@@castortoutnu taking apart the things @tracevelo does is courages in the eyes of some of us who shy away from such endeavors out of fear of never being able to get it back together again! 😊
Done 3000km on mine. Friend of mine did 6000km. Replaced a chain at 5000ish. No complaints. Works as it should. We did get an experienced mechanic to fine tune it for us. Wasn't as smooth before he tuned it. He'd never used the app or seen the groupset. He spent 10min or so playing around with it and said it was easier than any other app.
2,000KM on my LTWOO ER9 ( the brother down to the ERX) and it’s been amazing to me. Only minor issue I had was that my shifter button would stick and always go to my easiest gear on the rear derailleur but that has seen been fixed (not sure how, perhaps software update). Shifting is so smooth, app is great. It’s only going to get better from here. Has not experienced any problems in Vancouver winter(rain heavy weather). I’ve charged the groupset twice. Currently debating putting this on my race bike to replace Ultegra r8020. My advise to make this group set great - use a shimano chain (sram flat top sticks to the rear derailleur pulleys) - use their shifting set up and individually tune each gear
Luke, loved your vid on repairing the OG-Evkin. That was soo innovative and fun. Great success too. Well done. My LTWOO eRx is still running well. We travelled OS for 8 weeks recently and returned to find the I could not wake up the group set. I re charged and reset it. All good again but I fell off the bike and hurt my shoulder. Looking forward to your new OG-Evkin build!
I just installed the ER9 groupset this week. Performance has been amazing for the $350 USD sale price I paid for the groupset. I had some issues with the battery cabling, but that has more to do with the frameset I was using. Also it seems LTwoo has ironed out many of the early problems. I also used the opportunity to swap over to a 12 speed cassette, because why not? This has to be the most user friendly electronic groupset on the market. Easy to service mineral oil hydraulic braking, user replaceable batteries, cassette speed flexibility and the ability to fine tune the gearing are all phenomenal. Keep up the good work as well! 🥖🥖🥖
3 months using the eRX groupset in all weathers. Working faultlessly. I'm really impressed. My only niggle is, with thick gloves I sometimes inadvertently change gear :-)
With all respect to Luke and his content I just interrupted playback after issue section as it's clear to me I'm not going to buy electronic derailleurs/shifters with my own money unless I'm being paid to use 'em. That said, content is very well laid out and very useful, thank you!
I've just taken delivery on mine, have about ~70 miles on it, and have had no issues whatsoever. the ability to fine tune each sprocket is pretty awesome. One thing I haven't found or noticed is the ability to save profiles for say, different wheelsets and freewheel setups. If it is in the app, I didn't come across it. Otherwise, solid groupset, and nice to have a 3rd alternative out there for wireless shifting. Thanks for you honest reviews, between you and Joe, I was able to feel good enough to pull the trigger! 🥖🥖🥖🥖
I've installed 5 er9 and ridden 2. They're all wonderful. EDIT: 2 of them died last week for no reason. I do NOT recommend LTWOO. the warranty process to get replacement is also very frustrating.
Are you using the er9 (2x road) on gravel? I'm using the mechanical r9 shifters but with a Shimano GRX rear chain slap/drop was an issue with the non clutch LT-Woo mech. Any issues in that department with the er9?
Got my eRX delivered in november 2023 and finished the build early 2024. Put out about 1200km since then and had no issues at all. Everything was working so well, I even completely forgot to charge it after the first 100% and the battery died on a ride after about 650km with lots of climbing and therefore a decent amount of shifts. Because of the issues by Joe, Grant and yourself I was at first not very happy with my decision to place the order. Now I would for sure recommend the groupset without hesitation.
I’ve got a groupset sitting in the box in my spare room ready to go on my new build once the frame (OG Evkin CF-025) and wheels arrive. I love this channel because I spend a lot of time perusing Aliexpress for bike parts and it seems like whenever I add something to my cart for next payday you upload a video on it 😂
I’ve put about the same distance into my eRX set. Apart from an early failure of the rear derailleur which was replaced free of charge it has been working flawlessly. Interestingly I have recently had the same issue with the up shifting. It seems to shift 3 gears with one touch on the shifter. I’ll have to have a look at the springs you mentioned. It’s actually been behaving though so don’t know why it happened. Either way I love it. Smooth, quick and the braking feels very solid. I live the feel of the grips too. They are slimmer than the shimano Ultegra so feel slicker. Enjoy the pasta! 🥖🍝
I want it so bad! I'll wait probably another year for the kinks to be ironed out and availabilty to improve but I'm getting it for sure! Never thought I'd be able to afford electronic shifting so soon. Even 105 Di2 costs an arm and a leg where I live. Thank you China!
@@philipsimmonds1103 I can only find the older version tho, not the newer "blue edition" that is shown at the the end of the video, since they're still rolling that one out. Although I'm eager to jump on it I much rather wait for that updated version
This is the content I’m here for. Gotta say though, with the price of 105 di2 dropping a tonne in the last year, L-Twoo probably needs to do something to differentiate this product from di2.
