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- Опубліковано 30 вер 2024
- Today Corry shows me what a real British high school curriculum looks like in Scotland! I am still surprised!
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The Scottish school curriculum is still a huge difference from England.
We just like being different :)
I know I was so confused
He said that
Yup, this was all new to me, as someone who went to an English school and teaches in one too
Ik it’s weird how different it is. Tbh I prefer how ours sounds
As a woman, I have no idea where Evan's joke about a period being 3 days long came from. If my period was 3 days I would be in heaven.
mine is hehe
@@gracealice4338 you are blessed, sis. you are very very lucky
Haha mine is
@@gracealice4338 same
Mine's usually about 5 days haha. And I usually get cramps the first day, sometimes fairly mild, sometimes pretty painful, but they usually go away or at least get much better by the second day.
Corry's comment about not knowing the names of maths things is SO TRUE. I was at *university* before I knew what calculus was. I mean, I knew what calculus was - I had been doing it for several years previously. I just didn't know that it was called calculus!
i never understood separating the mathses, they overlap so much!
I still don’t know their names and I did maths courses at uni!!!
Same, I'm German.
@@PiranhaSatan same I honestly preferred learning this way cause we are taught the basic foundational skills and then progressively built on them so we knew how each interacted with the others and at least in my experience my teacher in third and fourth year at the end of each the last period for the week would give us a set of problems that would involve applying multiple different parts of what we've been taught up to that point on one or two questions, and then they'd have a bonus one that would involve stuff we've not been taught yet but seeing if we could work out the answer based on what we already knew, honestly it why I'm a bit of a math geek now.
I'm doing alevel maths I'm confused by the names, all I get is maths and statistics and I know which part is algebra and trigonometry but otherwise I'm lost
All the english people complaining about how Scotland's system is different lol, now you know how we feel when everything 'uk' related really means england
Ikr, so annoying (I'm Scottish too btw)
@@aceatlasska4343 it really is! So self-centred lol
It's so annoying!
@@chrishrcam I know it makes me so annoyed ahaha
they're all so triggered hahaha
As someone who lives in England its fascinating to see how different Scotland is!
Sadly since the nationalists came to power our schools have nosedived.
As an Englishman who lives in Singapore, Singapore is far closer to England than Scotland is!
The Scottish Curriculum is very different to the English curriculum :)
!!!!! Across Scotland its different aswel
The Scottish system is amazingly different to the English one damn
We need Noah for the English one, and Kim for the Welsh one if we can!!!!
@@lucygrayson6034 he already did an English one ages ago, but a Welsh one would definitely be good, and Northern Ireland, I don't really know what they do over there tbh. I'm pretty sure though, that Wales and Northern Ireland also do GCSEs and A levels, like England.
@@lucygrayson6034 think noah was a boarding/private/military school kid tho so that is hugely different to the rest of the population
@@Gingerninja800 That's true, forgot about that lol
Gingerninja800 maybe dodie could do it
School in Scotland is COMPLETELY different to school in wales. I had no idea.
Very much, yes. Not to mention, the Welsh Bacc was introduced just before I left school - I never did it
Yepp
@@TheAnalyticalEngine I did welsh bacc at GCSE and now I'm doing it at college alongside my art and design course
I think wales and england have similar systems the only real difference is welsh bacc. Scotland just rly likes being autonomous
ALA_Legend 02 we sure do
Okay I need a part 3 where you talk through the Welsh or English curriculum coz I didn’t realise how different they are from the Scottish one!
Yes
He should really get a teacher on for a start, because this poor guys knowledge is almost 10 years out of date.
The systems are very different, but I don't think he explained even the Scottish one in a satisfactory way.
Definitely
@@Hydraclone Nah he explained the Scottish system pretty well. The actual system hasn’t changed much since we switched to Nat 5s, the actual exams have but they didn’t really go deep into the exams so most of his information was pretty accurate still
It's.. not diffrent. Just the qualifications are awarded a diffrent title.
I've always thought the British vs American series is really just English vs American because the way we do stuff in Scotland (and wales I'm sure) is often so different so it's so nice to see Scotland properly represented in one of these videos :)
Yes exactly! Has always annoyed me a bit
Yeah! Me too! It's nice to have some variety
Wales is the same as England
@@urath11 wow thanks I guess I'll just throw my entire culture in the bin then shall I twpsyn? Ydych chi'n mor mawr pryd fod i'n siarad iaith y Cymry, DIM Y SAES? ond na! Mae Cymru yn yr un peth â Lloegr 🙄 good luck getting google translate to figure that one out, if you were talking about the curriculum that is also very different from England
@@blodyn7802 Actually I’m from Wales as well and my school was almost identical to the English curriculum with extra Welsh subject, so no I don’t need google to translate Welsh
The idea of a highschool diploma is stupid. Explaining to people that you pass subjects rather than pass "school" often gets a real light bulb moment when they understand how much better it is to be able to go to University based on your knowledge of the subject you're studying rather than being rejected from studying Physics because you failed Spanish.
@fitchbuck It shouldn't have any impact on your university application. If you have the ability in the subjects required, your ability or lack of in any others has no relevance at all.
If you want to study English and nothing else why would you need to have passed economics and PE?
Having to retake a class you don't need to utilize in your tertiary studies in order to begin the studies is mental.
@fitchbuck Well I guess that's what happens when you make education for profit, it turns into a complete mess.
@@Morrivar No, that's not true at all. Most countries don't even have a grade point average, or SATs.
@@bremCZ That simply isn't how universities work in the US. You _don't_ study "English and nothing else." 50% of courses you take at a US university are general education units that build on your general education in high school. I was a film major who also had to take English, Spanish, economics, mathematics, art, biology, and many, many other things. We are there to be educated and well-rounded.
@@SamAronow I know it isn't how universities work. My post wouldn't have made much sense if they did.
If you think that University students in the US are more educated or well rounded because of such a system than nations that don't employ the same system, you're evidence that it doesn't.
As a British High schooler, watching Evan react to the weird stuff that happens in UK schools is the funniest thing to me
Edit: Okay everyone is coming at me for calling it high school and not secondary. Bro it depends on where you are and what school you go to because where I am you can call it either damn /hj
Same
Something so normal to us is so foreign to him it's so intresting
Honey it's a British secondary school student
Same 😂
But what Brit calls it highschool? It’s primary and secondary school! 😂😂 well and then sixth form / college...
As an English person, I was basically reacting the same way as Evan to the Scottish system. I did not understand it at all
As a Scottish person, I'm not sure I understood the way it was explained! :P
High school is 6 years. In first and second year, you have no choices. You do lots of subjects, but that just gives you a flavour of them. You have tests, but they don't count. They just give you an idea of how well you're doing.
Under the old system, 3rd and 4th year would normally be Standard Grades. These are similar to GCSE level, but we'd do 8 of them (so I guess they were a bit heftier than GCSEs). You pretty much had to do English and Maths, and probably a language and a science.
Then 5th year, you'd do 5 Highers.
Then 6th year, a mix of Highers and Advanced Highers.
Highers are like A levels. AHs are like 1st year Uni.
The new system basically replaced Standard Grades with National 4s and National 5s, each being done over 1 year.
Oh, and some schools used a different system, replacing SGrades with Intermediate 1 and Intermediate 2. Int1 was just under SGrade, and Int2 between them and Higher.
