" and it's like whoa.
Erik Andrus GH has done the rape several times but never more brilliantly and successfully as Luke and Laura. Actually rape was a very serious subject then and many laws were passed including ones regarding martial rape and not exposing a rape victim's name in the news. I would say about 2000, rape began to be less likely to be prosecuted and reported. With DNA, rape kits were often not tested and sat on shelves until the statue of limitations had expired. Only recently have people began complaining about how rape was being prosecuted and interest picked up again.
Herdmentality You haven't watched the early episodes. It was called rape and it is false that it was only mentioned as a seduction. Genie is a very good actress. You are definitely a person who never watched the episodes.
+L ellingw actually I have watched them and the initial reactions were awesome and ground breaking and Genies acting was awesome which is why it pissed me off all the more when they went on the run together and it becomes this huge romance and then Laura's character goes straight back to being this spoiled petulant child in a lot of ways, they had the canvas to do something amazing stood right on the edge and just backed away.
Yeah I only just now realized that actress playing Jennifer was so wooden, I think there was a recast at some point. But the best Jennifer Smith IMO was Roseanne, years later!
Ash Laura is still very young confused and scared because she saw and heard to much. Two Scotty and Luke where older then her. Both Luke and Scotty where obsessed with her too if you think about it long enough. Three Scotty was no bargain.. In fact eaither was Luke if truth be told.... Hello so stop putting the blame or a very young girl!... Its only a soap... plus if it did not go down this way with LnL there may not have been that many fans! ??? GM wanted a young crowd of GH fans to watch anyhoo!!!!???JMVHO! Rosie out!
I REMEMBER THIS EPISODE LIKE IT WAS YESTERDAY! I forgot how gorgeous Monica was....and what a selfish monster! I will NEVER forget how there were TWO "questionable paternity" storylines involving BOTH Weber brothers----At this point the Jeff narrative still hadn't been resolved....Heather got out of the looney bin not long after this, and then finally the PJ/Stephan Lars revelation and Diana's murder....
and then it turned out the baby WAS Allan's and that MONICA was a COMPLETE LIAR whose manipulations drove Allan to ATTEMPTED MURDER....She temporarily destroyed FOUR lives, Allan's, Leslie's, Rick's and her own----it took a very long time for the writers to "rehabilitate" her--- and their priority soon was Luke and Laura, characters who became household names
Loved the friendship between Alan and Lesley. He was so much more kind to her than Rick. The phone conversation of Monica and Rick's was like a knife to the heart of Lesley. I felt so badly for her.
Miss the old background music.
What Rick and Monica did hurt so many more than just Lesley and Alan. I hated how they made Alan an attempted killer. I loved the friendship between Lesley and Alan such fondness and mutual respect. Although I liked Luke and Laura they never should have changed the rape to a suduction and made Scotty out the bad guy. Just my opinion.
LOOKING AT SOME OLD FOOTAGE... AND THE HOOPLAH OF LUKE AND LAURA... IS GREAT, BUT THE SHOW WAS SUCH AN ENSEMBLE... I DON'T THINK ONE PERSON EFFECTED THE SHOW'S RATINGS OR SUCCESS... BUT THERE IS SUCH GROWTH AND PROGRESSION OVER THE YRS. 1977-1981... JUST GREAT PRODUCING BY GLORIA MONTY... #LEADERSHIP
GH was so good
I think it would have been great if Lesley and Alan had a romance
I disagree with below comment; it seems Laura shows a clear agitation and determination, on wanting to get away at this crucial time. She feels so conflicted/guilty about feelings for Luke and wants to recapture what she and Scotty had. She thinks if they can just get away, get past this wedding to Jennifer and all things Luke-related, that perhaps she can reground herself and go back to the way things were. She is so distraught, because now that the trip has been cancelled, her only "way" that she knows anyway, to distance herself from her emotions is gone. She is terrified of being drawn irreversibly into the Luke direction. Even though she seems so happy with Luke later, at this point in time, she believed the marriage could have been turned around.
Good analysis Frances.
Yup... and very well said too. When she says "it's too late"... you know just what she means...
Monica really has no right now to judge Carly. She was just like her. Carly was right when she threw Monica's past in her face at the hospital in 2000?
The situation with Rick and Monica is so deliciously good. Drama at its best. The whole Quad storyline...that goes from 1977 to 1984 when Les dies is just full of wonderful twists and turns. Since then, the show had NEVER been able to do what they did in that time period. I mean, just about EVERYBODY had something front burner at one time or another. And all the storylines branched off into others.
I know there are R&M fans out there who loved this period of the story. I was just 6 and 7 at the time, and I knew it was not right. I was a diehard A&M and R&L fan already and just wanted both couples to be together. 1980 was so painful to watch...and it still is.
Well said. I too was relatively young and remember the Monica, Rick, Alan storyline. It was good soapy drama. Preferred it to the Luke & Laura story. This actor potrayed such a good version of the head of the Quartermaine family.
@@ozzielee9058 LOVED David Lewis as Edward. He played a darker side to him, yet he also had a comedic side. He played off of Jane Elliot, Stuart Damon, Leslie Charleson, and Anna Lee very well.
Didnt know that Luke wrote Laura a letter 9.6 24
. Scott IS thoughtless. He could have bought Laura a gift or at least a card long before the day of their anniversary and didn't. Luke on the other hand always made over their special days. Total opposites.
