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Dessner: Violinkonzert ∙ hr-Sinfonieorchester ∙ Pekka Kuusisto ∙ Ariane Matiakh
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- Опубліковано 16 сер 2024
- Bryce Dessner:
Violinkonzert ∙
Auftragswerk des Hessischen Rundfunks, des San Francisco Symphony,
des Orchestre de Paris, des Philharmonia Orchestra und des Southbank Centre London ∙
Uraufführung ∙
I 00:00 ∙
II 17:51 ∙
III 23:24 ∙
hr-Sinfonieorchester - Frankfurt Radio Symphony ∙
Pekka Kuusisto, Violine ∙
Ariane Matiakh, Dirigentin ∙
hr-Sinfoniekonzert ∙
Alte Oper Frankfurt, 1. Oktober 2021 ∙
Website: www.hr-sinfonie... ∙
Facebook: / hrsinfonieorchester ∙
ARD-Mediathek: www.ardmediath... ∙
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Hessischer Rundfunk (hr)
Saw this at Chicago Symphony Orchestra just now and immediately came back to find it and listen again. Screw the naysayers this is an excellent piece. Fell in love with Pekka instantly.
This piece is so wonderful. Dessner continues to write incredibly compelling music. He's a real heavy, as they say. One great piece after the other. And Pekka Kuusito totally nails this. Amazing performance again by him. I heard him play the Nico Muhly concerto Shrink last year, and he was so good with that piece too. The negative comments here are idiotic. First, you can't judge a piece on one or even a few listenings. I've listened to this dozens of times. Give it a chance and you'll hear Dessner's genius. Second, if you don't like a piece, don't make a comment! If you can't say something nice ...
I liked the piece also.
But you are terribly wrong about "dont make a comment" if anyone doesnt like the piece.
Anyone can and should express their opinion on anything. Your mindset of telling people to not say anything negative is extremely alarming
Dieses Stück ist fantastisch. Ich habe es gestern mit dem DSO und Pekka Kuustio in der Philharmonie gesehen und gehört. Sensationell! Und Pekka Kuustio ist ein Genie!
Love Pekka.
Astonishing performance of a piece I would've said wasn't my jam... may still not be, but I stand in awe of the musicianship of the orchestra and especially Pekka Kuusito. Bravo, bravissimi!
I really love this music
It's good to see a healthy, wide-ranging, animated, and yet civil exchange here on a piece of music.
We each hold a huge number of classical works close to our hearts. The difference we hear in some modern works may seem almost like an assault. But we remember that some of what we now regard as classical masterworks were, when new, laughed at, or ridiculed, or even banned when first performed. De gustibus!
A great deal of classical music also has disappeared, and with good reason. Now that UA-cam exists, there are channels devoted to obscurities, many from old radio transcription discs. There is a truly astonishing amount of classical music that has turned up here on UA-cam from composers that basically never are played anymore. I dip into it sometimes, and sure enough, it is often very easy to understand why it never is heard, and why the composers may be totally unknown to present day performers and audiences in concert halls.
Stravinsky, Glass, Khachaturian, etc were all wonderful composers, Stravinsky can even be considered ahead of his time. Dessner is not ahead of his time. Not every single violin concerto that graces this Earth is a masterpiece. Although I do agree that sometimes people compose ideas that only catch on years later. Again, Stravinsky is one of my favourite composers with the Rite of Spring being my favourite ballet.
@@RachaelLongLastName Just saw this piece performed by the above as an opener for the Rite. Very appropriate!
This is just stunning. A great, great work.
Yet another of so many treasures of fascinating music performances coming from Frankfurt! This I write from Boston, which has its own good band under a ubiquitous and , alas, ever more ponderous and micromanaging Music Director making things still sound (too) beautiful (to be true), yet no longer with that single one all-important sparkle which springs everything into life and keeps listeners on the edges of their seats.
So beautiful!
Maravilloso!!!❤
This is absolutely beautiful. I heard this concerto on the radio this evening and I just had to listen to it again. What a masterpiece.
Pecca spielt wieder einmal unfassbar gut!
Wow!😊
Wunderbar aus Frankreich, Kompliment an alle
i wish that the people on UA-cam could have a copy of the programme notes. you'd find that this is based on the sea, and on a journey to/with the sea. the polyphonic churning and constant rhythm is not compositional incompetence, all though it could have more variation, it's a representation of the fluidity of water, air, nature, and music.
Wow! That just made the piece so much more idyllic in my mind. Do you know if there's a website where we can read more?
Not my usual choice but what a performance by the violinist
well, I'm not bored.
i agree
Sehr schönes Werk! Auch sehr wohltuhend als Ausgleich zu diesen schön-eingängigen Werke der früheren Klassik.