@@andymcl92 the tests in the subjects in 2nd year are to determine what level you will be studying a chosen subject in 3rd. tested at the end of 3rd to then see what level you will be studying in 4th. we were tested as soon as we got into 1st year, to see what level we would be studying through first and second.
@@D1str1ct Yeah, sorry, I sort of meant to imply that. But I decided a discussion of Foundation, General, and Credit might just make things less clear, at least in written form!
@@andymcl92 almost. A scottish higher is only one year and is more like an AS level. Our advanced highers are more like Alevels. My english husband now teaches here in Scotland so can compare very well. I agree that Noah made what is relativley simple seem really complicated.
Scots have one damaged education system
the 1 dislike is cause UA-cam hasn't processed the 4k yet 😞
The 1 dislike is because we don’t get a diploma 😤💀
So to get the true amount of dislikes we have to multiply the number by 4000?
You need to do a new video with an English person, the English curriculum is completely different and I think a lot better
Agreed need to do a video with Welsh/English representation. They are pretty similar in layout (I’m Welsh) however Scotland is vastly different.
Also I have to add that in Wales we were always being told what topic etc we were learning. Yes the paper is fairly mixed however when tonight we are told when learning what each topic is.
🤣🤣🤣🤣
When I was about 13, my dad took a job that brought my whole family from Texas to the Netherlands (Holland) for about a year and a half. I had just been in middle school when we kids were pulled out for the move, with only two weeks remaining in the school year. When we got to the Netherlands, we had a couple of months to get settled in before school started. I had a total of around a dozen classes my first year in the Dutch school system, and perhaps 14 starting my second year there, when we moved back to Texas. I started my Texas high school career as a sophomore, but I already had enough credits that I could pick nothing but electives for my junior year (except for the mandated junior English), and at the end of my junior year, I had enough credits that I only needed to take one semester of a mandatory senior class before I could graduate at the end of the first semester of my senior year, with credits to spare. I got my diploma and everything, because of coming in as a sophomore with the equivilent of 16 credits.
And it was all because of the number of different courses I took in the Netherlands. Each weekday had a different schedule of courses, and even a different number of courses each day, including four different languages (Dutch, French, German, and English) and four different math courses (as in geometry, algebra, trigonometry, and beginning calculus, though I had to show my counselor the kind of problems I was doing for her to identify the courses--I knew what the names were in Dutch, not in English), plus a few other things like health, home economics, music, physical education, art, and I seem to remember the list being longer, but that was four decades ago now. Anyway, the counselor who was helping me get placed for classes was amazed at the class load we had been doing, and told me that "we don't do classes like that until college!"
All I knew was, even though I had to struggle to do my classes in the Dutch language over there, I still felt like I learned more over there than I did "back home" in Texas.
Funny reading this from a foreign point of view. In the Netherlands, Dutch and English are compulsory from 1st year of secundairy education up until the last year. Math, biology, history, art, French, German are compulsory in the first three years. In the third year physics and chemistry are added. After the third year you had to choose what you wanted to become when grown up so you could drop whatever you didn't need where you had to keep 7 if you wanted (Dutch & English included) when you're doing Higher general vocational education (HAVO = 5 years) and 8 when doing pre-university education without Greek and Latin (VWO - Atheneum = 6 years). You could also do pre-university education (VWO - Gymnasium = 6 years) with Greek and Latin and then you would have those languages from 2nd year up until the last. In the Netherlands you have to pass all final exams in order to get your diploma. If you don't pass all the final exams, you would receive certificates for the courses you did pass. But things have changed from when I was in secundary school (+20 years, lol) and I believe that children now have to choose a certain direction/package of courses at age 13, instead of 15. Physical education (what we'd call gym) was also mandatory troughout all years. I believe it was two hours a week of hardship, I hated it because wasn't into sports and running. There were also elective courses like Spanish. I believe that from 4th year we also got economics and commercial sciences.
We also started English in primary school, at the age of 10 I believe.
you definitely did learn more in the Netherlands. US students routinely test lower than people from third world countries who you’d think wouldn’t just because of a lack of resources for their schools. But nope. US has different school tiers. One to keep the masses dumb and obedient to a system that exploits them, one that is a school-to-prison pipeline and one that is the elite and actually teaches critical thinking. But without the genius visa the US would’ve run dry of smarts a long time ago
Many US states/cities have lessened course requirements.
The schools I attended did not carry your record to the next school.
If I did something in the sixth grade, it did not follow me to the 7th or to high school.
The only time your record follows you is if you attend the same school from k-12, or you live in a small town where everyone attends the same schools.
The US frowns on requiring students to take foreign language courses. As a kid in school we were told we needed to be prepared because in the bear future Spanish along with the metric system would be required. This was when I was in grade 3.
We actually studied and learned the metric system, because they said the US would be metric only by the time we reached high school.
Many US cities and PTAs fought against requiring Spanish, and the US never totally converted.
I think the US school system should graduate students from high school at age 20.
The school I attended prepared it's students for the workforce and college. Went I graduated i already had some college credits.
Some students attended high school and took university courses together.
By your sophomore year you had to choose a major, from aviation to welding, or A to Z.
English in some form was required, it could be a journalist class as I did. Science is required I believe 2 yrs. These courses last 2 class periods.
The majors in the senior year are 4 class periods.
I don't think the high school curriculum is a stringent now as it was in the 70s thru 80s.
That's kind of like what happened to my sisters when they moved from virginia to NewYork with my dad. My oldest sister already had enough credits to graduate in 10th grade, and my other sister whos one year older than me in 8th grade was taking algebra 2, 11th grade math.
Post-16, you have to stay in full time education until you're 18, and in England, it's either A levels (mostly academic), B-tecs (mostly vocational) or an apprenticeship. And in England, the usual amount of A-levels is 3, but some people take 4 (its difficult), and I know one person that has taken 5 A-levels!
Ive just had a look, you can leave full time education at 16 in every country in the Union. However you must stay in some kind of education or training, be that full or part time, until 18 in England. At least according to the Government website (didn’t know that about England till I checked, I was surprised).
My brother did 5 A's, 2 A*'s and left school at 17 to form a band. Hard act to follow!
Some blighter in my college took five a-levels and got almost all A.
In England our GCSEs are each separate qualifications, so I finished high school with 11 GCSEs which is 11 separate qualifications. I am currently doing 3 A-Levels but you can do 4 and drop one or fully complete them. We also have EPQs which is a research project which equals half an A-Level. We used to have AS Levels which you only did for a year which were also half an A-Level. Our A-Levels are also separate qualifications and we need them to get into university. Universities will have set grades like ABB which they want you to achieve in your A-Levels so they will accept you.
And you only get to choose 3 of the GCSE’s. The rest are mandatory stuff: English, Maths, RS/RE, Biology, Physics, Chemistry, ICT (which is just Word, Excel and stuff and I’m pretty sure that’s just something my school did. Also it’s a B-Tech not GCSE)
We also have to do PE but not as a Qualification and Personal Development which I swear has a different name in literally every school.
Is there an institution you attend to complete A levels?
