Agreed, kits need to be more balanced, but a perfect balance is impossible as we have multiple gamemodes, ranked strategies usually run the same boring 5 kits in the meta which makes ranked super dry.
I'm actually planning to make a series call ''Kit Balancement'' Where i take a look at Overpowered to Underpowered kits show the reasoning behind why its either too bad or too good and then give recommendations on how to balance them. I'm planning to start with Umbra first as it found its self in overpowered kits with the invinciability it offers to underpowered with all its core strengths and abilites basicially removed Great amazing video made by you btw nice strong logical arguements
The devs needs to stop the "nerfing and buffing thing" get a kit out balanced and everything so that u dint have to touch it anymore , they buff a kit then people buys it and then later on in 2 weeks they just nerf it and what now the kits just useless? Ive wasted my money? i have to find a new kit now? like bro. They also ghost all the old kits never touching them again , like whats the point of keeping jack in the game if ur just gonna leave it the same? maybe rework the kit and balance it out? same with santa etc. which people spent MONEY on in the battlepass and they just act like its nothing, they never think to balance out all kits so they are all atleast alittle bit the same? so that maybe its not just useless and is most likely gonna get used? but noo . A new player can join and their kit is gonna be terrible compared to the caitlyns and marinas etc what is the player gonna do?
Correction not 2 weeks but in one week (Or however long it takes for them to make the bag) and its so sad seeing all these kits just get left. Like I didnt even know that half the kits mentioned here even existed
Sheepherder deals 45% extra damage with all 5 sheep. This also applies to projectiles and explosives. That kit is an underrated absolutely broken kit, only being dragged down by its more challenging playstyle of staying alive
It mostly depends on the mode you’re playing. Kits are generally made to appeal to different types of players, but you are right about a lot of kits overshadowing other kits. Especially the ones that won’t be profitable to the devs.
exactly people spent money to get the battlepass for santa and those other kits yet they just dont care about them just ghosted them why even keep them in the game at this point? i mean what is jack gonna do? theres no rework no nothing, and they never just balance out kits so they are slightly equal atleast they make kits overpowered for buyers, then later nerf it and now the kit is just trash so im obviously gonna go buy a better kit? its a whole money making thing, and they can get sued for that also
Nuh uh, wren is based off a feature from October 23rd, 2021 which allowed you to buy potions from the shop and the kit isnt really used for discounts unless its a early game axe
I recently came back from about a 1 year break. Everything is different. The op kits before are now worthless. Some of the new ones are now really op like elektra, and there's nothing to do against it.
Yeah, I can agree that kit balancing is a huge problem, it does suck on how there are a hundred kits in the game and yet very few of them are actually usable in competitive games (especially ones that are not even obtainable anymore). I think another problem is auto clickers and spatial audio. it's kind of sad how this game is so reliant on third party software because if you don't have an auto clicker with or without spatial audio you won't win pvp fights. This isn't really an issue to competitive players who mainly play on pc but for inexperienced and mobile players it is.
Some people really do NOT know how OP terra is. I was solo queueing rank because obviously, I don’t have a team and I’m legit hardstuck silver 4 because of the hacker issue, and i found 2 op strats with terra that got me out of there. When using terra, i got around 15 stacks by kicking blocks, and it basically does more than 20 damage to iron armor giving you a heavy advantage in PvP. I was able to kill anyone, not only it being used for bed breaking which makes it better. (pls dont leak this strat 💀)
Fortuna was a good kit but it got nerfed to the ground not bc it was op but bc it was free. Same thing with nayoka, and a few other kits I forgot to mention. They do this same thing every season from season 11 and below. Make a bp kit that free and op, nerf it when lost of player have it, and then never touch the kit again.
good ideas good confident in talking but 1 thing i would change. i would prefer (by far) if i saw a gameplay of you playing the game while you talk about the kits or atleast in the beggining of the video
A lot of the video was from a ranked perspective; however a lot of the kit similarities and stale meta could be changed by adding a kit banning system in place of the time that was used for mechanics and stuff from other season. This wouldn’t be perfect and has a lot things that need to be figured out; however I think it’d be cool for new ranked strays and stuff. Alternatively kits could be banned or like nerfed from ranked weekly along with others being buffed making old strays still viable but allowing other kits to shine through.
Bedwars literally do not have the brain capacity or people to create buffs for kits or do anything like that. But I think we all want to see this in the future.
they make kits overpowered for sellers, then later nerf it and now the kit is just trash so im obviously gonna go buy a better kit? its a whole money making thing, and they can get sued for that also, for changing the item that i thought i was buying for example i thought i was buying melody for its 25+ healing but then they take that away and change it to 18 later on
also gotta talk abt the comp side of the new gen cant getting access to old kits , like there could be a player whos very good but doesnt have any of the kits to use in rank and thats like so unfair bc also w duels yu cant evens get yamini and Elektra so you force to use yuzi so its gon be hella hard to try to win
I personally agree with this tbh, I actually use spirit catcher as a main kit because it’s basically the only kit im amazing at besides star collector stella, and ember, and its pretty much is a good kit but gets overshadowed A LOT and it definitely became less popular due to all the nerfs it got during the first couple seasons (literally you could fling people off the map with the kit 😭) and secondly, it still works great with getting people down from tall heights and it’s decent with execute enchant. 4:27
I agree completely bro. I recently came back to the game and ffs now I use the same three kits Sheila Caitlyn and Kaliyah. I remember when aery was amazing but now it’s more like a disadvantage with just 90 hp. I think they should buff og kits they treat their og players terribly now. Also I get renting kits is nice but why tf can u rent t50 kits
i wish they can remove kits from ranked but the bedwars community would hate it because some people have bought kits for ranked and they already established strats
Lowkey? Amazing idea, the whole point of ranked is skill right? Well clearly not, some people have insane kits like Cait and Aery, but some people didn’t play in those seasons, so ranked isn’t fair at all bro
On god I do agree but there are some fun strats to run. you said warrior is ass but if you get the 7 emeralds early game your practically unkillable and if you pair this with a whisper/wren/noelle. You practically dominate mid game. In my eyes I see potential in a bunch of kits but everyone wants to stick with what “works” which I don’t get. There is probably a strat that counters Caitlyn strat but everyone has their heads ass deep into Caitlyn strat no one bothers testing new kits! That just my thoughts
2:47 dont sleep on cyber fr he is very op when it comes to loot lol, but being srs bedwars dev never knew how to balance a kit exactly cuz when they release a new kit sometimes they make it so op that theres mostly no counter to it
melody in s11 was meta for like 4 days and they nerfed her to the ground immediately, and the strat with melody didn't contain any metal wren Cait shit (even then the metak cait noelle was still meta,) it used much more kits like crypt, warden, hannah and kaida, and other strat which uses lucia and whisper, although not as effective (oh yeah when lucia was starting to be used she also got nerfed) (still no metal cait nerf) But because of 1 nerf the strats became unusable asf, more example is the bypass strategy they used to be usable in ranked to but they once again got nerfed (i guess if you consider the melody strat a bypass that to) (Caitlyn metal was still meta even when bypass was) They even once buffed zeno even though he was already usable (10>12 staff damage) (11>13 twig damage) They buffed a meta kit while nerfing the other meta kit who's in a different strategy, Its like they want a specific meta to stay and other new meta fpund by players just get nerfed
@@Tbxedits47 they should just overall remove the buffing and nerfing , its ruining kits to use just put a kit out perflectly.. i hate when there is only 1 meta , everytime i queue both teams has the same kits. Hardly see something new, they need to just let all kits be balanced out and fairly good amd leave it so.