First of all thank you very much for your review. It's very useful. It helped me understanding that's not a real point buying this group-set over the Sram Apex AXS that comes fully equipped with cranks as well. The price difference doesn't really compensate the risk of having a problematic unit. That's the main issue here. I still have the feeling that quality assurance with these products is a big question mark and a kind of a lottery.
Just installed my egr groupset today. I was very impressed with the quality easily on par with Force or Ultegra. Only worry I have is the exposed charger, much prefer di2 charging ports.
Good video man. Rim brakes and mechanical shifting on my road bike till I die. I keep everything clean, lubed and fine tuned myself, so everything works flawlessly. Very few things that can go wrong on mechanical if properly maintained. Lots more stuff that can go wrong on electronic shifting. Even a simple battery contact will stop everything from working. Or a simple dry joint in the electronic printed circuit. Not for me thanks. To each their own 👍🏼☮️
I agree ,I do all my own work so I never had a problem but I have 10 roadbikes so I wanted to try these & for the price it was hard to pass up compared to shimano
Good news for those of us that took the plunge and bought it. In my opinion the redesigned front mech motor cover is a great improvement over the original. The rest is primarily cosmetic.
IF they made a cable brake version, I would buy 2 sets right now! But Wheeltop does make a cable brake version and if they make it available in states, I'll get it. Glad you are ok from your fall. Love your channel!
Dammit, this is way more interesting than I'd hoped for. I was pretty comfortable in my mechanical bubble. 😂 Thanks, Luke! You've once again earned your 🥖🥖🥖
You’re quite the bike mechanic from frame repair to electronics, very impressive! I’m seriously pondering a ER9 group set, and the timing of this review is perfect.
same story as you on my end. it's been pretty flawless for the last few months after I swapped out the rear derailleur. looking forward to getting my hands on the newer version.
Luke, I really enjoy the content. Because of you I upgraded my old road bike for my son with sensah 11spd which works great. When do you think we'll start seeing L-TWOO sponsor a pro team. I really thing that's the next step to get the brand really out there and noticed. If the shifting is as good as you say it's only a matter of time. (btw, glad to hear you made it out ok after your crash)
Moustache magnifique!🎉🎉 Sad to hear of the slide out but glad to hear it was only a week off. Enjoy the thorough and comprehensive work as always, more funnies!!😊
thanks for the long term review, Luke! I'm considering getting the ER9 and really appreciate that they improved over the first impressions which had some concerning issues.
On our local flee market, the brand new 105 Di2 electric components are cheaper than Ltwoo right now. Thanks for your testing and video. Thanks brave Ltwoo for challenging Shimano. We can have cheap 105 right now.
Hi Luke, my erx was working faultlessly for about 3 months which with the amount of riding i do is about 1000ish miles, then after a recharge of the batteries the shifters no longer worked. I could shift gears using the app but the shifters weren't playing. I changed the coin style batteries in the shifter and tried to bind the shifters to the derailleurs. But no joy. Like you i replaced the rear derailleur with one i had on another bike i have just built and immediately everything started working as it should do. So there is definitely a problem with the rear derailleur. I am now in communication with Ltwoo to try and get this sorted and hopefully get a replacement rear derailleur under warranty.
@@YOLOSWAG420EZ Eventually got a replacement rear derailleur under warranty. Although there were a lot of emails to and thro and I had to email a video of the rear derailleur not working. They told me it was probably water ingress. The replacement has had no issues so far even in torrential rain.
I'm using a ERX groupset too. I had an issue after cleaning the bike, but after some days de rear derailleur back to work. Soon I will post a review too :) Aaaand I'm want to test the gravel electronic groupset.
Bought the erx groupset from panda podium. Amazing experience. Only one issue the hand shifter wouldn’t bleed. Panda podium are going to replace the left hand shifter. Amazing customer service. Hopefully the new shifter turns up 🥖🥖🥖
I'll still keep using mechanical groupsets as they are still significantly cheaper and they have historically been supported for longer periods (the more sustainable option) but we will see with the rollout of Shimano CUES as this may change. Keep up the good work Luke! 🥖🥖🥖🥖🥖🥖🥖🥖
Early adopter of erx here. At first the groupset charging light didn't flash. Battery ran low very quickly, i had to send my battery pod (expensive :/, but let's call it ocassional chinesium tax) they told me they would refund me the shipping costs, but it hasn't happened since the say they can't give me money, i guess i could ask for some brake pads, not ideal but i would eventually need them anyways. At the end it was the RD causing the problem. They sent me a replacement RD (half of the cage was aluminum lol) i swapped for the original carbon cage mainly because black paint/anodizing? falls very easily. Everything smooth since then. My only complaint is that trimming is not always perfect while in the middle of the cassette, sometimes i have to trick the groupset to use the next cog trim setting for the front derrailleur by up-shifting -> trim -> down-shifting again, maybe i am not adjusting my groupset right.