@@drawde_064 i think the amount of options you get for gcse depends on what school you go to? like welsh and re/rs are mandatory gcses in my school because it's a religious school in wales
@@drawde_064 Also what you can choose from is chosen by the school there are literally hundreds of GCSEs from astronomy to archaeology to classics to business
@@lazycrazyapes Yes college or sixth form, however, some of these, like mine, are attached to your high school so goes from year 7 (age 11) to year 13 (age 18)
me: *crying over a dumb boy*
evan:*posts a video*
me: *clicks quickly and stops crying*
*cracks knuckles* who do I gotta fight
what if that dumb boy was evan?
@@evan oh wow. no one. he just doesn’t feel the same as me
@@alliel454 then he doesn't realise what he's missing out on
@@Tzephkiel 💕
As a Scottish high schooler (currently in my last year) I’m happy to see someone talking about Scotland’s system of schooling bc I’ve only ever seen English school system being talked about on UA-cam! 😂
Yesss same !!
Have a great last year! Make it an amazing S6.
Exactly! Good luck in your last year btw
Good luck in S6 I'm in S2 so haven't been through it yet. But high school is the best, hope you have a great last year!
As an English teacher,(retired now) a lot of this is news to me too. I didn't understand what 'highers' were, in fact I think I understood the U.S. System better than the Scots one.
Now that I see how you are taught all the different types of math as one it makes sense how you call it maths plural.
One thing I'd add is you can continue to add to your SQA qualifications after you leave school. If I decided to do a college course in my 30s and I got an HND that would be added to my SQA results from school. I recently did a short course for work and it's been added on, in effect it's a lifelong learning system.
I don't think they got it right about colleges in this video. I did an HND in Music Business in Glasgow, I would call it operational rather than vocational... with my HND I was able to receive 3rd year-entry to three unis, but due to personal craps, I have declined the offers :( They portray the colleges like heavy duties working training, whereas at least for what I have done I can easily top-up my HND in a BA.
For alevels the amount you can currently do is technically five however that's only if u feel like torturing yourself...
Most schools won't let you do five but the majority let you do four- they just discourage it cos it is hard
You can do 6 in Wales because of the Welsh Bacc, which is like the EPQ×4
You’re only allowed to do 4 but most encourage you to do 3
@@calitopleynassar4669 no you can do 5, my friend is currently taking 5 a levels but dropped 1 after year 12 so is doing 4 a levels and 1 AS
my school didnt even give us the option of 5 alevels
@@sofiat3970 yh u gotta go to a one of the posh/'high up' schools I'm guessing. My school didn't either
Trust me you wouldn't want to tho
"Most schools in the UK will have your full set of foreign languages" - I wish! My school (and most others I'm aware of in Aberdeenshire) had at most two foreign languages (French and German in my case). Someone I knew wanted to take Spanish, and since we had no official Spanish classes she got one-on-one lessons with a music teacher who happened to know Spanish.
Edit: (added "in my case")
we only have spanish & french at my school
Yh same mine was french and spanish
My daughter is about to transition into secondary school in SE England and her top pick school only offers French. It wasn't seen as an oddity at all.
@@tabindashamaoon124 i wish we had things like german
It sounds like Corry went to school in a city, and I expect the greater population density would mean that there are a wider variety of teachers local to city schools (although this is just speculation)
the “asked to leave” thing is because (i’m not sure of the detailes) once someone is expelled it makes it MUCH more difficult for them to go to a new school than if they were “asked to leave”
well, it's less that and more it means ALOT of paperwork on the school. As it has to be proven to the school board, and back before privatisation, then go before the Local Educational Body. And then there are statutory right for appeal with the internal system, and if it's upheld, the parents could take the school to court for the dispute.
People in England get excluded which can be from 1-14 days , they could get expelled which is permanent or the new thing is a manage move so the school your at moves you to a school in the area depending on school but some schools your a loud back after like 2 weeks and others you have to stay full time at the new school
My three children went through the school system in England. Compared to my Canadian education, the system they went through was far harder. My first and second year chemistry at a Canadian university was about equivalent to their A-level. The grades they received were very important to their university applications. It just seemed a shame that they had to narrow their options so soon. And by the way, my oldest took five A-levels with no problems.
School in S.E England was very different to Scotland. To be honest though I do wish the curriculum had been more diverse with options and not strictly barred to certain levels. For example, I went to an all girls school and I was (and still am) very bad at maths. When it came to choosing my GCSE options I wanted to do History, but when I showed my choices to the advisor they tried to persuade me to drop History and do Hair and Beauty instead.
Thankfully, my shy little 13 year old self actually said 'no' to an adult.
The reason the school was trying to push me off History was because they saw me as a weaker student (mainly because of my Maths) and they only wanted the very best performing students in their 'Academic' classes; they also received an extra amount of funding from the government for more students to do things like Hair and Beauty. I was allowed to do History, which I loved and studied in University, but if I hadn't stood up for myself back then my life could have turned out very differently - I would have made for a TERRIBLE hair dresser!
Sorry for the long essay of a comment but my point being is that here in the UK we force kids to specialise way too fast and sometimes the choices provided are not in the best interests of the student or the choice completely taken away from some kids not deemed 'smart enough'.
you should do this with someone from england as its different
Yes VERY
Even then, different schools in the England are different too
@@jakewatson668 But they generally have the same core stuff - English lit and Lang, some sort of science (single dual or triple or whatever they are) and maths (foundation or higher plus further
Which has just shown that even the core stuff varies a lot
Our school does triple or dual science and higher maths, all of top set does further maths as well
Also hearing about Scotland is so confusing 😂 in England you take 8-10 GCSEs which you choose in year 8/9 (at my school we have to do maths, English, a language and at least trilogy science and then up to 4 that you choose yourself). You have to get at least a 4 (c) to pass a subject - your grades determine the subjects you can choose for A levels (eg for biology I need to get a 6 in two sciences, a 6 in maths and a 4 in English literature). A levels are after GCSEs you do 3 or 4 and these subjects grades determine what degrees you can do in uni ✨
It's at least double science... Is that the same thing?
@@janani1826 yeah trilogy is the same as double science but you have to still take all 3 sciences you just get 2 grades that are averaged out
I've been out of school for 10 years now but my school was an arts school. We had to do the basics (maths, English, science (all 3 subjects)), then we had to do a language (french or Spanish), and an art (music, dance, art or drama). Then we got to choose what other subjects we wanted to take but you had to choose one subject from each block of subjects so sometimes it was choosing the best of a bad bunch
8-10?? i did 14 😂
Bruh I took 11 GCSE’s. My sister took 12. Whr r u living and can I join
In England everyone has to do maths and english lit and lang up to gcse level (y11/5th year), all subjects are compulsory in y7 and 8, then you choose 4-5 other subjects for gcse (most schools make you do combined science or triple science in addition), then for a levels (y12 and 13) you can do 3-4 of any subject you want. Some schools do IB or btecs instead of a levels, which are similar but with different subjects on offer
Yep
I only had to choose 3 GCSEs because my school was Catholic so we all had to take RS
My school made us do PE, combined science/triple science and either History,Geography or French
THEN we could choose 3 other subjects
(2 if you chose triple science)
you can do btecs alongside a levels - i’m doing 3 a levels and a l3 btecs right now :)
True
Welsh person here! For us, we take all subjects for the first two years (Year 7 & 8) and then in Year 9 we start studying for our GCSEs. We had to do English maths welsh and all three sciences. We then choose 4 more subjects to take as well. Justice for Wales!!
Interesting. The Welsh curriculum seems very similar to the German one.