A few disagreements I had with this video that I had to point out: 1) 2:14 Lucia is NOT garbage, 5-6 kills and you already have a crossbow 2) 2:30 Void Knight is literally everywhere like people use him and actually care abt the season 12 kits 3) 2:43 Barbarian is everywhere and he is easy to max out, it's dying that is the problem with him 4) 3:17 For hannah isn't that what every kit does? 5) 3:52 Marina is LAUGHABLY counterable by Milo 6) 4:57 Silas is slept on, with 15 kills/assists you're unstoppable (30% dmg reduction) 7) 5:35 CLEARLY you have never encountered an agni that flings you to space with a rocket jump 7) 5:37 I main bekzat and he's broken as hell. Not only do you have no slowdown when moving with bows, the falcon is great for keeping pressure and preventing regen. And on top of all that you do 50% more damage with any ranged weapon on the person that the falcon is targeting. 8) 7:51 once all 5 sheep are found sheep herder is actually unstoppable even caitlyn falls to her
Oh dear this is gonna take a while. Okay first, this video is about the usability of these kits and rank, if I wasn’t specific enough in the video im just gonna say that now. 1. Lucia is at most D rank. You are not getting 5-6 kills without dying unless of course you’re playing in plastic lobbies or you have the support of a whisper and a noelle. 2. I said void knight was okay in the video? But still like your not using him over the other meta kits. 3. Barb is absolutely terrible?? What’s up with people saying this kit is good? You need to literally play perfectly, not die a single time or else you lose too much momentum. Even getting an iron sword is hard. You’re gonna be stuck at stone sword for the entire game. And what is that one and a million rage blade gonna do vs a Caitlyn head hunter shot? 4. Somewhat 5. “Yeah let me just pull up as a Milo and the second I disappear from my disguise I get hit for 60 damage marina shocks” 😂 This makes literally no sense. The fuck is a Milo gonna do to a marina in any situation? 6. Bro… you are not getting 15 kills or assists with Silas.. 7. Bezkat may be ok in regular matches or whatever plastic rank your queuing against but theres a reason your not seeing any high level player use this kit. Not good. 8. Honestly, the last time I’ve seen anyone use sheep hearder in an actual strategy is probably never. But a lot of people are saying this kit is good (even though I have seen no one touch this kit in rank ever) so unless people start using this kit and winning games my opinion stays the same.
I hate using the same kits instead of using over kits because it repetitive and if I try out a different kit it is gonna be so ass so then that will make me yo lose please bedwars fix this
I agree with you and I have been thinking of this for a long time and couldn't really see Anybdoy noticing until I found this video. Good vid and reminding bedwars that they need to make something happen.
This is not a hate comment! Just my opinion, i agree with some stuff you said in the video, especially the fact that older kits get overshadowed. But many of the kits you said were bad, are good. Aery is a complete beast if you have any kind of pvp skill. Wren's discounts are kinda garbage. While yamini is outshadowed by elektra, it doesnt make it a bad kit. Throughout the video you just call a kit bad because there is a better version of it, but the kit itself is still good, therefore usuable and not "trash". And after the buffs (which came out literally days after this video) spirit catcher was buffed, and is now better than before. So while i agree with a mild amount of the video, most of it was just: "this is trash" which is totally not the case
This entire video is usability in ranked. Every kit I said was trash are just not good enough to be used. Spirit did get buffed though so it’s decent. Aery isn’t even bad, but the problem is that Caitlyn is so much better that there’s no reason to use it
@RealYoNico ahh ok, looking from a ranked perspective it definetly makes more sense. Btw, (you don't need to answer this ofc) I've been thinking of making my own bedwars content, do you have any suggestions on how to improve it or any apps that could be good for editing them?
this is so true it would be so fun to see different strats in ranked lobbies that are plat 2+ as the only strats in ranked are umbra/davey/sheilder bb strats or cait metal wren jugg strats which gets boring
Facts 💯 I still remember when the s3-5 kits were to be feared. Warning: this comment is long, a lot, and has many run-on sentences, so if you are low on time, scroll past it. Man, I still remember on the last day of season 3, I was at lvl 40, and before I went to school, I payed my parents to give me enough to robux for me to reach lvl 50. As soon as the transaction was in, I was so happy. I played for a few more seasons until like s5, then I quit. I come back, and all of a sudden, Aery is getting destroyed by crazy kids like Electra. My honest reaction is like, what the hell? Are we just gonna add more and more op kits till everyone quits?! I joked with some of my classmates that one day the devs are gonna add a kit that automatically wins in a few seconds, and all the money we spent was for nothing. And yes, I know that it could be worse, considering aery is still useable at least. I feel bad for anyone that worked hard for pyro and ares (s1 and s2 btw), as I still remember when pyro was considered the best kit in the game. And what’s worse is that you would spend all this money, just to lose to hackers and/or someone with a better kit. For the former, they should just remove the nerfs they made to pyro and aery. For the latter, we should just have like, at least 1 day were everyone has an equal opportunity to get any kit in the game (including old battle pass ones), along with buffs to underpowered kits (like smoke, and yeti, the latter which I used to main until I got to lvl 50). Then maybe all kits will be equal again, and everyone will be satisfied with the game.