Two wishes for them: 1. be able to cope with some unusual gravel/touring gearing choices e.g. 42T in the back and a tiny subcompact double in the front. 2. satellite shift buttons for aerobars
Good to know, that finally there is solid Chinese competitor to vastly expensive Shimano and SRAM systems. Do we already know which price range L2 is targeting? Cheers.
I installed the product about 6 months ago and traveled 2000km. I'm not satisfied at all: I've got a SRAM 12s 10-28 cassette and a Racework 170mm 50-34 at the front. The front derailleur has a lot of difficulty going from small to large, I tried to adjust the limits from the application but if you exceed it the chain falls. The rear derailleur is not that bad but you have to spend a lot of time making micro adjustments on the gears as it is very imprecise. I wanted to try it after watching several videos but my advice is to spend a little more by purchasing a SRAM or Shimano so you can be sure of perfect functioning. Customer service is almost non-existent, they respond with messages from a bot and after a long time.
Ciao Luke!!! I'm really impressed seeing your third-person action video. Why not making a video about that? In particular about on how to mount the camera on the bike and what to use to do so (I tried with insta360 one r, with very bad results), so it would be interesting to know some advices from you!! Bye!
As a geek this appeals but as a practical rider I prefer the inherent simplicity of a conventional cable operated derailleur. Modern shifters are so good now, I struglle to comprehend the problem a costly amd less serviceable electronic shifter brings. Auto trim is cool I guess and elimjnates the need for understanding trimming?
After checking the reviews on LTwoo weeks ago I bought 2 sets of the original a ER9(alum.), ERX(carbon) & just came back from another ride,I have everything fine tuned, the app is incredible, I have 10 roadbikes only these 2 are disc a Merckx San Remo 76 & a Emonda Sl6 Pro ,Im very impressed with these sets ,I just hope they come out with a rim version,I see the other chinese group Wheeltop have the rim version so Ill see ,I wanna stick with LTwoo ,if anyone wants to save lots of $$$ these sets are great & unlike Shimano u can set the app for any speed so ur not locked in to 9,10,11,12 also the brakes are crazy good,easily lock up the tires
Problem with battery, can die at any time(and needs relacement if it happens) and has a water proofing issue. Sounds like anything but a good experience to most of us.
Very impressed with my EGR groupset. Shifting was easy to dial in and is buttery smooth. Time to log some miles and might buy a few more sets for my other bikes
Sadly mine died today during a ride. Not even 6 month old. Rear derailleur motor turns but the derailleur is stuck in the smallest cog. Went there from the middle of the cassette by itself. Neither a reset, new shifter battery nor charging the main battery does anything. Front derailleur is working still fine...
Have you tried the 'Calibration' setting on the app? This resets whatever position the rear derailleur is in to gear 7, then allows you to shift either side of that. Can help if it has 'lost' it's position.
Yeah I did try that. No movement Together with ltwoo it was diagnosed as a gearbox failure and they will send me a new rear derailleur. Annoying but at least I will be operational soon enough.
@tracevelo this will probably get lost in the comments, but have you seen the LTWOO Ae 3-13 electronic shifting adapter for any derailer? I bought it, and it essentially turned multiple derailers into fully electronic. For less than $130!. It’s pretty great! I would love to see you do a review. It’s based on the old X shifter which failed due to bad management.
I dont even need to watch this video lol I was going to do research as I am looking for a cheaper than Ultegra electronic groupset. The time stamps for this video are named perfectly. "Front Deraliuer issue" Battery Issue" "Button Issue" "Waterproof Issue" - Thats all I needed to know lol. Thanks. Ultegra it is for me
i have just finish my bike nd i mounted a ER9, it was the cheaper solution, and all the process went smooth. the most complicated part has been (or maybe "is") the fine tune of the front derailleur. i really don't know if the issue is related to my setup but it is complicated.
I did my first ride, 60km battery 86% when back, weird it's double of your battery consumption. Only thing is I have to better setup the front derailleur. The in between shift goes really close to the chain
At the moment I have traveled 1300 km in three months (most of it dry) and it has performed excellent. Initially during installation there were problems with the front brake bleeding, but once this was solved it worked well. (black first edition) Luke, what version of the software do you have? The one I own only has a 10-12s option.
Any chance for a shifter comparison between ltwoo version 1,2 and wheeltop? Im quite curious how the ergonomics between those three compare. Best regards and and thank you for all those lovely videos!
Had some issues with waterproofing after a bikewash after unplugging it overnight it is fixed. During raining rides i didnt had this problem i think i gona seal it with isotape or so. But i think customer service on ali is terrible
If you’re thinking of L-Twoo, I cannot strongly enough recommend against it. I have two group sets, the RX and the GR9, and they’ve been a disaster. Unfortunately, I don’t have the platform that Trace/GC/Panda has, so L-Twoo just dgaf about my issues, and I’ve been stuck having to replace both with Shimano/SRAM. All-in, I’m out 2x what I would’ve been just going mainstream in the first place.