I don't think the rape was ever "changed" in the viewers' minds, though. We watched it and we knew what it was. And obviously it was cemented as fact in 1998 when Luke revisited it with Lucky. I just find L&L delightfully twisted, their relationship having a light and dark side. I also think the most compelling part of their story IS the rape and the complicated aftermath.
Jennifer Johnson the 98 revision is the one that made me mad. The version Laura came to accept, convinced Luke to accept should never have been revisited much less changed back. He wasn’t prosecuted because no one thought it was rape. Funny that no one talks about Alan raping Monica.
Alan raped Monica?!?
Oh, that doesn’t count .. Wonder how many women feel raped by their husbands, some are even slapped around if they try to refused.
@@SeemaPAmir Yes. Back then it was explained as "forced himself in me."
@@judithjerde1574 In Michigan a man can still legally rape his wife
OMG, I'd forgotten all about Alon's snobby, affected, quasi-British accent back then. He sounded SO much more human in later years.
He was an actor who had had a pretty decent stage career---he had done Shakespeare and some of the classics before his soap career----his career went back to the late '50s! So, that accent was old-fashioned theatrical training: it is the kind of speech that "diction instructors" specialized in..."Rich" meant "quasi-English" back then!
you will often hear it in old black and white films from the 30s and 40s
@@CRESCENTII1968 Heh. Yeah, it's called the Mid-Atlantic accent; we learned about it in theater class. :Mid-Atlantic" as in, somewhere in the ocean between England and New York, because there wasn't an actual place where people spoke that way.
@@CRESCENTII1968 I vaguely remember seeing him play Prince Charming on TV when I was a child. He really was one of the best actors on GH, and he never quit the show temporarily to go "find himself" like some of them kept doing. Do you remember him singing "Nothing's Gonna Harm You" to Emily when she was in the hospital? OMG, there weren't enough Kleenex.
@@nancymcmonarch I don’t remember him singing on GH but his singing in Cinderella was absolutely amazing!
Saw Loanne Bishop--Rose Kelly-- in a 2014 movie called Tiger Orange and she has aged gracefully.
Nice!!!
I wonder what the reaction was back in the day to the 'rape' storyline. I mean, it's just so casually dealt with even between the principals. Then you see something like "The Accused" and it's like whoa.
Erik Andrus GH has done the rape several times but never more brilliantly and successfully as Luke and Laura. Actually rape was a very serious subject then and many laws were passed including ones regarding martial rape and not exposing a rape victim's name in the news. I would say about 2000, rape began to be less likely to be prosecuted and reported. With DNA, rape kits were often not tested and sat on shelves until the statue of limitations had expired. Only recently have people began complaining about how rape was being prosecuted and interest picked up again.
Herdmentality You haven't watched the early episodes. It was called rape and it is false that it was only mentioned as a seduction. Genie is a very good actress. You are definitely a person who never watched the episodes.
+L ellingw actually I have watched them and the initial reactions were awesome and ground breaking and Genies acting was awesome which is why it pissed me off all the more when they went on the run together and it becomes this huge romance and then Laura's character goes straight back to being this spoiled petulant child in a lot of ways, they had the canvas to do something amazing stood right on the edge and just backed away.
Herdmentality I think the story is great.
My mom was not a fan of the rape story line
Totally agree on all counts Debbie!!
Yeah I only just now realized that actress playing Jennifer was so wooden, I think there was a recast at some point.
But the best Jennifer Smith IMO was Roseanne, years later!
I liked Holly Gagnier(sp.), too.
Thanks for the Upload 👍 !! XD I love Monica's 1980's apartment.xd If I a dollar for everytime Monica left Allan !! XD
Young Laura just used the expression emotional stability 😊🙄😂😂😂 pogo sticks have more stability than this chick ever achieves
Lol.
Ash Laura is still very young confused and scared because she saw and heard to much. Two Scotty and Luke where older then her. Both Luke and Scotty where obsessed with her too if you think about it long enough. Three Scotty was no bargain.. In fact eaither was Luke if truth be told.... Hello so stop putting the blame or a very young girl!... Its only a soap... plus if it did not go down this way with LnL there may not have been that many fans! ??? GM wanted a young crowd of GH fans to watch anyhoo!!!!???JMVHO! Rosie out!
Lesley and Alan made a better couple.
Laura does not want to go to Niagara Falls, lol
Laura, is it pms or Luke? lol
Well it could be both????. But in my honest opinion its Luke BIG TIME.... IN THE END IT ALWAYS WAS! ... JMVHO! Rosie out!
I REMEMBER THIS EPISODE LIKE IT WAS YESTERDAY! I forgot how gorgeous Monica was....and what a selfish monster! I will NEVER forget how there were TWO "questionable paternity" storylines involving BOTH Weber brothers----At this point the Jeff narrative still hadn't been resolved....Heather got out of the looney bin not long after this, and then finally the PJ/Stephan Lars revelation and Diana's murder....
and then it turned out the baby WAS Allan's and that MONICA was a COMPLETE LIAR whose manipulations drove Allan to ATTEMPTED MURDER....She temporarily destroyed FOUR lives, Allan's, Leslie's, Rick's and her own----it took a very long time for the writers to "rehabilitate" her--- and their priority soon was Luke and Laura, characters who became household names
Poor leslie