3:37 lumen is pretty dogshit but in 30v30 and some game modes its good as you spam 24/7 and if you kit all your shots in like 10 seconds you can kill a dim armor and with execute prob the same time with em armor 4:48 davey is still pretty broken but back when it was 30 iron and you took no damage when you would launch yourself it was op as fuck 6:03 just like when fortuna literally could one shot dim armor players lots of kits have just fell off completely 6:23 bro the hat costs 50 iron and you can’t use it if your on like anything above 100 ping and its so fucking glitchy but back when it gave literally like 5 seconds of invincibility and you could pvp the enemy aswell
So many new kits are js copys of old kits, example, (Even tho its not new, ) Void regent was a COMPLETE copy and P2W version of Jade, (Yuzi is also weirdly similar with the dash)
remember when everyone was trashing on caitlyn when she released bc of how "bad" she was, and as soon as the warden strat got nerfed and taxes added she became the number 1 kit lol
xD i wont even lie nico this game is awesome, but your points are very well made other than "the games boring yap yap yap cya". this video is very well made and i hope ac mods try to fix it.
Yeah and from first impressions it pushes it from a F tier kit to probably a B to D tier kit in comp lol. Probably even better in the non competitive game modes.
Sigrid is op as hell ,wdym decent 😭?Agni is not trash is Op as well , gives height advantages, knockback ,damage and negates fall damage ,Terra gives an insane advantaje in pvp is not decent is op Gompy's knockback is out of this world pushing enemies 10 blocks behind
i've been playing this game before season 1, the kits that i loved to use because it was fun to actually use them, are not fun no more, i started using the fricking smoke kit because of that 💀, if maybe this video is not 100% right about some kits, its at least 92% right, yamini and elektra are the same shi, silas is kinda like conqueror because of the aura and the buffs you can give, since they saw failure on some kits, they tried to do the same thing on new ones, just kinda puts me to think, old kits are a waste of money (some old bp kits and all that), since they've been adding more and more kits its been kinda boring ngl, i agree with this man saying "give us something new"
Man bedwars as a whole has gone to shit broThe game just doesnt care about upds anymore, and oh dont get me started on the community and how it has become a huge cod lobby bro and the wins becoming completely uselss now, their "skill based matchmaking" NOT being skill based at all, its all just a huge mess, its so sad seeing one of my fav roblox games go to shit after almost 4 yrs(yes, ive been playing since it released.) I also feel like they addin too many kits, like damn fix your already existing kits before addin any new ones.
Honestly id like to say some of the kits you put in F tier probably shouldnt be F tier, if your only talking about *full teams in emerald/nightmare lobbies in this present day then.. maybe fair enough??* but kits such as milo, kaida, sigrid and whim strongly dominate solo-quad queue. Yes kaida has recieved alot of nerfs but gambit strats can still be created with it still in present s12, not sure if it can reach emerald/nightmare level but it can definately hit diamond, milo has annihilated season 9-11 for solo queue and still really good to this day, possibly being able to hit high plat/low diamond with it too and whims spell book has insane damage. Its poison ability does around 25-30 damage with DOT on top with it basically making anything really vulnerable. Alot of full queues recently have started to use sigrid because of its op bypass for bed strat, its kind of similar to ginger where you stall but except its alot easier to steal their gen, break the bed and ignore the opponents. Ive seen people reach diamond with sigrid strats. I have a strong feeling you might be saying that these kits probably cant survive in emerald/nightmare lobbies, but if thats the case, then yeah the kits you put in F tier shall stay in F tier **Also mb i did see the end of the video some kits i mentioned here you put in D tier so thats good** Honestly I think these kits become extremely dominant because of player skill, but that might just be me, some players are trash with meta, some are really good
@ yes because it was heavily reliant on teammates, easily countered by jumping in void, beaten via static, has extremely weak early game strength, and it’s item based kit, it also scales additively. edit: slow scaling btw
The serious problem for me is that I only have win (5 k ) but I started from s10so I don’t have any bp kit 😢. Plss tell me do you know how can I buy an all kit acc like cloney and Ismael did?
instead of balancing these kits they should make it buyable. most of these kits be the most overpowered kits for metas and strats and yet you dont have it because u needed that battlepass. they should atleast make it cost bed coins since there doing that with every other kit
@ no.. it really doesn’t make the game more balanced. you can’t make things balanced by making everyone have the same thing. It just makes everyone have the unbalanced thing and even more complaints lol. Plus, if kits like Caitlyn is available to everyone, nobody would bother using other kits as well..
Cyber better than metal, can get t1 at 40 secs on 4 dim gen maps, t2 at 2:30 mins, t3 at 3:30 mins. It can also get obi as soon as the first end spawn. It can be bd since you see the whole map and it can kill whispers with tnt and steal guardians with tnt, you can spy the enemy bd to bb. And you can cycle the main jug em armor while bed defending at 12 mins. Cyber is only bad if you don’t know how to use it. And no, you don’t get bowed down if you are good. A good cyber should be invisible the other team most of the time.