For our German Abitur (= general university entrance qualification, you can study any subject, regardless of which courses you have taken), you have to take 2 to 3 advanced courses in the last two years, which you can choose yourself. However, one of them has to be either math or German (literature) or a foreign language or natural science / computer science.
Advanced Course means you have 4-5 lessons (1= 45min.) in it.
You have to take additional basic courses in all other subjects, some only for one year, some for both years. It depends what advanced course you have chosen. Basic course means, you have 1 to 3 lessons a week in it.
Physical education, religious education/ethics/philosophy, German (literature), math, a foreign language, a cultural studies subject (History, Social and Political Science, Economics) or Geography, and a natural science class must be taken for two years. A second foreign language, another natural science subject, another cultural studies subject, art or music or theater must be attended for at least one year
As in UK it differs between the federal states, but not as much as between Wales, Scotland and England it seems.
@@Frohds14 Interesting. It seems that your Abitur Exam is similar to our A Levels which we take after our GCSEs
Are you 17/18 when you take it?
@@roisinbd2825 It depends on... At some places grammar school (what we call Gymnasium) lasts 8 years from 5th to 12th grade, then you are 17/18, but at most places grammar school lasts 9 years, from 5th to 13th grade, then you are 18/19. I myself got my A-Levels two days before my 19th birthday.
They tried to shorten it to 8 years (=G8) in the 2000s, but unfortunateley forgot to skip some oft the topics in the subjects. So all children and their parents were very stressed, all the stuff they had to learn in shorter time now, so, after only three years G8, most grammar schools did return to G9.
It's still Humbolds ghost wo spooks in our grammar schools. But there's another way to get A-Levals, it's called Fachabitur. Which is in a way more 21st century.
@@Frohds14 Wow that seems complicated. But I guess the UK structure would be a bit complicated for anyone else to understand
I fell into a bit of a trap with "choosing sciences" bit in school.
This was in the early 90s England, and we were heavily discouraged from picking more than 1 science because it would be a huge amount of work. Which is fair, sciences are p. heavy.
I picked physics because it was the most interesting to me of all the basic intros we'd done up until then, and it was okay. I wasn't great at it, but I managed.
Decades later I've dipped into chemistry on my own, and I found myself wishing there would have been some way for me to have known about the existence of even a fraction of this stuff back in school because I 100% would have picked this instead of physics, if only I had known.
But back then all we we given was a really bland and uninteresting "run up" and then told to pick something. No backsies.
I'm Scottish I got to choose 2 from the 3 sciences if we wished. I chose 2. Biology and Chemistry. I obvs had English and Math along with Spanish and French, Geography and modern studies (politics and a bit of psychology and sociology etc). My highers were English, Math, Biology and Chemistry. I didnt have to do advanced highers as my 3 As and a B in my highers was enough for my Uni and course of choice.
I chose Biology in the US high school system, but switched to physics in college. So, it's not too bad.
Early 90's England here and you had to do 2 sciences unless you were in the "special" class. Some of the top students took all 3 (this is at GCSE level).
My US high school had a different science each year. I think the remedial students started with Earth science, followed by biology, chemistry, and physics, and the normal path was to start with biology and finish with astronomy -- but we could choose to take the AP version of any of the previous courses instead. I chose AP physics, and after I and the other AP students took our exams and some left for their "Senior Experience" (a short internship), the classes were combined for a couple of cross-disciplinary labs -- first they came to our classroom and built model rockets with us, then we went to the biology classroom to learn about DNA forensics testing.
I went to a state university and got a bachelor's (4-year) degree with a double major in math and computer science (which just means I satisfied the requirements for both majors, each serving as the minor for the other). If I'd earned 20 more credits and minored in a third subject (which probably would have been psychology), then I could have gotten two separate bachelor's degrees, but I didn't think it would be worth the extra effort.
Damn the Scottish system is really different to the English one. I did all of the subjects year 7-9, then chose GCSEs, but that was a pretty limited choice because we had to do maths, English lit and language, triple science (although I think most schools do double science as well) and then at least one foreign language and at least one humanities (history, geography or RS) as well as two more additional subjects for year 10-11 (+ further maths if you’re smart). Then a levels you basically pick 3/4 of those or any other subjects your school/college offers for year 12/13. My timetable is very different too, at my school we have 5 one hour lessons a day (sometimes including doubles and triples) and so we don’t do every subject every day (which I’m happy about because that sounds stressful). It’s really interesting learning about how different places do it! :)
Yeah that's pretty much how it was in my school in England, Scotland really Iikes doing there own thing.
Yes, 5 lessons a day, each lasting one hour - I am so confused about how they can do *8* lessons a day!
This is how I did it, it’s called EBacc (or English baccalaureate) but in my school you were only given these choices if you were “smart” because I think it was meant to benefit you more in the future with getting jobs maybe?? Everyone else got to choose whatever subjects they wanted
In my school (Scottish) we have 7 periods and they are all 45 minutes long
It used to be similar to that in Scotland too
“Why would you bring guns?” OBVIOUSLY YOU ARENT AWARE OF THE PROBLEM WE HAVE IN THE US
So how exactly would even more guns help that?
@@maximilianbeyer5642 I think that you’re thinking that my comment was pro-bringing guns to schools, but I mean it as people really do bring guns to schools in the US. So that’s why we have those rules
When I attended high school in the late 60's it wasn't uncommon to see pick-up trucks in the parking lot with two or three guns in a gunrack fully visable through the rear window and no one thought anything about it. This was of course in a rural area of Oregon where guns were used on a daily basis. Most of the kids I went to school with also carried a pocket knife every day and this was considered absolutely normal. We had no school shootings and nobody was ever stabbed.
@@caseyparker6375 Respecc+
@@caseyparker6375 wait Holy guacamole how old are you? You must've been at least 13 to attend high school ( I think) and that was in the 60s... so 13 + 61 = 74..... Damnn congrats to you sir!
'they 'give up' and do 3' AHHHHHHHHEVAN DO U KNOW HOW MUCH PAIN A LEVELS CAUUSE
If you're interested Evan, I'm a secondary school teacher in England, London specifically. A lot of what was said here was specific to Scotland not the rest of the UK.
I'm also the RS, Citizenship and PSHE lead in my school. So if you are adding more to this series then I'd be happy to answer any queries.
Definitely prefer the UK style especially since when I went to school we had very little choice over what to take and electives were not made as much a priority.
Hello and welcome to a man wishing he could go back in time just to go through the British education system :)
It isn't all it's cracked up to be.
@@JustAnotherPerson4U Ik it’s not the best but I think I’d still prefer it to the US as I do better in exams lol
@@yasdrums I wish desperately to have been through a system that balanced between exams and coursework better. And one that actually loomed out for me.
Because I needed extra time and a seperate room for exams. A laptop in my exams. But I never got it because my Dyslexia and ASD was undiagnosed, and it wasnt spotted because I was a girl so I naturally camoflagued it unconsciously and I just barely got by on ok marks which was through trying my best... i could've done better... but I didnt have the right support.
It's both relieving and soul-crushing to know this years later... i wish desperately to go to my old headmaster and tell him to his face how he blatantly failed me. How he and his staff should've spotted something and actually got me the support. Not just bungle me like a problem child. 🥺
I'm aware that most people are fine in a school system but... mine wasn't good for me. It failed me spectacularly. I slipped through the nets and system, and it isnt a good feeling.