🥖Hi Luke, I recently purchased and returned an LTWOO eGR groupset. One of my major safety concerns that I can't remember if you mentioned is that the BMS on the battery holder will only be a BMS for the combined battery voltage. If the batteries are out of balance for example battery 1 = 3.4v and battery 2 = 4v to charge to a combined 100% charge of 7.8v. This essentially means battery 2 is beyond 100% which can cause an overcharge fire. Some pretty bad corner cutting when all they need to do is manufacture a BMS that can monitor the batteries individually. I don't think you should be publishing videos on these products, they are simply unsafe.
Been running the egr, similar time frame/kms .. it's been excellent ,11 speed 51 cassette.. shifting compares to my ultegra d12 .. the app is significantly better than shimano .
I have the Ltwoo groupset too. But the alloy Version. No issues with water till now. But had a crash and one shifter broke. Contacted the Store and got spare parts very fast and no big payments. I rode the bike the hole last Winter in Germany. So gar only the issue with Garmin. Always at start up i got the message tha the battery is empty. But 10 Seconds later after quit the message the battery is full. And i think IT would be better to have some cover over the charging Port.
@stefank1542 is there any way to index the groupset without the app? i.e. just pressing buttons on the levers/derailleurs (if there's any) to enter and indexing mode and do it without a phone?
the best purpose of these are truly to put pressure on sram and shimano. they probably will take 1 or 2 generations until perfection, but seing how they even now have features that arent available is hilarious. only thing that holds them back is patents. luke.. is there a chance that you are interested in building a chinese titanium road or gravel bike? thinking about buying a frame but am unsure about quality of titanium frame from aliexpress
One of the best cycling channels on UA-cam.
Glad your crash was pretty minor. I admire your courage pulling apart the electric bits and trying to (and often succeeding) fix them!
Courage?
@@castortoutnu taking apart the things @tracevelo does is courages in the eyes of some of us who shy away from such endeavors out of fear of never being able to get it back together again! 😊
@@EricStorms that or the fear of making something even worse by "repairing" it.
I am happy that they don’t just drown the whole thing in potting compound, that would make any repair essentially impossible.
@@veganpotterthevegan How can it be any worse than it not working?
Done 3000km on mine.
Friend of mine did 6000km. Replaced a chain at 5000ish. No complaints. Works as it should.
We did get an experienced mechanic to fine tune it for us. Wasn't as smooth before he tuned it. He'd never used the app or seen the groupset. He spent 10min or so playing around with it and said it was easier than any other app.
Do you think it is safe to buy the current version now? or should I wait for the upcoming version?
@everythingRICHARDIFY we received and updated rear derailleur. The product itself is good. The after sales can be iffy
@@everythingRICHARDIFY there is an upcoming version?
@@rexenph yes, the blue edition try to search it up here. you'll see a video from chinacycling
2,000KM on my LTWOO ER9 ( the brother down to the ERX) and it’s been amazing to me. Only minor issue I had was that my shifter button would stick and always go to my easiest gear on the rear derailleur but that has seen been fixed (not sure how, perhaps software update).
Shifting is so smooth, app is great. It’s only going to get better from here. Has not experienced any problems in Vancouver winter(rain heavy weather). I’ve charged the groupset twice.
Currently debating putting this on my race bike to replace Ultegra r8020.
My advise to make this group set great
- use a shimano chain (sram flat top sticks to the rear derailleur pulleys)
- use their shifting set up and individually tune each gear
Luke, loved your vid on repairing the OG-Evkin. That was soo innovative and fun. Great success too. Well done. My LTWOO eRx is still running well. We travelled OS for 8 weeks recently and returned to find the I could not wake up the group set. I re charged and reset it. All good again but I fell off the bike and hurt my shoulder. Looking forward to your new OG-Evkin build!
I just installed the ER9 groupset this week. Performance has been amazing for the $350 USD sale price I paid for the groupset. I had some issues with the battery cabling, but that has more to do with the frameset I was using. Also it seems LTwoo has ironed out many of the early problems. I also used the opportunity to swap over to a 12 speed cassette, because why not? This has to be the most user friendly electronic groupset on the market. Easy to service mineral oil hydraulic braking, user replaceable batteries, cassette speed flexibility and the ability to fine tune the gearing are all phenomenal. Keep up the good work as well! 🥖🥖🥖
Where did you get it for that price?
3 months using the eRX groupset in all weathers. Working faultlessly. I'm really impressed. My only niggle is, with thick gloves I sometimes inadvertently change gear :-)
Glad you’re safe brother. Thanks for the review. Wouldn’t trust anyone else. Best wishes to you and yours. 🙏🏼
With all respect to Luke and his content I just interrupted playback after issue section as it's clear to me I'm not going to buy electronic derailleurs/shifters with my own money unless I'm being paid to use 'em. That said, content is very well laid out and very useful, thank you!