@@RealYoNicoThat just means you are bad with it, and don’t know how to use it properly. Also, what is your problem with Barbarian kit, I know it can be pretty frustrating and hard to use specially with no whisper, but once u get Rage blade you have the best sword in the game by far. And you can get it much earlier that you would be able to get em sword or HH
his ranking: not used in ranked = F tier terra kicks can stack which with 15 stacks deal 10 dmg Jade can do fall dmg which avrege deals 20 dmg to EM armour and i dont think its a disapoinment Bekzat with the falcon targetting with hh does 20 dmg Bee keeper is garbge remmember the season 10 meta with beekeper Note: this is not hating its just my opinion please i dont want any wars
terra is dogshit (only good for win grinding or silver lobbies) jade is dogshit (fucking useless, almost never lands + jump potion negates fall dmg) bekzat is dogshit (it does 15 dmg at max with hh and cait does more with target) beekeeper is dogshit (only used in s10 because metal got shitted on but it got buffed again so people use metal now)
Idk some of these takes of yours kinda sound like nonsense to me but it's probably just cause i don't play ranked. For me kits don't seem too imbalanced but thats probably cause all the other games I play are stupidly unbalanced like blox fruits.
You're completely wrong about Agni, it's the most OP low tier FREE kit. The Rocket Jump Ability does insane knockback with 10 second cooldown which is overpowered, add on to that the cluster bombs which if you hit it directly onto a person and after that they get tick damage from the clusters, it makes it easy to get someone low and combo them.
no agni is still trash. you can bait out the agni and the cluster bombs are way too easy to dodge. the tick damage is negligible. also, vertical movement is worse than horizontal movement as well. it's also the only movement kit that gets countered by two things, static and gloops.
@@vioxlyz Dont call it trash because you don't know how to use it lol, also no you can't bait out an agni what kind of shit are you talking about LOL, yall are just bad at agni and calling it trash for no reason
@Appleleafy buddy, i trio que with friends, me and one of them are both agni we both bed break and got many dubs with it yall are sleeping on agni so hard just because yall are so bad
I don't agree with this video, you're mainly just considering the meta and ranked, a lot of this kits have their own playstyles and strats and are gamechanger depending on the gamemode you're playing. About them being outclassed can be kinda of reasonable, the players always demand new kits and why would you change a kit from like season 2 if you cant even obtain it without tickets? Bedwars even tried to slow down a bit the kit demand by adding a lot of gimmicks to the game, but the players just dont care about it, they just want to be overpowered by using a hella broken kit.
Agreed, kits need to be more balanced, but a perfect balance is impossible as we have multiple gamemodes, ranked strategies usually run the same boring 5 kits in the meta which makes ranked super dry.
I'm actually planning to make a series call ''Kit Balancement'' Where i take a look at Overpowered to Underpowered kits show the reasoning behind why its either too bad or too good and then give recommendations on how to balance them. I'm planning to start with Umbra first as it found its self in overpowered kits with the invinciability it offers to underpowered with all its core strengths and abilites basicially removed
Great amazing video made by you btw nice strong logical arguements
sounds nice
The devs needs to stop the "nerfing and buffing thing" get a kit out balanced and everything so that u dint have to touch it anymore , they buff a kit then people buys it and then later on in 2 weeks they just nerf it and what now the kits just useless? Ive wasted my money? i have to find a new kit now? like bro. They also ghost all the old kits never touching them again , like whats the point of keeping jack in the game if ur just gonna leave it the same? maybe rework the kit and balance it out? same with santa etc. which people spent MONEY on in the battlepass and they just act like its nothing, they never think to balance out all kits so they are all atleast alittle bit the same? so that maybe its not just useless and is most likely gonna get used? but noo . A new player can join and their kit is gonna be terrible compared to the caitlyns and marinas etc what is the player gonna do?
Correction not 2 weeks but in one week (Or however long it takes for them to make the bag) and its so sad seeing all these kits just get left. Like I didnt even know that half the kits mentioned here even existed
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@8_planes game design is hard and it's difficult to make a kit that's balanced at release
Sheepherder deals 45% extra damage with all 5 sheep. This also applies to projectiles and explosives. That kit is an underrated absolutely broken kit, only being dragged down by its more challenging playstyle of staying alive
It mostly depends on the mode you’re playing. Kits are generally made to appeal to different types of players, but you are right about a lot of kits overshadowing other kits. Especially the ones that won’t be profitable to the devs.
exactly people spent money to get the battlepass for santa and those other kits yet they just dont care about them just ghosted them why even keep them in the game at this point? i mean what is jack gonna do? theres no rework no nothing, and they never just balance out kits so they are slightly equal atleast they make kits overpowered for buyers, then later nerf it and now the kit is just trash so im obviously gonna go buy a better kit? its a whole money making thing, and they can get sued for that also
I love how Wren absolutely stole Merchant Marco's whole discount thing bar for bar.
Nuh uh, wren is based off a feature from October 23rd, 2021 which allowed you to buy potions from the shop and the kit isnt really used for discounts unless its a early game axe
And stole Alchemists whole kit idea 😢
Wren is just a hyper overpowered alchemist and merchent marco-
First UA-cam video I've seen addressing facts without sugar coding it
I recently came back from about a 1 year break. Everything is different. The op kits before are now worthless. Some of the new ones are now really op like elektra, and there's nothing to do against it.
Yeah, I can agree that kit balancing is a huge problem, it does suck on how there are a hundred kits in the game and yet very few of them are actually usable in competitive games (especially ones that are not even obtainable anymore). I think another problem is auto clickers and spatial audio. it's kind of sad how this game is so reliant on third party software because if you don't have an auto clicker with or without spatial audio you won't win pvp fights. This isn't really an issue to competitive players who mainly play on pc but for inexperienced and mobile players it is.
Spirit used to be my meta 😭 gg video Nico
ggs
Some people really do NOT know how OP terra is. I was solo queueing rank because obviously, I don’t have a team and I’m legit hardstuck silver 4 because of the hacker issue, and i found 2 op strats with terra that got me out of there. When using terra, i got around 15 stacks by kicking blocks, and it basically does more than 20 damage to iron armor giving you a heavy advantage in PvP. I was able to kill anyone, not only it being used for bed breaking which makes it better. (pls dont leak this strat 💀)
if your saying "pls dont leak this strat" why would you publicly write out your strategy in the comments section
Fortuna was a good kit but it got nerfed to the ground not bc it was op but bc it was free. Same thing with nayoka, and a few other kits I forgot to mention. They do this same thing every season from season 11 and below. Make a bp kit that free and op, nerf it when lost of player have it, and then never touch the kit again.
good ideas good confident in talking but 1 thing i would change. i would prefer (by far) if i saw a gameplay of you playing the game while you talk about the kits or atleast in the beggining of the video
FINALLY SOMEONE TALKING ABOUT THE BALANCING THANK U.