Felicidades........ .....
Excellente cette Ariane 👍
You listened to this piece and didn’t like it, fine. But your response should not be to stop listening to modern classical music. There are amazing works being made that are amazing and compelling, and there is music that you will enjoy. You are restricting yourself far too much by only listening to the legends, not to mention discouraging a generation of composers who would otherwise be interested in continuing the tradition of great orchestra music.
I couldn’t agree more
What do you mean? Who are the legends that you're talking about?
Are Paganini, Ernst, Chopin as relevant as Bach, Rachmanninov or Tchaikovsky? I don't think so.
Some of these aren't rather special composers.
That's why a well-educated listener can recognize a mediocre composer and a good composer)).
@@JP-ku5hw This is exactly the attitude I'm talking about. Relevancy is a subjective word and different composers are various levels of relevant to different people. For instance, I would consider Chopin and Paganini in the same level of relevancy as the other composers you mentioned. My point, though, was that there are amazing modern composers that are being overlooked by a culture that prefers the most "relevant" composers. When you conflate relevancy with quality, you demotivate modern composers to create because people are just gonna listen to the old stuff.
@@justkiddingtypebeat You got certainly the wrong end of the stick.
Briefly, when some of the modern composers in the mid of the twentieth century decided to ignore the basic and essential rules of the harmony, they made the classical music into a combination of random notes. So the pure music lost his way.
Thats why it's not a good idea to compare classical music with contemporary boring stuff)).
@@JP-ku5hw Untrue. Contemporary classical music is many things but random is not one of them. It is specifically not random. When you analyze it (which I have, I’m not just BSing) you’ll find there is an immense amount of care taken to evoke emotion while using very structured rules. Much like baroque music. If you don’t like it, that’s fine. But it’s not bad, and it’s not boring. Listen to Shostakovich’s Symphony #10 and tell me that’s not musical, or boring. Or Schoenberg’s Verklakte Nacht. Or so many countless other pieces that are just as beautiful and emotional and intricate as anything you could find in the 17-1800s, if not more.
Somehow it reminds me of the song, death of the balance by Symphony X. Wonderful piece it is!! So numb and so impressed I cant get out of my car,
I suspect this piece claimed a number of bows. Fantastic work, thank you!!
Magnificent
I'm so grateful for watching this
Wowww wowwww😭
Gnarly concerto! \m/
Wunderschöne und spannende Uraufführung dieses perfekt komponierten Konzerts mit seidigem doch gut phrasiertem Ton der technisch perfekten Solovioline sowie gut vereinigten und perfekt entsprechenden Tönen der anderen Instrumente. Die Kadenz klingt echt schön und absolut technisch perfekt. Die intelligente und geniale Dirigentin leitet das hoch funktionelle Orchester im veränderlichen Tempo und mit perfekt kontrollierter Dynamik. Wunderbar und atemberaubend zugleich!
Reminds me of something John C. Adams might have done, if Adams had remained true to Minimalism. Like Adams, it's strong on rhythm, orchestral color, and texture, not so strong on melody or distinctive harmonic moments. Maybe not an outstanding work, but it's decent music.
I thought of Adams too! Also check out Kernis: Symphony in Waves. Lot of similar textural work. Great piece by Dessner and Kuusistos and the hr symphony did a really amazing performance here in my opinion.
Tolles Konzert. Sehr löblich vom Hessischen Rundfunk, solche Kompositionen zu unterstützen. Ich sehe einige ratlose Gesichter im Publikum, aber das macht nichts. Mich langweilt der ewige Zirkel aus Beethoven und Mozart - es muss weitergehen !
I find these comments really interesting, because I don't agree with them at all! :P Usually, modern compositions seem to get a bit more favour in the comment sections (looking at you, Ginastera Violinkonzert), because they're new and different, and now I'm not sure if I'm missing something with this one or if UA-cam has gotten more judgmental.
At first listen, this sounds comparable to a lot of contemporary classical I know - unlikeable at first, but it grows on you. I didn't love this one at first, but I'm pretty sure I'll like it more if I keep listening. Am I missing something terrible about this…? :P Is all the hate just because of the modernism (which is just genre preference), or because this piece is genuinely bad in context?
I have to agree with you although it is unlikeable at first,it also does grow on me a bit, it's a shame people don't bother to give pieces like this a chance before so harshly judging it. Although the cadenza is really poor and must be boring to play.
This is an awesome Concerto!
29:00 bravo Arianna whoooooooo👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏💐👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏
Klasse!!
damn
I was there :)
You got robbed
@@RachaelLongLastName among us?