I have 2 groupsets at home ERX and a ER9 and 0 issues so far, absolutely love it. Ordered a third one for the gravel bike lol
Can it do 1 button shifting and handle the front chain ring by itself like di2?
One of the best bonus clips 🥖🥖
I've just taken delivery on mine, have about ~70 miles on it, and have had no issues whatsoever. the ability to fine tune each sprocket is pretty awesome. One thing I haven't found or noticed is the ability to save profiles for say, different wheelsets and freewheel setups. If it is in the app, I didn't come across it. Otherwise, solid groupset, and nice to have a 3rd alternative out there for wireless shifting. Thanks for you honest reviews, between you and Joe, I was able to feel good enough to pull the trigger! 🥖🥖🥖🥖
I've installed 5 er9 and ridden 2. They're all wonderful. EDIT: 2 of them died last week for no reason. I do NOT recommend LTWOO. the warranty process to get replacement is also very frustrating.
Are you using the er9 (2x road) on gravel? I'm using the mechanical r9 shifters but with a Shimano GRX rear chain slap/drop was an issue with the non clutch LT-Woo mech. Any issues in that department with the er9?
Same here,so far flawless ,fine tune each gear is awesome
@@chris1275cc yes, but don't quote me on that, I don't have enough gravel miles on it yet to recommend it
3mths since install and everything is good and flawless.
What cassette are you using? Very curious as I have become hesitant with mixing brands in recent years.
Got my eRX delivered in november 2023 and finished the build early 2024. Put out about 1200km since then and had no issues at all. Everything was working so well, I even completely forgot to charge it after the first 100% and the battery died on a ride after about 650km with lots of climbing and therefore a decent amount of shifts. Because of the issues by Joe, Grant and yourself I was at first not very happy with my decision to place the order. Now I would for sure recommend the groupset without hesitation.
Would you pick l-twoo erx over wheeltop’s eds tx?
An eGR groupset is on the way. Very excited to see how it performs
I’ve got a groupset sitting in the box in my spare room ready to go on my new build once the frame (OG Evkin CF-025) and wheels arrive. I love this channel because I spend a lot of time perusing Aliexpress for bike parts and it seems like whenever I add something to my cart for next payday you upload a video on it 😂
me too,Im waiting for stuff from ali also,its an addiction
I’ve put about the same distance into my eRX set. Apart from an early failure of the rear derailleur which was replaced free of charge it has been working flawlessly. Interestingly I have recently had the same issue with the up shifting. It seems to shift 3 gears with one touch on the shifter. I’ll have to have a look at the springs you mentioned. It’s actually been behaving though so don’t know why it happened. Either way I love it. Smooth, quick and the braking feels very solid. I live the feel of the grips too. They are slimmer than the shimano Ultegra so feel slicker. Enjoy the pasta! 🥖🍝
I want it so bad! I'll wait probably another year for the kinks to be ironed out and availabilty to improve but I'm getting it for sure! Never thought I'd be able to afford electronic shifting so soon. Even 105 Di2 costs an arm and a leg where I live. Thank you China!
Buy it .. also, can get it cheaper if you buy it out of the box ..
@@philipsimmonds1103 I was looking at it, what does out of the box even mean? Surely they have to package it in a box anyways...?
@arviddh they have a fancy presentation box .. or a normal packaging box and Alloy shifters $100 off ..
@@philipsimmonds1103 I can only find the older version tho, not the newer "blue edition" that is shown at the the end of the video, since they're still rolling that one out. Although I'm eager to jump on it I much rather wait for that updated version
@seraph4581 the old version was not problematic for me .. FYI.. I paid $850 cdn .. free shipping
Just this morning I was re-watching your old eRX video and wondering how it was going, glad to hear it's gone so well!
This is the content I’m here for.
Gotta say though, with the price of 105 di2 dropping a tonne in the last year, L-Twoo probably needs to do something to differentiate this product from di2.
Wating for EDS TX. Hope i will hear it from your review bcoz you are awesome in reviewing the details.
I replaced my LTWOO eRX with EDS TX. So far much better than LTWOO.
First of all thank you very much for your review. It's very useful. It helped me understanding that's not a real point buying this group-set over the Sram Apex AXS that comes fully equipped with cranks as well. The price difference doesn't really compensate the risk of having a problematic unit. That's the main issue here. I still have the feeling that quality assurance with these products is a big question mark and a kind of a lottery.
I’ve had my share of issues with SRAM FORCE AXS, so…. Nobodies perfect. L-TWOO seems to have figured it out, all for it.
I praise you for having the patience for this unfinished crap! The lack of reliability and unknowns…. Would drive me mad. Need stuff to work!
Because it's not immune to crash damage?
Just installed my egr groupset today. I was very impressed with the quality easily on par with Force or Ultegra. Only worry I have is the exposed charger, much prefer di2 charging ports.