A lot of the video was from a ranked perspective; however a lot of the kit similarities and stale meta could be changed by adding a kit banning system in place of the time that was used for mechanics and stuff from other season. This wouldn’t be perfect and has a lot things that need to be figured out; however I think it’d be cool for new ranked strays and stuff. Alternatively kits could be banned or like nerfed from ranked weekly along with others being buffed making old strays still viable but allowing other kits to shine through.
Bedwars literally do not have the brain capacity or people to create buffs for kits or do anything like that. But I think we all want to see this in the future.
why is the volume SO LOW
Who are you again
Dummy bc your volume is so low
That is Zeysteria
A random bedwars player with over 1k wins and he is kinda pro in bedwars
The volume is perfectly fine man
Are you deaf?
Are there problems with the volume? It sounds perfectly fine for me
too low
Sounds perfect to me too…
No it sound fine for me
If your having issues with volume try watching on mobile
its sounds perfect
Yo nico I would love to do ur editing? It originally costs Robux but I would def give u huge discount and there is other things I want that aren’t rbx
they make kits overpowered for sellers, then later nerf it and now the kit is just trash so im obviously gonna go buy a better kit? its a whole money making thing, and they can get sued for that also, for changing the item that i thought i was buying for example i thought i was buying melody for its 25+ healing but then they take that away and change it to 18 later on
Saying that sheep herder is bad is a crime, it’s so underrated bro
It’s not good
Whim is very underrated, if you can get early book and learn the unusual aim its crazy, i got plat 2 solo q in s11 and s12 with it
totally agree, i did not buy the battlepass from s2 to s5 and other seasons for it to be garbage
also gotta talk abt the comp side of the new gen cant getting access to old kits , like there could be a player whos very good but doesnt have any of the kits to use in rank and thats like so unfair bc also w duels yu cant evens get yamini and Elektra so you force to use yuzi so its gon be hella hard to try to win
I personally agree with this tbh, I actually use spirit catcher as a main kit because it’s basically the only kit im amazing at besides star collector stella, and ember, and its pretty much is a good kit but gets overshadowed A LOT and it definitely became less popular due to all the nerfs it got during the first couple seasons (literally you could fling people off the map with the kit 😭) and secondly, it still works great with getting people down from tall heights and it’s decent with execute enchant. 4:27
“Let’s just talk about em” the famous line..
I agree completely bro. I recently came back to the game and ffs now I use the same three kits Sheila Caitlyn and Kaliyah. I remember when aery was amazing but now it’s more like a disadvantage with just 90 hp. I think they should buff og kits they treat their og players terribly now. Also I get renting kits is nice but why tf can u rent t50 kits
they need to start kit revamping, just like freiya and trinity’s situation. Going from some of the worst kits, to perfection.
i wish they can remove kits from ranked but the bedwars community would hate it because some people have bought kits for ranked and they already established strats
Lowkey? Amazing idea, the whole point of ranked is skill right? Well clearly not, some people have insane kits like Cait and Aery, but some people didn’t play in those seasons, so ranked isn’t fair at all bro
@ironoreiron yea but bedwars would technically be scamming their players bc some people bought kits js for ranked
they should js add an alternative ranked gamemode without kits and enchants
@@rayan_ghost yea ig but why no enchants?
@ironoreiron enchants are fine idk what im saying
On god I do agree but there are some fun strats to run. you said warrior is ass but if you get the 7 emeralds early game your practically unkillable and if you pair this with a whisper/wren/noelle. You practically dominate mid game. In my eyes I see potential in a bunch of kits but everyone wants to stick with what “works” which I don’t get. There is probably a strat that counters Caitlyn strat but everyone has their heads ass deep into Caitlyn strat no one bothers testing new kits! That just my thoughts
2:47 dont sleep on cyber fr he is very op when it comes to loot lol, but being srs bedwars dev never knew how to balance a kit exactly cuz when they release a new kit sometimes they make it so op that theres mostly no counter to it
And also silas wth 😢😢😢
If you’re talking about non competitive matches then those kits are probably decent but like….
Cyber and Silas are terrible in rank
@RealYoNico should be more specific lol
@@RealYoNicothe entire game is not just ranked though
@Dexteriityxmostly all good ranked kits are amazing for other gamemodes
The problem with kits not being limited anymore is that they can’t make op kit anymore cuz anybody can buy it
melody in s11 was meta for like 4 days and they nerfed her to the ground immediately, and the strat with melody didn't contain any metal wren Cait shit (even then the metak cait noelle was still meta,) it used much more kits like crypt, warden, hannah and kaida, and other strat which uses lucia and whisper, although not as effective (oh yeah when lucia was starting to be used she also got nerfed) (still no metal cait nerf)
But because of 1 nerf the strats became unusable asf, more example is the bypass strategy they used to be usable in ranked to but they once again got nerfed (i guess if you consider the melody strat a bypass that to) (Caitlyn metal was still meta even when bypass was)
They even once buffed zeno even though he was already usable (10>12 staff damage) (11>13 twig damage) They buffed a meta kit while nerfing the other meta kit who's in a different strategy,
Its like they want a specific meta to stay and other new meta fpund by players just get nerfed
can u tell me what the strat was
They buffed Zeno because it was basically a guaranteed lose in solos and duos and duels mode types
@@nathanmom1045 2 melody, 1 crypt, 1 kaida, 1 Hannah, the meta probably made melody have a high winrate that's why they nerfed her,
Thats for 5v5 bypass. The real meta is Lucia, Whisper, Melody, metal, noelle@Tbxedits47
@@Tbxedits47 they should just overall remove the buffing and nerfing , its ruining kits to use just put a kit out perflectly.. i hate when there is only 1 meta , everytime i queue both teams has the same kits. Hardly see something new, they need to just let all kits be balanced out and fairly good amd leave it so.