Them: *talking about how their schools had electives*
Me, here in my third-world country: YOU COULD CHOOSE!? 😨
well here in Germany in my state capital our high schools had to pool classes for foreign languages, so if you wanted to do Russian you had to travel to another school for that. And our school’s elective was like Spanish or Spanish or Media which was doing the lighting for the school’s concert. And all our basketball’s for PE had bumps. Germans has the money but definitely puts none into its children’ education
High School is Scotland is basically
1st Year- Make friends
2nd Year- Keep you friends
3rd Year- Start Working
4th Year- Work Hard
5th Year- Work really hard
6th Year- work hard but enjoy yourself
I wish.
6th year for me was so enjoyable lol I took art, cake decorating and photography 😂
@@xlaurensxx in my advanced modern studies class, we did absolutely nothing. The teacher almost never showed up. Whenever we had class first thing in the morning, we would have a roll day. Basically, we'd bring in £1 and one of us would go up to the bakers and get sausage rolls/bacon rolls. Thats the only day the teacher would show up. Whenever we had class for the final period, we'd just go home early. Whats amazing, is that everyone actually passed.
Sorry but none of it is enjoyable
6th - work hard until you get uni offers and then piss about for the rest of the year
🇿🇦South African curriculum You do:
-Home language(any of the 11 official language), English, Maths, Life Orientation first day in primary till you graduate high school
*If you fail to meet the minimum required you repeat that year all over
-science, technology, creative arts, Geography, History(countries history+world history) from primary till end of second year in highschool
*If you fail to meet the minimum required you repeat that year all over
-beginning of 3rd year in High School you pick certain subjects depending on your choice of H.S (life science, physics, accounting, electrical, mechanical, civil technology).
*Again if you fail to meet the minimum required you repeat that year all over
You can repeat same grade possible 2,3 times BUT they might take pity on you if you get too old for the grade.
"our class periods were 40 minutes"
*mine were an hour and a half*
welcome to florida
Sounds like mine in Georgia. 4 classes a day, each an hour and a half.
Yeah but we have 8 in a day. I’m guessing you didn’t, if they were an hour and a half long. That’s a really long school day otherwise
I used to have periods of 3 to 4 hours and 4 periods on the busiest days XD
ours were 1 hour in England, when we hit college they became 2 hours (16-18 years old)
no one:
the comments: sCoTlAnD’s WeIrD aNd DiFfErEnT
Cause nobody is understanding what Scotland is doing unless you went to school in Scotland 😂😂😂
@@terynb4407 mostly because the explanation of it was a complete mess. I work in the system and even I got confused with how he explains it
Hey Evan, just wanna let ya know that Scotland and England's education systems are very different. England's school system is moderated by Ofqual, while Scotland uses the SQA (Scottish Qualifications Authority), meaning that class setups, how classes are run and a few other things are quite different between countries.
I have to take my GCSEs this (academic) year and I’m screwed 😂
Same
Same but I might not have to do them because of covid
Good luck
Same
maybe you get to do it at home
About choosing how many subjects in “third year” (GCSE’s)
You must do Maths (calculator and non-calculator), English (literature and language) Science (Physics, Chemistry and Biology), RS and Games (gym)
Then it varies from school to school, personally I had to do a language (French or Spanish) and then had 3 options (options include things like : second language, history, geography, art, drama, economics etc.) and so it’s about 9/10 subjects a week, when you get to ALevel you choose 3 or 4 subjects, as mentioned many people start out with 4 and drop one.
I went the whole video just going “it’s curricula, not curriculums” in my head
It's one of those bonuses of not caring about Lingua Latina since your curriculum didn't have any on board.
So sad you spent the whole video doing that, since they were speaking English and not Latin. Curriculums is a perfectly acceptable and correct plural for curriculum.
Okay it’s scary how well the CfE is engrained in my memory- still striving to be that confident individual amiright
Also on the music aspect, some Scottish councils still fund free 30 min music lessons once a week for students who can then learn an instrument through the school and do grades- even without taking music as a subject!
If you take a sqf level qualification through your in school private lesson thing then you can get it free, I think it’s so good because they lend you the instrument too
Yeah my school used to but recently introduced payments, they're not doing so well with the funding aspect, my friend's parents used to both be instrumental instructors, but her mum got cut basically, her job there doesn't exist anymore
Yeah, I was able to learn the tenner horn for three years.
It's worth adding that those 30min lessons also take you out of other subjects. So, each Wednesday, I'd miss 30mins of another class to go learn Saxophone. Which class it was rotated through the timetable each week.
They really need to get someone from England to teach them both about our curriculum, they'd both be so shocked by it cause it's so different
I'm English and have lived in Scotland and Scotlands system is terrible now
@@dominicbarstow1450 yip down hill since the nationalists took over.
@@2frate yeah
Same with Wales 🤣
I have to say, Scottish “highers” and nationals are different to my experience in England 😂. I took 9 GCSEs of which u had to take English Language and Literature, Maths, Combined science or Triple (which is like advanced Science), a Language or Humanties, a Tech subject and then 2 of ur choice. So I took English Lang and lit, maths, triple science (3 separate GSCEs) Spanish, Art & Design and Drama.
Then ALEVELS, u take 3 and that’s it (unless u take an EPQ which is a research project) so yea :)
We were forced to take 11!
you can take up to five a-levels
Standard Grades (& the new equivalents) are similar to GCSEs. You have to choose 8:
▪︎ Maths
▪︎ English (includes English Lit)
▪︎ 1 language (minimum)
▪︎ 1 science (minimum - biology, chemistry, or physics)
▪︎ 1 social science (usually history, geography or modern studies)
+ two from: art& design, music, business studies, psychology, computing, tech(nical) studies^, P.E. (as a subject, so including anatomy, physiology etc. in movement/sport); additional science/ language/ social science subjects).
Up to 5 Highers, which have to come from your SG subjects. In S6 you can do more Highers, Advanced Highers, or a mix.
(^I just watched the first part, Tech Studies includes technical drawing + graphic design and craft & design/ 'woodwork' or 'shop'.)
@@gmun2248 You broke that down really well. The main difference is English GCSE’s are worth more credits than Scottish Nat 5’s, but Scottish Highers are worth more credits than English A-levels. Credits are really only worth anything though if you are trying to get in to University and need certain grades.
I took 12 GCSEs and 4 A-Levels, but most people I know did 9 and 3
I went to High school 65 years ago. You went in. You sat down at your desk. You had lessons in Maths, English Language. English literature. Geography, History , music, Chemistry, physics, biology, French/German/Latin. P.E R.E. Unless you needed a laboratory, or gymn, the subject teacher came to you. At 16 I took ‘O’ level. I passed 6 subjects. I did 1 year of ‘A’ level, then did 2 years at teacher training college.
More or less the same in Scotland then except we had O Grades, highers and sixth year studies. Minor differences in those days between both countries. Secondary school was and still is started a year later in Scotland than in England so 1st year in Scotland was equivalent to 2nd year in England. England changed from 1st year to upper sixth in the 90s to a more American grade system for some reason, i.e year one to year 11.
We stayed the same here in Scotland on that front.