Good video man. Rim brakes and mechanical shifting on my road bike till I die. I keep everything clean, lubed and fine tuned myself, so everything works flawlessly. Very few things that can go wrong on mechanical if properly maintained. Lots more stuff that can go wrong on electronic shifting. Even a simple battery contact will stop everything from working. Or a simple dry joint in the electronic printed circuit. Not for me thanks. To each their own 👍🏼☮️
I agree ,I do all my own work so I never had a problem but I have 10 roadbikes so I wanted to try these & for the price it was hard to pass up compared to shimano
I have been using the MTB wireless group set for more than two years and no problems. Good contents thanks.
Compré el grupo LTWOO R9 gracias a tus videos. Siempre llego tarde a las tendencias jajaja
Another great review Luke of another great product... Awesome quality and price mate👍👍👍
Good news for those of us that took the plunge and bought it. In my opinion the redesigned front mech motor cover is a great improvement over the original. The rest is primarily cosmetic.
IF they made a cable brake version, I would buy 2 sets right now! But Wheeltop does make a cable brake version and if they make it available in states, I'll get it. Glad you are ok from your fall. Love your channel!
I bought 2 sets ,Im waiting to see if they come out with a rim version ,Im gonna jump on them if they do,hopefully they read these comments
Just in here 12 seconds into watching the video to tell you the mustache absolutely slaps. Keep it going!
Dammit, this is way more interesting than I'd hoped for. I was pretty comfortable in my mechanical bubble. 😂
Thanks, Luke! You've once again earned your 🥖🥖🥖
You’re quite the bike mechanic from frame repair to electronics, very impressive! I’m seriously pondering a ER9 group set, and the timing of this review is perfect.
same story as you on my end. it's been pretty flawless for the last few months after I swapped out the rear derailleur. looking forward to getting my hands on the newer version.
Luke, I really enjoy the content. Because of you I upgraded my old road bike for my son with sensah 11spd which works great. When do you think we'll start seeing L-TWOO sponsor a pro team. I really thing that's the next step to get the brand really out there and noticed. If the shifting is as good as you say it's only a matter of time. (btw, glad to hear you made it out ok after your crash)
from pandapodium: "The “Blue Edition” won’t be available til the second half of 2024."
I was wondering how to make sure you'd get the Blue edition... thanks for the date info.
I love the eRX. 8 months. I run 11 speed now to match my other bike. Cheaper chains and can share wheels.
Looking forward to seeing the Blue Edition improvements 🥖
Moustache magnifique!🎉🎉 Sad to hear of the slide out but glad to hear it was only a week off. Enjoy the thorough and comprehensive work as always, more funnies!!😊
Impressive update good to see the issues have been resolved.. still mechanical for me 😊 Pete 🚴🏻👍
thanks for the long term review, Luke! I'm considering getting the ER9 and really appreciate that they improved over the first impressions which had some concerning issues.
Love the content, digging the stache.
Very good review
I would love to see a mainstream brand feature this as a bundled group set.
On our local flee market, the brand new 105 Di2 electric components are cheaper than Ltwoo right now.
Thanks for your testing and video. Thanks brave Ltwoo for challenging Shimano. We can have cheap 105 right now.
Such a good Video!!! great sum up!!
Hi Luke, my erx was working faultlessly for about 3 months which with the amount of riding i do is about 1000ish miles, then after a recharge of the batteries the shifters no longer worked. I could shift gears using the app but the shifters weren't playing. I changed the coin style batteries in the shifter and tried to bind the shifters to the derailleurs. But no joy. Like you i replaced the rear derailleur with one i had on another bike i have just built and immediately everything started working as it should do. So there is definitely a problem with the rear derailleur. I am now in communication with Ltwoo to try and get this sorted and hopefully get a replacement rear derailleur under warranty.
I would love an update to this. Main worry I have is customer support/replacement stuff.
@@arviddh Still having problems with communication with Ltwoo.
@@timjames4562 thinking of getting some Chinese groupsets, how did your refunding go?
@@YOLOSWAG420EZ Eventually got a replacement rear derailleur under warranty. Although there were a lot of emails to and thro and I had to email a video of the rear derailleur not working. They told me it was probably water ingress. The replacement has had no issues so far even in torrential rain.
I've just put the ERX on a gravel frame as I'll be primarily riding on the road and it's been a dream! I just need two more for some other builds.
I'm using a ERX groupset too.
I had an issue after cleaning the bike, but after some days de rear derailleur back to work.
Soon I will post a review too :)
Aaaand I'm want to test the gravel electronic groupset.
Holy shit i have never been this early
BAGUETTES FOR YOU 🥖🥖🥖🥖🥖
me neither! bloody miracle because i love the fella
TWSS!
Thanks for the update, interested to see how the new grp works out.
Thank you for another great video.
Looking forward to the blue edition build. On the short list for a winter build later in the year. Hopefully out in the UK by then.