0:21 BRO WENT FROM EMERALD TO NIGHTMARE RANK 🙏💀
That was recorded a while ago
Bro I 100% agree, although he more generous with the tier list
Fr
A few disagreements I had with this video that I had to point out:
1) 2:14 Lucia is NOT garbage, 5-6 kills and you already have a crossbow
2) 2:30 Void Knight is literally everywhere like people use him and actually care abt the season 12 kits
3) 2:43 Barbarian is everywhere and he is easy to max out, it's dying that is the problem with him
4) 3:17 For hannah isn't that what every kit does?
5) 3:52 Marina is LAUGHABLY counterable by Milo
6) 4:57 Silas is slept on, with 15 kills/assists you're unstoppable (30% dmg reduction)
7) 5:35 CLEARLY you have never encountered an agni that flings you to space with a rocket jump
7) 5:37 I main bekzat and he's broken as hell. Not only do you have no slowdown when moving with bows, the falcon is great for keeping pressure and preventing regen. And on top of all that you do 50% more damage with any ranged weapon on the person that the falcon is targeting.
8) 7:51 once all 5 sheep are found sheep herder is actually unstoppable even caitlyn falls to her
Oh dear this is gonna take a while. Okay first, this video is about the usability of these kits and rank, if I wasn’t specific enough in the video im just gonna say that now.
1. Lucia is at most D rank. You are not getting 5-6 kills without dying unless of course you’re playing in plastic lobbies or you have the support of a whisper and a noelle.
2. I said void knight was okay in the video? But still like your not using him over the other meta kits.
3. Barb is absolutely terrible?? What’s up with people saying this kit is good? You need to literally play perfectly, not die a single time or else you lose too much momentum. Even getting an iron sword is hard. You’re gonna be stuck at stone sword for the entire game. And what is that one and a million rage blade gonna do vs a Caitlyn head hunter shot?
4. Somewhat
5. “Yeah let me just pull up as a Milo and the second I disappear from my disguise I get hit for 60 damage marina shocks” 😂 This makes literally no sense. The fuck is a Milo gonna do to a marina in any situation?
6. Bro… you are not getting 15 kills or assists with Silas..
7. Bezkat may be ok in regular matches or whatever plastic rank your queuing against but theres a reason your not seeing any high level player use this kit. Not good.
8. Honestly, the last time I’ve seen anyone use sheep hearder in an actual strategy is probably never. But a lot of people are saying this kit is good (even though I have seen no one touch this kit in rank ever) so unless people start using this kit and winning games my opinion stays the same.
I hate using the same kits instead of using over kits because it repetitive and if I try out a different kit it is gonna be so ass so then that will make me yo lose please bedwars fix this
I agree with you and I have been thinking of this for a long time and couldn't really see Anybdoy noticing until I found this video. Good vid and reminding bedwars that they need to make something happen.
Yo, Nico I do editing for yters it’s pretty good and not that expensive u interested we can figure something out?
I’m praying that the balance change this update will do something abt this
salutations nerd toilet
Without balancing the game is cooked
Who do u play ranked with and how the hell u went from emerald to nightmare! Your also a cool guy
Why is this guy swearing actually funny 💀
This is not a hate comment! Just my opinion, i agree with some stuff you said in the video, especially the fact that older kits get overshadowed. But many of the kits you said were bad, are good. Aery is a complete beast if you have any kind of pvp skill. Wren's discounts are kinda garbage. While yamini is outshadowed by elektra, it doesnt make it a bad kit. Throughout the video you just call a kit bad because there is a better version of it, but the kit itself is still good, therefore usuable and not "trash". And after the buffs (which came out literally days after this video) spirit catcher was buffed, and is now better than before. So while i agree with a mild amount of the video, most of it was just: "this is trash" which is totally not the case
This entire video is usability in ranked. Every kit I said was trash are just not good enough to be used. Spirit did get buffed though so it’s decent.
Aery isn’t even bad, but the problem is that Caitlyn is so much better that there’s no reason to use it
@RealYoNico ahh ok, looking from a ranked perspective it definetly makes more sense. Btw, (you don't need to answer this ofc) I've been thinking of making my own bedwars content, do you have any suggestions on how to improve it or any apps that could be good for editing them?
@Ohlive7411For editing I use CapCut lol. It works good enough. For content just try and do something that separates you from the rest I guess
this is so true it would be so fun to see different strats in ranked lobbies that are plat 2+ as the only strats in ranked are umbra/davey/sheilder bb strats or cait metal wren jugg strats which gets boring
Facts
I haven’t played in a long time when I look at everything bedwars kits suck a lot lately
Do you remember the siren melody skin bug
You could just spam guitar and another item to lag the server
if ranked is supposed to be able to show ur skill why should it have kits in the 1st place?
Facts 💯
I still remember when the s3-5 kits were to be feared.
Warning: this comment is long, a lot, and has many run-on sentences, so if you are low on time, scroll past it.
Man, I still remember on the last day of season 3, I was at lvl 40, and before I went to school, I payed my parents to give me enough to robux for me to reach lvl 50. As soon as the transaction was in, I was so happy. I played for a few more seasons until like s5, then I quit. I come back, and all of a sudden, Aery is getting destroyed by crazy kids like Electra.
My honest reaction is like, what the hell? Are we just gonna add more and more op kits till everyone quits?! I joked with some of my classmates that one day the devs are gonna add a kit that automatically wins in a few seconds, and all the money we spent was for nothing. And yes, I know that it could be worse, considering aery is still useable at least. I feel bad for anyone that worked hard for pyro and ares (s1 and s2 btw), as I still remember when pyro was considered the best kit in the game. And what’s worse is that you would spend all this money, just to lose to hackers and/or someone with a better kit. For the former, they should just remove the nerfs they made to pyro and aery. For the latter, we should just have like, at least 1 day were everyone has an equal opportunity to get any kit in the game (including old battle pass ones), along with buffs to underpowered kits (like smoke, and yeti, the latter which I used to main until I got to lvl 50). Then maybe all kits will be equal again, and everyone will be satisfied with the game.
you are the type of person to like writing essays
@ depends if I mean what I say or not, but in this case, yes, I believe what I said was true.