@@luffimusic you vented
@@RachaelLongLastName no u
@@luffimusic I swear to god you’re being so sus rn
This concerto is the answer to “What is the sound of a middle school boy trying to play violin?”
Well, how about you then show how it is done?
Only the cadenza, other parts are... interesting ... but my god that cadenza aahgh it was so bad :(
Bravo! And now I can see how the Sarabande proceed naturally from this. 🤣
It’s a really cool sound and energy, but it’s way too much of the same thing. After a while it just sounds like gibberish. The sound profile of wild bursts of fast notes from the orchestra and violin really does create a very captivating and compelling atmosphere but it goes on for way too long. Practically no contrast, boring structure, but really fantastically played by the orchestra and soloist.
This is what happens when a rock guitarist tries to write a violin concerto
No - The National is what happens when a classical composer/guitarist joins his brother's band for fun, and then it succeeds and becomes his day job.
@@Baribrotzer My comment is based on the music itself. I researched and found out that he was a rock guitarist _after_ I made my comment.
@@RachaelLongLastName I'd argue that a rock guitarist trying to write a violin concerto would come up with something more like second-rate Gershwin: A dozen or so short tunes, with identifiable verses and choruses, all run together because short tunes are what he knows how to write. Those tunes possibly might have strong and memorable melodies, but there'd be little or no development of the sort usual in classical music, and the harmonic language wouldn't be very complex or sophisticated. See Danny Elfman's violin concerto for an example - Danny's now mostly a movie composer, but he started out as a rock guitarist/vocalist/songwriter.
music without soul, sad ...
This piece has a weirdly compelling quality to it, but at times, it has to be profoundly boring to play.
It's also utterly unmemorable.
Good exercise hard on one’s ears musically Zero
Too many notes; too little music. I appreciate all sorts of new music, but this was just tiring and dull. Somewhere in the middle of it, I found myself thinking that the ease with which one can cut and paste, and transpose, and do various other editing tasks in score-writing software is probably the only reason this music exists.
TA-ta-ta-ta-TA-ta-ta-ta-TA-ta-ta-ta-TA-ta-ta-ta-TA-ta-ta-ta-TA-ta-ta-ta-TA-ta-ta-ta-TA-ta-ta-ta....................(27')...ok.....
Schade. Das Konzert verliert sich schon in der Hälfte und der Komponist verrennt sich in einem der kompositorischen Inkompetenz geschuldeten Wirrwarr. Architektonischer Aufbau ist in der Komposition mindestens so wichtig wie beim Hausbau! Sehr viele Noten, viele Läufe, viel Üben, dafür wenig Musik. Es berührt nicht. Wobei das doch eigentlich das Hauptziel der Kunst sein sollte! Die Kadenz klingt ähnlich wie meine ersten Geigenstunden. Wird wahrscheinlich nicht mehr oft aufgeführt, denn ich bezweifle, dass das viele Solisten über sich ergehen lassen. Wie so oft mit neuartigen Werken... Selten etwas Berührendes, Imposantes, im Ohre Bleibendes, so wie wir's von den Romantikern gewohnt sind!
If it’s hard to distinguish between a mistake and the correct thing, it’s probably not a very good work.
You are not listening closely enough. Every note played here is intentional. Very precise writing and execution.
Probably you are a very fool musician. Just probably...
What a waste of time! Even compared to other "popular" (or populist) contemporary composers, this is a remarkably poor, uninspired piece - and I am afraid to say that it stands in a row with other Dessner pieces I've heard so far. I should stop listening to them.
Man, that was untakeable. Literally. I'm not taking it. I'll go listen to some Beethoven or Bach now, thanks.
This recording shows openly that the music became worse and worse after the nineteenth century).
I really do not say this often, but yeah. You’re completely right this piece is a hot piece of garbage
This is literally everything wrong with movie music put into a violin concerto
'some music' if I may
You fail to consider that what we regard as timeless masterpieces today only represents a fraction of all music ever written and premiered. Some of these masterpieces were even disregarded as failures during their composers’ lifetimes. Just think of all the masterpieces we don’t know about because they were tucked away and forgotten. That could have been the case with all of Bach’s music, for example. Classical musicians need to have an open mind and be humble about the fact that when they are performing a new piece, their understanding of it and the historical context they are living in is limited.
@@assreductionist8575That's not the point I've made.
@@RachaelLongLastName Who tells you that this 'masterpiece' is based on a rock's concept?)
It's racket, not music. I'll stick with pre mid 20th century composers until I die.
Imagine paying to hear this garbage
*Early life checks out