Would be amazing to see Evan watch Educating Yorkshire/Greater Manchester/The East Rnd
Evan should do a video explaining 2020 to himself 😂😂 his political rant last week was BRILLIANT
That would be amazing
I’m from England. Trying to understand the Scottish curriculum is so confusing. It’s so different 😂
Interesting Scotland seems pretty different to English schools at least in some aspects then again my school was a shithole
I don't know, but the Scottish educational system seems like it places so much more power of choice in the hands of the individual. I love it; and there's been a debate on the effectiveness of standardized tests in America for years now.
The primary difference is that instead of having one big diploma you gain individual qualifications in a given subject. And that matters for applying for jobs, colleges, universities or specific programs. I.e you might need specific Highers to do a specific course or job.
We also don't graduate, really. There's no ceremony or anything. You finish school, get your exam results mailed to you in the summer, and then start uni or whatever else you do in September.
Although I went to uni with a lot of Americans here in Scotland and they absolutely will use all their terms without any explanation and get quite baffled when you have no clue wtf a GPA, High School Diploma, Freshman or Major and Minor is.
I'm from Wales and I find it very nice that at the end of high school Americans have a graduation ceremony with gowns and everything. It would be cool to have more of a celebration over here too
Yeah usually a poorly organised prom if that and then disgusting house parties all summer 😂
@@rhonplays Even proms are comparatively new here. My kids had them, but they weren't a thing when I was at school.
"They start with 4 and then give up and take 3?", how dare you, Evan. Did not expect to be called out :')
My school is literal trash. I wanted to take music for my GSCEs but they said I couldn't because they can't afford a music teacher because they spend all their money on pointless things like smart boards (we used to just have projectors which worked better). They really don't care about the arts
It's sad but I guess I have to deal with the fact that I'll never be able to study it.
Yeah in my yeargroup there are 2 people doing music for a level and I think about 10 of us doing performing arts. Apparently the careers teacher went round some of the class and advised them to switch subjects... the hatred of the arts is real
You could be working in cyber security, you just don’t know it yet
Yeah that's government funding for you. Schools get a pot of money and told what they can spend it on. "digital whiteboards for every classroom? Hell yeah" "traing for all the teachers on how to use said technology? F you" - love from the Tories.
That’s sad 😢
Don't blame your school. Over the last half a decade, at least, funding for art based subjects has decreased while funding for STEM subjects has gone up.
Too many people leave school (and Uni) unable to find a job. It's usually because they've taken something in the arts. The Government doesn't see it as a worthy investment.
I want to go to school in Scotland. I'm here in the Midlands and my A level courses have 2 hour lessons...
3 hours now due to covid time table :''').
3 hours?!?!!! 2 Hour physics lessons on a Monday morning near killed me.. (north Lincolnshire). Good luck
Because of covid some of our lessons in Scotland have turned into triples 😭 I’ve got triple higher maths tomorrow, it’s honestly not much better
I’m from Scotland and we do have double periods which are basically 2 hours
@@georgia4616 same except for my school I'll have a period of biology, lunch, and then double biology, but I like biology so it's not that bad. They've lengthened out the timetables so we're on a two week cycle timetable thing, but every class is a double, so 1 hour 40 minutes instead of the usual 50 minutes. Also no more bell anymore because of staggered break and lunch times, so that was weird for a while lol
@hufflepuff harry potter lover west midlands (Shrewsbury / Telford area)
The only thing I'd want from the American curriculum is for our final grades to be based upon our exam grades AND coursework, instead of solely just focusing on your GCSE marks, because some people like me get major anxiety about exams and just forget everything immediately and yeahh
I‘d love for Evan to talk about this subject with his subscribers from other countries, because school systems differ so much throughout the world
When's Evan gonna react to Waterloo Road though? The true secondary school experience.
Haha I'd love to see that! Evan doesn't really do TV show reactions though, maybe he should react to some clips with someone though! Also the Inbetweeners...
"That's like... in the UK! ...at the moment" lmao true tho
This series needs to cover Northern Ireland, Wales, and England because this was eye opening. I finished my Btec in England back in 2011 and my memories of the secondary school curriculum in England is waaaay different from what is currently going on.
6:04 I did my 5 highers in 5th year, applied to uni at 15, started at 16 and turned 17 a few months into the course genuinely the best thing I’ve ever done
Huh? 5th year for highers you are 17-18 depending on your birthday. But you somehow applied to uni when are you are literally choosing standard grades? With what grades did a uni course accept you lol ?
@@P.M_M actually 5th year is 16-17, 6th year is 17-18. i was born towards the end of the year in 2002 so did my nat 5’s in 4th year when i was 15 and applied with those and my predicted grades for highers in november 2018, turning 16 a few weeks later. i got in with 2 A’s and 3 B’s to 2 universities for law and began in september 2019, turning 17 a few months after that. it is absolutely possible and i’ve seen many people do it as well in my year.
@@kayleighsmith2126 never heard of uni’s accepting on predicted grades. Odd
@@P.M_M if you check university website, open days and attend ucas days they actually confirm what i’m saying but you probably didn’t apply in 5th year so it’s okay that you didn’t know.
@@kayleighsmith2126 Yeah i didn't, finished my adv highers first.
It is always fascinating to see how things have changed so much in the almost 40 years since I left school, mainly in the BS that authorities put out.
'2nd yr and 3rd yr in Harry potter'
Absolute perfect way to say yr7 and 8
I thought 2nd year in Harry Potter is year 8?
Isn’t that year 8 and 9?
Yeh but we dont have a year 7 or 8 or whatever in scotland
@@funkyfranx so I was right?
@@Hannah-eg7vl ah I’m from England x
i’d love if you could talk to an irish person about the irish school system! it’s literally crazy. students compete to get good enough grades to get enough points to get a course in college. it sounds confusing, and it kinda is honestly lol
If you really want to compare the us curriculum to a really weird one- try the Swedish😊 Since watching these vids I've realised it's a bit peculiar🌼
I’m in Britain and it’s also strange to me
Especially the Swedish one before like... 2008 or something, because before then in Sweden every school could invent courses and programs however they wanted basically. Like I took classes you could only take at my school in all of Sweden because my teachers invented those classes, it was great xD After around 2008 or something it became a bit more standardised. Still very free though compared to the UK.
England:
Primary school Age 5-10
Secondary school Age 11-16
College Age 16-18
University Age 19-21
GCSEs are last 2yrs of a secondary school Age 14-16. You choose from a list but there are mandatory GCSEs like Math, English, Science. Then you choose from subjects like Humanities (History OR geography) or Arts but only being able to pick one from those groups. You’re expected to take 9-10 GCSEs. But need a minimum of 5 to get to next step of A-levels. If you take 10 GCSEs and fail 5 but the other 5 are ok with ok grades, it’s fine. Gotta have maths and English tho.
Alevels are in college. College can be within a secondary school or can be a separate premises. It’s 2yrs and Age 16-18. First year is “AS level” you choose any 4 subjects. You can choose 5 at a push in some places. Don’t even need to have done the subject for GCSE. So if u quit after first year you have a qualification of an AS level. Second year is the full A-Level. You can choose to drop a subject.
For university you get points (called UCAS points) for your grades at A-Level. The university course you go for will let you know the amount of points required to get into that course. You still have to apply with a personal statement etc. Some universities offer a “foundation” year. It’s like a year before the actual course so you get up to scratch with the fundamentals. It’s usually taken if you don’t have good grades (aka enough UCAS points) or you’re doing a university course that you didn’t do for A-Level.