I read the whole thing, and I agree, just that the devs can’t balance everything like Nico said, practically impossible.
Ah yes, Aery isn’t good
K this vid is a joke
0:23 why did blud go from emerald to nightmare
0:04 message
First and fr there kits that is op and some is trash and there like copy of kits that are the same
3:37 lumen is pretty dogshit but in 30v30 and some game modes its good as you spam 24/7 and if you kit all your shots in like 10 seconds you can kill a dim armor and with execute prob the same time with em armor
4:48 davey is still pretty broken but back when it was 30 iron and you took no damage when you would launch yourself it was op as fuck
6:03 just like when fortuna literally could one shot dim armor players lots of kits have just fell off completely
6:23 bro the hat costs 50 iron and you can’t use it if your on like anything above 100 ping and its so fucking glitchy but back when it gave literally like 5 seconds of invincibility and you could pvp the enemy aswell
So many new kits are js copys of old kits, example, (Even tho its not new, ) Void regent was a COMPLETE copy and P2W version of Jade, (Yuzi is also weirdly similar with the dash)
7:53 sheep was only good due to the fire sheep thing that basically gave it 16 damage fire 3 enchant for free permanently.
This why bedwars is very repetitive. Most of the kits are just copy and paste with a different rewarding system.
I would love to see you make a completely unique kit
remember when everyone was trashing on caitlyn when she released bc of how "bad" she was, and as soon as the warden strat got nerfed and taxes added she became the number 1 kit lol
bro i swear bw has to stop cooking up more kits at this rate a kit worse than aery in its prime will arise
xD i wont even lie nico this game is awesome, but your points are very well made other than "the games boring yap yap yap cya". this video is very well made and i hope ac mods try to fix it.
only devs can fix it which means if devs doesnt see this video then nothings gonna change
@@GreatestButNotAllTheTime sorry, i meant to say devs instead of ac mods
I'm a level 98 in bedwars but I started at may 2024 so I don't really have any battlepass kits
this is serious we need dora to solve this problem
also im annoyed that all the kits that are obtainable - or almost all- are not that great but a lot of kits u cant even get are insane
funny is that spirit catcher got a buff of 60% armor pen 😭
Yeah and from first impressions it pushes it from a F tier kit to probably a B to D tier kit in comp lol. Probably even better in the non competitive game modes.
Santa ☠☠☠☠☠☠
bro went from emerald to nm
W video nico
having aery in F is insane
because powercrept by caitlyn and caitlyn has no downsides (no -10 max hp and doesn't lose any stacks on death and stronger scaling)
Agni is so good idk why it’s over looked (maybe im bad)
I'm planning to make a vid of the worst and best kits of each class
Sigrid is op as hell ,wdym decent 😭?Agni is not trash is Op as well , gives height advantages, knockback ,damage and negates fall damage ,Terra gives an insane advantaje in pvp is not decent is op
Gompy's knockback is out of this world pushing enemies 10 blocks behind
i've been playing this game before season 1, the kits that i loved to use because it was fun to actually use them, are not fun no more, i started using the fricking smoke kit because of that 💀, if maybe this video is not 100% right about some kits, its at least 92% right, yamini and elektra are the same shi, silas is kinda like conqueror because of the aura and the buffs you can give, since they saw failure on some kits, they tried to do the same thing on new ones, just kinda puts me to think, old kits are a waste of money (some old bp kits and all that), since they've been adding more and more kits its been kinda boring ngl, i agree with this man saying "give us something new"
Man bedwars as a whole has gone to shit broThe game just doesnt care about upds anymore, and oh dont get me started on the community and how it has become a huge cod lobby bro and the wins becoming completely uselss now, their "skill based matchmaking" NOT being skill based at all, its all just a huge mess, its so sad seeing one of my fav roblox games go to shit after almost 4 yrs(yes, ive been playing since it released.) I also feel like they addin too many kits, like damn fix your already existing kits before addin any new ones.
Honestly id like to say some of the kits you put in F tier probably shouldnt be F tier, if your only talking about *full teams in emerald/nightmare lobbies in this present day then.. maybe fair enough??* but kits such as milo, kaida, sigrid and whim strongly dominate solo-quad queue. Yes kaida has recieved alot of nerfs but gambit strats can still be created with it still in present s12, not sure if it can reach emerald/nightmare level but it can definately hit diamond, milo has annihilated season 9-11 for solo queue and still really good to this day, possibly being able to hit high plat/low diamond with it too and whims spell book has insane damage. Its poison ability does around 25-30 damage with DOT on top with it basically making anything really vulnerable. Alot of full queues recently have started to use sigrid because of its op bypass for bed strat, its kind of similar to ginger where you stall but except its alot easier to steal their gen, break the bed and ignore the opponents. Ive seen people reach diamond with sigrid strats. I have a strong feeling you might be saying that these kits probably cant survive in emerald/nightmare lobbies, but if thats the case, then yeah the kits you put in F tier shall stay in F tier
**Also mb i did see the end of the video some kits i mentioned here you put in D tier so thats good**
Honestly I think these kits become extremely dominant because of player skill, but that might just be me, some players are trash with meta, some are really good
2:58 eldric was good when it had no cap to it's power and could infinitely scale to instantly kill people. from like a C to F
so ''infinitely scaling to instantly kill people'' was a C tier?
@ yes because it was heavily reliant on teammates, easily countered by jumping in void, beaten via static, has extremely weak early game strength, and it’s item based kit, it also scales additively.
edit: slow scaling btw
oii eldric doesnt get countered by static but an hh will work
You made a typo right
nico if you made a kit ranking video im betting there would be 7-8 kits in S tier, 2 in A tier, and the rest would be in d or f tier :sob:
For ranked, I’d keep the list how it is but for all game modes yeah there would be a good amount of kits in S tier
@@RealYoNico make a video for your tier list on all game modes pls
i feel like its fine just use em properly but yeah some kits are ASS ALSO YUZI IS PEAK HOW DARE YOU AND ELDER TREE
The serious problem for me is that I only have win (5 k ) but I started from s10so I don’t have any bp kit 😢. Plss tell me do you know how can I buy an all kit acc like cloney and Ismael did?