Bought the erx groupset from panda podium. Amazing experience. Only one issue the hand shifter wouldn’t bleed. Panda podium are going to replace the left hand shifter. Amazing customer service. Hopefully the new shifter turns up 🥖🥖🥖
Is there any way to do the indexing without the need of using the app but relying on physical buttons only?
Absolutely love my er9!
I'll still keep using mechanical groupsets as they are still significantly cheaper and they have historically been supported for longer periods (the more sustainable option) but we will see with the rollout of Shimano CUES as this may change. Keep up the good work Luke! 🥖🥖🥖🥖🥖🥖🥖🥖
Isn’t Cues already out? Or are they planning an electronic version?
@@lbgstzockt8493CUES is Shimano's budget mechanical groupset. No plans for an electronic groupset yet. Not sure how it will be supported long term.
Oh to be a 3d rendered cheetah from a chinese bike component manufacturer on the Serengeti. I could only dream.
Early adopter of erx here. At first the groupset charging light didn't flash. Battery ran low very quickly, i had to send my battery pod (expensive :/, but let's call it ocassional chinesium tax) they told me they would refund me the shipping costs, but it hasn't happened since the say they can't give me money, i guess i could ask for some brake pads, not ideal but i would eventually need them anyways. At the end it was the RD causing the problem. They sent me a replacement RD (half of the cage was aluminum lol) i swapped for the original carbon cage mainly because black paint/anodizing? falls very easily. Everything smooth since then. My only complaint is that trimming is not always perfect while in the middle of the cassette, sometimes i have to trick the groupset to use the next cog trim setting for the front derrailleur by up-shifting -> trim -> down-shifting again, maybe i am not adjusting my groupset right.
Luke is Our wallet hero and save the day❤
Two wishes for them:
1. be able to cope with some unusual gravel/touring gearing choices e.g. 42T in the back and a tiny subcompact double in the front.
2. satellite shift buttons for aerobars
for the algorithm
🥖🥖🥖🥖🥖
Yes finally!!!!!
Bonus clips was one fine 🥖
Good to know, that finally there is solid Chinese competitor to vastly expensive Shimano and SRAM systems. Do we already know which price range L2 is targeting? Cheers.
I hope you can release a video of the blue edition...
This is good news. More competition is a good thing. 🥖🥖
I installed the product about 6 months ago and traveled 2000km.
I'm not satisfied at all: I've got a SRAM 12s 10-28 cassette and a Racework 170mm 50-34 at the front.
The front derailleur has a lot of difficulty going from small to large, I tried to adjust the limits from the application but if you exceed it the chain falls.
The rear derailleur is not that bad but you have to spend a lot of time making micro adjustments on the gears as it is very imprecise.
I wanted to try it after watching several videos but my advice is to spend a little more by purchasing a SRAM or Shimano so you can be sure of perfect functioning.
Customer service is almost non-existent, they respond with messages from a bot and after a long time.
然而在国内依然要等挺长时间才有大量现货可以买到，但是据车店老板说目前已经有品牌整车装新版套件了
Ciao Luke!!! I'm really impressed seeing your third-person action video. Why not making a video about that? In particular about on how to mount the camera on the bike and what to use to do so (I tried with insta360 one r, with very bad results), so it would be interesting to know some advices from you!! Bye!
Would you do also for wheeltop?
I can wait for the tx
How on earth is it possible that Luke hasn't reviewed the Mangene crank spider powermeter yet, he could fit it to any of his existing carbon cranks...
As a geek this appeals but as a practical rider I prefer the inherent simplicity of a conventional cable operated derailleur. Modern shifters are so good now, I struglle to comprehend the problem a costly amd less serviceable electronic shifter brings. Auto trim is cool I guess and elimjnates the need for understanding trimming?
After checking the reviews on LTwoo weeks ago I bought 2 sets of the original a ER9(alum.), ERX(carbon) & just came back from another ride,I have everything fine tuned, the app is incredible, I have 10 roadbikes only these 2 are disc a Merckx San Remo 76 & a Emonda Sl6 Pro ,Im very impressed with these sets ,I just hope they come out with a rim version,I see the other chinese group Wheeltop have the rim version so Ill see ,I wanna stick with LTwoo ,if anyone wants to save lots of $$$ these sets are great & unlike Shimano u can set the app for any speed so ur not locked in to 9,10,11,12 also the brakes are crazy good,easily lock up the tires
Bought erx last night, sent back to seller after the FD dead this morning 😅
Problem with battery, can die at any time(and needs relacement if it happens) and has a water proofing issue. Sounds like anything but a good experience to most of us.
Very impressed with my EGR groupset. Shifting was easy to dial in and is buttery smooth. Time to log some miles and might buy a few more sets for my other bikes
thank you
Sadly mine died today during a ride. Not even 6 month old. Rear derailleur motor turns but the derailleur is stuck in the smallest cog. Went there from the middle of the cassette by itself. Neither a reset, new shifter battery nor charging the main battery does anything. Front derailleur is working still fine...