Corry is soooo accurate when talking about asking people to leave lol. That happened so much at my high school but no one really ever got expelled lol
I never clicked so fast on a notification in my life, this has truly made my day a whole lot better than it was, thank you. Keep doing what your doing, your the best
Thanks Sophie!! That's so kind :)
Your the best, I truly appreciate all you do and your content.
Could you do the Irish curriculum? I've had so many convos with my northern Irish aunt about it and we both always comes out confused in the end😅
As an irish person I am so confused XD To be fair I did my Leaving Cert over 10 years ago before they changed it...
I think its pretty easy.
You've got the junior cert you take at the end of 3 years (12-15). You have to do irish, English, maths, geography, history, home ec, scienec, business, religion, sphe, cspe, and a 3rd language. The options in my school were French, German, and Spanish but there are other options too. You second option is art, music, or technology. And that's all the choice in junior cert. A lot more choice in leaving cert.
There's an optional 4th year with you're 16. You don't do much but it helped me realise what I wanted to do as a career cause I had extra time.
Leaving cert, you have to do maths, English, Irish, religion, continue 3rd language.
Then geography and history become choices. Pick one.
Also science gets split up. Either pick 2 or pick 1 and 1 business subject. You can choose no science. If so, pick 2 business subjects. I think thats everything
Umm am I the only one who wants to see a whole video without it being edited, just like the whole conversation no cuts or anything. It would be cool to see plus more content 😊
Completely agree
I think that all the time
I don't, I've seen too many unedited rushes in my job when I was a transcriber, it's usually a lot more boring than the final edited version! Evan's done a good job of editing it, he keeps it nice and snappy
there would be lots of silences/pauses/repeats of phrases so not as fun... maybe an extended cut would be good tho
I cut out bits where we stumble and such. Editing is a really important part of the process! I like my videos snappy
He's really not explaining this very well. National 1, 2, 3 aren't done in first to third year. It's called BGE, those nationals are for the people who aren't great at school.
As a Scottish teacher, I like this guy’s explanation. Far more relaxed and concise than I could manage 🤣
Aaahhhhh this information is so all over the place 🤦♀️ at GCSE, there are core subjects you need to do then you have options to chose from. And the actual national curriculum is very detailed
Being from wales I'm learning alot about scotland and their education system x
I’ve started my A-Levels this year, and I had my GCSE’s last year. Surprisingly I passed, but I know a lot of people who got screwed over by COVID.
I'm in the same situation. I feel like we're all gonna be screwed during exams cause we have no experience. I was lucky and did early entry for History but that was 2 years ago and not everyone got that chance.
same, before they went to the algorithm the alevel results at my school were so badly marked down and even still with it changed i know so many that could’ve done better! its really complicated! I’m also in 1st year of alevels and tbh I’d be so screwed if they shut schools, it would mess gcses AND a levels plus anyone including me doing practical subjects (music, drama etc) are screwed lol. good luck with it, were in this together lol
@@deaththegirl3371 coming from someone who had their A-level results predicted, don't be worried about not having done any official exams before, when I sat my actually GCSEs I was okay with it because it was the same experience as when I'd done my mocks, just with the added pressure of oh wow this is actually real. You'll do loads of practice papers and have your mocks aswell so you won't be under prepared just because you didn't take your GCSEs
Let's just clarify for you, Scottish and English education are completely different, so different here in England,
Please do the german curriculum of Bavaria. It's so different wow
Huh I wouldn't think that england and Scotland would be so different, we have 5 hour long lessons a day and we're forced to do 4 maths a week, 4 English, 5 science, 2 language and the rest are chosen plus out of the 3 chosen subjects 1 of them has to be history or geography
My lesson times kept changing. At first, it was 55 minutes, then an hour, then by Year 11, it was an hour and 5 minutes long. They said it changed to give us five minutes to get to our next class. However, by the time my sister was in her final year 5 years later, her lessons were an hour and 15 minutes long. My school could not make up their mind... 🤦♀️
@@LittleMMCX haha same mine have changed to 55 minutes now because of covid lol
"5 hour long sessions" like... You're only in school for 5 - 6 hours if you include passing between classes and lunch? 😲
the bootee has made a comeback
on the side note I love that shirt
In England you normally take around nine to eleven GCSEs and three Alevels. Most schools may let you take 4 a levels to start with so that you can choose what you like but pretty much within a term you have dropped one as it is not really advised to take more than three as you only need three to get into uni (why cause yourself more stress when you don't need it). I have known people that started with five, but normally drop two subjects but the time it comes to applying for uni as it is just not worth it.
However, people used to take four when there was AS levels and A2 levels as you could get a qualification of the AS levels in 4 subjects and then drop one for your final year and only gain the three A2 levels needed for uni. A fews years ago they scrapped nationally compulsary AS levels and so nowadays most students only take three subjects for the two years and then do their A levels in these sujects.
You can also apply for university with equivalent qualifications such as btecs.
In England most people do 9 gcses: English language, literature, maths, bio, chem, and physics, then a language or humanities subject and 2 options, you can take additional ones too sometimes for example I too further maths so :language, literature, bio, chem, physics, maths, further maths, German, art and computer science. Then you can choose post 16 do do a vocational qualification, an apprenticeship or a levels, most people take 3 a levels but j believe you can take up to 5 and there is also an optional epq project on a subject of your choice. For example I'm doing, maths, further maths, physics and computer science
As someone who went to public school in Malaysia, I find it interesting that when we finish high school we can't immediately enter university. We have to do a "bridging" course (we call it pre-university) which is an additional 1-2 years of a foundational program in arts/science, the government provided higher ed certificate, or a foreign qualification like A-levels, SAM, IB, AUSMAT, IB, CPU - depending on what pathway you want to take for University/ if you want to study in a foreign country. I was 20 when I started university because I took a gap year after A-levels. My university was in India, and my classmates were 16-17. Was so odd, thinking that they were going to be graduates at 21, without much experience out of school. Just commenting because I think it's interesting how different the education systems are around the world, and how important it is to figure out what you might want to do with your life before entering university (if that's the path you choose).
Would love to see a video about the comparison with the German education system, it's so different 😄 although it would be hard because especially for the last few years every Bundesland just does whatever it wants. Not even we Germans know what's going on in other Bundesländern anymore 😂
Watching this as a year 11 doing revision for mocks for exams that’s probably won’t happen like:👁👄👁( this is so different from what I’m doing)
i haven’t started revising yet 😭😭 they are like halfway through november
This sooo strange for me. In Switzerland, we have such a different school system.
Seems the Scottish system has changed slightly since I was at school in the 1980s, but not by much. I did 7 O'Grades then 4 Highers and a further O'Grade in fifth year. In 6th year I did 2 advanced qualifications but they were called Sixth Year Studies back then not Advanced Highers. Also Mathematics and Arithmetic were two different subjects back then.
I came here to read comments posted by people from Scotland, South Dakota but I got tired of scrolling
I feel like Scotland schools are so different to English. I’m pretty sure all secondary schools in England have 5 years, not 6. I know the year that you pick your options can vary, but I picked mine in Year 9. However, I don’t actually drop the other subjects until Year 10 which is KS4. The amount of subjects you pick can also vary. In my school we picked 3 but in another school in the area they pick 4. Then we have the subjects we have to take. For example: maths, english, all 3 sciences and religious. I have no idea what Corry was talking about with highers and advanced highers. In my school they can choose if you do the higher GCSE in a certain subject, but it doesn’t add an extra year.