Hey bro I am gonna make a response vid to this and my own on this problem if you don’t mind , cause I actually think this is a serious problem
Sure that’ll be interesting
instead of balancing these kits they should make it buyable. most of these kits be the most overpowered kits for metas and strats and yet you dont have it because u needed that battlepass. they should atleast make it cost bed coins since there doing that with every other kit
No they should balance it..? the first 9 season kits are meant to be exclusive forever.
@@vioxlyz i agree that they should nerf some kits but it will alsp be more balanced if people had a chance to have them.
@ no.. it really doesn’t make the game more balanced. you can’t make things balanced by making everyone have the same thing. It just makes everyone have the unbalanced thing and even more complaints lol. Plus, if kits like Caitlyn is available to everyone, nobody would bother using other kits as well..
@vioxlyz true.
lian is goated it got me. 205 ws in deuls in season 12😂
I’m talking about usability in rank. Like I said Lian I actually think is very underrated but the kits at the top are too strong.
@ oh
lian is good. other kits are just way better
Bro went from emerald in the start to nightmare when he started to talk abt the kits
i laughed so hard bro W vid
Yh worst part the good kits are mostly battlepass ones
Cyber better than metal, can get t1 at 40 secs on 4 dim gen maps, t2 at 2:30 mins, t3 at 3:30 mins. It can also get obi as soon as the first end spawn. It can be bd since you see the whole map and it can kill whispers with tnt and steal guardians with tnt, you can spy the enemy bd to bb. And you can cycle the main jug em armor while bed defending at 12 mins.
Cyber is only bad if you don’t know how to use it.
And no, you don’t get bowed down if you are good.
A good cyber should be invisible the other team most of the time.
Cyber is not good 😂
@ it is if used by someone that is good at the game, better than metal
@ you can out gear the other team so bad, t1 vs t3 diff + enchants
Yeah, I agree. Cyber is pretty good in plastic lobbies.
@@RealYoNicoThat just means you are bad with it, and don’t know how to use it properly.
Also, what is your problem with Barbarian kit, I know it can be pretty frustrating and hard to use specially with no whisper, but once u get Rage blade you have the best sword in the game by far. And you can get it much earlier that you would be able to get em sword or HH
what's even worse is that nobody rlly cares
Bedwars also has a bot problem
his ranking: not used in ranked = F tier
terra kicks can stack which with 15 stacks deal 10 dmg
Jade can do fall dmg which avrege deals 20 dmg to EM armour and i dont think its a disapoinment
Bekzat with the falcon targetting with hh does 20 dmg
Bee keeper is garbge
remmember the season 10 meta with beekeper
Note: this is not hating its just my opinion please i dont want any wars
terra is dogshit (only good for win grinding or silver lobbies)
jade is dogshit (fucking useless, almost never lands + jump potion negates fall dmg)
bekzat is dogshit (it does 15 dmg at max with hh and cait does more with target)
beekeeper is dogshit (only used in s10 because metal got shitted on but it got buffed again so people use metal now)
genuinely entertaining vid but..
gang has never used trapper and it shows 💔
cause nobody has used trapper September 30th, 2022 being at its peak costing 16 per trap, 2.25 snare duration, 1.6x marked damage that could stack
i dunno about you but invisible traps that have no placement limit and fully stun players as well as adding a 60% damage buff is pretty busted
macro block players when stepping on traps: 😰
Lol
Bro never fails to call all kits dogshit ( its true tho )
Idk some of these takes of yours kinda sound like nonsense to me but it's probably just cause i don't play ranked. For me kits don't seem too imbalanced but thats probably cause all the other games I play are stupidly unbalanced like blox fruits.
pretty much 0 of the kits you mentioned are bad
this is just a ranking of how good they are in ranked
ranked is not the only mode ingame
Real.
make this guy the balance change picker 💀
bro dissed all the bedwars devs and i agree
TRINITY AND TALIYAH ARE GOOD IS THIS VIDEO A JOKE
?? avg squads grinder
Nah, ever since they removed life steal from dark trinity, it sucks
You're completely wrong about Agni, it's the most OP low tier FREE kit. The Rocket Jump Ability does insane knockback with 10 second cooldown which is overpowered, add on to that the cluster bombs which if you hit it directly onto a person and after that they get tick damage from the clusters, it makes it easy to get someone low and combo them.
no agni is still trash. you can bait out the agni and the cluster bombs are way too easy to dodge. the tick damage is negligible. also, vertical movement is worse than horizontal movement as well. it's also the only movement kit that gets countered by two things, static and gloops.
@@vioxlyz Dont call it trash because you don't know how to use it lol, also no you can't bait out an agni what kind of shit are you talking about LOL, yall are just bad at agni and calling it trash for no reason
@@44sAtomiqueagni glazer, agni may be good in other gms but just admit its trash in ranked to like d tier. Nobody uses agni for good reasons in ranked
@Appleleafy buddy, i trio que with friends, me and one of them are both agni we both bed break and got many dubs with it yall are sleeping on agni so hard just because yall are so bad
nope, power crept theme, better rushing kits like elektra
No way bro is nightmare this season
Goat
I don't agree with this video, you're mainly just considering the meta and ranked, a lot of this kits have their own playstyles and strats and are gamechanger depending on the gamemode you're playing. About them being outclassed can be kinda of reasonable, the players always demand new kits and why would you change a kit from like season 2 if you cant even obtain it without tickets? Bedwars even tried to slow down a bit the kit demand by adding a lot of gimmicks to the game, but the players just dont care about it, they just want to be overpowered by using a hella broken kit.
just make ranked kitless if its supposed to be skill based
or nerf certain kits in just ranked
Really wish they’d do that.
kitless rank is boring and dull