Have you tried the 'Calibration' setting on the app? This resets whatever position the rear derailleur is in to gear 7, then allows you to shift either side of that. Can help if it has 'lost' it's position.
Yeah I did try that. No movement
Together with ltwoo it was diagnosed as a gearbox failure and they will send me a new rear derailleur. Annoying but at least I will be operational soon enough.
@tracevelo this will probably get lost in the comments, but have you seen the LTWOO Ae 3-13 electronic shifting adapter for any derailer? I bought it, and it essentially turned multiple derailers into fully electronic. For less than $130!. It’s pretty great! I would love to see you do a review. It’s based on the old X shifter which failed due to bad management.
Люк как всегда молодец!
I dont even need to watch this video lol I was going to do research as I am looking for a cheaper than Ultegra electronic groupset. The time stamps for this video are named perfectly. "Front Deraliuer issue" Battery Issue" "Button Issue" "Waterproof Issue" - Thats all I needed to know lol. Thanks. Ultegra it is for me
just summed up my thoughts :D
i have just finish my bike nd i mounted a ER9, it was the cheaper solution, and all the process went smooth. the most complicated part has been (or maybe "is") the fine tune of the front derailleur. i really don't know if the issue is related to my setup but it is complicated.
I would consider this if I could have it with post-mount calipers.
Yaaasssss!!! 🥖
I did my first ride, 60km battery 86% when back, weird it's double of your battery consumption. Only thing is I have to better setup the front derailleur. The in between shift goes really close to the chain
If I ever build a gravel bike this groupset will be the one to do it. The value proposition is simply too good to even consider Shimano or SRAM.
L-TWOO needs to make a rim brake version of the eRX.
At the moment I have traveled 1300 km in three months (most of it dry) and it has performed excellent. Initially during installation there were problems with the front brake bleeding, but once this was solved it worked well. (black first edition)
Luke, what version of the software do you have? The one I own only has a 10-12s option.
I prefer the look of the ltwoo comoared to the wheeltop but still no sign of ltwoo supoorting rim brakes on erx 😢
hope their blue version being perfect version.
I have the original on 2 bikes & they work perfect ,can see them working any better
Any chance for a shifter comparison between ltwoo version 1,2 and wheeltop? Im quite curious how the ergonomics between those three compare. Best regards and and thank you for all those lovely videos!
I wish too for such a comparison!🥖🥖
Had some issues with waterproofing after a bikewash after unplugging it overnight it is fixed. During raining rides i didnt had this problem i think i gona seal it with isotape or so.
But i think customer service on ali is terrible
If you’re thinking of L-Twoo, I cannot strongly enough recommend against it. I have two group sets, the RX and the GR9, and they’ve been a disaster. Unfortunately, I don’t have the platform that Trace/GC/Panda has, so L-Twoo just dgaf about my issues, and I’ve been stuck having to replace both with Shimano/SRAM. All-in, I’m out 2x what I would’ve been just going mainstream in the first place.
Well, that is exactly the problem i have..
🥖Hi Luke, I recently purchased and returned an LTWOO eGR groupset. One of my major safety concerns that I can't remember if you mentioned is that the BMS on the battery holder will only be a BMS for the combined battery voltage. If the batteries are out of balance for example battery 1 = 3.4v and battery 2 = 4v to charge to a combined 100% charge of 7.8v. This essentially means battery 2 is beyond 100% which can cause an overcharge fire. Some pretty bad corner cutting when all they need to do is manufacture a BMS that can monitor the batteries individually. I don't think you should be publishing videos on these products, they are simply unsafe.
we have Had a burned battery already
Been running the egr, similar time frame/kms .. it's been excellent ,11 speed 51 cassette.. shifting compares to my ultegra d12 .. the app is significantly better than shimano .
I have the Ltwoo groupset too. But the alloy Version.
No issues with water till now.
But had a crash and one shifter broke.
Contacted the Store and got spare parts very fast and no big payments.
I rode the bike the hole last Winter in Germany.
So gar only the issue with Garmin.
Always at start up i got the message tha the battery is empty. But 10 Seconds later after quit the message the battery is full.
And i think IT would be better to have some cover over the charging Port.
@stefank1542 is there any way to index the groupset without the app? i.e. just pressing buttons on the levers/derailleurs (if there's any) to enter and indexing mode and do it without a phone?
@@mtbiker8989 You need a phone and the app to make all the adjustments at the front and rear derailleur. W/O app you can do nothing like I know.
the best purpose of these are truly to put pressure on sram and shimano. they probably will take 1 or 2 generations until perfection, but seing how they even now have features that arent available is hilarious. only thing that holds them back is patents. luke.. is there a chance that you are interested in building a chinese titanium road or gravel bike? thinking about buying a frame but am unsure about quality of titanium frame from aliexpress