Haha, yeah our school system is very different from the English system. We have 7 years at primary school (which we call P1-P7) and then 6 years at secondary (S1-S6), we don't have a sixth form college - which is where most people go to do A-levels in England, and our qualifications only take one year to complete, we do National 5s in S4, Highers in S5 (which are the exams our uni places are based off of) and Advanced Highers in S6. This means that people in Scotland quite often end up going to uni at 17, like me, which just doesn't happen in England because of your system. I have English cousins the same age, or older, than me who are still in their last year of school, or college, and who will go to uni a year after me. However, in Scotland most uni courses are 4 years long, rather than 3, so that we will probably end up graduating at the same time.
I'm in year 11 in Wales and no one knows what's going on yet. We have to do loads of tests and coursework like dude WHAT ARE WE GETTING GRADED ON? I'm so stressed lmao
If exams get cancelled I've been told we are getting marked on our controlled assessments, baseline work and mocks (if you did any) and teachers will give us a grade and then they will send it off to the WJEC exam board and they will check that the grade is right as far as I'm aware 🤔
in England they're like fuck y'all you're taking GCSEs even if you die of covid first
I just left secondary school this March in England and obviously I was given teacher grades, tbf I’d think you’ll get the same if miss rona carries on
Also in my case if you do get your teachers grades they’ll probably not just go off mocks but also class work so it will be a more rounded grade. I.e. in English lit I got a 9 but In my mocks I got 8s. However in class work I got a 9. Sort of thing
How did I only comment this 2 months ago ... a lot has changed
If I had to single out one thing I prefer from the American schooling system it’s how you’re constantly working towards your grade, whereas here everything rides on that final exam
that’s what’s happening this year in the uk though lol
I tried to crash Higher Spanish. They didn't have enough people sign up for the beginner's course and the depute headteacher came to find me and ask what subject I wanted to do instead. I couldn't be bothered thinking about it and I was overly confident in my ability to catch up on 2 years worth of learning. I lasted a month and at least 3 weeks of that included occasional French because I had the same teacher for both and got confused.
I was in the last year to do O Levels. I'm old and it's all completely different now... btw, get off my lawn!
Getting expelled is getting kicked out of the school permanently here in the US. It's not just a long suspension.
Expulsion isn't permanent
A student expelled from a school in the US is generally enrolled in another school in the same district or a neighboring district. Students are guaranteed a public education under federal law irrespective of how much trouble they get in.
Students in my school (I am a teacher) who have been expelled sometimes return to the same school the next year. However, it's much more common for a student expelled from one school to enroll in the district's "alternative" school whatever that is.
@@katm2140 yes it is. You are permanently kicked out of the school that expelled you. Just because you can enroll in a different school doesn't change the fact that you are permanently excluded from the first.
I'm English and I have no idea what he's on about.
FINALLY!!! I’ve been waiting for part 2 😄😄
well here it is!
In Northern Ireland it's much the same as in England.
High school covers the 7 years aged 11-16 or 11-18 depending on what you do after GCSEs.
We call them Years 8-12 or 8-14 (with 1-7 being the 7 years of primary school, aged 4-11).
I'll go through what I studied throughout high school.
The first 3 years of HS (Years 8-10), you typically learn the following, in rough order of time spent on the subject:
Maths
English
Science (can be a 'combined' science class, or periods separated in to Phys, Chem, Bio)
Religious Studies
Languages (Typically French and/or Spanish, catholic and integrated schools also teach Irish)
History
Geography
IT (computing)
Music
Home Economics (Some cooking, some food education, some 'home' skills)
Technology and Design (woodworking, electronics etc, 'practical' skills)
Art
Drama
At the start of 4th year (year 11), you choose the subjects you'll take official exams for at the end of 5th year (year 12), called GCSEs (General Certificate of Secondary Education). My school made us take 10 GCSEs, some schools might only ask for 8, some really elite schools might push their students to do 11 or 12.
I had to do:
Maths
English Language (Reading and Writing)
English Literature (Books and Poetry)
Religious Studies (Mainly Christianity, some Buddhism)
I had to choose 1 language, but I chose 2. French and Spanish.
I also had to choose at least 1 science. I chose 2. Physics and Chemistry. This means I last took a biology class in year 10, when I was 13/14 years old.
The rest were optional. I chose Additional Maths (more advanced maths) and IT.
So along with thousands of other kids in my country, I sat GCSE exams in 2013 for the 10 different subjects above, and I have a transcript and a certificate at home to prove I sat those exams and got the stated grades (3A* 4A 2B 1C).
My school assigned a points system to our GCSE grades to verify if we could stay at the school for A-Levels in years 6 and 7 (13 and 14 - for some reason we call them lower and upper 6th, rather than 6th and 7th year), which were an optional stage of education at the time.
A*=4, A=3, B=2, C=1, D or below=0. I think we needed 16 points to be allowed to stay at the school for A-Levels.
A-Levels were much more flexible, but my school asked that we choose 3 of them, as most universities require 3 A-Level grades for entry.
Your A-Level subjects had to be relevant to the GCSEs you chose, so I couldn't choose music or Biology for example, as I did not get GCSEs in those subjects. This was a school requirement and not a governmental one, but it makes sense.
I chose 5 initially:
Maths
Further Maths
Physics
Chemistry
Software Systems Development (coding - it was a brand new subject at the time).
A-Levels are typically split in half, so in year 13 you do the first half of each course (called AS levels), while in Year 14 you do the 2nd half (called A2 levels).
Universities and employers only really consider your final A2 grades, not the AS ones. AS grades are more of an indicator on how you're doing.
My school structured people who chose Maths + Further Maths such that we would do the full 2-year (AS + A2) Maths course in Year 13, and the full 2-year Further Maths course in Year 14.
I dropped out of Software Systems Development halfway through Year 13 as it was too time-consuming and the least relevant for me at the time, so by the end of Year 13 I had the full Maths A2, plus AS grades in Physics and Chemistry.
In Year 14 I finished Physics and Chemistry A2, while also doing the full Further Maths class up to A2.
So I left high school having passed 4 A-Levels (2A* 1A 1B) with the certificate and transcript for those.
Plus the 10 GCSEs mentioned beforehand.
I did not get any certificate to say "You passed high school!". Only the certificates and transcripts for the official exams I completed.
If I had failed all 10 GCSEs, I wouldn't have to re-do them, but most basic jobs do ask for a C or above in Maths and English at GCSE, so if I had failed those I'd probably want to re-do those at a college (Not the same as university, it's more like an optional school for adults who don't have basic qualifications).
When I applied to University, they just wanted my GCSE grades (as a guide), and admission was reliant on my application letter (called a 'personal statement' in the UK), and my A-level grades.
To study Physics, my chosen University asked for A*AA at A-Level with an A* in either Maths, Further Maths or Physics, which they reduced to AAB when I 'locked them in' as my final choice before I got my A-Level grades.
I still don’t know how I managed to get into college because I ‘dropped out’ of school. As an Irish person I very much like the idea of picking 3 /4 subjects to concentrate on. Still can’t believe how backwards Irish curriculum is. 8/9 must do subjects is ridiculous